Why does God send people to hell?

[Rhema]

You called Jesus a liar every time you said Satan isn't ruling Earth right now.

And you call Jesus a liar every time you say that Satan IS ruling the Earth right now.

Why do you have such a problem understanding the timeline of events in the New Testament?

The declaration by Jesus of his rule was written AFTER the Resurrection:

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER/AUTHORITY IS GIVEN unto me in heaven AND IN EARTH.​

- Matthew 28:18 KJV

It doesn't say "Will be given..." does it? Why can't you read what is actually written? And if you can, why do you reject Christ before men, elevating Satan to where he does not belong?

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

If you remove that chapter of the book of law then there is no warning not to add or subtract from the perfect sealed with 7 seals till the end of time .

Oh Garee, Garee, Garee, what shall I do with thee?

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish (subrtract) ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.​

- Deuteronomy 4:2 KJV



God bless,
Rhema

 

[Garee]

Oh Garee, Garee, Garee, what shall I do with thee?

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish (subtract) ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.​

- Deuteronomy 4:2 KJV



God bless,
Rhema

LOL Rhema, Rhema, Rhema. Why do you add?

 

[Rhema]

LOL Rhema, Rhema, Rhema. Why do you add?

Them's are fightin' words. Just WHERE have I added?

 

[Garee]

Them's are fightin' words. Just WHERE have I added?

I'm ready. . .I have the whole armor of God on to include Revelation the last chapter . Put up your dukes LOL

You have added by taking away the law not to add or subtract from the last chapter of the book of law Revelation. Adding. . Like the Didache or the Gospel of Thomas? What of the Acts of Barnabas?

No law no trespass

Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: ;And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Sealed with 7 seals till the end of time. Unlike the other warning (deuteronomy4:2) not to add or subtract from one word .One word can change the authority. . . . spiritual plagiarism, violating the first commandment. No other gods to include Satan the leader of false gods, false prophet, false apostles, false teachers

Both warnings working as one to protect the integrity of the one author Christ.

 

[complete]

Like the Didache or the Gospel of Thomas? What of the Acts of Barnabas?​

Hello @Rhema,

I was referring to the record that we have in Scripture. I do not consult anything other than the Bible: It contains the sum of all Divine revelation.

And yet Jesus said you ought to:​

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Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.​

- Matthew 7:15 KJV​

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For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is (I met him) in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.​

- Matthew 24:24-26 KJV​

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And if these words contradict the actual teachings of Jesus?​

* The Bible is the plumb-line by which all teaching should be measured.

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The thing is, you do distinguish, if you ascribe to a canon. But who has selected your canon? How did it develop?​

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I'm sure you realize that the Roman Catholic Church created the canon that you use, and most would say that these Bishops were guided by God. And yet, why do Protestants believe that God guided the Catholic Bishops in selecting the canon, but did not (or was unable to) guide these very same Bishops to preach an accurate Gospel of Salvation? All I ask is that Protestants (sorry, I'm not one - neither Catholic) recognize the conundrum - the contradiction - in their thinking; in their beliefs.​

* I am not affiliated with any denomination, or body of believers, by whatever name they are known, or by whatever doctrine they are identified.

I would wholeheartedly agree, both the LOGOS word of God, and the RHEMA word of God. But Paul's words are his own, and he had even given advice from his own thoughts and not that of the "Lord." (Just in case I need to cite this: cf. 1st Cor. 7:12.) Don't you think that we ought to look at the actual words written, and not obfuscate, adulterate or mix concepts via religious emotion? That's how we ended up with this doctrine of Hell.​

* Yes, I believe that the written word, rightly divided, is the only source of Divine truth, and that it is the responsibility of each one of us to search the Scriptures for ourselves to ensure that what we are imbibing, whether through teaching, or the literature we read. is true. Yes, every word is important, and accuracy is essential. Every traditionally held doctrine, whatever it is, should stand up to the scrutiny of Scripture. If not we must ask, 'Why not?'

* Regarding the Apostle Paul, I believe that, as an Apostle of Christ, chosen by God, and instructed by the risen Christ, he is above reproach, and his word should not be called into question, just rightly divided.

Of course. Do not many, many people claim to be speaking on behalf of either Jesus or the Father? Look around at all these preachers on TV or YouTube saying "The Lord!" "The Lord!" when it is not of (or from) the Lord?​

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There is only one LOGOS (Word of God) which is the teachings of Jesus - the bread of the Eucharist (as explained in the Didache). And there is only one RHEMA (Word of God) the direct voice of the Father that speaks directly to you - the Holy Spirit.​

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I most certainly do not think that the author was speaking about Paul. Do you? There were certain prophecies that Paul attributed to himself, (might you know of these?) but I don't find that this was one of them.​

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Blessings,​

Rhema​

No, I believe that Deuteronomy 18:18-19, refers to the Lord Jesus Christ. He only is the subject of Old Testament Prophecy, whether directly or indirectly, by 'type' and 'shadow'.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Rxlx]

Hello @Rhema,

I was referring to the record that we have in Scripture. I do not consult anything other than the Bible: It contains the sum of all Divine revelation.

* The Bible is the plumb-line by which all teaching should be measured.

* I am not affiliated with any denomination, or body of believers, by whatever name they are known, or by whatever doctrine they are identified.

* Yes, I believe that the written word, rightly divided, is the only source of Divine truth, and that it is the responsibility of each one of us to search the Scriptures for ourselves to ensure that what we are imbibing, whether through teaching, or the literature we read. is true. Yes, every word is important, and accuracy is essential. Every traditionally held doctrine, whatever it is, should stand up to the scrutiny of Scripture. If not we must ask, 'Why not?'

* Regarding the Apostle Paul, I believe that, as an Apostle of Christ, chosen by God, and instructed by the risen Christ, he is above reproach, and his word should not be called into question, just rightly divided.


No, I believe that Deuteronomy 18:18-19, refers to the Lord Jesus Christ. He only is the subject of Old Testament Prophecy, whether directly or indirectly, by 'type' and 'shadow'.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Deuteronomy 18:18 merely refers to the next prophet - who was that? Not Jesus as he was 1400 years away.
I've written elsewhere that Rhema lacks the gifts of holy spirit - wisdom and knowledge - but pretends an ability to read old Greek is worth something.

 

[Rxlx]

The idotic muslims claims Deut 18:18 refers to Muhammed the Pedophile who was about 2000 years away and was about as evil as peson could be!

 

[Rhema]

You have added by taking away the law not to add or subtract from the last chapter of the book of law Revelation.

You have added by accepting the tradition and authority of the Roman Catholic church who claims that the book of Revelation is in the canon. It should not be. It was rejected by the Apostle Thomas for the canon of the Church of the East, the ONLY scriptural canon established by an Apostle.

BTW, one does not ADD by taking away. That's called subtraction.

Ah.. right. I forgot that I'm done with you because of these kinds of things.

Thank you for the reminder.

 

[Rhema]

I was referring to the record that we have in Scripture. I do not consult anything other than the Bible: It contains the sum of all Divine revelation.

Whose Bible? The one given to you by the Roman Catholic Church? And elevated to Deity by Martin Luther?

And which Old Testament? The one invented by the Masoretic Jews after the year 400 AD? The descendants of the Pharisees? Or the OT that Jesus used (called the Septuagint)? It's a shame that Christians actually have no clue about the origin of their "Divine Revelation."

* The Bible is the plumb-line by which all teaching should be measured.

Again, which Bible? However, where does the Bible say that it is the "plumb-line"? That doctrine conflicts with the teaching of Jesus here:

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.​

(John 16:13 KJV)

Your own Bible says that the Spirit of truth shall guide you, not the Bible. I'm confused, then, as to why you don't believe what your own Bible says.

* I am not affiliated with any denomination, or body of believers, by whatever name they are known, or by whatever doctrine they are identified.

Ahh... so then you have created your own Bible. You have decided your own canon. Am I mistaken in this? And if not you, then who? Who decided what books you are to believe?

* Yes, I believe that the written word, rightly divided, is the only source of Divine truth,

And since the Bible teaches no such thing as the "written word," you have created your own doctrines that have no scriptural support. Perhaps I am mistaken, though, and you can show me otherwise?

The Bible is not the Word of God because the Bible defines what the Word of God is (there are two of them), and it does not include itself in its own definition. This is why we hold that the Bible contains the Word of God (a record of both of them - LOGOS and RHEMA), but IS not the Word of God itself. This is an important distinction - one that leads to either life, or leads to death. One that leads to Truth, or leads to Heresy.

Is this, then, the Word of God or not?

For in the day that I brought your ancestors out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to them or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices.​

(Jeremiah 7:22 NRSV)

And what of this proclamation of the prophet?

How can you say, "We are wise, and the LAW (Bible-TORAH, etc.) of the LORD is with us," when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie?​

(Jeremiah 8:8 NRSV)

If the Bible itself says that it has been made into a lie by the scribes (the people who copy the text) then upon what basis can a claim be made that the Bible is "the only source of Divine truth"? While I acknowledge that the Statement of Faith of this website (and that of numerous churches and denominations) holds that the Bible is inerrant, that's rather troublesome given the facts. And we are still left with the question, "Which Bible?"

Might you also hold the belief that the Bible is inerrant then?

it is the responsibility of each one of us to search the Scriptures for ourselves to ensure that what we are imbibing, whether through teaching, or the literature we read. is true.

And yet I've already shown that the Bible itself does not support this view that YOU are responsible for ensuring what is true or not. Allow me to repeat, then:

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.​

(John 16:13 KJV)

In light of this scripture, how can you then claim that YOU are to guide yourself into all truth? That just doesn't make sense to me.

Yes, every word is important, and accuracy is essential.

And yet, we have physical evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls that proves there were numerous versions of the OT that do not agree with one another during the time of Christ. There was no accuracy.

All the evidence we possess points to textual pluralism in the Second Temple era, as opposed to the notion of a single sacred consonantal text as later conceived.​

- Cohen, Menachem (1979). "The idea of the sanctity of the biblical text and the science of textual criticism". LINK​

The article is well worth the read, as it only pertains to the Hebrew Bible, and dispels this Christian myth that there was only one sanctified collection of OT scripture where "every word is important, and accuracy is essential." However, the only manuscripts that preserve any measure of accuracy for the OT text would be the Septuagint.

I provide a LINK to my other post instead of repeating myself here.

* Regarding the Apostle Paul, I believe that, as an Apostle of Christ, chosen by God, and instructed by the risen Christ, he is above reproach, and his word should not be called into question, just rightly divided.

And yet, Paul's "My Gospel" contradicts the Gospel that Jesus taught. But if one decides that Paul is inerrant like the Pope, then why even discuss anything? The four Gospel books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were written after the epistles of Paul, and yet there is nothing mentioned within them that gives any indication that the Twelve were to teach something different or in addition to what Jesus taught. Jesus did not say, "HEY!! Wait until I give this guy Paul special direct Revelation of a new Gospel, and then go spread that."

Belief should be informed by facts, instead of facts being rejected because of religious emotion and tradition.

As I've said, Religious Emotion is what created the Religious Fiction of what is commonly understood as Hell.

You've been able to divest yourself of that fiction, but might there be more?

No, I believe that Deuteronomy 18:18-19, refers to the Lord Jesus Christ. He only is the subject of Old Testament Prophecy,

Hmm... yet Paul attributed the prophecy of Isaiah 66:19 to himself. That's what caused the riot in Acts 22.

Then he said to me, 'Go, for I will send you far away to the Gentiles.'" Up to this point they listened to him, but then they shouted, "Away with such a fellow from the earth! For he should not be allowed to live."​

(Acts 22:21-22 NRSV)

If the writings of Paul are deified and unable to be questioned, then Paul has supplanted the teachings of Jesus, and indeed, Jesus has been dispensed with.

The only honest path of integrity is to apply the teachings of Jesus to any and ALL words penned by others no matter who. One should not make Paul into an infallible Pope. (Should we?)

The peace and truth of Jesus,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Deuteronomy 18:18 merely refers to the next prophet - who was that? Not Jesus

And you continue to deny Christ before men.

Astonishing.

 

[th1bill]

hello Chris. Rhema is on ignore with me because of his persistent attacks on the Gospel and my belief in them. He/she will never accept the truth of Holy Scripture and that is sad but such is the reason so many with live eternally in the Lake of Fire.

Speaking Texan: I are a Baptist because they aline as closely to the Scriptures that I can find. Our Church Family departed the SBC last year because of the extent of the Liberal influence on the Leadership that is seated. I am, like yourself, a Christian because of the second birth and except for Family Ties need not negative influences.

 

[Rhema]

Rhema is on ignore with me because of his persistent attacks on the Gospel and my belief in them.

I do not attack the Gospel of Jesus Christ, sir. You do me a grave injustice with this lie. And as far as your belief goes, you may believe in the flying spaghetti monster for all I care. You impute attacks where there are none, and then become offended by your own misapprehensions.

My persistence is in demanding that you, or any other supposed believer, express exactly what YOU mean by the Gospel. As for me, I have no trouble nor concerns whatsoever in proclaiming the actual Gospel of Jesus Christ. It's rather simple:

Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,​

(Mark 1:14 KJV)

Axiom: If Jesus came preaching the Gospel, then the Gospel is what Jesus PREACHED, nothing else. It can't be made more simple than that truth. What I find though, is that people reject the Gospel that Jesus preached and instead preach a different Gospel. A Gospel invented by the religious exuberance of the human mind.

So I rather think that instead of ignoring me, you really want to ignore the fact that what you believe is not the Gospel that Jesus preached.

And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.​

(Mark 1:15 KJV)

Jesus obviously wasn't running around saying, "believe the gospel that this guy Paul preaches." Paul wasn't there. And Jesus was not the one who was to make the paths straight for Paul. It was John tB who was sent as the messenger to prepare the way before the Lord Jesus.

As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.​

(Mark 1:2-4 KJV)

I merely ask those who name the name of Christ, then, to actually do so, and Preach the GOSPEL that Jesus preached. Nothing more. Anything more than the words of Jesus is an adulteration of the teachings of the Son of God with their own human ideas and doctrines added on, whether it be the Pope's opinion, Paul's opinion, or your opinion.

Hundreds of Thousands cry out daily, "The Lord says," "The Lord says," when in truth it was just their own meager human imaginations, as the Lord said nothing to them. And the Lord need say nothing more to them because the Son of God was sent to preach the Gospel and what HE said is sufficient unto salvation. All we need do is declare the exact same teaching that Christ gave to the Twelve:

And we are commanded to do this:

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. GO ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I {Jesus} have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.​

(Matthew 28:18-20 KJV)

Why would you do anything different?

He/she will never accept the truth of Holy Scripture and that is sad but such is the reason so many with live eternally in the Lake of Fire.

And I believe the exact same for you, brother. The differences is that I know what Jesus taught as the Gospel - REPENT, asking the Father for your sins to be forgiven, as you forgive others as well. You can take your "Holy Scriptures" and encrust them in silver, gold and coloured gemstones, spraying perfume and incense all over them, but you need to read them and learn what they say.

But of course you think you do. And so get offended when shown that what you believe wasn't what was actually taught.

What needs to be rightly divided is the very words of Jesus teachings - divided against all else which is paultry commentary that is usually wrong.

Speaking Texan: I are a Baptist because they aline as closely to the Scriptures that I can find.

Then look harder. Seek further. You have not yet found the simplicity - the easy yoke to know thereby that your salvation lies in the very words of Christ as written reliably in the books of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. Since you have adopted the entirety of the Roman Catholic New Testament as your authority, you have added things to the very words of Christ. Things that alter the meaning of what Jesus taught.

Our Church Family departed the SBC last year because of the extent of the Liberal influence on the Leadership that is seated.

If you seek commendation, then pat yourself on the back. But I doubt that you are as conservative as I, to reject all scripture that claims to speak for the Lord yet cannot be found in the LOGOS of God. In saying that you know Jesus is the LOGOS of God, it truly means that Paul is NOT the LOGOS of God. Why depart the pure message of the Gospel as taught in the words of Christ to add in the words of others?

I am, like yourself, a Christian because of the second birth

Indeed, the goal of embracing the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ is that we to be born from the beginning (not from the middle, by building one's house on the sands of Judaism.)

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? {Jesus, not Moses, not even Paul}​

(Luke 6:46 KJV)

Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.​

(Luke 6:47-49 KJV)

and except for Family Ties need not negative influences.

Who is my family? Who is my brother and mother and sisters?

But I stand astonished that my exhortation to believers that they embrace only the teachings of Jesus forsaking all others is considered by you to be a negative influence.

Why would you deny Christ before men? Why would you preach to men words that are not found in the teachings of Jesus?

Believe (and do) the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

Rhema

(But be very sure they ARE the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ, and not someone else.)

 

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Whose Bible? The one given to you by the Roman Catholic Church? And elevated to Deity by Martin Luther?

And which Old Testament? The one invented by the Masoretic Jews after the year 400 AD? The descendants of the Pharisees? Or the OT that Jesus used (called the Septuagint)? It's a shame that Christians actually have no clue about the origin of their "Divine Revelation."


Again, which Bible? However, where does the Bible say that it is the "plumb-line"? That doctrine conflicts with the teaching of Jesus here:

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.​

(John 16:13 KJV)

Your own Bible says that the Spirit of truth shall guide you, not the Bible. I'm confused, then, as to why you don't believe what your own Bible says.


Ahh... so then you have created your own Bible. You have decided your own canon. Am I mistaken in this? And if not you, then who? Who decided what books you are to believe?


And since the Bible teaches no such thing as the "written word," you have created your own doctrines that have no scriptural support. Perhaps I am mistaken, though, and you can show me otherwise?

The Bible is not the Word of God because the Bible defines what the Word of God is (there are two of them), and it does not include itself in its own definition. This is why we hold that the Bible contains the Word of God (a record of both of them - LOGOS and RHEMA), but IS not the Word of God itself. This is an important distinction - one that leads to either life, or leads to death. One that leads to Truth, or leads to Heresy.

Is this, then, the Word of God or not?

For in the day that I brought your ancestors out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to them or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices.​

(Jeremiah 7:22 NRSV)

And what of this proclamation of the prophet?

How can you say, "We are wise, and the LAW (Bible-TORAH, etc.) of the LORD is with us," when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie?​

(Jeremiah 8:8 NRSV)

If the Bible itself says that it has been made into a lie by the scribes (the people who copy the text) then upon what basis can a claim be made that the Bible is "the only source of Divine truth"? While I acknowledge that the Statement of Faith of this website (and that of numerous churches and denominations) holds that the Bible is inerrant, that's rather troublesome given the facts. And we are still left with the question, "Which Bible?"

Might you also hold the belief that the Bible is inerrant then?


And yet I've already shown that the Bible itself does not support this view that YOU are responsible for ensuring what is true or not. Allow me to repeat, then:

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.​

(John 16:13 KJV)

In light of this scripture, how can you then claim that YOU are to guide yourself into all truth? That just doesn't make sense to me.


And yet, we have physical evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls that proves there were numerous versions of the OT that do not agree with one another during the time of Christ. There was no accuracy.

All the evidence we possess points to textual pluralism in the Second Temple era, as opposed to the notion of a single sacred consonantal text as later conceived.​

- Cohen, Menachem (1979). "The idea of the sanctity of the biblical text and the science of textual criticism". LINK​

The article is well worth the read, as it only pertains to the Hebrew Bible, and dispels this Christian myth that there was only one sanctified collection of OT scripture where "every word is important, and accuracy is essential." However, the only manuscripts that preserve any measure of accuracy for the OT text would be the Septuagint.

I provide a LINK to my other post instead of repeating myself here.


And yet, Paul's "My Gospel" contradicts the Gospel that Jesus taught. But if one decides that Paul is inerrant like the Pope, then why even discuss anything? The four Gospel books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were written after the epistles of Paul, and yet there is nothing mentioned within them that gives any indication that the Twelve were to teach something different or in addition to what Jesus taught. Jesus did not say, "HEY!! Wait until I give this guy Paul special direct Revelation of a new Gospel, and then go spread that."

Belief should be informed by facts, instead of facts being rejected because of religious emotion and tradition.

As I've said, Religious Emotion is what created the Religious Fiction of what is commonly understood as Hell.

You've been able to divest yourself of that fiction, but might there be more?


Hmm... yet Paul attributed the prophecy of Isaiah 66:19 to himself. That's what caused the riot in Acts 22.

Then he said to me, 'Go, for I will send you far away to the Gentiles.'" Up to this point they listened to him, but then they shouted, "Away with such a fellow from the earth! For he should not be allowed to live."​

(Acts 22:21-22 NRSV)

If the writings of Paul are deified and unable to be questioned, then Paul has supplanted the teachings of Jesus, and indeed, Jesus has been dispensed with.

The only honest path of integrity is to apply the teachings of Jesus to any and ALL words penned by others no matter who. One should not make Paul into an infallible Pope. (Should we?)

The peace and truth of Jesus,
Rhema

Hello @Rhema,

You are talking to the wrong person.

I have no more to say to you.

Goodbye

 

[Garee]

You have added by accepting the tradition and authority of the Roman Catholic church who claims that the book of Revelation is in the canon. It should not be. It was rejected by the Apostle Thomas for the canon of the Church of the East, the ONLY scriptural canon established by an Apostle.

Every word is established by its one author. . words make up cannon.

The ONLY scriptural canon established is by the one author of our new born again powerful faith, is Christ in us (unseen eternal things)

You as it seems simply destroy the word apostle. (Sent messenger) Violating the warning needed to protect the entirety of one author (sola scriptura) from spiritual plagiarism.

Change the meaning one word it can change all of the commandments under new spirit headship. The father of lies. Violating the first commandment have no other gods as patron saints in the likeness of male and female a legion of disembodied spirit guides having them before Christ the husband

Deuteronomy 4:2Ye shall not add unto the word (singular apostle) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,(singular apostle) that ye may keep the commandments (plural sola scriptura) of the Lord your God which I command you.

Apostle. . Sent messenger (errand boy, UPS, Fed X, Pony Express, Uber, Amazon, Carier Pigeon, smoke signals) .

Making the sent ones the ones with the beautiful feet as if sent with their own words. Puffing up venerating the apostles above sola scriptura

1 Corinthians4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure (parable) transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men(apostles) above that which is written, (sola scriptura) that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

Have you received it (Sola scriptura)?

It is why when written by the finger of Christ on Mount Sinah he wrote on both sides, no room for the oral tradition of dying mankind after Apostle Thomas.

No queen mother of heaven named after or blessed by the mercy and Grace of our Holy Father in heaven sister the goal of venerating apostles .

The one Holy Father eternal God not seen lovingly commands us to call no man Holy Father of earth.

Exodus 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.

There really is no difference between the Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox the same as the Pharisees with Sadducees who put their differences aside to try and make all things written in the law and prophets sola scriptura with effect

Revealing that sought after lying signs to wonder, wonder, marvel after as if true prophecy rather than sola scriptura true prophecy)

Matthew 16:1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.

They made Jesus the Son of man into a circus seal .Do a trick work some miracle then when see it with our own eyes we will believe for a micro second

John 4:48Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

2 Thessioinls9-11 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth,(sola scriptura) that they might be saved.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, (like the so called Fatima miracle of the Sun .blinded by its light they should of used dark sun glasses ) that they should believe a lie:

There simply is no defense against sola scriptura the armor of God. Put it on an keep it on. Then the queen mother disappears

 

[Brightfame52]

God sovereignly before the foundation chose who would go to hell and who would go to heaven. Those whom He chose for eternal life had their names written in the lambs book of life slain from the foundation Rev 13:8 and the ones not written before the foundation, God had chose them for hell for their sins Rev 17:8

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 20:15

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

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hello Chris.

Speaking Texan: I are a Baptist because they aline as closely to the Scriptures that I can find. Our Church Family departed the SBC last year because of the extent of the Liberal influence on the Leadership that is seated. I am, like yourself, a Christian because of the second birth and except for Family Ties need not negative influences.

'So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption,
and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
Death is swallowed up in victory.'
(1Co 15:54)

Hello @th1bill,

Thank you for responding.

I am grateful for the grace of God and for His faithfulness, and the knowledge that the work that He has begun in me, He will continue to do until the day of Christ. That He has forgiven me for all my sin, and cleansed me from all unrighteousness, and has given me the hope of eternal life, in Christ Jesus, my risen and glorified, Saviour, Lord and Head.

May His Name be praised!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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'And the sea gave up the dead which were in it;
and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:
and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the second death.'
(Rev.20:13-14)

 

[Garee]

BTW, one does not ADD by taking away. That's called subtraction.

It takes away from the whole, perfect.

 

[Garee]

Oh Garee, Garee, Garee, what shall I do with thee?

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish (subrtract) ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.​

- Deuteronomy 4:2 KJV



God bless,
Rhema

You seem confused. you are the one that loves to add subtracting the true meaning of one word

Define the word apostle? Is Jesus the Son of man an apostle or what some say an angel?