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To what extent does Special Revelation include factors not spelled out therein (merely implied factors)?

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To what extent does Special Revelation include factors not spelled out therein (merely implied factors)? Or, are there no implied parts to Special Revelation? Is its nature that of its being monolithically explicit? Was it monolithically explicit prior to the New Testament? Or is it monolithically explicit only now that, as many Christians believe, the Bible is the 'complete revelation of God for the Church Age' (that is, prior to the Thousand Year Reign---a Reign in which, presumably, Christ shall teach more of the Divine than what the Bible, as we have it, spells out)?

Among Christians there is a claim that, in effect, says that Special Revelation has some factors that are mutually alien to General Revelation. For example, many believe that Genesis 1 teaches that the Sun (and Moon and stars) are created belatedly after many of the things that normally rely on the Sun's light, heat, and gravity; so that, according to them, this is an instance of the kind of Special Revelation that is contrary to what that normal reliance would have us expect as to the sequence in which God would create the Sun.

The claim is essentially that, (One), Fallen Man, left to himself, is unable to see Gospel Truth in General Revelation, and, (Two), therefore, General Revelation does not even imply Gospel Truth.

But it seems to me that much of Special Revelation falsifies the conclusion which is (Two). For example, it seems to me self-evident that much of the Bible implies that Fallen Man, left to himself, is not the objective measure of what it is, in total, of which General Revelation consists.
 
To what extent does Special Revelation include factors not spelled out therein (merely implied factors)? Or, are there no implied parts to Special Revelation? Is its nature that of its being monolithically explicit? Was it monolithically explicit prior to the New Testament? Or is it monolithically explicit only now that, as many Christians believe, the Bible is the 'complete revelation of God for the Church Age' (that is, prior to the Thousand Year Reign---a Reign in which, presumably, Christ shall teach more of the Divine than what the Bible, as we have it, spells out)?

Among Christians there is a claim that, in effect, says that Special Revelation has some factors that are mutually alien to General Revelation. For example, many believe that Genesis 1 teaches that the Sun (and Moon and stars) are created belatedly after many of the things that normally rely on the Sun's light, heat, and gravity; so that, according to them, this is an instance of the kind of Special Revelation that is contrary to what that normal reliance would have us expect as to the sequence in which God would create the Sun.

The claim is essentially that, (One), Fallen Man, left to himself, is unable to see Gospel Truth in General Revelation, and, (Two), therefore, General Revelation does not even imply Gospel Truth.

But it seems to me that much of Special Revelation falsifies the conclusion which is (Two). For example, it seems to me self-evident that much of the Bible implies that Fallen Man, left to himself, is not the objective measure of what it is, in total, of which General Revelation consists.
In honestly, and i am sorry, but i think you are in the wrong house. There are no, Harvard, Yale, or Oxford Theologians or any kind of Doctorates has wrote a Thesis on such matters and neither none, i believe to care , to engage in such matters that is not common unto the common everyday man!

So concerning General or Special Revelation, it would be more profitable to engage with those of "Ligonier" or any kind of those of "Philosophical thought patterns who finds it Thrilling, to engage in such debates rather those who engages in "apologetics" or "eschatology" if it is in regards to The "Original Copied Manuscript" in which there is a variance. and in them "The Absolute" remains the same, it is enough to accomplish to the goal, speaking in the Common man's language: There enough there { that a common man can be may be "SAVED" and FILLED with THE POWER of The LIVING GOD, Who will have The PARAKLETOS residing in them as His or Her Personal Guide! He did, give us, another "ADVOCATE" and did not leave us alone, and I Do say, we could not have it any Better than that!

And Hot Diggity Dog! now, would not you say' And come into the "Agreement" in honoring as such that which is displayed to "the common man" :pensive:

Only a GOD could do that! and I am Popping my finger and shaking my head! Hot Diggity DOG! I like you! bring me some more!:)

be careful, because , I 'm warming up! for you have made the flickering Flame , Flame up again I can feel the Fire burning, it is burning in my soul! and the oil settles and floats the flame and it has become impossible for it to go out. it is as if, it is a "ETERNAL FLAME" and The FLAME, Flames as if, it has No END!

Yes sir! Come and Taste!
 
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The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.


The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts.
 
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