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Am I a reprobate?

stanshall

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I am nearing 65 & have been to different denominations during my life. I’ve been baptized over a few times & have remained the same old creature. I’ve gone through these sin cycles of drugs & other things which would have sent me to hell the second of my passing.
I don’t think I am reprobate but I have willingly sinned, especially during those drug cycles. Thus far I’ve quit smoking and do not partake of drugs.
At this late stage in my life, have I already crossed the boundary line of non salvation mentioned in Hebrews?
 
Hi!
Thank you for your reply. I have been to Pentecostal- Baptist-Church of Christ- Assembly of God - Methodist (one time)…churches during my life and have concluded there are truths shared but many false doctrines that Paul discusses in Galatians. Most offer a watered down Gospel to make their congregations feel comfortable than telling the full truth. The biblical Jesus has become the accepted American Jesus who only loves…meaning many are ignorant and only listen to what their false preachers say. They think they are saved but are not born again. I want the real Jesus!
 
I want the real Jesus!
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.​
- Acts 2:38 KJV

Seek this gift. And keep seeking.


In the meantime...

Most offer a watered down Gospel to make their congregations feel comfortable than telling the full truth.
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,​
- Mark 1:14 KJV

If Jesus came preaching the Gospel, then the Gospel is what Jesus preached (and none other).

God bless,
Rhema
 
I guess I wondered about being a reprobate because I’ve never experienced His touch during my life. I once drove to a so called faith healer for that purpose and felt nothing. Went to a Pentecostal church with several people talking in tongues around me feeling nothing. Got baptized at a Pentecostal church and immediately was ordered to talk in tongues! I couldn’t!
In Scripture the blind man states God does not listen to the prayers of the non righteous. I live alone, have one phone friend who is genuine, and even though I quit smoking 3 weeks ago I know Im dying from emphysema. I am a fool no doubt and have learned to selfishly love myself above God and also despise myself living with the guilt afterward.
I expect no answers to my present non spiritual existence. Few will shed tears when I die. I am a poor nobody. I deserve hell even though it scares me thinking about it. Peter states the saints will be “scarcely saved” so I know I’m not a saint.
Anyhoot, thanks for your encouraging words and sparing a moment to listen to a babbling old man. May God be with you in every way in blessings. Goodbye.
 
Got baptized at a Pentecostal church and immediately was ordered to talk in tongues! I couldn’t!
Count yourself fortunate -

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.​
- Acts 2:4 KJV

Most all Pentecostals / Charismatics seem unable to read this simple truth - that the SPIRIT is to give you utterance. You don't. But that doesn't mean the experience isn't real. It is. But finding someone who both walks in power and understands the operations of this baptism is extremely rare. The drive within a human "to belong" is so overwhelming as to make so many, many people fool themselves into believing all kinds of doctrines - no matter the denomination.

I guess I wondered about being a reprobate because I’ve never experienced His touch during my life.
Then I'm sorry to say that it probably hasn't happened, because once it does, you'll KNOW. Yet even then the spirit of doubt will continue to attack you. That's why we are to encourage one another.

In Scripture the blind man states God does not listen to the prayers of the non righteous.
Why would I believe a blind man?

The prayers that God hears are those of the non-righteous who repent.

Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.​
- Luke 18:10-14 KJV

Faith in Jesus means to believe what Jesus said, none other. God certainly heard the prayer of the non-righteous publican.

I live alone, have one phone friend who is genuine, and even though I quit smoking 3 weeks ago I know Im dying from emphysema.
I am sorry to hear that. And I am sorry that the lack of faith here on the Earth means that there may be no one around to lay hands on you and heal you. But I have seen mighty divine healings of many ailments and diseases, and have been blessed on more than one occasion with being healed of fatal medical conditions, the most recent being in 2021. And I have also been blessed to be the instrument of such healing for others (as the Spirit has led), including a fellow through whom my touch raised him from the dead.

The problem is that there is so much NOISE from the loudmouth opinionators who are so proud to be called pastors and wish to judge others, that the still small voice of the truth of God is overwhelmingly drowned out.

And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith.​
- Luke 17:5 KJV

I've only met one so called "faith healer" who traveled the church circuit of what is known as "Word of Faith" churches. And I've only ever attended one of his meetings - where my Father-in-Law (who was not a Christian) on his own initiative went up front in simple faith and was cured of colon cancer (we hadn't even known he was diagnosed) - and where in the exact same meeting I took my brother-in-law upfront where he was cured of diabetes. As to the rest of those who "went front" I couldn't say. But we made my Father-in-law get a second opinion, and I had the wonderful experience of listening to the heads of GI Surgery from two local hospitals screaming at each other over the phone:
"He has cancer and needs surgery (bowel resection)."​
"NO he doesn't."​
"I have pictures."​
"SO DO I."​
Since there was no way to tell these doctors that both were right, I just sat there smiling like an idiot.

But I know that YOU need this reality in your life. That's why I said seek, and keep on seeking until you drop dead. You can't give up. Ever.

I am a fool no doubt and have learned to selfishly love myself above God and also despise myself living with the guilt afterward.
No doubt we are all fools at some point, but why would you be a fool to love yourself if God ALSO loves you? Would that mean God is a fool?

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.​
- Mark 12:29-31 KJV

If you do not love yourself, then how could you love your neighbor? The "trick" is to do both. And this can be done with the help of the Holy Spirit. (Keep seeking.)

And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint {don't give up}; Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man: And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary. And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man; Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me. And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith. And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?​
- Luke 18:1-8 KJV

Again, I am sorry that there seems to be no faith on the earth where you reside, though there be ten thousand churches.

I expect no answers to my present non spiritual existence.
And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou Son of David, have mercy on us. And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.​
- Matthew 9:27-29 KJV

Not many people know that "faith" means "expectation." When I say "Have Faith," I truly mean "Have Expectation." In August of 2021 I had about six weeks to live. So God and I had a "Come to Jesus" meeting, and I told Him off. Three days later I was healed.

You may not expect answers. But I do. And not only expect, but demand.

Few will shed tears when I die. I am a poor nobody. I deserve hell even though it scares me thinking about it.
God will. And He considers no man a poor nobody (that would be a respecter of persons, cf Act 10:34). Nor does anyone deserve hell. The idiots hawk John 3:16 when the next verse is truly more important.

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.​
- John 3:17 KJV

For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.​
- Luke 19:10 KJV

I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
- John 12:46-47 KJV

Can you let yourself be saved? (There's nothing wrong with that.) And if so, I will ask my Father to save you, and there would then be nothing you could do to stop that.

I hope not.

Rhema
 
Well…
Let me just say Thank You! You are truly a child of God, no doubt in my mind!
It’s early AM and I awoke from a rather hellish nightmare, something I haven’t had in a while. My thoughts are hazy now about it, my memory not always great since a child and now I read God’s words through your message and it makes me feel ashamed for feeling like giving up on myself like I’ve done.
My best friend is a Pentecostal lady who is my age, 64 and I love her for being sweet, honest & imperfect. We’ve met over a 4 year time span and never dated. She has faced many tribulations: breast cancer, being evicted, loss of 2 brothers, being emotionally abused 35 years by a fake Christian ex husband…and she loves God with all of her heart to this day. We could never get married because we’re both divorced and her ex is still alive and I don’t know if my ex wife is alive either.
I come from a background of being extremely shy and lonely and virtually friendless, so I adapted somehow to being alone without losing my sanity.
The only real persons I loved were my parents who died horribly & unjustly in their old age by being used by my other 3 siblings who I doubt could care less about Jesus Christ. But who am I to judge, I’ve said & done things that probably will come back to haunt me.
This morning I’m going to a small Pentecostal church outside of town that my friend recommended and I have to honestly thank you for giving me your spiritual advice to motivate me to go, instead of moping alone all day.
Wow! I can’t thank you enough for your kindness and concerns. I wish you and your family all of God’s blessings.
Have a blessed day!
 
Most all Pentecostals / Charismatics seem unable to read this simple truth - that the SPIRIT is to give you utterance. You don't. But that doesn't mean the experience isn't real. It is. But finding someone who both walks in power and understands the operations of this baptism is extremely rare. The drive within a human "to belong" is so overwhelming as to make so many, many people fool themselves into believing all kinds of doctrines - no matter the denomination.

Amen.

No such thing as sign gifts (I did it, it proves it)

We are washed by the water of the word. The washing and renewing of Holy Spirit of Christ the husband. Not the water (H20)used to represent the Spirit in parables.

It can be seen when first used with Aarons two sons they added to water. . strange fire.

Water is used to represent the Spirit the two violating the warning not to add or subtract calling it strange fire (I did it, it proved it)

The fire or judgment of Christ consumed them not a hint of smoke on the ceremonial Priestly attire.

Ceremonial shadows were a sign to the unbelieving world. Believers have prophecy. No need to wonder after signs

Not a Pentecostal signs and wonders gospel.
 
Dear brother You are a new creature God has freed you from drugs praise the Lord !! He has done the same for me. You are clearly humble and I see your repentance in your post praise the Lord ! We don't meet God until we are broken most of the time is my thought !! and it is never to late for God almighty to save us !! and it looks to me you are born again ! It's not about feelings and emotions those things can deceive us quickly. Thanks you for sharing, I pray for your peace
 
Wow! I can’t thank you enough for your kindness and concerns. I wish you and your family all of God’s blessings.
Have a blessed day!
You are quite welcome, but again, we are still to continue to encourage one another. It's no big deal, as we are all a work of Christ at some point along the way.

But don't let guilt feelings drag you down once again. I thank you for sharing, but very few of us escape the ravages of sin that has plagued this world. Part of the reason to encourage one another is that your story is pretty common to all men. Whether as "Body of Christ" or a Brotherhood, I hope you had a meaningful and blessed day.

It's okay to feel okay.

May God continue to bless,
Rhema
 
No such thing as sign gifts (I did it, it proves it)
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;​
- Mark 16:15-17 KJV

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:​
- Acts 2:22 KJV

But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.​
- John 10:38 KJV

How long will you reject scripture, Garee, and believe in your own religious fiction?

And that was most definitely a rhetorical question. I would ask you leave this thread alone. There is nothing more you can say to me.

Rhema
 
@Rhema @Garee
If you can't keep the focus on helping this brother, and must discuss other topics, then please move it to a Private Message, or create another thread for it.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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[COLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.7)]At this late stage in my life, have I already crossed the boundary line of non salvation mentioned in Hebrews?[/COLOR]
I think of the Thief on the cross and Saul of Tarsus ... That's for Christ the Redeemer to decide, so keep turning towards His mercy and grace, brother. You have God's support and ours. :) Peace.
 
I am nearing 65 & have been to different denominations during my life. I’ve been baptized over a few times & have remained the same old creature. I’ve gone through these sin cycles of drugs & other things which would have sent me to hell the second of my passing. I don’t think I am reprobate but I have willingly sinned, especially during those drug cycles. Thus far I’ve quit smoking and do not partake of drugs.

God is not a fool. If you go to hell it is not because you used drugs. Drugs are a sympton of not being close to God. A love of sin is the only thing that would keep you from God and that is what God will judge us for.

John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

At this late stage in my life, have I already crossed the boundary line of non salvation mentioned in Hebrews?

If you are dead and in Hades, you have crossed the line. If not, you still have hope.

Praying for you bud. Never too late to repent of our sins and make right with God!!

Psalm 51:17 My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.
 
I guess I wondered about being a reprobate because I’ve never experienced His touch during my life. I once drove to a so called faith healer for that purpose and felt nothing. Went to a Pentecostal church with several people talking in tongues around me feeling nothing. Got baptized at a Pentecostal church and immediately was ordered to talk in tongues! I couldn’t!

Many Christians like this are Matt 7:22 Christians. God is not a clown that dances for us or cares about sensations we feel.

Matt 7:22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?

Matt 7:23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


In Scripture the blind man states God does not listen to the prayers of the non righteous. I live alone, have one phone friend who is genuine, and even though I quit smoking 3 weeks ago I know Im dying from emphysema. I am a fool no doubt and have learned to selfishly love myself above God and also despise myself living with the guilt afterward. I expect no answers to my present non spiritual existence. Few will shed tears when I die. I am a poor nobody. I deserve hell even though it scares me thinking about it. Peter states the saints will be “scarcely saved” so I know I’m not a saint.

Paul doesn't refer to us 'saints'. He says the 'righteous' are scarcely saved. If you are grafted into the family of God, you cannot lose your seat.

But getting grafted into the family of God requires a true dedication from us, as explained in the OP's here:



Anyhoot, thanks for your encouraging words and sparing a moment to listen to a babbling old man. May God be with you in every way in blessings. Goodbye.

Repent of your sins, make right with God and start doing some youtube video responses to that false teaching 'Gino' guy ;) .

The worse thing about getting to heaven will be having no servitude to show to God. God and your dead ancestors may be the only people waiting to greet you.
 
Well…
Let me just say Thank You! You are truly a child of God, no doubt in my mind!
It’s early AM and I awoke from a rather hellish nightmare, something I haven’t had in a while. My thoughts are hazy now about it, my memory not always great since a child and now I read God’s words through your message and it makes me feel ashamed for feeling like giving up on myself like I’ve done.

I would offer.

Christ is not the author of shame. Satan the accuser of the believer is the shamer. . day and night every time we doubt in making a decision for Christ.

God is no longer bringing any new prophecies to include night dreams or daydreams. Dream can heal our psych. But again, they are not prophecy We only cam remember them if we wake up.

I would offer it would seem God is turning you to repent which means to comfort after comforting then you can bear the lightened load and return

To repent a twofold work of Christ first he turns us to hear him

Jeremiah 31:18-19 ;I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the Lord my God.Surely after that I was turned,(Bause of his turning power )I repented; and after that I was instructed, I (comforted or turned) smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.

Learning to put away childish things that we can return to our first love. hearing the gospel empowered by God to believe and do his good will.

Revelation 2:4-6 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.(trust God) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works;(trust God) or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.;But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, (not trusting God trusting men)which I also hate.

The nightmares (not prophecy" will vanish. Can't serve two teaching masters
 
Paul doesn't refer to us 'saints'. He says the 'righteous' are scarcely saved.
I think you mean Peter:

And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?​
- 1 Peter 4:18 KJV

(Just sayin')

Since Paul does refer to "saints" nearly forty times.

Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:​
- Colossians 1:25-27 KJV
 
I am nearing 65 & have been to different denominations during my life. I’ve been baptized over a few times & have remained the same old creature. I’ve gone through these sin cycles of drugs & other things which would have sent me to hell the second of my passing.
I don’t think I am reprobate but I have willingly sinned, especially during those drug cycles. Thus far I’ve quit smoking and do not partake of drugs.
At this late stage in my life, have I already crossed the boundary line of non salvation mentioned in Hebrews?
Dear @stanshall
I saw this and thought of you.


With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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