Why does God send people to hell?

[Bill]

As far as you know, Bill. But you do realize that you don't know everything. Yes?


See? Right there. You thinking that I'm coming after somebody. Read the room. Get the timeline straight.


Couldn't care less. Maybe your purpose is so hidden that perhaps you don't even know what it is.


So you're expecting God to log on and post His validation of Bill's .... whatever that whole thing is? What else is "revealed" other than what you say?


Actually, I couldn't care less about so called beliefs. You can believe in the Easter Bunny and Bigfoot for all I care.


Poor little you. You play that pity-me card so many times, the complaint falls on deaf ears. Who cares if you are Catholic. Who should care? I don't.



What matters are the actions one takes, the fruit that one bears, the events where God has done something.

Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him, in the midst of you, as you also know:​

(Acts 2:22 DRB)

You denigrate such outpouring of the supernatural presence of God?, but Jesus did not:

Otherwise believe for the very works' sake. Amen, amen, I say to you, he that believeth in me, the works that I do, he also shall do: and greater than these shall he do.​

(John 14:12 DRB)


Jesus was pretty good with those kind words, right?

Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you devour the houses of widows, praying long prayers. For this you shall receive the greater judgment.​

(Matthew 23:14 DRB)

I kind of like that open mind Jesus had:

Woe to you, Pharisees, because you love the uppermost seats in the synagogues and salutations in the marketplace. Woe to you, because you are as sepulchres that appear not: and men that walk over are not aware. And one of the lawyers answering, saith to him: Master, in saying these things, thou reproachest us also. But he said: Woe to you lawyers also, because you load men with burdens which they cannot bear and you yourselves touch not the packs with one of your fingers. Woe to you who build the monuments of the prophets: and your fathers killed them. Truly you bear witness that you consent to the doings of your fathers. For they indeed killed them: and you build their sepulchres. For this cause also the wisdom of God said: I will send to them prophets and apostles: and some of them they will kill and persecute. That the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation,​

(Luke 11:43-50 DRB)

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness. Thou blind Pharisee, first make clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, that the outside may become clean. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you are like to whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear to men beautiful but within are full of dead men's bones and of all filthiness. So you also outwardly indeed appear to men just: but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.​

(Matthew 23:25-28 DRB)

Soon you'll be telling me that Jesus wasn't even saved.


EVERYTHING you have to say? How absurd and wonderfully self-absorbed. Bill, on the whole, you're not that important.

And they healed the breach of the daughter of my people disgracefully, saying: Peace, peace: when there was no peace.​

(Jeremiah 8:11 DRB)

Blessings,
Rhema

Poor Rhema, without the few of us challenging you, no one to talk with. LOL.

On the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord, your faith will change. If God lives in your heart, you will have the faith like angels. And if God does not live in your heart, you will have less faith than the fallen Angels.

Why do you think that those without God in thier hearts would have less faith? Not that this matters to you.

Well i will answer why. Because the fallen already know the truth, even though they have thrown it away, were those who do not have the love of God in thier hearts have never accepted God's love.

But this also explains why taking the mark of the beast, after experiencing the great and terrible day of the Lord, is such a great sin. Because you will have the faith of Angels knowing full well that God is real with no doubt in your mind

 

[Garee]

Poor Rhema, without the few of us challenging you, no one to talk with. LOL.

On the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord, your faith will change. If God lives in your heart, you will have the faith like angels. And if God does not live in your heart, you will have less faith than the fallen Angels.

Why do you think that those without God in thier hearts would have less faith? Not that this matters to you.

Well i will answer why. Because the fallen already know the truth, even though they have thrown it away, were those who do not have the love of God in thier hearts have never accepted God's love.

But this also explains why taking the mark of the beast, after experiencing the great and terrible day of the Lord, is such a great sin. Because you will have the faith of Angels knowing full well that God is real with no doubt in your mind

I would offer the first century reformation has come.(Hebrew 9) no signs were given to wonder, wonder after .except one new ceremonial sign as a shadow looking to the new heavens is given in 1 Corithian 11: the head uncovering parable.

Christ retuning as the King of kings and Lord of lords. Great tribulation like never before or ever again for the outward Jew that was trusting their dying flesh could profit towards salvation.

A great gospel joy like never before or ever again for mixed families they could now get together under one roof without false religious persecution of Jewish men ,

No such creation called angels meaning messengers. . which are the beautiful feet of the apostles.

Its Christ in not a legion as many gods like patron saints, disembodied workers with a familiar spirit working in them that have no faith as a power from God .

Mark of the beast, mark used 8 times in Revelation. Sign used 2 times. No signs were given to wonder after. Natural unconverted mankind's pagan foundation (Out of sight out of mind) they must seek after a sign the temporal dying things seen.

Like Cain. . bury him under the corn. When asked where is brother. I do not know probably out in the green pastures with the stinky sheep writing songs of prophecy.

Fools, no God in their hearts thinking process.

The Mark of his word . . .what he says; "let there be" and behold "very good". if you murder Cain you will die by the living word.

Buy the gospel truth and sell it not like Cain who sold his firstborn rights to the second born Able seeing no value in the unseen spiritual things of Christ in us. Just like Esu seeing no value in unseen spiritual things sold his for cup of hairy goat soup.

Genesis 4:15And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

No early parole for Cain keep suffering and wondering in purgatory. A restless wanderer all the days of his suffering the pangs of hell.

Unlike Abel yoked with Christ his daily suffering were lighter with a living hope beyond what the eyes see, and ears hear.

 

[Bill]

I would offer the first century reformation has come.(Hebrew 9) no signs were given to wonder, wonder after .except one new ceremonial sign as a shadow looking to the new heavens is given in 1 Corithian 11: the head uncovering parable.

Christ retuning as the King of kings and Lord of lords. Great tribulation like never before or ever again for the outward Jew that was trusting their dying flesh could profit towards salvation.

A great gospel joy like never before or ever again for mixed families they could now get together under one roof without false religious persecution of Jewish men ,

No such creation called angels meaning messengers. . which are the beautiful feet of the apostles.

Its Christ in not a legion as many gods like patron saints, disembodied workers with a familiar spirit working in them that have no faith as a power from God .

Mark of the beast, mark used 8 times in Revelation. Sign used 2 times. No signs were given to wonder after. Natural unconverted mankind's pagan foundation (Out of sight out of mind) they must seek after a sign the temporal dying things seen.

Like Cain. . bury him under the corn. When asked where is brother. I do not know probably out in the green pastures with the stinky sheep writing songs of prophecy.

Fools, no God in their hearts thinking process.

The Mark of his word . . .what he says; "let there be" and behold "very good". if you murder Cain you will die by the living word.

Buy the gospel truth and sell it not like Cain who sold his firstborn rights to the second born Able seeing no value in the unseen spiritual things of Christ in us. Just like Esu seeing no value in unseen spiritual things sold his for cup of hairy goat soup.

Genesis 4:15And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

No early parole for Cain keep suffering and wondering in purgatory. A restless wanderer all the days of his suffering the pangs of hell.

Unlike Abel yoked with Christ his daily suffering were lighter with a living hope beyond what the eyes see, and ears hear.

I'm reading what you're saying but it's a little hard to follow what you're trying to say could you be a little more explicit please

 

[Garee]

I'm reading what you're saying but it's a little hard to follow what you're trying to say could you be a little more explicit please

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for any confusion

I can try and keep it shorter beginning with what I offered first. The first century reformation has come. The foundation In1 Samuael 8.

Samuel the prophet sent as an apostle with prophecy. In jealousy of all the surrounding Pagan nations (unredeemed faithless) mankind demanded of those atheist Jews that gathered themselves together. . . .give us a visual King the pagan foundation of all the kingdoms of the world "out of sight out of mind" God, calls fools. . no faith as power that can look ahead .

We look back at the first century reformation, restoring Christ as head, it looked ahead to us as witness of them

1 Samuel 8:4-9Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,;And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.;But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord.;And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto Thee. Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.

And then I can try to explain what I mean. Christ retuning as the King of kings and Lord of lords.

 

[Rxlx]

There is no hell for humans - only for Satan and Popey.

All the dead are in their graves until Judgment Day (apart from the 144,000 martyrs who will be resurrected early and the the returned rapturees who help Jesus rule Earth and repopulate it) and the dead know nothing so obviously they cannot tell where they are - just as in a deep sleep we know nothing.

Bible truths are so difficult for you brainwashed people to accept!

 

[Garee]

There is no hell for humans - only for Satan and Popey.

All the dead are in their graves until Judgment Day (apart from the 144,000 martyrs who will be resurrected early and the the returned rapturees who help Jesus rule Earth and repopulate it) and the dead know nothing so obviously they cannot tell where they are - just as in a deep sleep we know nothing.

Bible truths are so difficult for you brainwashed people to accept!

The 144,000 in that parable represent the whole chaste virgin bride. All believers receive the same reward. Eternal life

Hell, the daily suffering we experience in these earthen bodies of death after the letter of the law (thou shalt not) or in dying you will come to an end and body return to dust .

Yoked with Christ he makes the suffering of hell lighter with a living hope beyond these bodies of death.

The earthen body return to clay and temporal spirit given under the letter of the law (death) returns to the Father of all spirit life.

All believers are witnesses called martyr that in the end die. No special one that die earlier Catholic teaching, worship the dead ones (patron saints 3500 and rising his and her gods)

LOL Bible truths are so difficult for you brain polluted people to accept!

 

[Rxlx]

The 144,000 in that parable

REad a good Bible.

 

[Bill]

Rxlx and Garee, I'm sure you're very fine people. But this conversation is too off the deep end even for me. Please refrain from responding to any of my messages I'm just not going to bother with responding.

As about everyone else knows here, I'm more than willing to talk to people who wish to talk normal scripture, but whatever you guys are quoting from is not anything I've ever seen or read in my lifetime.

 

[Rxlx]

Rxlx and Garee, I'm sure you're very fine people. But this conversation is too off the deep end even for me. Please refrain from responding to any of my messages I'm just not going to bother with responding.

As about everyone else knows here, I'm more than willing to talk to people who wish to talk normal scripture, but whatever you guys are quoting from is not anything I've ever seen or read in my lifetime.

Then you need to get a good KJV Study Bible to make sense of what Jesus taught!

 

[Rxlx]

LOL Bible truths are so difficult for you brain polluted people to accept!

Look in a mirror?

 

[Garee]

Look in a mirror?

Its only funny when two people are laughing and if you grin, you're in. . . . . . LOL

I most certainty did not say that.

Are you angry about something?

Rxlx and Garee, I'm sure you're very fine people. But this conversation is too off the deep end even for me. Please refrain from responding to any of my messages I'm just not going to bother with responding.

As about everyone else knows here, I'm more than willing to talk to people who wish to talk normal scripture, but whatever you guys are quoting from is not anything I've ever seen or read in my lifetime.

Sorry Bill

Not a salvation issue.

Hearing and moved to believe was not anything I've ever seen or read in my lifetime. When first hearing and every time, he gives us a new understanding is like the first time. It why thinks he told the Nicolaitans to return to the first love hearing the word and do it, the first work empowered by the labor of Christ love.

I am slow learner hoping to have the confidence if he begun the good teaching work he will finish. Believers have no desire to stay lukewarm. If we error Christ does not give up .Erroring is not false prophecy. Adding to it or taking away through "I heard it through the father's grape vine" oral tradition is false prophecy, false teachers, false apostles.

Philippians 1:5-6;For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now;;Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Open book test

It is my goal to define the key words that the identity thief (spiritual plagiarism). Satan the god of racism (sin) has usurped .Violating the law not to add new meaning to one word it can change all the commandments as to the authority behind.

Making sola scriptura without effect

Prophecy, prophets, apostles, sabbath (Greek words) Many words have their meaning changed especially today in the WOKE world. The father of lies with all power to deceive, lying sings to wonder, wonder, wonder after as is true prophecy

Deuteronomy 42Ye shall not add unto the word (singular) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,(singular) that ye may keep the commandments (plural) of the Lord your God which I command you.

 

[Rxlx]

Its only funny when two people are laughing and if you grin, you're in. . . . . . LOL

I most certainty did not say that.

Are you angry about something?


Sorry Bill

Not a salvation issue.

Hearing and moved to believe was not anything I've ever seen or read in my lifetime. When first hearing and every time, he gives us a new understanding is like the first time. It why thinks he told the Nicolaitans to return to the first love hearing the word and do it, the first work empowered by the labor of Christ love.

I am slow learner hoping to have the confidence if he begun the good teaching work he will finish. Believers have no desire to stay lukewarm. If we error Christ does not give up .Erroring is not false prophecy. Adding to it or taking away through "I heard it through the father's grape vine" oral tradition is false prophecy, false teachers, false apostles.

Philippians 1:5-6;For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now;;Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Open book test

It is my goal to define the key words that the identity thief (spiritual plagiarism). Satan the god of racism (sin) has usurped .Violating the law not to add new meaning to one word it can change all the commandments as to the authority behind.

Making sola scriptura without effect

Prophecy, prophets, apostles, sabbath (Greek words) Many words have their meaning changed especially today in the WOKE world. The father of lies with all power to deceive, lying sings to wonder, wonder, wonder after as is true prophecy

Deuteronomy 42Ye shall not add unto the word (singular) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,(singular) that ye may keep the commandments (plural) of the Lord your God which I command you.

Oh dea how childish Garee is.

How it is impossible for him to check the Bible truths I post but instead resorts to some quote from Rowan and Martin's Laugh in.

Racism is not sin but fact based on Ham's descendants being the evil giants of history and the pagans of today.

Ham's Giant offsrping are mentioned in the BIble and the ancient records of the Anglo_Saxons - aka Ephraim and Manasseh of the Ten Lost Tribes who settled England as the Romans were being recalled to defend Rome.

​

 

[Johanabrahams]

We see clearly in Adam and in Cain why people got into hell. Not God sending them but just God giving them what they asked. After being warned. And they still chose it. Hell is being dead in intellect and knowledge you eat from the tree of knowledge. Where you are a wretched sinner in weakness of Adam life. In thinking you are "good" it just show how blind you are to not even realize you need saving from this "untoward generation" and their existence in "hell". Which is an existence without God which already give you "hell on earth".

Acts 2:
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Rejecting the Saving Grace of God's Love mean you will go yourself to the place where God "is not present". Because you don't want Him and His Glory in your life. That is hell chosen and lived and kept there by your own pride. Because even there Grace is present. But it will just be more "torment" and "fire" to your dead soul in darkness of hell. Which you chose. And which God created for all to have a place where they can "hide from God" with their "fig leaves".

 

[Rxlx]

Hell is purely for Satan.

All other dead are in their graves until Judgment Day when many will be granted life on the renewed Earth but many will be instantly and totally discombooberated.

 

[Garee]

Oh dea how childish Garee is.

How it is impossible for him to check the Bible truths I post but instead resorts to some quote from Rowan and Martin's Laugh in.

Racism is not sin but fact based on Ham's descendants being the evil giants of history and the pagans of today.

Ham's Giant offsrping are mentioned in the BIble and the ancient records of the Anglo_Saxons - aka Ephraim and Manasseh of the Ten Lost Tribes who settled England as the Romans were being recalled to defend Rome.

​

Hi Thanks

Racism shown by the left (Democrats) like misogynism is sin. Judging by outward appearance. . called man pleasers. . no spiritual understanding from the gospel

Satan the identity thief. King of lying signs to wonder, wonder, wonder, marvel after as if God was still adding to prophecy. (sola scriptura)

The "I will be like God and ascend to the cloud of His holy presence" Stealing the identity looking on the outside but not the heart which God alone can do.

Satan. . . . . . . . Just identify your own self to whoever or whatever you own imagination comes up with. Trick or treat 24/7 .

The government teaching children how to use their sexual imagination .

Perhaps living out the one the childhood they did not have?

Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

The doctrine of reincarnation. Anyone's guess, neither male nor female, human or animal the skies the limit . . . .

Meow. meow. meow Cat litter in the classroom Tampoons in the boy's bathroom

The abomination of desolation. Prophylactics, tampons in the litter box.

 

[Rxlx]

Hi Thanks

Racism shown by the left (Democrats) like misogynism is sin. Judging by outward appearance. . called man pleasers. . no spiritual understanding from the gospel

Satan the identity thief. King of lying signs to wonder, wonder, wonder, marvel after as if God was still adding to prophecy. (sola scriptura)

The "I will be like God and ascend to the cloud of His holy presence" Stealing the identity looking on the outside but not the heart which God alone can do.

Satan. . . . . . . . Just identify your own self to whoever or whatever you own imagination comes up with. Trick or treat 24/7 .

The government teaching children how to use their sexual imagination .

Perhaps living out the one the childhood they did not have?

Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

The doctrine of reincarnation. Anyone's guess, neither male nor female, human or animal the skies the limit . . . .

Meow. meow. meow Cat litter in the classroom Tampoons in the boy's bathroom

The abomination of desolation. Prophylactics, tampons in the litter box.

Yep. Those Democrats and our Labour are evil.

 

[Brad Huber]

Yep. Those Democrats and our Labour are evil.

Is it true what I heard, that they wanted to tear down a statue of churchill?

 

[Rxlx]

Is it true what I heard, that they wanted to tear down a statue of churchill?

Bitain has been overrun by animalic, pagan and Satanic people from Africa, Asia, Slavic countries.
It is too late ot do anything about but as I beleive Jesus will return soon I just wait and hope ot be saved while all these invaders get slaughtered.
I actually stood up in court afew years ago and pointing at my lying Muslim accusers said: They are all walking dead and will be slaughtered when Jeus returned!'
They just smirked and the judge ignored my remark but as Matthew 10:14 says tthey have been told and I shake their dust off my shoes.

'Churchill is a killer!' Activists demands former Prime ...​

Daily Express​

https://www.express.co.uk › News › Politics
9 Jan 2022 — 'Churchill is a killer!' Activist demands former Prime Minister's statue 'be torn down'. ANTI-slavery activist Kofi Mawuli Klu sparked a furious ...

Call to remove Churchill mural puts Labour council on spot​

Inside Croydon
https://insidecroydon.com › 2020/06/09 › call-to-remo...
9 Jun 2020 — A councillor-backed petition to remove the image of the wartime leader from the side of a town centre building appears to do just that.

Portraits of Winston Churchill have been pulled from the ...​

Daily Mail
https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-14432475
3 days ago — Portraits of many famous British figures have been taken down since Labour won the election, including pictures of Winston Churchill. Just .............................................

Labour aka democrats aka Marxists hate British culture and history.​

Many Labourites are the unwashed uneducated products of 60 years of garbage television soap operas.

The Kofi Mawuli Klu mentioned above is a black immigrant with the typical black IQ of just 70 and is too dumb to know that black people were trading slaves long before Britain, Spain, France etc got in on the act.

Britain

 

[Garee]

Is it true what I heard, that they wanted to tear down a statue of churchill?

They want to tear down all objects than can affect their wokeness (imagination)

Refusing to look to memories of past that show God was working like the Civil War .And create their New Utopia, new idols.

Progressivism always learning never coming to an end salvation.

2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

I think the answer to the Kamla mystery

What Can Be, Unburdened By What Has Been'?

No more yesterdays. No law no trespass, Defund the Police, open the terrorist borders, supply the boy's room with tampons, promote reincarnation

 

[Rxlx]

Acts 24:14; But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

15; And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.