WE HAVE TO EAT JESUS

[God's Truth]

@God's Truth
I always strive to remind people that one verse is not a descriptor or an issue.

NO SCRIPTURE CAN BE PUT ASIDE.
I can hardly believe that you don't know that.

John 4:31-34 "Jesus teaches his disciples the source of His strength and satisfaction."
They had not yet learned of how Jesus thought and until then their thinking meat was limited.
Analogies seem to be lost on them for a large part.
"I have food to eat of which you do not know." - Jesus knows things they will not but will teach them what they can know. He is saying the most important thing (meat/food) is the will of His Father. That does NOT neglect the needs of our body. The mission comes first.
Everyone needs food and water to live. I've never starved but I have gone long periods without any or much food (long story). In the military, when deployed we often carry so much on missions. We were burning lots of energy as they were.

Jesus is teaching about WHAT IS SPIRITUAL and you are thinking about eating literal food.

I'm sure all can agree that pain is uncomfortable but from being hungry (not starvation).
We focus our lives on necessities, work, other people and tend to neglect or limit our priority; God.
We have the two greatest commandments which are the Ten Commandments.

Right, but that would require obedience to all of them, like what I have been saying.

I'm not swimming in money but if I have a way to feed someone else with what I was going to have then they are priority.
It's likely Jesus went hungry and thirsty for long periods but none moreso when He was tempted. On average a human can last roughly 3 weeks without food before there are problems.
He might have been GodMan but He experienced the same things we do.

Jesus was only tempted in the desert and for a short time after he fasted for 40 days and nights. He had no problem rebuking Satan.

 

[MedicBravo]

@God's Truth
You misunderstand. Typing in all caps doesn't make you right.
The point is all who cherry pick given any issue are leaving out the preceding and post verses. It's a poor way of using Scripture.
Anger? Google a verse.
Jealousy? Google a verse.
Mocking? Google a verse.
Per your example, Jesus was stressing the importance of His needs they didn't know about that they/we must learn.
Have you ever done work for someone else b/c they were in need and didn't take payment? Volunteered? Our work is helping other people and it can bring a feeling that numbs pain/discomfort and other flawed meatsack issues.
Given your own example I went to the start of John 4 and read up to 34.
When you use a search engine for x, y, z topic you will skip relevant verses.

 

[GodB4Us]

I'm not talking about the remembrance eating of bread and wine.

Jesus says his food is to do the will of his Father---so why don't you believing our food is to obey Jesus' teachings to us?

Read what Jesus' disciples said to him...

John 4:31 Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something."

32 But he said to them, "I have food to eat that you know nothing about."

33 Then his disciples said to each other, "Could someone have brought him food?"

34 "My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.


Did you read that? Jesus says his food is to DO the will of him who sent me and to FINISH HIS WORK.

We are to do God's will. God's will is that we obey Jesus' teachings.

Now, that proves we eat the flesh of Jesus when we do what Jesus says to do.

How can you say that His words apply to us when Jesus was referring to Himself specifically in that verse of doing the Father's will for Him to do?

You even acknowledged that it is HIS WORK that He will finish so where or why or how do you infer Jesus' meaning for us to do that specific will of the Father that only Jesus can do as God when citing that reference?

 

[GodB4Us]

@GodB4Us

It looks like you are the only one serious about discussing on how to eat Jesus.
We are on a discussion site and people are being picky about discussing too much and being worldly about who they will discuss with.
I am hated here because I am doing something Jesus says to do and that is to contend for the faith and correct and teach and encourage.
No one likes my encouragement and they only want to go by what their teacher of choice said that went against the normal teaching of the Catholics. Isn't that ironic? Everyone here treating me so badly for going against the false faith alone teaching, but we have Lutherans here who go by Luther who went against the Catholic church, and we have Calvinists here who went against Lutherans and Catholics, but they don't dare consider what I say, even though I point everyone not to myself but to Jesus and the written words in the Holy Bible.

It is on God to minister as only He can cause an iron sharpen iron kind of ministry in any discussion. He can break through any church's teaching or the ones individual believers come up with on their own if it be the Father's will.

Patience is key while we wait on God to cause the increase even though we be opposed to each other in most of these discussions.

 

[God's Truth]

@God's Truth
You misunderstand. Typing in all caps doesn't make you right.

I can type in all lowercase and I am still right.

You are rude for I am just highlighting what I am saying.
Some Bible translations have Paul writing in all caps.

Go check yourself because it is not the heart the Lord says to have.

The point is all who cherry pick given any issue are leaving out the preceding and post verses. It's a poor way of using Scripture.

You prove you don't know much because you speak of using scriptures as doing something false and giving it a name like cherry picking.

You really think you proved your false beliefs with all these insults and false judgments?

So sad and pathetic really.

Anger? Google a verse.
Jealousy? Google a verse.
Mocking? Google a verse.

I do more than google a verse. You don't even know how to discuss and reply to another. It is hard to make out what you are even talking about more than half of the time.

Per your example, Jesus was stressing the importance of His needs they didn't know about that they/we must learn.
Have you ever done work for someone else b/c they were in need and didn't take payment? Volunteered? Our work is helping other people and it can bring a feeling that numbs pain/discomfort and other flawed meatsack issues.
Given your own example I went to the start of John 4 and read up to 34.
When you use a search engine for x, y, z topic you will skip relevant verses.

Oh so you want to speak about scriptures now? You want to stop your sinsults and want to speak scriptures. Do it then!

 

[God's Truth]

How can you say that His words apply to us when Jesus was referring to Himself specifically in that verse of doing the Father's will for Him to do?

What??? You don't want to go by what Jesus says as our Teacher and the one who shows us the way?

You even acknowledged that it is HIS WORK that He will finish so where or why or how do you infer Jesus' meaning for us to do that specific will of the Father that only Jesus can do as God when citing that reference?

We are told to eat him and that his food is bread and his flesh is.

If you don't want to acknowledge the truth about it then it is your loss.

 

[God's Truth]

It is on God to minister as only He can cause an iron sharpen iron kind of ministry in any discussion. He can break through any church's teaching or the ones individual believers come up with on their own if it be the Father's will.

Patience is key while we wait on God to cause the increase even though we be opposed to each other in most of these discussions.

You have to repent for believing and following falseness though! You refuse to repent of doing wrong but claim to repent is just to change your mind about not believing in Jesus.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

@Jesus_is_LORD @MedicBravo and anyone else,


Do you want to explain to me how Jesus' food is to do what the Father says, but our food is not to do what Jesus says?


John 4:34 "My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.

Yes dear brother, I can explain, I've feed on this food before and it is delicious.

What is man?

We are body, spirit, and soul.

Many focus on feeding the body but don't feed the spirit. When we do the word of God, it is like food for our spirit.
I have experienced this many times. I'll be working on a project for the Lord, and not eat for hours as I'm energized
by the work.

I believe that Jesus is speaking about how our Spirit is feed by God's WORD and God's work.
"Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” - Matthew 4:4

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

I hope you see how when I discuss with others I am serious about understanding them deeply and giving care to what they say. There are people I know give me answers to what I say and ask and it is as if they didn't read anything I said but a first sentence and or a fast skim.
It would have been decent if you would have replied to my post back to you, but so be it that you think you have better things to do here.

I appreciate the replies. I sometimes have to select a few points to response to as my time does not always allow me to respond to all points.
With that said, I enjoy the topics and no disrespect intended. I'm just limited on time and I have to allocate my time wisely, so I'm unable to reply to
every point you mention. But your diligence is noticed and appreciated.

 

[God's Truth]

Yes dear brother, I can explain, I've feed on this food before and it is delicious.

What is man?

We are body, spirit, and soul.

Many focus on feeding the body but don't feed the spirit. When we do the word of God, it is like food for our spirit.
I have experienced this many times. I'll be working on a project for the Lord, and not eat for hours as I'm energized
by the work.

I believe that Jesus is speaking about how our Spirit is feed by God's WORD and God's work.
"Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” - Matthew 4:4

Good grief, dude. What do you think I am saying that is different than what you just said in this post? You are playing now. NOT GOOD.

 

[God's Truth]

I appreciate the replies. I sometimes have to select a few points to response to as my time does not always allow me to respond to all points.
With that said, I enjoy the topics and no disrespect intended. I'm just limited on time and I have to allocate my time wisely, so I'm unable to reply to
every point you mention. But your diligence is noticed and appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Good grief, dude. What do you think I am saying that is different than what you just said in this post? You are playing now. NOT GOOD.

I'm confused by what you are trying to communicate.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Can't just believe, which is as to drink, we have to EAT too.

Jesus says more to do than just believe/drink.

Jesus says DRINK AND EAT.

John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.


How do you eat Jesus?

Jesus was speaking figuratively, NOT literally as in cannibalism. It's really sad that till this day a lot of people are still falsely accusing Christianity of promoting cannibalism like that crowd who first heard this from Jesus.

In numerous instances, His listener interpreted His words literally and reacted to it accordingly - How can a man go back to his mother's womb and be born again? This temple took 46 years to build, how can you rebuild it in three days? You have no bucket and the well is deep, how can you draw water? So you're a king, where's your kingdom? When Jesus taught to eat His flesh and drink His blood, it was no different. It was crystal clear as he demonstrated in the last supper that we take the communion for the purpose of COMMEMORATING him, to remind us that the church is His body and cleansed by His blood. And it's never limited to bread and wine, whatever we eat or drink, we ought to say a grace prayer nonetheless.

 

[God's Truth]

Jesus was speaking figuratively, NOT literally as in cannibalism. It's really sad that till this day a lot of people are still falsely accusing Christianity of promoting cannibalism like that crowd who first heard this from Jesus.

In numerous instances, His listener interpreted His words literally and reacted to it accordingly - How can a man go back to his mother's womb and be born again? This temple took 46 years to build, how can you rebuild it in three days? You have no bucket and the well is deep, how can you draw water? So you're a king, where's your kingdom? When Jesus taught to eat His flesh and drink His blood, it was no different. It was crystal clear as he demonstrated in the last supper that we take the communion for the purpose of COMMEMORATING him, to remind us that the church is His body and cleansed by His blood. And it's never limited to bread and wine, whatever we eat or drink, we ought to say a grace prayer nonetheless.

So how do you eat and drink Jesus? You believe you eat and drink Jesus by the bread and wine and the remembrance supper?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

So how do you eat and drink Jesus? You believe you eat and drink Jesus by the bread and wine and the remembrance supper?

We don't eat His body and drink His blood, we eat our dinner and drink our beverage in REMEMBRANCE of Him (1 Cor. 11:24-25). It signifies the binding of the New Covenant which was proclaimed by Jesus himself in Matt. 26:26-29 and could be traced back in Daniel 9:27 and Jeremiah 31:31. As I said it was never meant to interpreted literally.

 

[God's Truth]

We don't eat His body and drink His blood, we eat our dinner and drink our beverage in REMEMBRANCE of Him (1 Cor. 11:24-25). It signifies the binding of the New Covenant which was proclaimed by Jesus himself in Matt. 26:26-29 and could be traced back in Daniel 9:27 and Jeremiah 31:31. As I said it was never meant to interpreted literally.

Jesus said we are not to literally eat his flesh and literally drink his literal blood.

However, we do have to eat Jesus' flesh and drink his blood.

There is a way to do that spiritually.

Do you know how?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Jesus said we are not to literally eat his flesh and literally drink his literal blood.

However, we do have to eat Jesus' flesh and drink his blood.

There is a way to do that spiritually.

Do you know how?

Just take the communion and share with others. Same as other benefits and conveniences in life.

 

[God's Truth]

Just take the communion and share with others. Same as other benefits and conveniences in life.

To spiritually live off of Jesus by eating his flesh is to obey his teachings.

John 8:51 Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death."

Now that is some food!

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

To spiritually live off of Jesus by eating his flesh is to obey his teachings.

John 8:51 Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death."

Now that is some food!

Right, man shall not leave by bread alone, but every word proceeds from the mouth of God.

 

[God's Truth]

Right, man shall not leave by bread alone, but every word proceeds from the mouth of God.

Luke 11:3 Give us each day our daily bread.

Jesus says for us to pray, give us each day our daily bread. That is having Jesus every day, his words, his teachings. We are to eat Jesus every day, which means to obey every day.


John 6:58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever.”


Jesus says he who “feeds on this bread.” That is not a onetime thing. We are to eat every day. We are to obey every day.

I'm sure you agree, Jonathon_Gale...