3 part question on masturbation.

[Brad Huber]

So you have Proclaim that i have said something that was "UNHOLY". We will see did I proclaim those words at the "Bema Seat" for your words has been "Document" and I will address your "accusation' your charge that you have declared before "All Creation", But i do "Hope" The word of God will be true in my case. For I know I am guilty of a lot of things; So I know, with a bow down head and bending knees. and if I need Help, "The Advocate" will be by my side. if The "Holy Scripture" is not True, Concern me. I hope Jesus did not lie, concerning me, that he would never leave me or forsake me. Never, no matter how many evil words are speaking against me.

“No weapon that is formed against you will prosper;
And every tongue that accuses you in judgment you will condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,
And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.

For I do know these words are true as well:
Jesus said:
“And I say to you, that every careless word that men shall speak, they shall render account for it in the day of judgment.“For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned.”

So i am prepare to meet your words, "Brad Huber" at "the Bema Seat"

So.... you dont have a good answer and proclaim Christ alone will prove you right at Great throne judgement? Either answer proving your esteemed knowledge of scripture, or admit what you say is not biblical.

 

[Dave M]

Brad sex out side of marriage is very unholly perhabs he was reffering to that, that is the way I took it

 

[Brad Huber]

Brad sex out side of marriage is very unholly perhabs he was reffering to that, that is the way I took it

Perhaps my friend. But why couldnt he say that?

 

[PloughBoy]

So.... you dont have a good answer and proclaim Christ alone will prove you right at Great throne judgement? Either answer proving your esteemed knowledge of scripture, or admit what you say is not biblical.

Sir, i know it is hard for you to understand, because you are worldly and speak in worldly terms using religious words, for you can never understand what i am saying, unless it has been reveal to you in light of "Holy Scripture". Now, you are mentioning a "great throne judgment' that i have spoken absolutely nothing about. Nor have i referred not one time to a "great throne judgment" Things you are talking about, you have applied in respective to your our worldly ways and understanding and out-of-sync pertaining those things I am referring to in "Spiritual" Truth, pertaining to the posts in this thread, and you have become mis-guided in the meaning of my words as well as the "english syntax" and by doing so, our conversation is running around with no value, because you are not understanding what i am saying.

And I am commanded to edify my brothers and sisters not to come down but encourge them to come up, in word and deed, if possible.

And i do see there is No "Fear of God" it seems in you. Nor any reguards to His "sons" nor can you recognize one. and it would seem you like "mocking" one with ease.

Interesting

 

[RebornInChrist]

So you have Proclaim that i have said something that was "UNHOLY". We will see did I proclaim those words at the "Bema Seat" for your words has been "Document" and I will address your "accusation' your charge that you have declared before "All Creation", But i do "Hope" The word of God will be true in my case. For I know I am guilty of a lot of things; So I know, with a bow down head and bending knees. and if I need Help, "The Advocate" will be by my side. if The "Holy Scripture" is not True, Concern me. I hope Jesus did not lie, concerning me, that he would never leave me or forsake me. Never, no matter how many evil words are speaking against me.

“No weapon that is formed against you will prosper;
And every tongue that accuses you in judgment you will condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,
And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.

For I do know these words are true as well:
Jesus said:
“And I say to you, that every careless word that men shall speak, they shall render account for it in the day of judgment.“For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned.”

So i am prepare to meet your words, "Brad Huber" at "the Bema Seat"

I tell you that Jesus our Lord whom is called Christ did not lie. No deceit was found on his lips.
God spoke from heaven concerning Jesus and he said
"This is my beloved Son: hear him."

All you need to do is believe.

Jesus said "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me"

So I was reading in the Book of Hebrews chapter 4 today in- (Gods word translation: Please don't call it a false translation like some internet conspiracy theorists do, read it over before you judge the translation)
I was reading in it and it says
"So we must make every effort to enter that place of rest. Then no one will be lost by following the example of those who refused to obey.
[Hebrews 4:11]

"Obey" means to follow his command...
As I quoted the savior earlier he said believe in God and believe also in him--Jesus.

Because we know God is good because he would not abandon his creation... He stuck with his plan for mans salvation even after the first man sinned...
With my knowledge of scripture I believe that to obey God is to believe God.
I used to think the unpardonable sin spoken of by Jesus was literally a blasphemy in your thoughts or out your mouth. Both those things are bad and shouldn't be welcome in your temple(your body)..
But after sitting down and reading the surrounding texts of those passages it opens my eyes that the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is .."choosing" to not believe...when the spirit convicts you of the truth.
So please keep believing that the Lord will save you. Your sins are paid for by the precious blood of Jesus Christ.

So our God wants all the Glory of being our deliverer, provider, creator, sustainer, and author of salvation and only wise God for himself.
The Spirit of God inspired scripture...
Jesus is the Son of the living God.
The Father is the spirit of God. The Son of God is the Image of the invisible God.
And Jesus is Gods only begotten.
Jesus was born after a virgin that God chose to bear his image--was with child. And Jesus is a miracle(in every way) Jesus was born of miraculous means.. God cares about even the afflicted.
When Jesus and his disciples passed by a man who was born blind.. They asked Jesus--“Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”
Jesus answered “Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God should be revealed in him. I must work the works of Him who sent Me while it is day; the night is coming when no one can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
When He had said these things, He spat on the ground and made clay with the saliva; and He anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay. And He said to him, “Go, wash in the pool of Siloam” (which is translated, Sent). So he went and washed, and came back seeing."

..Jesus cared for the afflicted even the ones born afflicted... Just like he cares about me and you. <3
He would not leave us without a way(Jesus is thee way)
God promised to send One who would save Israel from their sins. Jesus is that one. Jesus the promised messiah and he offers eternal life to all who believe in his name!
Belief is to begin faith.. Its the begining of submission.
I believe in the Lord Jesus I know he is good! He is the good shepherd!
We humanity needed a perfect sacrifice for our sins.. The spirit of God created everything! And Jesus Christ came into the world by that spirit, that's his spirit!

Blasphemy of the Holy spirit is denying the Lord and we know the scriptures say "if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”

So know this brother: that if you believe in Jesus you will be saved even if you are expelled from a church, or if your poor, or a slave or worker or non worker. No matter what anyone says.
Trust in the word of God.

As a person who is born again meaning I am Holy spirit filled... I am poor here on earth but I am rich in spirit.
I will always have spiritual food located in the Bible.
I understand that St Paul the Apostle states "But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints."
So do not name anything evil at church let the pastor read the scriptures aloud at church.. He might be willing to hear you about your infirmity, like mines does about my diagnosed schizophrenia.
So always keep sin out the door. Only name Jesus at church. Conform to the standard at church... Do not let a hint of immorality be named in Gods house.
"But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints." Esv or how Niv puts it - "But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people."


So Jesus will never leave you or forsake you "plough boy".
If you haven't received the Holy spirit then ask and it will be given.

“If your child asks you for bread, would any of you give him a stone? Or if your child asks for a fish, would you give him a snake? Even though you’re evil, you know how to give good gifts to your children. So how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask him?"
Matthew 7:9‭-‬11 GW

So ask for the Holy spirit...
If you have faith in Jesus or merely believe in his name you should get baptized!
When you get baptized by a christian your asking for good, your asking for the one who is good to make his home inside of you!
If you confess him your asking for the Lord to be with you, so ask him even saying -
"Lord Jesus, I know you are the risen Christ, you died for my sins and rose from the grave in victory over death! Please give me your Holy spirit!"

And forgive anyone as well! He will convict you of all unrighteousness! -
"That’s why I tell you to have faith that you have already received whatever you pray for, and it will be yours. Whenever you pray, forgive anything you have against anyone. Then your Father in heaven will forgive your failures.” 
Mark 11:24‭-‬25 GW

 

[Sue D.]

@RebornInChrist

The only part that you need to look at further is Baptism. Baptism by immersion is taught in Scripture -- it is to show others in the church or outdoors -- where ever the baptism is taking place. That you've already believed in your heart - - that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried and rose again to give us new life In Christ. That is what baptism by immersion is signifying. You've already believed in your heart and Now want to show others of your belief. And desiring to life your life for Christ.

No one has to ask for the Holy Spirit -- He comes to indwell us at the moment Of our salvation.

And yes, you've placed your faith in Jesus Christ.

You're asking Jesus Christ to be your personal Savior. And thanking Him For His gift. You're accepting His gift Of salvation.

And, yes, the Holy Spirit Will let you know when you need to ask forgiveness. But each individual has to do that for him/herself. I can pray for the salvation of other people. But they have to do the accepting for themselves.

When a person Does get baptized -- it will be the pastor of the church who baptizes you. He will Also be sharing with those around you that Baptizm does Not save a person. The shed blood of Christ is sufficient to place your faith in for your salvation.

And, yes, our spiritual food is in God's Word.

 

[RebornInChrist]

@RebornInChrist

The only part that you need to look at further is Baptism. Baptism by immersion is taught in Scripture -- it is to show others in the church or outdoors -- where ever the baptism is taking place. That you've already believed in your heart - - that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried and rose again to give us new life In Christ. That is what baptism by immersion is signifying. You've already believed in your heart and Now want to show others of your belief. And desiring to life your life for Christ.

No one has to ask for the Holy Spirit -- He comes to indwell us at the moment Of our salvation.

And yes, you've placed your faith in Jesus Christ.

You're asking Jesus Christ to be your personal Savior. And thanking Him For His gift. You're accepting His gift Of salvation.

And, yes, the Holy Spirit Will let you know when you need to ask forgiveness. But each individual has to do that for him/herself. I can pray for the salvation of other people. But they have to do the accepting for themselves.

When a person Does get baptized -- it will be the pastor of the church who baptizes you. He will Also be sharing with those around you that Baptizm does Not save a person. The shed blood of Christ is sufficient to place your faith in for your salvation.

And, yes, our spiritual food is in God's Word.

Hello Ms Sue D..
Do you happen to be a pastor and what denomination do you affiliate with? Just asking...
Me I attend a mennonite church.. But I've been baptized by immersion 3 years ago and by sprinkling on of water when i was raised as a catholic adherent.
But I do feel convicted that a immersion baptism is best because we become immersed in Christ!
And its symbolic of the death of the old man, and the birth of the new creation in Christ Jesus our Lords name!
Yes I agree with you on all of that dogma. <3

 

[Sue D.]

@RebornInChrist -- No -- I'm not a pastor of any church but I am a Baptist. A group of churches that are designated as Independent Baptist churches.

In order for a person to be a pastor of a church -- the person would need to feel called by God to do that. The Holy Spirit would be directing the person that way.

And there are qualifications For being a pastor / elder bishop of a mixed group of believers. 1 Timothy 3:1 and 2 specifically about being a husband of one wife. And that disqualifies women to be a pastor.

However, women Can lead Bible studies for women. There are Lots of women who are good as leaders for women.

I've been looking up Mennonite church / beliefs -- live very simple lives and are part of the Anabaptist group. Very Baptistic. Interesting.

Everyone has a unique past. May I ask what brought you out of the RCC beliefs? And what brought you to the Mennenite group.

This is Way off topic.

Do you know how to access 'Conversation' area? We can continue there if you'd like to.

 

[RebornInChrist]

@RebornInChrist -- No -- I'm not a pastor of any church but I am a Baptist. A group of churches that are designated as Independent Baptist churches.

In order for a person to be a pastor of a church -- the person would need to feel called by God to do that. The Holy Spirit would be directing the person that way.

And there are qualifications For being a pastor / elder bishop of a mixed group of believers. 1 Timothy 3:1 and 2 specifically about being a husband of one wife. And that disqualifies women to be a pastor.

However, women Can lead Bible studies for women. There are Lots of women who are good as leaders for women.

I've been looking up Mennonite church / beliefs -- live very simple lives and are part of the Anabaptist group. Very Baptistic. Interesting.

Everyone has a unique past. May I ask what brought you out of the RCC beliefs? And what brought you to the Mennenite group.

This is Way off topic.

Do you know how to access 'Conversation' area? We can continue there if you'd like to.

Well to be quite honest I've been going regularly for about 6-7weeks now. I've missed service 2 out of 7 weeks including this past weekend.
I have schizophrenia that keeps me up late at night. And sometimes I miss service because my schizophrenic voices keep me up late at night.
I been to this church before in 2018 in April for about a month. Then I returned for a week in 2019 in late January..
And in Late October to early November I've been going to the mennonite church.

I consider myself just a Christian.
But I would take their baptism if they either offered or I felt it wouldn't be a burden to ask for one. But they are nice people biblical based sermons. Holy spirit filled people.

I do believe in the dogma that the mennonites profess and believe in. I agree with it. But I don't know what is next.. I just read the word if God and I'm ready if and when the Lord will call me to a position.

I am thankful for having the Bible. <3

What is the conversion area if I may ask?

 

[Sue D.]

@RebornInChrist -- The 'Conversation' area is like the Messenging area of Facebook. Being able to have private conversation / interaction with / instead of being on Facebook where everyone can see your comments. I use both of those areas of conversation, but don't know how to explain how To access.

Considering the topic of this thread Of discussion , I doubt if anyone else will access it. Guess we'll find out.

So -- it sounds like you've still been in the RCC a fair amount. What led you to the Mennonite Church? Their beliefs are quite different.

My late-husband's family -- several of his brothers married into the RCC church. Their wives were / are in that church. One of the sister-in-law's is very open to conversation but the other isn't.

To be honest -- I don't think Anyone 'knows what's next'. We are only given 'today'. We can make plans For the future -- and we Should. But realizing that what we Plan to do and what actually Gets Done isn't especially the same.

The church I go to -- it's open with services or on-line -- a person who feels led To be baptized approaches the pastor about it -- he will probably ask you why you want to be baptized -- explain what the Bible says about it. And it's usually done in conjunction with joining the church. Usually a person will have accepted Jesus Christ as personal Savior and then felt led to be baptized by immersion and the baptism is part of the church service.

There's another thread of discussion that you've been in -- wondering about what a Christian man who is single should do. Your bio information says that you're 25 yrs. old. You're the same age as my oldest granddaughter.

There Are those who Don't believe in 'dating' -- but getting to know those of the opposite sex in a group setting -- like a single's group at church. Then if /when / they are attracted to a particular person they can 'pair off' and get to know each other more personally. And, yes, being a born again believer would be the 1st consideration.

God Did create people to want to be sociable , get married and have family. But that doesn't mean every person Has to get married. Lots of people are better off single. People tend to forget how to be Friends and nothing more.

 

[Dave M]

as reading this morning a few versus came to me and reminded me of this thread. First I will say to all that my belief is that masterbation is sin.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.

--------------------sexually immoral person sins against his own body,,,,,,,,,,,,, that sure sounds like masterbation to me

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

..........................................your body is not your own......................sounds to me we have no right using or body in a immoral way,

Now @Brad Huber I thought of your question to ploughboy,,,,,,,, when I read this today I can easily see his point of view here, can you???? @PloughBoy is this what you were referring to?????

1 Corinthians 7:1
Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”

1 Corinthians 7:2
But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

 

[Sue D.]

@Dave M. -- Thanks for your input. It has always been appreciated. Until this thread came up, I'd never thought much about masterbation -- it's one of those subjects that not usually brought up over 'morning coffee'. It would possibly be brought up as kids come in to their teen-aged years.
Maybe it's along the lines that God is able to take care of our individual needs no matter what they are.

Your other comments -- Re: Brad Huber -- that passage has been interesting. vs 1. If men and women didn't have sexual relations together -- well -- God told us to be fruitful and multiply. It's kind of hard to do that if men and women don't get together. Maybe it's meant that if a man has a high libido -- he needs an outlet rather than him being frustrated. -- which would be getting married. Unless he asks God to take those strong urges away from him , until........

Guess it just didn't occur to me that it Would be immoral.

So -- I'm learning something.

And I probably Won't get into the 'Communication' area unless it's with a moderator.

 

[Dave M]

Your other comments -- Re: Brad Huber -- that passage has been interesting. vs 1. If men and women didn't have sexual relations together -- well -- God told us to be fruitful and multiply. It's kind of hard to do that if men and women don't get together. Maybe it's meant that if a man has a high libido -- he needs an outlet rather than him being frustrated. -- which would be getting married. Unless he asks God to take those strong urges away from him , until.....

you know this brings another question that I had in this,, and that is was sex only created for the purpose of having children??

 

[Sue D.]

@Dave M -- sex was also created for a married couple to enjoy each other. But only within marriage. And only with each other. So -- another aspect -- when a husband can't be with his wife for a while -- that would something the husband and wife would talk about and ask for God's guidance?! And husbands who go on business trips out of town for a while -- they Can get on the phone with their wives and talk about pretty much Anything. But that would be done Only between a husband and wife. And now days -- people can have Zoom visits, too. And, that, again, would be only for husbands and wives in that particular context.

Zoom is used quite a lot these days in place of being able to see people in person to say "Hi" -- one guy wanted his kids to have Father's Day together with him -- so they connected via Zoom.

 

[RebornInChrist]

@RebornInChrist -- The 'Conversation' area is like the Messenging area of Facebook. Being able to have private conversation / interaction with / instead of being on Facebook where everyone can see your comments. I use both of those areas of conversation, but don't know how to explain how To access.

Considering the topic of this thread Of discussion , I doubt if anyone else will access it. Guess we'll find out.

So -- it sounds like you've still been in the RCC a fair amount. What led you to the Mennonite Church? Their beliefs are quite different.

My late-husband's family -- several of his brothers married into the RCC church. Their wives were / are in that church. One of the sister-in-law's is very open to conversation but the other isn't.

To be honest -- I don't think Anyone 'knows what's next'. We are only given 'today'. We can make plans For the future -- and we Should. But realizing that what we Plan to do and what actually Gets Done isn't especially the same.

The church I go to -- it's open with services or on-line -- a person who feels led To be baptized approaches the pastor about it -- he will probably ask you why you want to be baptized -- explain what the Bible says about it. And it's usually done in conjunction with joining the church. Usually a person will have accepted Jesus Christ as personal Savior and then felt led to be baptized by immersion and the baptism is part of the church service.

There's another thread of discussion that you've been in -- wondering about what a Christian man who is single should do. Your bio information says that you're 25 yrs. old. You're the same age as my oldest granddaughter.

There Are those who Don't believe in 'dating' -- but getting to know those of the opposite sex in a group setting -- like a single's group at church. Then if /when / they are attracted to a particular person they can 'pair off' and get to know each other more personally. And, yes, being a born again believer would be the 1st consideration.

God Did create people to want to be sociable , get married and have family. But that doesn't mean every person Has to get married. Lots of people are better off single. People tend to forget how to be Friends and nothing more.

If I had to explain autism its like I can be socialable but around only certain people.. I don't know how to put it..
Yeah what lead me to the current church is that it was always a nice church to attend and I enjoy going there I feel the sermons talk to me... And it seems like the church I feel is biblical but its also a school for young children by chance and I like the Pastor he is the one I'm drawn to at the church.
I'm grateful that this church is right around the corner of my house... It seems like it was right under my nose the whole time.
Its very small like 15-20 different people I've seen there so far... But a few years ago the Easter service was loaded with people!
I'm especially shy when there are 40-50 people around me.

 

[RebornInChrist]

@RebornInChrist -- The 'Conversation' area is like the Messenging area of Facebook. Being able to have private conversation / interaction with / instead of being on Facebook where everyone can see your comments. I use both of those areas of conversation, but don't know how to explain how To access.

Considering the topic of this thread Of discussion , I doubt if anyone else will access it. Guess we'll find out.

So -- it sounds like you've still been in the RCC a fair amount. What led you to the Mennonite Church? Their beliefs are quite different.

My late-husband's family -- several of his brothers married into the RCC church. Their wives were / are in that church. One of the sister-in-law's is very open to conversation but the other isn't.

To be honest -- I don't think Anyone 'knows what's next'. We are only given 'today'. We can make plans For the future -- and we Should. But realizing that what we Plan to do and what actually Gets Done isn't especially the same.

The church I go to -- it's open with services or on-line -- a person who feels led To be baptized approaches the pastor about it -- he will probably ask you why you want to be baptized -- explain what the Bible says about it. And it's usually done in conjunction with joining the church. Usually a person will have accepted Jesus Christ as personal Savior and then felt led to be baptized by immersion and the baptism is part of the church service.

There's another thread of discussion that you've been in -- wondering about what a Christian man who is single should do. Your bio information says that you're 25 yrs. old. You're the same age as my oldest granddaughter.

There Are those who Don't believe in 'dating' -- but getting to know those of the opposite sex in a group setting -- like a single's group at church. Then if /when / they are attracted to a particular person they can 'pair off' and get to know each other more personally. And, yes, being a born again believer would be the 1st consideration.

God Did create people to want to be sociable , get married and have family. But that doesn't mean every person Has to get married. Lots of people are better off single. People tend to forget how to be Friends and nothing more.

Oh and another thing is this I don't know Spanish and I have half hispanic in me and I cant even think of connecting with the person who does. But maybe God would make it happen if he wanted.
His will be dine not mine.

 

[Sue D.]

@ RebornInChrist -- I'm half German and half Swedish, but I've never had an interest in learning either of those languages. Just saying that you're being half Hispanic doesn't mean you have to learn Spanish. Is it a woman who speaks it and you're too shy to approach her about learning the language? I do understand somewhat about the autism. And it Could be that you're simply really shy.

I do remember when I was in grade school that I'd be in the classroom but be content to stare out the big windows across the room. All of a sudden I'd realized that I was missing what the teacher was saying. No one ever approached me or my parents about it. But that was about 50 yrs ago. I'd find myself having 'zoned out' numerous times and having to figure out really fast what was going on.

There's a nephew who's autistic and a grandson who'd been some what OCD.

Our brains are complex as our psyche's are. Sometimes it can be puberty -- and adjusting of our hormones that can mess us up. And sometimes the fact that we live in a fallen world -- there are going to be problems - physical --emotional -- psychological, mental problems to deal with. Medication / counseling can help at times.

 

[Brad Huber]

Sir, i know it is hard for you to understand, because you are worldly and speak in worldly terms using religious words, for you can never understand what i am saying, unless it has been reveal to you in light of "Holy Scripture". Now, you are mentioning a "great throne judgment' that i have spoken absolutely nothing about. Nor have i referred not one time to a "great throne judgment" Things you are talking about, you have applied in respective to your our worldly ways and understanding and out-of-sync pertaining those things I am referring to in "Spiritual" Truth, pertaining to the posts in this thread, and you have become mis-guided in the meaning of my words as well as the "english syntax" and by doing so, our conversation is running around with no value, because you are not understanding what i am saying.

And I am commanded to edify my brothers and sisters not to come down but encourge them to come up, in word and deed, if possible.

And i do see there is No "Fear of God" it seems in you. Nor any reguards to His "sons" nor can you recognize one. and it would seem you like "mocking" one with ease.

Interesting

As usual, you have nothing good to say about me. The bema seat you spoke of... had no idea what it was, thats the religiousness from you, so I looked it up, and it referred the Judgement seat in heaven, hence the great white throne. If you want to be understood, speak plainly. As to fear of God, I do have fear of God, but not of man, which you are. Does one need fear you and believe whatever you say before you treat them kindly? Learn to be kind to others, or learn the lessons that God will give to those who dont.

 

[Brad Huber]

as reading this morning a few versus came to me and reminded me of this thread. First I will say to all that my belief is that masterbation is sin.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.

--------------------sexually immoral person sins against his own body,,,,,,,,,,,,, that sure sounds like masterbation to me

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

..........................................your body is not your own......................sounds to me we have no right using or body in a immoral way,

Now @Brad Huber I thought of your question to ploughboy,,,,,,,, when I read this today I can easily see his point of view here, can you???? @PloughBoy is this what you were referring to?????

1 Corinthians 7:1
Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”

1 Corinthians 7:2
But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

Dave, our body is a temple of the Holy Spirit. My body is a temple of the Holy Spirit. God made man first... alone...so of course it is good to not have sexual relations with a woman, for we were created "good". So do you think God created women only for children? And yes, there is temptation to sexual immorality. Have you never experience the temptation? Are you married? I am married, and I didnt get married to avoid sexual immorality. I married because I wanted a woman to love me, to feel the joy of being loved by another human being, of them wanting to be my best friend, to want to spend lots of time with me, to work together with me to accomplish good works. Is this foreign to you? You make marriage sound sort of dirty, something lesser people do when they cant control their urges.

 

[PloughBoy]

As usual, you have nothing good to say about me. The bema seat you spoke of... had no idea what it was, thats the religiousness from you, so I looked it up, and it referred the Judgement seat in heaven, hence the great white throne. If you want to be understood, speak plainly. As to fear of God, I do have fear of God, but not of man, which you are. Does one need fear you and believe whatever you say before you treat them kindly? Learn to be kind to others, or learn the lessons that God will give to those who dont.

Brad the "Bema Seat" is not the same thing as the Great White Throne Judgment . I'm sorry you do not nderstand.