You : Shall never perish

[Bethel]

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Jesus says.....'"and you shall never perish".

The "You" there, is all the born again, who are the : "predestined elect".
Faith elects, God saves.
Every born again person is predestined to be conformed into the Image of Christ.
Are you born again? Then that is you.
You gave God your faith, by FREE WILL, and God accepted your faith and gave you His Righteousness.

"shall never perish", is Jesus explaining that because Christ is now in all the born again, and all the born again are born into God by God's Holy Spirit.....this situation can't be changed.
"shall never perish".
"never".

Now, if you are truly born again, and not just water sprinkled or water dunk'd and told that the water has saved you, or is required for you to be saved......(same cultish nonsense)....then you are going to meet a lot of so called "christians" who are on their own religious trip.
Their trip, many times, is not leading them to heaven. Their trip is leading them to damnation, even as they quote verses all the way to hell.
And why is that?
Its because to be born again, is to already be IN Heaven.
No Trip Necessary.
See, every born again person is waiting for their new body and the end of their eternal inheritance.
Every born again person is a " heir of God", and a joint heir with Christ".
This has HAPPENED. It is who we are, = all who are born again.
We are already HEIRS of the eternal promise and established in God's Spiritual Family as "born again" SONS of God.
If you are a girl / woman, that means you, if you are born again.

And a person says......>"but, absent from the Body is present with the Lord".... and we are going to meet Jesus in the Air, and get our new bodies.""
And that is exactly correct. And while you are waiting to do that, you are already seated in Heavenly Places, "in Christ", and you are already...>>"As Jesus is.....so are the born again, IN THIS WORLD".

Yes, its a spiritual mystery that is a eternal reality....if you are born again.

Welcome to your Salvation.
God accomplished it on the Cross and provides it when you believe in The God man, who was manifested in the Flesh to take away the sin of the world.
This is GOD on the Cross who said...>"it is FINISHED"....and He should know, as He just took the sin of the world upon Himself and died for YOU, 2000 yrs ago.
If you are born again, then Jesus has become your sin, and you have been "made righteous" and have become ..."the righteousness of God, in Christ" and you shall "never perish".

So, if you are water baptized religious, but lost..... always trying to be good, to try to be good enough for God acceptance....then stop....You can't do it.
And if you are born again and are trying to get God to keep you, then STOP, as you will "never perish"< and you need to relax, let go of your self righteousness, and exist in real faith that is TRUST that God Himself who started your salvation in you, will HIMSELF be faithful to complete it.

Philippians 1:6

Believe it.

 

[Alley Oop]

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Jesus says.....'"and you shall never perish".

The "You" there, is all the born again, who are the : "predestined elect".
Faith elects, God saves.
Every born again person is predestined to be conformed into the Image of Christ.
Are you born again? Then that is you.
You gave God your faith, by FREE WILL, and God accepted your faith and gave you His Righteousness.

"shall never perish", is Jesus explaining that because Christ is now in all the born again, and all the born again are born into God by God's Holy Spirit.....this situation can't be changed.
"shall never perish".
"never".

Now, if you are truly born again, and not just water sprinkled or water dunk'd and told that the water has saved you, or is required for you to be saved......(same cultish nonsense)....then you are going to meet a lot of so called "christians" who are on their own religious trip.
Their trip, many times, is not leading them to heaven. Their trip is leading them to damnation, even as they quote verses all the way to hell.
And why is that?
Its because to be born again, is to already be IN Heaven.
No Trip Necessary.
See, every born again person is waiting for their new body and the end of their eternal inheritance.
Every born again person is a " heir of God", and a joint heir with Christ".
This has HAPPENED. It is who we are, = all who are born again.
We are already HEIRS of the eternal promise and established in God's Spiritual Family as "born again" SONS of God.
If you are a girl / woman, that means you, if you are born again.

And a person says......>"but, absent from the Body is present with the Lord".... and we are going to meet Jesus in the Air, and get our new bodies.""
And that is exactly correct. And while you are waiting to do that, you are already seated in Heavenly Places, "in Christ", and you are already...>>"As Jesus is.....so are the born again, IN THIS WORLD".

Yes, its a spiritual mystery that is a eternal reality....if you are born again.

Welcome to your Salvation.
God accomplished it on the Cross and provides it when you believe in The God man, who was manifested in the Flesh to take away the sin of the world.
This is GOD on the Cross who said...>"it is FINISHED"....and He should know, as He just took the sin of the world upon Himself and died for YOU, 2000 yrs ago.
If you are born again, then Jesus has become your sin, and you have been "made righteous" and have become ..."the righteousness of God, in Christ" and you shall "never perish".

So, if you are water baptized religious, but lost..... always trying to be good, to try to be good enough for God acceptance....then stop....You can't do it.
And if you are born again and are trying to get God to keep you, then STOP, as you will "never perish"< and you need to relax, let go of your self righteousness, and exist in real faith that is TRUST that God Himself who started your salvation in you, will HIMSELF be faithful to complete it.

Philippians 1:6

Believe it.

you're conflating many scriptures, without really knowing what "perish" means.
In mark 4:38 when the disciples did not want to "perish" in the storm, were they worried about ETERNAL DAMNATION?

Did Billy Graham, 'perish' or 'reap life everlasting'?
He perished.

 

[Bethel]

you're conflating many scriptures, without really knowing what "perish" means.
In mark 4:38 when the disciples did not want to "perish" in the storm, were they worried about ETERNAL DAMNATION?

Did Billy Graham, 'perish' or 'reap life everlasting'?
He perished.

My Thread was very specific regarding Jesus saying......> to the born again.........>"you shall never perish".

You, on the other hand are talking about other's who used this word, or other ways of thinking about this word.
My Thread isn't.

And Billy Graham, didn't perish..........only his body died.
Jesus was not talking about the body, when He said ... "and YOU shall never perish".......as Jesus isn't talking about the body, nor is he talking about the mind or the emotions.

 

[Alley Oop]

My Thread was very specific regarding Jesus saying......> to the born again.........>"you shall never perish".

You, on the other hand are talking about other's who used this word, or other ways of thinking about this word.
My Thread isn't.

And Billy Graham, didn't perish..........only his body died.
Jesus was not talking about the body, when He said ... "and YOU shall never perish".......as Jesus isn't talking about the body, nor is he talking about the mind or the emotions.

bill perished, he "lived after the flesh and died . ." as Romans 8:13 states.
He was in the Wide Gate to Death, as Matthew 7:13 states.

 

[Bethel]

bill perished, he "lived after the flesh and died . ." as Romans 8:13 states.
He was in the Wide Gate to Death, as Matthew 7:13 states.

Only the body. dies.

The Spirit is eternal, and that is why it "goes somewhere" after your body dies.

1.) Heaven

2.) Hell

"Bills' went to heaven, because Bill's spirit was "born again".

There are no born again in Hell.
There are no Christ rejectors.....(not born again)......in Heaven.

There is no in between.