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Why is this not being taught in Church?

Samson2020 said:
Are you serious??
Matthew 26:56 "But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him and fled." And Acts 1:16 for conformation. Judas was predestined to be the betrayer of Jesus by the wisdom of God and the Holy Ghost had written about it in Psalms. And it was Satan that entered into him so they both had a role in the betrayal or carrying out of the scripture fulfillment.
Satan is not in rebellion to God he has a job to do, he is the waster, the smith that blows the coals of the fire. God created him for the purpose he serves. Jesus
said that Satan was a liar from the beginning. So the question would be the beginning of what? His appointment by God to be the waster? Or his initial making? Either way God made him what he is. Paul tells us that "I am what I am by the grace of God." But you would say that we are what we are because of our own choices? Satan included? Does this not remove the sovereignty of God? Best look into the book of Job and see the relationship between God and Satan. And look again at Isaiah 8 where you get your idea of Lucifer being Satan if you read a little further down is says "Is this the MAN that caused nations to tremble?" First you tell me you've seen people standing in front of the throne of God choosing hell??? Then this???? Your understanding is very wrong and in need of help. Best pray for understanding ALOT.

And lastly I feel I should show you a scripture you will not accept but I'm gonna show you anyway.
Isaiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things."
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If everything is predestened then what is the point . Why bother. Why try to do the will of God . As there is nothing for me to do.
 
Bill said:
I tell you truely the Thief on the Cross recieved all that was neccessary because of his compassion for Jesus.

You can not enter Heaven without Love . And what is God ? God is Love.

Compassion is a deep form of Love
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God makes allowances in some cases and wipes off the rest of the impurities!!
 
Bill said:
The Lord told me once , the only limit to the Gifts is your own imagination
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Amen!! dats why I didn't give a clear answer because we don't the full extent, im liking wats coming out of you!! ur showing good signs, God reveals some much 2 me but also keeps so much back, its for our own good!! its a shame theres not enough Christians having tho's intermit one on ones wiv God!! uno even wen im posting on here I ask 4 his permission!! were not testifying of God enough in our day! pslams 105:1-2
 
Bill said:
If everything is predestened then what is the point . Why bother. Why try to do the will of God . As there is nothing for me to do.
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Calvinism teaching dat its all predestined. Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
 
You do not try to do the will of God as it is only His will that is being accomplished. "Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven." He didn't say this as
wishful thinking he knew it was true.
Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the MYSTERY of HIS WILL, according to HIS GOOD PLEASURE which he hath PURPOSED IN HIMSELF.
1:11"In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, BEING PREDESTINATED according to the purpose of him WHO WORKETH ALL THINGS AFTER THE COUNSEL OF HIS OWN WILL."

THE POINT IS THAT WHAT HE HAS IN STORE FOR YOU IS FAR GREATER THAN ANYTHING YOU COULD IMAGINE. However you may and have been a vessel to dishonor as he made you, to fulfill his will. The sad part is that we liked being sinful, we enjoyed inflicting pain on one another etc.... carnal mind at full capacity.
But if we remember when Jesus told Peter to "forgive so that you may be more like your Father which is in Heaven." Without sin coming at you, and someone doing the sinning, you couldn't FORGIVE nor GROW up into your Fathers likeness.
THIS IS THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY. It encompasses the lives of every single human on the face of the Earth on a second by second basis. For those who have been chosen to mature spiritually and have been born of the Spirit they come to understand that everything that enters their life is from his hand and meant for their maturity.
Gods MYSTERY is SONS, a multitude of them with his capacity. How he chooses to accomplish this is that Mystery of Iniquity. I.E. Why does EVIL exist?
To mature his chosen ones. And to allow you to know good and evil which he says that in itself makes you like him. But you could not be trusted with unlimited ability until you have overcome evil to the point that the only thing that exudes from you is LOVE. The knowledge of evil is still with you but the only time you would employ it is at his direction solely for the purpose of maturing another brother. This subject is an entire big book that can't be but slightly explained in a post. And since its line upon line etc.... who knows when one will be able to comprehend it, especially in light of not actually grasping the SOVEREIGNTY of GOD. If one still believes that God lets you choose or is wishful that you'll choose him you do not understand the limitless Father that is incapable of failing to fulfill his own will whether or not we like it. And if you truly understood HIS WILL you'd rejoice because with the understanding comes
the freedom.
 
What existed before God?
What was made that did not come from God?
Are ALL things possible with God?
Did God have his own SON crucified for a GOOD purpose?

You have a long way to go but at least your asking the right questions.
 
Lol computers
Samson2020 said:
You do not try to do the will of God as it is only His will that is being accomplished. "Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven." He didn't say this as
wishful thinking he knew it was true.
Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the MYSTERY of HIS WILL, according to HIS GOOD PLEASURE which he hath PURPOSED IN HIMSELF.
1:11"In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, BEING PREDESTINATED according to the purpose of him WHO WORKETH ALL THINGS AFTER THE COUNSEL OF HIS OWN WILL."

THE POINT IS THAT WHAT HE HAS IN STORE FOR YOU IS FAR GREATER THAN ANYTHING YOU COULD IMAGINE. However you may and have been a vessel to dishonor as he made you, to fulfill his will. The sad part is that we liked being sinful, we enjoyed inflicting pain on one another etc.... carnal mind at full capacity.
But if we remember when Jesus told Peter to "forgive so that you may be more like your Father which is in Heaven." Without sin coming at you, and someone doing the sinning, you couldn't FORGIVE nor GROW up into your Fathers likeness.
THIS IS THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY. It encompasses the lives of every single human on the face of the Earth on a second by second basis. For those who have been chosen to mature spiritually and have been born of the Spirit they come to understand that everything that enters their life is from his hand and meant for their maturity.
Gods MYSTERY is SONS, a multitude of them with his capacity. How he chooses to accomplish this is that Mystery of Iniquity. I.E. Why does EVIL exist?
To mature his chosen ones. And to allow you to know good and evil which he says that in itself makes you like him. But you could not be trusted with unlimited ability until you have overcome evil to the point that the only thing that exudes from you is LOVE. The knowledge of evil is still with you but the only time you would employ it is at his direction solely for the purpose of maturing another brother. This subject is an entire big book that can't be but slightly explained in a post. And since its line upon line etc.... who knows when one will be able to comprehend it, especially in light of not actually grasping the SOVEREIGNTY of GOD. If one still believes that God lets you choose or is wishful that you'll choose him you do not understand the limitless Father that is incapable of failing to fulfill his own will whether or not we like it. And if you truly understood HIS WILL you'd rejoice because with the understanding comes
the freedom.
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Tell me . As we know all is done by the will of God. Why does scripture say about Gods Two Witnesses , " as often as "" they "" wish"
 
Sounds as though you don't have that answer? But if you actually believe what you just wrote"As we know all is done by the will of God" The answer is right there. They are doing his will whether they know it or not.
 
Ms Sue,

Since you agree with me on the Sovereignty of God. Would you also agree that he only shows his secrets to those whom he chooses to show them too?
 
He shows His Will to those who seek Him.

God's Word isn't really all that 'secretive'. There are those who seem to think that only 'super spiritual' people Really know God's Word and His Will.

Most of Christianity is down to earth daily living.
 
Samson2020 said:
Sounds as though you don't have that answer? But if you actually believe what you just wrote"As we know all is done by the will of God" The answer is right there. They are doing his will whether they know it or not.
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I am at work .

There is no such thing as Predestination.

Some secrrets of Gods has not been shared.

All that mankind needs to learn of and grow in can be found in Scripture . And yes there are layers.
Literal , spiritual , and much more.
 
Bill said:
I am at work .

There is no such thing as Predestination.

Some secrrets of Gods has not been shared.

All that mankind needs to learn of and grow in can be found in Scripture . And yes there are layers.
Literal , spiritual , and much more.
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:eek:
 
It is supposed to be read and heard, not taught. The book of Revelations (Rev.1:1) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which GOD gave unto him, to SHOW unto HIS SERVANTS things which Must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John....ff to verse 3.
That is why it is not to be taught, it is supposed to be read and heard. We obey “Holy Scripture” we are doers of the the Word. Remember❤️ Just a little reminder❤️The world don’t get that.
 
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