Hate sin
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Bendito
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I was wrestling with a specific sin years ago. During that time I had to search myself and ask myself, "Why do I always do that?" The fact was...I enjoyed doing that. God tells us to avoid something because it's hurtful to us. If we do it anyway we get hurt. So...The question had to be...."Do I love the thing more than I love God?" I believe we have trouble with certain sins in our lives, we like to call them 'besetting sins', and the question has to be...Why do I do that? I'm willing to bet a cookie that it's because we like that particular activity....So do we like it more than we love God?
regibassman57
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@Bendito,
Paul said it was no longer him that does it, but Satan in him. You are not fighting against yourself, but against spiritual wickedness. The battle becomes easier when we know who we are fighting against. We say we enjoy it because of how we feel, but when a believer understands the good emotional feeling comes from the devil, they will start resisting it and automatically start understanding the good feeling was the deception. At which point the struggle gets easier because the believer will be dealing with the root of the problem.
Paul said it was no longer him that does it, but Satan in him. You are not fighting against yourself, but against spiritual wickedness. The battle becomes easier when we know who we are fighting against. We say we enjoy it because of how we feel, but when a believer understands the good emotional feeling comes from the devil, they will start resisting it and automatically start understanding the good feeling was the deception. At which point the struggle gets easier because the believer will be dealing with the root of the problem.
Dovegiven
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Where does scripture say "Satan in him" in that context? Satan is one fallen angel stripped of heavenly powers. How might he be able to inhabit more than one person at a time in the capicity of a controlling agent? Even gentiles lacking the gospel, the Law, have laws unto themselves, and will be judged according to their conscience, not according to habitation by Satan. The devil doesn't need to control every person. He can rest in the simple violation of conscience without repentance.
A recurring habit of a sin pattern is originated in the mind, the memory. A sinle event in our life can root in the memory such that we relive the event, adding to it by imagined furterence of the event, an escalating event brought to a hoped for present or future outcome. It's all a figment of the mind perhaps initiated and bolstered by devilish encouragement.
It's why we must learn to obey to cast down evil imaginations, replacing them with holy imaginations. One starts with righteous thoughts while awake, training the subconscious to reduce evil dreams. Practice whatever word of God you have. In time the bad habits dwindle to obscurity. The desired outcome is to detest an old evil imagination, with a determined desire to eradicate it. The Holy Spirit will help, according to how much Word is put in you. Read that Bible! You know you are on track when you stop entertaining the initial new evil thought.
" NO, I will not think that way! Git outta here, Satan! Thank You God for directing my every thought."
A habit of that will lead to very productive thoughts leading to witty inventions, timely solutions, to living righteously, to abundant living.
regibassman57
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@Dovegiven,
You said: “Where does scripture say "Satan in him" in that context?”
I don’t know how you read it but I read that “sin is Satan” (his kingdom), just as God told Cain, “sin” lies at the door and “his desire is toward you;” before Cain killed his brother Abel (Gen. 4:7). This is what Paul is saying. This is learned in meditating on God’s word. Yes, Satan is not in Paul, but his influence through harassing spirits of darkness tempting him.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not,” it is no more I that do it, but “sin” that “dwells” in me.”
Gen 4:7 If thou doest well, shall you not be accepted? and if you do not well, sin (Satan) lies at the door. And unto thee shall be “his” desire, and thou shall rule over him.
You said: A recurring habit of a sin pattern is originated in the mind, the memory. A sinle event in our life can root in the memory such that we relive the event, adding to it by imagined furterence of the event, an escalating event brought to a hoped for present or future outcome. It's all a figment of the mind perhaps initiated and bolstered by devilish encouragement.
That’s not what scripture says:
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith you shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
You make it seem like a man is fighting against himself; he’s not. I agree we must practice our speech in mediating casting down every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God; but this is done because we are literally fighting against Satan’s kingdom. The only way we get God’s word in us and understand it is through meditation.
You said: “Where does scripture say "Satan in him" in that context?”
I don’t know how you read it but I read that “sin is Satan” (his kingdom), just as God told Cain, “sin” lies at the door and “his desire is toward you;” before Cain killed his brother Abel (Gen. 4:7). This is what Paul is saying. This is learned in meditating on God’s word. Yes, Satan is not in Paul, but his influence through harassing spirits of darkness tempting him.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not,” it is no more I that do it, but “sin” that “dwells” in me.”
Gen 4:7 If thou doest well, shall you not be accepted? and if you do not well, sin (Satan) lies at the door. And unto thee shall be “his” desire, and thou shall rule over him.
You said: A recurring habit of a sin pattern is originated in the mind, the memory. A sinle event in our life can root in the memory such that we relive the event, adding to it by imagined furterence of the event, an escalating event brought to a hoped for present or future outcome. It's all a figment of the mind perhaps initiated and bolstered by devilish encouragement.
That’s not what scripture says:
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith you shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
You make it seem like a man is fighting against himself; he’s not. I agree we must practice our speech in mediating casting down every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God; but this is done because we are literally fighting against Satan’s kingdom. The only way we get God’s word in us and understand it is through meditation.