If we know Christmas is Pagan, why still Celebrate it?

[Gerbolski]

Hmm I don't understand exactly what your trying to do.. put in context? Mean like when Satan told Eve That Abba don't mean what He says kinda thing is that what ya trying to do? Is saying God don't mean what He says..

I'm really shocked at how many hate the fact that people celebrate the Gift that Abba besties upon us .

But I will keep Listening to the Lord and Allow man to keep telling me what they think lol

Hope all's well!!

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Put in context means put in context.

It means what is Colossians talking about, and it is talking about the laws given to Moses, it is not talking about Christmas, but you in your comment made it say ,what it does not say.

 

[Twistie]

Put in context means put in context.

It means what is Colossians talking about, and it is talking about the laws given to Moses, it is not talking about Christmas, but you in your comment made it say ,what it does not say.

Go spend time with the Lord stop listening to man..stop leaning on your ways allow Him to Lead n stop telling people wat the Lord means He's not a mute He can Speak He's not n idiot I mean the Holy Spirit can't talk to all His children in all languages perhaps you need to try n listen for Him instead of trying to tell others wat He means.. I'm j.s.

Don't mean to sound mean or rude just I'm appalled at what people are doing with the Word of God at this moment.. To was told something very disturbing that the false witnesses n teachers are now spreading..

Seek the Lord while He can Still be found n let not your heart harden when you hear Him like the people of old in the wilderness..

Hope all's well

Only one who says God doesn't mean what He says is satan in j.s.

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[Gerbolski]

Twistie you are not listening at all.

Here is what it says:


Deu 31:24
(24) And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,


Deu 31:26
(26) Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

Col 2:14
(14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Col 2:16-17
(16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
(17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

You can read, were does it say Christmas in any of these words ?

And Colossians 2:14, goes along with Colossians 2:16-17, the words that it speaks of is: "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us".

What were those handwritten ordinances that was against them, it says it in Deuteronomy, "Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book", which these laws were a "witness against them", because they had a hard time obeying them, and it was the laws given to Moses by God that were part of the book of the law, and Christmas was not one of those laws.

If you think that is heresy than take it up with God, because that is what it is talking about, I added nothing to it, nor took anything away from it.

And to take these verses and use it to point to Christmas is adding to the word, for it should not be used in the issue of Christmas.

Other verses can be used after a certain way, but not these verses.

 

[Twistie]

Twistie you are not listening at all.

Here is what it says:


Deu 31:24
(24) And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,


Deu 31:26
(26) Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

Col 2:14
(14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Col 2:16-17
(16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
(17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

You can read, were does it say Christmas in any of these words ?

And Colossians 2:14, goes along with Colossians 2:16-17, the words that it speaks of is: "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us".

What were those handwritten ordinances that was against them, it says it in Deuteronomy, "Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book", which these laws were a "witness against them", because they had a hard time obeying them, and it was the laws given to Moses by God that were part of the book of the law, and Christmas was not one of those laws.

If you think that is heresy than take it up with God, because that is what it is talking about, I added nothing to it, nor took anything away from it.

And to take these verses and use it to point to Christmas is adding to the word, for it should not be used in the issue of Christmas.

Other verses can be used after a certain way, but not these verses.

No doubt but ye are the people, and wisdom shall die with you. But I have understanding as well as you; I am not inferior to you: yea, who knoweth not such things as these?".

What ye know, the same do I know also: I am not inferior unto you".

You really must be full of pride or yourself n ya r right I am not listening to you you r not my god how arrogant and prideful you must be..

Seek the Lord while He can be found..

Satan really busy trying to wear out the Lord's people..seem he just can't comprehend that the Lords people are truly taught by the Lord.
All satan can do is repeat like a parrot he can't grow at all..

Hope all well

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[Twistie]

Twistie you are not listening at all.

Here is what it says:


Deu 31:24
(24) And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,


Deu 31:26
(26) Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

Col 2:14
(14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Col 2:16-17
(16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
(17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

You can read, were does it say Christmas in any of these words ?

And Colossians 2:14, goes along with Colossians 2:16-17, the words that it speaks of is: "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us".

What were those handwritten ordinances that was against them, it says it in Deuteronomy, "Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book", which these laws were a "witness against them", because they had a hard time obeying them, and it was the laws given to Moses by God that were part of the book of the law, and Christmas was not one of those laws.

If you think that is heresy than take it up with God, because that is what it is talking about, I added nothing to it, nor took anything away from it.

And to take these verses and use it to point to Christmas is adding to the word, for it should not be used in the issue of Christmas.

Other verses can be used after a certain way, but not these verses

Twistie you are not listening at all.

Here is what it says:


Deu 31:24
(24) And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,


Deu 31:26
(26) Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

Col 2:14
(14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Col 2:16-17
(16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
(17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

You can read, were does it say Christmas in any of these words ?

And Colossians 2:14, goes along with Colossians 2:16-17, the words that it speaks of is: "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us".

What were those handwritten ordinances that was against them, it says it in Deuteronomy, "Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book", which these laws were a "witness against them", because they had a hard time obeying them, and it was the laws given to Moses by God that were part of the book of the law, and Christmas was not one of those laws.

If you think that is heresy than take it up with God, because that is what it is talking about, I added nothing to it, nor took anything away from it.

And to take these verses and use it to point to Christmas is adding to the word, for it should not be used in the issue of Christmas.

Other verses can be used after a certain way, but not these verses.

One question if I did listen to you n not the Lord are you gonna make sure I eat everyday? I mean actually provide the food for us I mean if ya wanna be a god.. will you make sure my pup has food? See we are unable to work for the world we are not well enough.. so I need to know if I do listen n follow your way will you provide for us .. food electric shelter ya know basic needs

Cause the Lord provides all for us so I wanna see what you can do¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

Ok let me know

Smh

Hope all's well

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[BroTan]

According to your logic, Jesus never went to the bathroom, because it doesnt say it in scripture. And of course we celebrate His death, just another example of you finding fault just for the sake of feeling more self righteous.

The book says in 1 John 2: 5 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. And so this is what happens when one participate in the paganism of Christmas that's in the world, because they've seen other people do it, and most people know that is not written in the Bible to do. Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all men. These are sayings associated with this pagan Christmas Holiday. But Jesus says in Matthew 10: 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

 

[Twistie]

The book says in 1 John 2: 5 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. And so this is what happens when one participate in the paganism of Christmas that's in the world, because they've seen other people do it, and most people know that is not written in the Bible to do. Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all men. These are sayings associated with this pagan Christmas Holiday. But Jesus says in Matthew 10: 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

So the Messiah is a thing to you? huh most interesting...

Hope all's well

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[Twistie]

Still can't figure out why some so hateful towards the idea that the Messiah was born . Most interesting with the reasons they come up with tho.. personally I think Satan is hateful at that fact that the Lords children are gonna celebrate Him every day n even more will on What man deemed His birth.

Can't imagine how enraged he is during the Lord's resurrection celebration day lol

I can understand why satan is upset frfr lol
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[Gerbolski]

In the end, God will fix everything, nothing pagan will be left, when Christ fixes everything at the millennial reign.

No mixtures, no calling the birth of Jesus, what the bible does not call it.

Even the Roman calendar will be no more.

Exo 23:13
(13) And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.

It says make no mention of other gods, and of course the bible does mention the names of other Gods, even God did , but in a negative way, never in a positive way.

When a name of another god is mentioned, it should be mentioned in a negative way, or in exposing this other god as a false god, such as the false gods of Hinduism, the false god of the Muslims and so on.

Isa 66:23
(23) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Zec 14:17-18
(17) And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
(18) And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

It seems that actual feast days that God has established, will come back in the millennial reign.

 

[BroTan]

So the Messiah is a thing to you? huh most interesting...

Hope all's well

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In the scriptures it's written Proverbs 17: 24 Wisdom is before him that hath understanding; But the eyes of a fool are in the ends of the earth.

 

[BroTan]

Let's look at some of the absurd things applied to the day that man has set for the birthday of the Son of God, Jesus the Christ, our Savior. Santa Clause, Ole Saint Nick, that jolly old fat man that lives in the North Pole, runs a workshop with Elves (little people) and ride on a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer. He is reported to deliver gifts to all good children around the world on Christmas, beginning at midnight and being done before morning. Entering houses by landing his sleigh on the rooftops and descending down the chimney with his bag of toys on his back. Once in the house, he puts the toys around the Christmas tree, eats the cookies and drinks the milk that is left for him before going to the next house. Sometimes taking time to get a kiss from mommy. Well, according to history, Saint Nicholas, who they portray Santa Clause, or Ole Saint Nick after, was a 4th century Bishop of Myra, which is located in Asia Minor , on the southwestern coast of the Mediterranean Sea.

A long way away from the North Pole! Also, according to Webster student dictionary, the definition for Nick, "The Devil" usually Old Nick. Now, is it possible to travel around the world in less than 24 hours stopping at every house? Knowing Reindeers don't fly; Christmas takes place in winter, so there's fire in the fireplaces to keep the house warm. What do you think would happen to a fat man trying to come down a chimney with a bag of toys on his back with a fire in the fireplace? If it's suppose to be Jesus birthday; why do we have to buy each other presents and what do we give him? A day filled with drinking, resulting in drunkenness, a day with a lot of fornication and adultery taking place. A day filled with lies pertaining to him. And what do a decorated tree, mistletoe, Yule logs, fire and lights have to do with Jesus?

 

[Twistie]

In the scriptures it's written Proverbs 17: 24 Wisdom is before him that hath understanding; But the eyes of a fool are in the ends of the earth.

Yes I know the Lord teaches His servants..
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[Twistie]

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Let's look at some of the absurd things applied to the day that man has set for the birthday of the Son of God, Jesus the Christ, our Savior. Santa Clause, Ole Saint Nick, that jolly old fat man that lives in the North Pole, runs a workshop with Elves (little people) and ride on a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer. He is reported to deliver gifts to all good children around the world on Christmas, beginning at midnight and being done before morning. Entering houses by landing his sleigh on the rooftops and descending down the chimney with his bag of toys on his back. Once in the house, he puts the toys around the Christmas tree, eats the cookies and drinks the milk that is left for him before going to the next house. Sometimes taking time to get a kiss from mommy. Well, according to history, Saint Nicholas, who they portray Santa Clause, or Ole Saint Nick after, was a 4th century Bishop of Myra, which is located in Asia Minor , on the southwestern coast of the Mediterranean Sea.

A long way away from the North Pole! Also, according to Webster student dictionary, the definition for Nick, "The Devil" usually Old Nick. Now, is it possible to travel around the world in less than 24 hours stopping at every house? Knowing Reindeers don't fly; Christmas takes place in winter, so there's fire in the fireplaces to keep the house warm. What do you think would happen to a fat man trying to come down a chimney with a bag of toys on his back with a fire in the fireplace? If it's suppose to be Jesus birthday; why do we have to buy each other presents and what do we give him? A day filled with drinking, resulting in drunkenness, a day with a lot of fornication and adultery taking place. A day filled with lies pertaining to him. And what do a decorated tree, mistletoe, Yule logs, fire and lights have to do with Jesus?

Ya.we are not the same you look at things with scales on the eyes I believe I believe ya heart has been harden some where and all you can do is see Santa n not the Gracious gift that was bestowed upon us . You see the physical gifts all the world can see The Lord allowed me to see much more.. n perhaps one day you will too.. idk but when ya do I pray your Spiritually strong enough and grounded enough to get through it . Perhaps your journey will be easier then what mine was idk that's not up for me to decide..

Hope all's well

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[Twistie]

I have much sympathy for those who can only see the physical aspect of such holidaya it's sad they can't see how there is for some reason more kindness n compassion I see families go visit families I see children that who usually get nothing where on these days they get a warm coat new boots or even maybe a bike I see people hearts become softer more apt to help an ole lady with bags sure this can be done every day n I'm sure in places it is but I see much more of it around the celebration of Christ birth..

Ya so I will rejoice on that day just like I do on every other day...for me Every day is a celebration for Christ birth anywho

I will go spend time with the Lord and imma ask Him to soften y'all hearts or take the scales of them eyes..

Hope all is well

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[JPPT1974]

Sadly people who make Christmas all about gifts, Santa, reindeer just to name a few are missing out on the really true reason. Really Jesus came to us as the baby born in humble beginnings who would save our salvation.
If you ask me, Christmas is becoming way too much commercialism.

 

[Twistie]

Sadly people who make Christmas all about gifts, Santa, reindeer just to name a few are missing out on the really true reason. Really Jesus came to us as the baby born in humble beginnings who would save our salvation.
If you ask me, Christmas is becoming way too much commercialism.

I feel as there are like two worlds that intertwine n some are just blind to one.. it's the only way I can explain how I've been seeing things anymore..
Idk personally I'm just keep fasting unto the Lord like we are told to do frfr

Hope all's well

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[Twistie]

In the scriptures it's written Proverbs 17: 24 Wisdom is before him that hath understanding; But the eyes of a fool are in the ends of the earth.

He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.
As it's written also

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[JohnB]

Christmas, the Incarnation of Christ. Anyone calling it a Pagan holiday is only doing the work of the enemy. Wolves in Sheeps clothing.
To celebrate the birth day of Jesus`s birth in December or easter or even if its changed to Jan 1st doesnt matter, its the celebration of our messiah.
If Christmas was Pagan we would be worshipping a tree or a present but we dont.
There are other man made holidays that people celebrate what God did for them. Hanukka and Sukkot, Do we call those pagan holidays? certainly not !

Christmas started in the garden, when mankind first fell into sin, the need for Christmas was presented.
Gen 3:15 God said Im gonna send you someone, that was right after the very first sin.
Christmas is the advent of the Messiah, we have reason to celebrate the birth of Christ . People celebrate their birthday daily.

Gal 3:24-25 the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we may be justified by faith, but now faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. The law showed the need for Christmas ( Jesus )
Jesus was the only one that could meet the standards of the law, not only did he meet them, he fullfilled them.

2Sam 7:16- The kingdom that God promised to david brought and led to Jesus.
Jesus`s kingdom came to dethrone sin- The need for Christmas.
Jeses was born to reign over every heart that would receive him.

When we celebrate Christmas, we celebrate that yes, we did fall into sin but God said he would send someone to rescue us and he did
Jesus was sent because God loved his creation and did not want any to perish.

The fact that we celebrate Christmas itself is a huge part of the Gospel . Celebrating Christmas magnifies the name of Christ.
Christmas is the mean-GoodFriday-Easter are the ends.
Praising and worshipping the birth of Jesus is the proper biblical response regardless of what day we do it.
I celebrate the birth of Jesus everyday of my life, that does not make me a Pagan.

Rom 10:19 Rm 11:11 Acts 5:17 Acts 13:45 Acts 17:5
God made Israel jealous many times to try to get their attention and the main time was when Gentiles were brought in and sadly that has been carried through all these years,: right up to this to this day many are still jealous and are only doing Satans work.
Many look at it in a way that the Gentiles received a participation trophy, which is fine, because that is what it truly is,
Salvation is for anyone that believes in their heart and confesses with their mouth.

Gentile, Jew, whatever part of the world you come from, whatever the color of your skin, it does not matter, we are all one in Christ Jesus.

Thank you Jesus

 

[BroTan]

The mistletoe was a sacred plant in the pagan religion of the Druids in Britain. It was believed to have all sorts of miraculous qualities: the power of healing diseases, making poisons harmless, giving fertility to humans and animals, protecting from witchcraft, banning evil spirits, bringing good luck and great blessings. In fact, the mistletoe was considered so sacred that even enemies who happened to meet beneath mistletoe in the forest would lay down their arms, exchange a friendly greeting, and keep a truce until the following day. From this old custom grew the practice of suspending mistletoe over a doorway or in a room as a token of good will and peace to all comers. The kiss under the mistletoe; the token of good will and friendship; the omen of happiness and good luck and the new religious significance.

Holly has been used in Christmas tradition for almost two thousand years. It's older, pagan origins began at least as early as ancient Rome, when holly was associated with Saturn, the sun god. In Druidic and other related pagan traditions, holly leaves were placed around homes in the winter in the belief that the fairies would use it as a shelter against the cold. Early Christians in the British Isles adopted this tradition at first to avoid persecution, but holly was eventually reinterpreted with Christian symbolism. The pointy edges represent the crown of thorns which Christ wore during his crucifixion. The red berries represent Christ's blood which he shed during His torture and death.

Why can't we find the word Christmas in the Bible? Why don't we see in the Bible where Jesus, the apostles, or anyone else for that matter, celebrating his birthday? The Bible tells us to remember his death (which is the Passover); it says nothing about celebrating his birth. It doesn't even tell you when he was born.

 

[Twistie]

Idk we got the word Christ..in there then mas which has many meaning can be forced labor all the way to tribute..
Have ya looked at the times it was named who named it n what that person was about? What they followed..
FUnny how many can see evil over what is meant for others to be good n those who see the evil can't see the Good the light it seems..

Just an observation..
Why we need discerment from the Lord why we need to test every Spirit we are told many false ones are here..

J.s.

Personally I'm cool where I am at like I said I allow the Lord to show me..

But I was curious if ya know..

Hope all's well

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