The kingdom of God

Yib2me said:
Do they commit sin in the kingdom of God?
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Not only do they sin, some in the kingdom of God are actually "tares" and "bad fish".

Matt 13:24; Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field.
Matt 13:30; 'Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn."'"

Matt 13:47; "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind;
Matt 13:49; "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
Matt 13:50; and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Not only that, there was/will be a war in heaven with God and the angels that rebelled.

Rev 12:7; And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war,

The current heaven will be replaced with a new heaven one day.

1 Jn 1:8; If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
 
B-A-C said:
Not only do they sin, some in the kingdom of God are actually "tares" and "bad fish".

Matt 13:24; Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field.
Matt 13:30; 'Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn."'"

Matt 13:47; "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind;
Matt 13:49; "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
Matt 13:50; and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Not only that, there was/will be a war in heaven with God and the angels that rebelled.

Rev 12:7; And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war,

The current heaven will be replaced with a new heaven one day.

1 Jn 1:8; If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
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Do people commit sin after they are born again?
 
Yib2me said:
Is this literally or figuratively?
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Literal.

God sees Jesus covering us. We are 100% perfect to God but never ''perfect'' like God.

Perfection from us is not 100% abstinence from sin. It is true repentance. Salvation, washed by the blood of Jesus is God's gift to us.
 
KingJ said:
Literal.

God sees Jesus covering us. We are 100% perfect to God but never ''perfect'' like God.

Perfection from us is not 100% abstinence from sin. It is true repentance. Salvation, washed by the blood of Jesus is God's gift to us.
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How exactly is it that you were literally washed by the blood of Jesus the Christ?
 
B-A-C said:
Not only do they sin, some in the kingdom of God are actually "tares" and "bad fish".

Matt 13:24; Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field.
Matt 13:30; 'Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn."'"

Matt 13:47; "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind;
Matt 13:49; "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
Matt 13:50; and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Not only that, there was/will be a war in heaven with God and the angels that rebelled.

Rev 12:7; And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war,

The current heaven will be replaced with a new heaven one day.

1 Jn 1:8; If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
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If we have not been born of God and we say that we have no sin we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us for it is written
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

True or false?
 
Yib2me said:
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
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This is unfortunately not the best translation. A few better translations would be...

(AMPC) No one born (begotten) of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, for God's nature abides in him [His principle of life, the divine *****, remains permanently within him]; and he cannot practice sinning because he is born (begotten) of God.
(GW) Those who have been born from God don't live sinful lives. What God has said lives in them, and they can't live sinful lives. They have been born from God.
(MSG) People conceived and brought into life by God don't make a practice of sin. How could they? God's seed is deep within them, making them who they are. It's not in the nature of the God-begotten to practice and parade sin.
(NAS77) No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
(NASB) No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

This is slightly different than KJV. which leaves out a word from most manuscripts
(KJV) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

poieō
poy-eh'-o
Apparently a prolonged form of an obsolete primary; to make or do (in a very wide application, more or less direct): - abide, + agree, appoint, X avenge, + band together, be, bear, + bewray, bring (forth), cast out, cause, commit, + content, continue, deal, + without any delay, (would) do (-ing), execute, exercise, fulfil, gain, give, have, hold, X journeying, keep, + lay wait, + lighten the ship, make, X mean, + none of these things move me, observe, ordain, perform, provide, + have purged, purpose, put, + raising up, X secure, shew, X shoot out, spend, take, tarry, + transgress the law, work, yield. Compare G4238.
Total KJV occurrences: 576

They cannot "abide" in sin. (live in it ). They cannot "exercise" sin (do it over and over). They cannot "practice" it.
 
Yib2me said:
If we have not been born of God and we say that we have no sin we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us for it is written
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

True or false?
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True is false.
 
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