WE HAVE TO EAT JESUS

[God's Truth]

Adam's sin was unbelief in God and His words for why he hearkened unto the woman's word thus death by that sin is passed unto all men.

You change the word of God.

Romans 5:14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.


Hosea 6:7 But they like men have transgressed the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against me.


Job 31:33 If I covered my transgressions as Adam, by hiding mine iniquity in my bosom:

 

[God's Truth]

You had said that there were other sins later on in your life as a saved believer that you found out that you needed to be repented of. So I can acknowledge that you did not mean one had to repent from all sins first before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ but your wordings like insisting sinner has to die to the sins of the world is akin to dying to all sins first if you seriously consider the weight of your words.

You are speaking with a bad heart and mind.
I teach to obey Jesus and confess and repent of your sins to get saved.
You keep looking for ways not to obey Jesus.
If you confess and repent of your big sins, and PROMISE to live your life obeying Jesus, like we have to do, and if you find that your overeating is a sin too, then you must repent of that.

I have been patiently trying to help you.

You go against Jesus, Jesus whose gospel starts out with John the baptizer preaching to repent of your sins.

Mark 1:1The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

2As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

3The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

4John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. 5And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.




That is the BEGINNING OF THE GOSPEL of Jesus Christ.

You go against him.

Perhaps if you said that the sinner should be willing to admit they are a sinner in need of the Saviour and so to repent of all the known sins that they know of or in their minds to repent of when coming to and believing in Jesus Christ so that He will deliver them from their sins to no longer live in them and not just give them eternal life.

You are trying hard to act innocent, and as if I said something wrong.

We have to KNOW what are sins are and repent of them.

We have to become as little children ready to do EVERYTHING God says to do.

We have to DIE TO THE SINS OF THE WORLD AND LIVE TO PLEASE JESUS.

Somehow I do not believe that is what you really want to say as you seemingly place the emphasis on salvation on the sinner to repent from sins first if not all sins before coming to believe in Jesus Christ and if that be the meaning, then I have to disagree.... still because I know sinners tried to stop sinning on their own and cannot do it but if they believe Jesus will save them from their sins to sin no more with His help, then I can see them coming to Jesus to believe in Him to be saved... in more ways than one.

You are preaching against the Almighty God.

You can never ever stand before Him and say you didn't know.

You have been told and had it explained to you many times.

 

[God's Truth]

@GodB4Us and all faith alone believers and Calvinists.

You who teach that believing is obeying and the only obedience we have to do to get saved, read these scriptures and you can see Jesus does MORE THAN JUST BELIEVE HIS FATHER GOD.


John 8:51 I tell you the solemn truth, if anyone obeys my teaching, he will never see death.”

John 8:52 Then the Judeans responded, “Now we know you’re possessed by a demon! Both Abraham and the prophets died, and yet you say, ‘If anyone obeys my teaching, he will never experience death.’

John 8:55 Yet you do not know him, but I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you. But I do know him, and I obey his teaching.

John 12:47 If anyone hears my words and does not obey them, I do not judge him. For I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world.48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


See that? Jesus KNOWS God believes God AND OBEYS Him.

 

[God's Truth]

To those who believe in the faith alone doctrine and teach it:

John 8:51 I tell you the solemn truth, if anyone obeys my teaching, he will never see death.”


Jesus says to obey his TEACHINGS and you will never see death.

That is not faith alone to get saved.

We have to believe that we have to obey Jesus.

 

[Beetow]

No, you are teaching wrong.

I'm not listening to you; you're a bad influence.

• John 10:4-5 . . And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice.Yet they will by no means follow a
stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.

You are a stranger to me; so off to the abyss you go on Ignore.
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[God's Truth]

I'm not listening to you; you're a bad influence.

• John 10:4-5 . . And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice.Yet they will by no means follow a
stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.

You are a stranger to me; so off to the abyss you go on Ignore.
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What you said to me is what they said to Jesus. Think about that for awhile.

20And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

 

[God's Truth]

@GodB4Us and all faith alone believers and Calvinists.

You who teach that believing is obeying and the only obedience we have to do to get saved, read these scriptures and you can see Jesus does MORE THAN JUST BELIEVE HIS FATHER GOD.


John 8:51 I tell you the solemn truth, if anyone obeys my teaching, he will never see death.”

John 8:52 Then the Judeans responded, “Now we know you’re possessed by a demon! Both Abraham and the prophets died, and yet you say, ‘If anyone obeys my teaching, he will never experience death.’

John 8:55 Yet you do not know him, but I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you. But I do know him, and I obey his teaching.

John 12:47 If anyone hears my words and does not obey them, I do not judge him. For I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world.48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

We have to obey Jesus' teachings to have life. We don't believe and are given life and then expected to obey. We obey by repenting of our sins and believing his blood purifies us.

 

[God's Truth]

We have to do what Jesus says to do to get saved and we have to do more than just believe.


Matthew 18:3 "I assure you," He said, "unless you are converted and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.



That is not something to obey?



Psalm 50:23 Whoever sacrifices a thank offering honors Me, and whoever orders his conduct, I will show him the salvation of God."



Order your conduct by repent of your sins like God says to do then you will have salvation.



Luke 13:3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.



Jesus says to repent of your sins or perish.

You don't want to believe that?

 

[Garee]

The blood is not called water.

Water is a metphor used in parables.Water is used to represent the unseen work of the Holy Spirit . Water is used to represent the doctrines of God that fall down (loosed inspired from heaven) using diferent source of water to indicate new growth or the power given to the believer . Rain dropping , speech distil as the dew, smal rain washing renewing and showers on green grass. All those water metphors represnt the work of Christ working in the beliver .


Deuteronomy 32 :1-2 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

If read slowly and prayerfull seeking the understanding hid in the gospel parable. In one sence it shows water turning to blood . In the same way with the wedeing supper in Cannan water to wine the blood of the grapes.

1 Chronicles 11:18-20 King James Version18 And the three brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it to David: but David would not drink of it, (water changed to blood ) but poured it out to the Lord.And said, My God forbid it me, that I should do this thing: shall I drink the blood of these men that have put their lives in jeopardy? for with the jeopardy of their lives they brought it. Therefore he would not drink it. These things did these three mightiest.

A picture (parable) of Christ working in the Son of man jesus pouring out his blood in jeapoerty of his own spirit life, and why David refused to drink it but pour it out so that the lifeless spiritles blood could return back to dry ground . in order to show Spirit life was given .

It is something worth studying, because God says life is in the blood...but can you show where the Spirit is called blood?

I did not say the Holy Spirit is called blood. We know that the life of the flesh is in tha blood but again that l;ife is spiritual unseen . Literal blood must be poured out on the dry earth from where it fomed of


Genesis 9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.


There are several veses that indicate blood without the essunce of Spirt life represnted by water has no life to offer An abomination of desolation to litteraly drink it .It ofer no life without nthe spirt or water used to represent the Spirit . No water no green growth (life)

Exodus 4:9 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land: and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become (lifeless) blood upon the dry land.


Exodus 7:21 And the fish that was in the river died; and the river stank, and the Egyptians could not drink of the water of the river; and there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt.

No spirit no life .

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[God's Truth]

Water is a metphor used in parables.Water is used to represent the unseen work of the Holy Spirit . Water is used to represent the doctrines of God that fall down (loosed inspired from heaven) using diferent source of water to indicate new growth or the power given to the believer . Rain dropping , speech distil as the dew, smal rain washing renewing and showers on green grass. All those water metphors represnt the work of Christ working in the beliver .


Deuteronomy 32 :1-2 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

If read slowly and prayerfull seeking the understanding hid in the gospel parable. In one sence it shows water turning to blood . In the same way with the wedeing supper in Cannan water to wine the blood of the grapes.

1 Chronicles 11:18-20 King James Version18 And the three brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it to David: but David would not drink of it, (water changed to blood ) but poured it out to the Lord.And said, My God forbid it me, that I should do this thing: shall I drink the blood of these men that have put their lives in jeopardy? for with the jeopardy of their lives they brought it. Therefore he would not drink it. These things did these three mightiest.

A picture (parable) of Christ working in the Son of man jesus pouring out his blood in jeapoerty of his own spirit life, and why David refused to drink it but pour it out so that the lifeless spiritles blood could return back to dry ground . in order to show Spirit life was given .

You are just too confusing and hard to understand.

I did not say the Holy Spirit is called blood. We know that the life of the flesh is in tha blood but again that l;ife is spiritual unseen . Literal blood must be poured out on the dry earth from where it fomed of


Genesis 9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.


There are several veses that indicate blood without the essunce of Spirt life represnted by water has no life to offer An abomination of desolation to litteraly drink it .It ofer no life without nthe spirt or water used to represent the Spirit . No water no green growth (life)

Exodus 4:9 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land: and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become (lifeless) blood upon the dry land.
Exodus 7:21 And the fish that was in the river died; and the river stank, and the Egyptians could not drink of the water of the river; and there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt.

No spirit no life .

What you wrote here is harder to understand than most posts of yours, at least lately.

 

[God's Truth]

@Garee


Matthew 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

When we are hungry and thirsty for righteousness from God, we come to Jesus. Jesus says, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty.” See John 6:51.

When we come to Jesus and then believe it is as drinking his blood. When we obey Jesus' words it is as eating his flesh.

We have wine and bread and then pure water.
After we eat his flesh and drink his blood, Jesus gives us pure water to drink and that means Jesus gives us the Holy Spirit, John 4:10; 14; John 7:38; 39.

John 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

[GodB4Us]

You change the word of God.

Romans 5:14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.

Adam broke the commandment not to eat from that forbidden tree by hearkening unto the woman's word rather than what God had told him directly not to do. It was part of the curse.

Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Hosea 6:7 But they like men have transgressed the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against me.

There was no Old Covenant to Adam but to the nation of Israel.

Job 31:33 If I covered my transgressions as Adam, by hiding mine iniquity in my bosom:

Again, Adam's transgression was not believing God and His words about not eating from that forbidden tree. That is what he got for listening to the woman rather than what God had commanded. So Job's reference to that transgression as Adam would have been not believing God & His words. That would be the only transgression not visible that he would have hide in his bosom.

So believing in Jesus Christ and His words is how we had received eternal life.

 

[GodB4Us]

We have to obey Jesus' teachings to have life. We don't believe and are given life and then expected to obey. We obey by repenting of our sins and believing his blood purifies us.

When Nicodemus had asked Jesus how one is born again, did Jesus went down a litany of sins for Nicodemus to know of as required to repent in order to "obey" before being born again? Or did Jesus emphasized that by believing in Him is how one is born again of the Spirit and thus have eternal life?

 

[GodB4Us]

@GodB4Us and all faith alone believers and Calvinists.

You who teach that believing is obeying and the only obedience we have to do to get saved, read these scriptures and you can see Jesus does MORE THAN JUST BELIEVE HIS FATHER GOD.


John 8:51 I tell you the solemn truth, if anyone obeys my teaching, he will never see death.”

John 8:52 Then the Judeans responded, “Now we know you’re possessed by a demon! Both Abraham and the prophets died, and yet you say, ‘If anyone obeys my teaching, he will never experience death.’

John 8:55 Yet you do not know him, but I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you. But I do know him, and I obey his teaching.

John 12:47 If anyone hears my words and does not obey them, I do not judge him. For I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world.48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


See that? Jesus KNOWS God believes God AND OBEYS Him.

How do you not know that obeying His teachings about believing Him & His words is to believe Him in how you obey His teachings?

 

[Beetow]

There was no Old Covenant to Adam but to the nation of Israel.

That is a very, very important point because according to Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15,
Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17, God-given laws are not retroactive.

For example: although Cain's slaying of his kid brother was wrong, the slaying
wasn't punishable as a murder in his day because Gen 9:5-6 wasn't given by God
yet to prohibit murder and/or to prescribe a punishment for murderers.
_

 

[God's Truth]

Adam broke the commandment not to eat from that forbidden tree by hearkening unto the woman's word rather than what God had told him directly not to do. It was part of the curse.

Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

There was no Old Covenant to Adam but to the nation of Israel.

The scriptures say Adam had a covenant with God.

Again, Adam's transgression was not believing God and His words about not eating from that forbidden tree. That is what he got for listening to the woman rather than what God had commanded. So Job's reference to that transgression as Adam would have been not believing God & His words. That would be the only transgression not visible that he would have hide in his bosom.

So believing in Jesus Christ and His words is how we had received eternal life.

The scriptures say Adam did wrong by what he did and does not say that he didn't believe. That is a sin what you are doing. You might think it wouldn't be a bad sin, but it is.

 

[Garee]

That is a very, very important point because according to Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15,
Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17, God-given laws are not retroactive.

For example: although Cain's slaying of his kid brother was wrong, the slaying
wasn't punishable as a murder in his day because Gen 9:5-6 wasn't given by God
yet to prohibit murder and/or to prescribe a punishment for murderers.
_

The law was used just not written down .One third of human hiostory was wrriten down after that time perod passed God truth as law is truth before it is wriiten .The same yesterday ,today and tomoeow

The mark of Cain (666) whatsoever God declares will come to pass .Murder the murderer Cain by the sword you will also die . God gave him the life sentance no early parole .


Genisis 4: 13-15 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark (666) upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

 

[God's Truth]

When Nicodemus had asked Jesus how one is born again, did Jesus went down a litany of sins for Nicodemus to know of as required to repent in order to "obey" before being born again? Or did Jesus emphasized that by believing in Him is how one is born again of the Spirit and thus have eternal life?

Nicodemus should have known from the old testament the salvation that would be coming through the repentance of sins. Nicodemus was Israel's teacher and should have known.

 

[God's Truth]

How do you not know that obeying His teachings about believing Him & His words is to believe Him in how you obey His teachings?

Jesus tells us how to get saved and exactly what to do, and he says to believe him. He isn't saying believe him only, he is saying believe him that you have to obey him.
All the scriptures that have Jesus telling us what to do, they aren't nullified by Jesus saying to believe him.

 

[God's Truth]

That is a very, very important point because according to Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15,
Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17, God-given laws are not retroactive.

For example: although Cain's slaying of his kid brother was wrong, the slaying
wasn't punishable as a murder in his day because Gen 9:5-6 wasn't given by God
yet to prohibit murder and/or to prescribe a punishment for murderers.
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Hosea 6:7

But they, like Adam, have transgressed the covenant; there they were unfaithful to Me.