Mediator of a new Covenant

[brakelite]

Hello Brakelite.

Your reply was not correct, God did ask Israel to sign the covenant. A legal transaction was conducted
between God and the nation of Israel. Please read the following;

A 'covenant' is an agreement between two parties.

A 'mediator' is the one who negotiates between the two parties.

The 'contract' is a written or spoken agreement, legally enforceable by law.

Was the covenant that God established with Israel at Mt Sinai a legal covenant or contract?

Exodus 19

5 Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be
My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine;
6 and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. These are the words that
you shall speak to the sons of Israel.
7 So Moses came and called the elders of the people, and set before them all these words
which the Lord had commanded him.
8 All the people answered together and said, All that the Lord has spoken we will do!
And Moses brought back the words of the people to the Lord.

From the verses above there is a well defined contract between God and Israel.
The elders agreed to the terms of the covenant, "All that the Lord has spoken we will do!"
It is clear that the elders consented to the agreement with God. Then Moses returned to the Lord
with the people's consent. The contract or covenant has been established, Moses was the one who
conducted the negotiation.

All that remains now is to ratify the agreement between God and Israel.

God and Israel must sign the contract which will be enforceable in court.

Exodus 24
3 Then Moses came and recounted to the people all the words of the Lord and all the ordinances;
and all the people answered with one voice and said, All the words which the Lord has spoken we will do!
4 Moses wrote down all the words of the Lord. Then he arose early in the morning, and built an altar at
the foot of the mountain with twelve pillars for the twelve tribes of Israel.
5 He sent young men of the sons of Israel, and they offered burnt offerings and sacrificed young bulls as peace offerings to the Lord.
6 Moses took half of the blood and put it in basins, and the other half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
7 Then he took the book of the covenant and read it in the hearing of the people; and they said, All that the Lord has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient!
8 So Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.


The covenant is now legal, formal consent by both parties has been reached.
This is now a covenant signed in blood, sealed. Israel has agreed to obey the
laws or the book of the covenant. A covenant between God and Israel!

Gentile nations were not a party involved in this agreement. The terms of the agreement
do not apply to the Gentile nations. Scripture most clearly identifies physical Israel and God
as the parties legally bound by this contract.

You are quite correct DHC, and my former post was written poorly and gave an incorrect impression. Allow me to reconfigure my thoughts on this.
Notice how God asked Moses to present His offer to the people. Here are all the elements of a true covenant. Conditions and promises are laid down for both sides. If the children of Israel accept God's proposal, a covenant will be established. How did they respond to the divine offer? "And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the Lord commanded him. And all the people answered together, and said, All that the Lord hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the Lord."
So yes, Israel certainly did promise to obey, and God, on condition of their obedience, accepted.But not on condition of Israel's promise, but on condition of their obedience. The letter to the Hebrews tells us that there were two things wrong with the old covenant. It was faulty, and it was based on poor promises. This can not mean or refer to the Ten Commandments. Although those commandments were the basis for the covenant, they were not the covenant itself. The covenant was based "on all these words". The verbal agreement between the two parties was the covenant. God presented the law, and then the covenant was made. Obey the law and I promise to etc.... Paul says the covenant was faulty and based on a poor promise. Was the law faulty? Not at all. Did the law contain a poor promise? No. But the agreement between God and Israel was faulty, and did indeed contain a poor promise.
The Ten Commandments were the basis for the agreement. The people promised to keep that law, and God promised to bless them in return. The crucial weakness in the whole arrangement revolved around the way Israel promised. There was no suggestion that they could not fully conform to every requirement of God. Neither was there any application for divine assistance. "We can do it," they insisted. Here is a perfect example of leaning on the flesh and trusting human strength. The words are filled with self-confidence. "All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient."
Were they able to keep that promise? In spite of their repeated assurances, they miserably broke their word before Moses could even get off the mountain with the tables of stone. Do we begin to see where the poor promises lay in the Old Covenant?
The book of Hebrews begins to unfold. There God is reported as "finding fault with them." Hebrews 8:8. He said, "Because they continued not in my covenant ... I regarded them not." Verse 9. The blame is placed squarely upon the human side of the mutual pact. Thus, we can see exactly why Paul wrote as he did about this Old Covenant in Hebrews 8. It did gender to bondage, it proved faulty, had poor promises, and vanished away - all because the people failed to obey their part of the agreement. Putting all these things together we can see why a new covenant was desperately needed, which would have better promises.

How were the New Covenant promises better? Because God made them, and they guaranteed successful obedience through His strength alone. "I will put my laws into their mind ... I will be to them a God ... I will be merciful to their unrighteousness and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more." Hebrews 8:10-12.

The new covenant does not involve a change in the laws of God, (as opposed to the laws of Moses) but rather in the way they are obeyed. God writes His laws on the hearts and minds of the converted child of God and they are then empowered to obey in God's strength.

It is most important for us to understand that the New Covenant law written on the heart is exactly the same law that was graven on the stone. Those great spiritual principles reflect the very character of God, and form the basis for His government. The difference is not in the law but in the ministration of the law. Written only upon the tables of stone, they can only condemn and minister death, "because the carnal mind ... is not subject to the law of God." Romans 8:7. Received into the heart which has been spiritualized by the converting grace of Christ, the same law becomes a delight. The beloved John declared, "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:3. Not only is the law not grievous for the Spirit-filled child of God, but obedience becomes a joyful possibility. The psalmist wrote, "I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart." Psalms 40:8.

 

[B-A-C]

Proper exegesis is to examine all these verses you purport do say confession is made to a priest, BEFORE you reject what someone says. Modern Jews do NOT confess to priests and they do not make sacrifices. They do however confess sins against one another to the offended person just as James instructs us (5:16) as Christians to do, so in that way they do the same thing we do.

The modern Jews I know do. Also the entire purpose of the priest was confession and sacrifice. They had NO other purpose at all. How do you suppose they knew what to sacrifice without knowing what the sin was?

 

[Stan53]

The modern Jews I know do. Also the entire purpose of the priest was confession and sacrifice. They had NO other purpose at all. How do you suppose they knew what to sacrifice without knowing what the sin was?

Not what I've read or been told by Jews, who I worked for ALL my life. I suggest you read the following verses. Nothing is said about WHAT the sin was or that it was even told to the priests. Leviticus 4:1-5:13; 6:24-30

 

[DHC]

The new covenant does not involve a change in the laws of God, (as opposed to the laws of Moses) but rather in the way they are obeyed. God writes His laws on the hearts and minds of the converted child of God and they are then empowered to obey in God's strength.

Hello Brakelite.

I am grateful that you recognised the faults in your former post. The scripture is very clear and precise in its presentation of Christ.
We have a duty to heed to all the scripture and the specific revelation that it contains.

You stated brakelite;
The new covenant does not involve a change in the laws of God, (as opposed to the laws of Moses) but rather in the way they are obeyed.???

Now brakelite I will ask you to read the following verses pertaining to the change in the law and priesthood.

Hebrews 7
11 Now if perfection was through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the people received the Law), what further need was there
for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be designated according to the order of Aaron?
12 For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also.

18 For, on the one hand, there is a setting aside of a former commandment because of its weakness and uselessness
19 (for the Law made nothing perfect), and on the other hand there is a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

22 so much the more also Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant.
28 For the Law appoints men as high priests who are weak, but the word of the oath, which came after the Law, appoints a Son, made perfect forever.

I am not sure how you deal with these verses, no doubt you will employ some theological tactic.

Further brakelite as you are aware we Gentiles were not members of the Mosaic covenant . Hence considering Acts 15 in context it is clear that
we Gentiles do not follow the ten commandments. We are under the law of Love, not the written law.

In fact brakelite, there is no scripture to support the idea that Gentiles must adhere to any O.T law!

 

[spirit1st]

The laws of LOVE and Faith are what He now writes in our heart .
They are not a lesser law , but a greater eternal laws

He called us to a greater work . Too be a living sacrifice , to live a endless life for Him. That means forever more .

He calls us to be His priests and kings . To be a part of His family and household with power too raise the dead , heal the sick , cast out devils and too overcome all things for His glory and honor .
to battle against the devil and over come him. Setting many free of the devil power over them .

Our first duty He expects is to take care of our own family first . those He has delivered into our hands to care for and raise up for His glory and honor.
Many lose there families thinking He wants where they attend to be first . that not truth.

We are called to serve now. It starts by serving our families . Of course He tell us when He has others works we are to go do ? He does me .

2Co_6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
1Ti_5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

So many are tricked into treating there wives as children as if they do not count ? They count lots in the LORD Eyes .

God told me once ?
If a man would do three things He would take care of everything in that man life!
1- take family to church
2- Read the bible with family
3- Get on your knees and pray with family \

If you can hear Him, Just ask Him if that is truth or a lie?
He will reveal it to you if you Love him first !


You know when I was first born again . The Lord told me once i was worse than a infidel . I said Why LORD. He said your to take care of Your family first.
i was putting the church where i went first . The pastor had told me . I was to give to them first .
It was not true .
I was following everything the pastor said . I thought He knew more and it sounded right .I was not following the LORD but man .

The churches are full of people following man and not the LORD who we belong too .

Lots of churches are still preaching the old covenant . The parts that helps build there kingdoms ?

God does wants us to help build. But on Him . though LOVE and faith .

I believe in working and giving . But I know it must be by His leading and where He calls us to. not where we decide or are tricked into giving or working?


We need to know, From Him if we are doing the right things at that time? Sometimes we might be doing more harm than good ? But it might look good to us ?

Rom_8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Luk_12:12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

Heb_5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

1Jn_2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Joh_14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things

Eph_1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Gal_1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

1Co_2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

Rom_1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Faith that He will teach us and His Words are alive and living and truth .

He Never leaves us or forsakes us . That His promise to US .

We just need to get used to asking and hearing and then obeying.

Once we reveal scriptures to others ? Then the holy Ghost can start dealing with us and them . sometimes the scripture we are revealing to others ? Are for us to learn and walk a deeper walk with HIM .
Bless all here who love our LORD JESUS CHRIST and the truth and want too serve Him more perfectly in the mighty name of our Lord Jesus Christ .
May the Spirit of Peace be upon your household and family .
Lovingly in our Lord , gary