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And from your posts it seems that the God you follow is one of Self interest and intolerance, and just where has anyone said they are pro what youre accusing them of, One doesnt have to be pro drugs, or child abuse to see the Evil actions of Trump and the blindness of those that profess to be Christians yet blindly follow a man who is concerned only with his own greed and self importance regardless of the suffering and death that causes. You are indeed following a false prophet and i pray that you will open your eyes to the truth and Christ will heal your heart to his ways of Love, Compassion, Mercy and Justice.
I'm curious are you speaking up for the lil children being groomed n raped in your country or that ok cause your god allows it?..
Are you ok there speaking up against the Evils goin on or are you afraid they will come for you? Or are you just a false witnesses trolling in the Christian community looking for blind people to follow your god?..

Child Rape Gangs - Hansard - UK Parliament https://share.google/mfm85WX45uK8jboo0

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What does it matter where you are from?.. show how much one is in the world .

Lord tells His children what He expects of them..or are you one who loves His fruit and hates The Lord Himself n His ways because it's written about them kind of peep too..
Again I say this is what happens when man follows man n do not take counsel with the Lord Himself..I wonder have you ever heard the Lord..or is that just a farce to you??

For its written for those who have ears let them Hear..so have you heard Him?

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What does it matter where you are from?.. show how much one is in the world .

Lord tells His children what He expects of them..or are you one who loves His fruit and hates The Lord Himself n His ways because it's written about them kind of peep too..
Again I say this is what happens when man follows man n do not take counsel with the Lord Himself..I wonder have you ever heard the Lord..or is that just a farce to you??

For its written for those who have ears let them Hear..so have you heard Him?

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What does it matter where i am from?, are we not ALL Children of God regardless of the man made barriers we place upon Gods world, should i not care as much for the child starving to death in Sudan as i do for the child being abused next to my house, and is it not my duty as a Christian to fight against injustice whenever and wherever i see it, whether it be here in the UK, or in the US, or in Gaza or anywhere in Gods world that mans evil corrupts and destroys, And what do you mean by "Tidying up my own affairs before stepping into someone elses"?, in my Bible it says "Love your Neighbour as yourself and treat others as you'd want to be treated", there are no ifs or buts about it, and while there are indeed many things i am critical of here in the UK, there are not troops on the streets of cities, there are not masked men abducting citizens off the streets and breaking into their homes by force, their are not horrific concentration camps for "illegal" immigrants, the UK has not threatened another NATO country with armed force and has a parliamentary system with many checks and balances on the power of the executive that is absent in the US, Trump is a despot and a tyrant and while we have a mini version in Farage the US system is ripe for an authoritarian leader to assume control,.... and i do not hate Trump, and i do not condemn him because he goes against other countries beliefs or norms, i condemn his actions because they go against the laws and teachings of the Christ he professes to follow, i find his actions in cutting overseas aid leading to 14 million avoidable deaths and untold suffering, his destruction of Gods world through the repealing of environmental laws and protections, his persecution of minorities and immigrants, his blatant greed and corruption, his arbitrary use of force such as in Venezuela and his threats about Greenland, his pride and his arrogance to be abominable and a reflection of the Evil within his soul, when someone is described by Jeffrey Epstein as "I have met some very bad people ... none as bad as Trump," Epstein reportedly wrote in the email, which was released by House lawmakers this week in a trove of files", then you know youre dealing with a very bad individual, but he s in the position hes in because tens of millions of Americans voted for him, and continue to defend him, and the responsibility for what he does is as much theirs as his. But while i judge his actions i do not judge him , for that is Gods prerogative, a judgement we must ALL face and account for what we have, and havent done,.......... If you believe that all authority is given by God, then do you also believe that it is a Christians duty to fight against that Authority when its used to oppress and destroy?. Was Christ right to condemn the actions of the Scribes and Pharisees even though their authority was God given. Was the US right to fight against Nazism even though Hitlers authority was God given and was Trump right to depose Maduro even though his authority was God given.
What is the UK's 'grooming gangs' scandal, and why has it resurfaced? | Euronews What is the UK's 'grooming gangs' scandal, and why has it resurfaced?
 
ALL of the Nations of this world are built upon Greed and Selfishness, mainly concerned with increasing their own wealth and Power regardless of the suffering of others, like the majority of their citizenry who share the same values, But, before Trump and his Minions took power there was at least some semblance of a Domestic and International Legal System. That rules based system has now been shredded, on the Domestic front Trump disregards the Legal system with impunity in many cases and his masked thugs know as ICE kidnap, imprison and even kill with impunity. On the International front Trump has attacked boats in international waters with no evidence of wrongdoing, attacked sovereign countries, kidnapped a head of state and threatened others, even so called "friends" with military action. The Dept of Defence is now called the Dept of War with plans to vastly increase arms spending at the expense of social provisions for the poor and the sick. Any sign of opposition is now termed "Domestic Terrorism" and the Federal legal system has been politicised to go after perceived "enemies of the State, or a better term would be "Enemies of Trump". Trump has enriched himself and his family and minions using blatant corruption with little or no check on his actions from Congress or the legal system. And on the sidelines are many "Christians" cheering him on and defending his every action. It amazes me just how fast a nation built upon Freedom and Justice could descend so rapidly into thuggery and lawlessness and it needs all of us who follow Christ to speak out and fight against this Evil regime.
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This is ok with ya so much so that you gotta try n change America.. is it that you gave up on your own?

You don't care about people in your land that being raped n murder.. that's ok ey?



Anyone who don't protect their own is worse then a heathen it's written..
Your fruits are showing

Hope all's well

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N they just keep coming
It blows my mind how someone who is from a country like this have the audacity to put their two sense in what the American president should or should not do for The American people..
Perhaps fix the country your in before ya worry about what others are doing to fix theirs..

FYI

The zone for mosque center in Broken Arrow Oklahoma has been terminated!

Whoop Whoop..

I have a video of a meeting of Muslims men talking about how he married a 7 yr old and raped her at nine.. n people wanna try n force our country to put if with it or be called names..
Shoot call me names..

I feel as tho we are dealing with a bunch of people from Ninevah lol

They can not tell the left from their right..
Smh..

Rant over .

Have a good day y'all!!
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ALL of the Nations of this world are built upon Greed and Selfishness, mainly concerned with increasing their own wealth and Power regardless of the suffering of others, like the majority of their citizenry who share the same values, But, before Trump and his Minions took power there was at least some semblance of a Domestic and International Legal System. That rules based system has now been shredded, on the Domestic front Trump disregards the Legal system with impunity in many cases and his masked thugs know as ICE kidnap, imprison and even kill with impunity. On the International front Trump has attacked boats in international waters with no evidence of wrongdoing, attacked sovereign countries, kidnapped a head of state and threatened others, even so called "friends" with military action. The Dept of Defence is now called the Dept of War with plans to vastly increase arms spending at the expense of social provisions for the poor and the sick. Any sign of opposition is now termed "Domestic Terrorism" and the Federal legal system has been politicised to go after perceived "enemies of the State, or a better term would be "Enemies of Trump". Trump has enriched himself and his family and minions using blatant corruption with little or no check on his actions from Congress or the legal system. And on the sidelines are many "Christians" cheering him on and defending his every action. It amazes me just how fast a nation built upon Freedom and Justice could descend so rapidly into thuggery and lawlessness and it needs all of us who follow Christ to speak out and fight against this Evil regime.
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom.

Just a little rebuttal. I know we can sit here and say that we've never seen anything like this before, but we have to also remember that having the internet makes everything available to us where in the past before the internet we could only go by whatever we received via the news like with Walter Cronkite or politicians that talk about it. All the intricacies of the craziness we we're not privy to.

That's also is true about all of the attitudes of everyone across the country. Things like social internet Facebook and all the other ones have given rise to being able to speak your mind up to a point. Because the platforms are limiting everyone to whatever their own personal agenda allows.

As an example of the craziness if you want to put it that way I don't believe that the craziness is actually as bad as it seems because, people are being paid by people like George Soros to Riot. There was a lady that was confronting a police officer in Minneapolis a couple days ago that stated to the police officer that she was making $200,000 a year rioting.

I'm certain that you didn't mean to tell everybody what you was making But the thing is is that if Billionaires are willing to pay Everyone 200 000 a year or some of them that much money and others may be a little bit less but still These people are making more money than I'm making in a year Period maybe I'm in the wrong business Lol.

So you can see that a lot of the protesters would not normally be there doing all these things because they're doing it for the money not for something that they really truly believe in.

I think I would like to know how quickly the revolving door is for people who are arrested by Ice that are protesters how long do they actually stay in jail if they go to jail at all?
 
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I scrolled back a little bit and saw that people were talking about how terrible it islamics are. I would like to point out that every Nation on the planet if we are going to look at individual groups as a whole, every group in the world has their own particular people who are whack jobs.

Whether we want to say that they are our own or not is beside the point. It would be the same as us pointing out the islamics that are the terrorists that are the rape groups and so on. But in the United States we also have a group that's well known for their lynching killing people burning people alive. The Klu Klux Klan. And those are just the ones that are in well-known back years ago what about these days when you have the skinheads or you have the pro Nazi movement in the United States. And there are other groups that are just as hellish as those. We don't really hear much about all that we only hear about everybody else.

The whole business about pointing fingers whether it's a religious issue or a race issue All the Above all these things are distractions from simple truth, that mankind needs to respect each other no matter who they are. The second commandment that Jesus gave us "love your neighbor as yourself", this is the most important thing under loving God with your whole self. If we could at least love our neighbors as ourselves, think of how much better the world would be.
 
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May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I scrolled back a little bit and saw that people were talking about how terrible it islamics are. I would like to point out that every Nation on the planet if we are going to look at individual groups as a whole, every group in the world has their own particular people who are whack jobs.

Whether we want to say that they are our own or not is beside the point. It would be the same as us pointing out the islamics that are the terrorists that are the rape groups and so on. But in the United States we also have a group that's well known for their lynching killing people burning people alive. The Klu Klux Klan. And those are just the ones that are in well-known back years ago what about these days when you have the skinheads or you have the pro Nazi movement in the United States. And there are other groups that are just as hellish as those. We don't really hear much about all that we only hear about everybody else.

The whole business about pointing fingers whether it's a religious issue or a race issue All the Above all these things are distractions from simple truth, that mankind needs to respect each other no matter who they are. The second commandment that Jesus gave us "love your neighbor as yourself", this is the most important thing under loving God with your whole self. If we could at least love our neighbors as ourselves, think of how much better the world would be.
Dear Brother,
I guess we hear less, because there are less of those types of groups. Clearly those other groups want their own space, and don't necessarily want us dead though I am sure they are willing to kill us so that we would aquiesce to their demands. Out of the billions or so of Muslims in the world, a conservative estimate is that 10% are radicals; not against using violence. There is no telling how many Muslims are not, but who don't have too much of an issue with those who do. Meaning there are at least 100 million (mind boggling to think of), that have no issue with non-believers being killed or doing violence they believe is justified to use against us. :(

You can't even begin to equate pro-Nazi, white supremacist, KKK like groups, that can come close to that number, even combined, nor how they are viewed by others. All these groups, to include other religions should be anathema to the believer. Too often the 2nd commandment that Jesus gave us is misconstrued to mean accepting all about them, like you want all to be accepted of you. That is the furthest thing from the truth. For that is not love. If one is honest as a believer, you'd want to be told when you are doing something wrong, which is in truth more reflective of Jesus' command, then not doing so, for fear of hurting their feelings. I don't mind what Brother Rad has been saying, for he believes it to be true, though I would disagree with it vehemently and do so at every opportunity! lol At least I know where he stands, though I think he’s misguided, just as I’m sure he sees me the same way. I'm loving my neighbor brother, but I'm not against telling them to mind their "p's" and "q's" when they're in my house. As I would expect from them, when I'm in theirs.

I have no idea how we have come to this brother, but it's here and we have to find a way to come to an understanding that doesn't require us to kill each other for the differences that clearly exists. Focusing on Jesus and His Word should be it, but even there the adversary has made his presence known through denominationalism... :( We must remember that in Christ Jesus we are Brothers & Sisters!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Nick
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I'm curious are you speaking up for the lil children being groomed n raped in your country or that ok cause your god allows it?..
Are you ok there speaking up against the Evils goin on or are you afraid they will come for you? Or are you just a false witnesses trolling in the Christian community looking for blind people to follow your god?..

Child Rape Gangs - Hansard - UK Parliament https://share.google/mfm85WX45uK8jboo0

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England and Wales ranked first place. Almost double my country and here it feels like every girl alone in a back alley will be a victim. Scotland high on the list too.
 
@Rad ''I hate his policies''

 
I am 65 years old and I have never seen such delusion in this country. Because of sick social media and reprobate smiling politicians, I have never seen such utter lawlessness in this country.
Its like uttter animal mindlessness running amok, to go out and lustfully sin without any conscience, either not knowing or caring when Jesus Christ returns.

High level I agree. But am just wondering if something or someone specifically, motivated this post from you?
 
Clearly as previously said, you believe what you want to believe, but what happens in the US, you can pray for but that is it, because you have no irons in the fire outside of prayer that would allow you to change what is going on. Plus, though you would twist scripture to allow you to do so it is not your right to dictate what a sovereign government duly elected at does when you are not a citizen of it be you Christian or not. That is what elections for better or worse are for. Yet, that is not what you are suggesting is it? And this just because you disagree with what is happening here, though many millions in the US in general have no issue with.

Answer, the one about God putting all authority in place, and say it is still your right to attempt to overthrow a legal government, again duly elected, which is exactly what you are by your conversation suggesting being done! All the while the very nation you are talking about has the checks & balances already in place to deal with such situations. You'd know this if you were from here. Just not moving fast enough for you, is it?

So, what are the weapons of a believer??? Best read Ephesians 6 again. Have you said to anyone, "Pray to the Throne of Mercy & Grace that these things be changed?" Nope, which leaves one believer or not with what alternative? What are you suggesting but anarchy/insurrection! Your message is not one of peace!

Check yourself at the door brother. You address the problems in the UK, with the beam still in your own eye, because it's still broken! Fix it, and just don't say you've been working on it, while dedicating yourself to trying to fix another country's problem before fixing your own! Oh, and don't say you can multi-task, because the beam is still in your eye, and so cannot see clearly enough to make that call!

Also, do not bring up Christ as a justification for doing what you are doing! Unless you are claiming His infallibility, you don't have a leg to stand on!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Nick
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We ALL believe what we want to believe, that is the nature of humanity, even when our beliefs are clearly wrong we still cling to them as evidenced by the number of Germans who even after living through the horrors of Nazism still clung to its core values, and as a Christian, or just as a concerned citizen of the world, i have "irons in the fire" whenever i see injustice, oppression or exploitation, wherever that may occur, be it in the UK, the US, Sudan, Gaza, Venezuela, Iran, Myanmar, or the DRC, to name just a few, its Gods WORLD, not country, and if you restrict your concern for only your fellow citizens then how deep is that concern, .........and in todays interconnected world you can do far more than just pray, you can act, you can sign petitions, you can send e-mails and letters, you can contribute to campaigning organisations, you can follow Gods call to Justice and compassion throughout his world and not just be confined to artificial man made barriers. In my Bible it says "Love your neighbour as yourself and treat others as you'd want to be treated", whether that "neighbour", is next door, in the next street, in the next city, in the next County, in the next country, atm there are 10-15 million people facing starvation in Sudan primarily as a cause of a civil war being fought by 2 sides armed and financed by different countries in the region with an eye for Sudans resources, if i can try to stop the flow of arms by lobbying those Governments then why wouldnt i, if i can help finance campaigning organisations working to bring an end to hostilities then why wouldnt i, indeed as a follower of Christ i have a duty to "treat others as i would want them to treat me", no national barriers, no ifs or buts, but plain and simple Justice and Compassion, putting yourself in the place of those suffering and asking, "If i was in their place what would i want?",......... and i'm not "dictating" what should happen, as you rightly say i dont have that power, but i do have the power to make my voice heard and speak out when i see oppression and injustice, WHEREVER that may occur, or is your plan just to vote every 4 years and let the elected government pursue its agenda, however brutal and unjust that agenda is, is that how you reads Christs teachings to those that profess to follow him?,....... yes we have a different view on the "authority" of Governments, i see that authority as deriving from the Devil who God has allowed to have control of the Kingdoms of this world, for when Christ was being tempted by the Devil the Devil offered him ALL the kingdoms of this world because as he said " they are mine to do with as i wish", and that is plain to see of ALL Governments, for ALL are ruled by greed, selfishness and a lust for Power and control., so i have no problem in campaigning against the abuses i see committed throughout this world, in fact as i say, i have a duty so to do, ...... and i am not seeking to "overthrow the duly elected government" of Trump, i campaign against his policies the same as i campaign against the policies of any government that seeks to oppress and murder, the US is not my sole cause but one of many countries in this evil world that i campaign against........ the weapons of a "believer" are Justice, Compassion, Mercy and Humility, these are the "weapons" we take up when we fight against Evil and Oppression, Prayer sustains us, our Faith gives us hope and our Love shields us from Hate, and the fight will never "move fast enough", for Evil is like a Hydra, cut off a head and another 2 takes its place, its a battle we can never win, but must fight knowing that the true victory will come when Christ returns and brings this world of sorrow and suffering to an end and dispenses true Justice to us ALL,....... and what is this obsession with only being concerned about injustice and suffering in our own countries, where does it say, "Treat others as you'd want to be treated, but, only if theyre in your country", or "Love your neighbour as yourself" as long as they arent over the national boundary, so 1 metre inside the country, theyre my concern, 1 metre outside the country, not my concern, just where in all of Christs teachings do you find your basis for that belief, and what if no ones starving in my country but throughout Gods world hundreds of millions are, are they no concern of mine, you need to understand its Gods WORLD, not country, not district, not region, but WORLD,and we as Christians have a responsibility for ALL of our fellow Children of God wherever they may live,......... of course we can multi task, its so easy, sitting here i can campaign on issues all over Gods world, i can send money all over Gods world, I can communicate with people all over Gods world, whats the problem , the only restrictions on our compassion and concern are the restrictions youre putting on by insisting we concern ourselves just with issues within our Man made national boundaries, and yes of course the "Log" is in my eye and always will be, i am a wretched sinner, i know that, but what relevance does my sin have on the good i can try to do, i am a sinner as much in my campaigning in the Uk as i am a sinner campaigning in Gods world, whats the difference?,...... and as a Christian, albeit a wretched one, of course i will "bring up Christ" as a "justification" for what i'm doing, i hope that whatever i do in life has some basis in Christs teaching, isnt that what being a Christian is all about, or do you believe we should compartmentalise our lives into boxes, some of them Christian based , some of them secular based, Christs teachings influence every aspect of my life, whether it be my faith, politics, my personal relationships, my finances, isnt that what we should ALL do as Christians?...... and whatever our differences i do appreciate your perspective and your signing off, so......

With the Love of Christ Jesus

Steve
 
We ALL believe what we want to believe, that is the nature of humanity, even when our beliefs are clearly wrong we still cling to them as evidenced by the number of Germans who even after living through the horrors of Nazism still clung to its core values, and as a Christian, or just as a concerned citizen of the world, i have "irons in the fire" whenever i see injustice, oppression or exploitation, wherever that may occur, be it in the UK, the US, Sudan, Gaza, Venezuela, Iran, Myanmar, or the DRC, to name just a few, its Gods WORLD, not country, and if you restrict your concern for only your fellow citizens then how deep is that concern, .........and in todays interconnected world you can do far more than just pray, you can act, you can sign petitions, you can send e-mails and letters, you can contribute to campaigning organisations, you can follow Gods call to Justice and compassion throughout his world and not just be confined to artificial man made barriers. In my Bible it says "Love your neighbour as yourself and treat others as you'd want to be treated", whether that "neighbour", is next door, in the next street, in the next city, in the next County, in the next country, atm there are 10-15 million people facing starvation in Sudan primarily as a cause of a civil war being fought by 2 sides armed and financed by different countries in the region with an eye for Sudans resources, if i can try to stop the flow of arms by lobbying those Governments then why wouldnt i, if i can help finance campaigning organisations working to bring an end to hostilities then why wouldnt i, indeed as a follower of Christ i have a duty to "treat others as i would want them to treat me", no national barriers, no ifs or buts, but plain and simple Justice and Compassion, putting yourself in the place of those suffering and asking, "If i was in their place what would i want?",......... and i'm not "dictating" what should happen, as you rightly say i dont have that power, but i do have the power to make my voice heard and speak out when i see oppression and injustice, WHEREVER that may occur, or is your plan just to vote every 4 years and let the elected government pursue its agenda, however brutal and unjust that agenda is, is that how you reads Christs teachings to those that profess to follow him?,....... yes we have a different view on the "authority" of Governments, i see that authority as deriving from the Devil who God has allowed to have control of the Kingdoms of this world, for when Christ was being tempted by the Devil the Devil offered him ALL the kingdoms of this world because as he said " they are mine to do with as i wish", and that is plain to see of ALL Governments, for ALL are ruled by greed, selfishness and a lust for Power and control., so i have no problem in campaigning against the abuses i see committed throughout this world, in fact as i say, i have a duty so to do, ...... and i am not seeking to "overthrow the duly elected government" of Trump, i campaign against his policies the same as i campaign against the policies of any government that seeks to oppress and murder, the US is not my sole cause but one of many countries in this evil world that i campaign against........ the weapons of a "believer" are Justice, Compassion, Mercy and Humility, these are the "weapons" we take up when we fight against Evil and Oppression, Prayer sustains us, our Faith gives us hope and our Love shields us from Hate, and the fight will never "move fast enough", for Evil is like a Hydra, cut off a head and another 2 takes its place, its a battle we can never win, but must fight knowing that the true victory will come when Christ returns and brings this world of sorrow and suffering to an end and dispenses true Justice to us ALL,....... and what is this obsession with only being concerned about injustice and suffering in our own countries, where does it say, "Treat others as you'd want to be treated, but, only if theyre in your country", or "Love your neighbour as yourself" as long as they arent over the national boundary, so 1 metre inside the country, theyre my concern, 1 metre outside the country, not my concern, just where in all of Christs teachings do you find your basis for that belief, and what if no ones starving in my country but throughout Gods world hundreds of millions are, are they no concern of mine, you need to understand its Gods WORLD, not country, not district, not region, but WORLD,and we as Christians have a responsibility for ALL of our fellow Children of God wherever they may live,......... of course we can multi task, its so easy, sitting here i can campaign on issues all over Gods world, i can send money all over Gods world, I can communicate with people all over Gods world, whats the problem , the only restrictions on our compassion and concern are the restrictions youre putting on by insisting we concern ourselves just with issues within our Man made national boundaries, and yes of course the "Log" is in my eye and always will be, i am a wretched sinner, i know that, but what relevance does my sin have on the good i can try to do, i am a sinner as much in my campaigning in the Uk as i am a sinner campaigning in Gods world, whats the difference?,...... and as a Christian, albeit a wretched one, of course i will "bring up Christ" as a "justification" for what i'm doing, i hope that whatever i do in life has some basis in Christs teaching, isnt that what being a Christian is all about, or do you believe we should compartmentalise our lives into boxes, some of them Christian based , some of them secular based, Christs teachings influence every aspect of my life, whether it be my faith, politics, my personal relationships, my finances, isnt that what we should ALL do as Christians?...... and whatever our differences i do appreciate your perspective and your signing off, so......

With the Love of Christ Jesus

Steve
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I thought you might like to know that before Donald Trump became president the Lord spoke to me and told me that Donald Trump was his president. And I asked the Lord I said well what about another candidate that seem fairly religious and the Lord said to me he rejected that person.

On the day of the first election, the Lord told me that an angel was sent to president Trump to let him know not to worry but that God was with him. At the time it looked like Hillary was going to win in a landslide, but after the Lord spoke to him everything changed and he became president.

The Lord told me that President Trump was protected by him. And I saw a large Rock surrounded by water and everywhere the water was striking at the Rock from all sides and The Rock represented Donald Trump. And God was with him

The Lord sent an angel to Donald Trump Asking him If he would lay his life down for his country And he said that he would. It was during his first term as president that the Lord told me that Donald Trump would be killed in office during his second term

I shared that here at Talk Jesus and when he wasn't reelected they said to me that I'm not a prophet LOL and I told them it's not over yet

I know that everything that Donald Trump is doing is for the good of the country. No matter how extreme it looks like to removal of the dictator in Venezuela and everything else going on around the country. Donald Trump is for this country and he is in office because of God.
 
I had to answer this one. Since you've talked about illegal immigration/immigration in your postings on President Trump. It is the Law of the Land and has been for a long, long, time! Don't tell me it's the process that is upsetting to you! lol

The previous 3 presidents at least have deported more people than President Trump has so far!!! Did you know that? Have you been posting your outrage at that when it was happening??? If not, then what does that make you?

Here are some totals for you to ponder:
Bush: 10 million
Obama: 5 million
Trump 1st term: 1.5 - 2 million
Biden: 4.4 - 6 million
Trump 2nd term: 640,000 thousand (and I'm sure still growing)

Oh, and you've been a member here since 2005, well within the window of the above numbers to have been known by you!!! And you say it's not about Trump. Really now...

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Of course it upsets me, as i believe it should upset ALL those that profess to follow Christ, do you believe in Christs eyes there are "illegal" immigrants, do you believe that man made distinctions are applicable in determining whether or not we should "Love our Neighbour" as ourselves, or "treat others as we'd want to be treated", in Matthew 25 "the Sheep and the goats", Christ talks of the "stranger" and of seeing him in those seeking refuge in other countries, just how many "Christs" do you think have been forcibly detained, beaten, and sometimes killed in the process of expelling those we consider "illegal" or "undesirable", ...... and yes i do find the "process" objectionable, both in the US and here in the UK, although atm US policy is far more violent and brutal than anything here in the UK, but that could change, dont you find it upsetting seeing masked and armed men breaking into houses, churches, places of work and dragging helpless victims into vans, of random shootings and open brutality being practised on the streets of America, doesnt that upset you too? ..... and just because i oppose the policies of Trump doesnt make me pro Obama, or Biden, or Bush, or whoever, i refuse to tie my life , my soul to any particular political movement because theyre ALL corrupt, all driven by self interest, ALL immersed in A lust for power and control,....... i'm against ALL forms of injustice and oppression in this Evil world whoever perpetrates it, and as a Christian shouldnt you be too?.

With the Love of Christ Jesus

Steve
 
Of course it upsets me, as i believe it should upset ALL those that profess to follow Christ, do you believe in Christs eyes there are "illegal" immigrants, do you believe that man made distinctions are applicable in determining whether or not we should "Love our Neighbour" as ourselves, or "treat others as we'd want to be treated", in Matthew 25 "the Sheep and the goats", Christ talks of the "stranger" and of seeing him in those seeking refuge in other countries, just how many "Christs" do you think have been forcibly detained, beaten, and sometimes killed in the process of expelling those we consider "illegal" or "undesirable", ...... and yes i do find the "process" objectionable, both in the US and here in the UK, although atm US policy is far more violent and brutal than anything here in the UK, but that could change, dont you find it upsetting seeing masked and armed men breaking into houses, churches, places of work and dragging helpless victims into vans, of random shootings and open brutality being practised on the streets of America, doesnt that upset you too? ..... and just because i oppose the policies of Trump doesnt make me pro Obama, or Biden, or Bush, or whoever, i refuse to tie my life , my soul to any particular political movement because theyre ALL corrupt, all driven by self interest, ALL immersed in A lust for power and control,....... i'm against ALL forms of injustice and oppression in this Evil world whoever perpetrates it, and as a Christian shouldnt you be too?.

With the Love of Christ Jesus

Steve
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I'm all four the ice agents and the FBI and the police and the state police and everyone else that is trying to bring Law and Order to the country. And for removing people who are here to do harm to our people in our country. The ice agents typically focus on those who are causing threatening behavior. Or causing huge frauds to the American people and if the people cooperated there would be no violence at all. However the violence breaks out because it is perpetrated by protesters who are doing above and beyond protesting, like putting themselves In Harm's Way of vehicles or trying to kill ice agents or shooting all sorts of crap at law enforcement or throwing bricks from Bridges and all sorts of things. You want to be against violence be against those guys that are causing so much violence. Antifa, black lives matter, these groups are not looking for peace they're looking to overthrow a government.

I can tell you quite plainly America came about because God wanted it. There's no other country in the world like America, and everybody hates America just like everybody hates God in the world.

America is the most generous country in the world. It didn't have to get into World War II or World War I for that matter because both of those wars were fought in Europe and yet the people in America in those days wanted to go over and fight the evil that was there. The same thing is true today, the United States has helped people around the world in numerous ways and has never as for anything in return. These things are not talked about on the news, most people don't even try to brag about it but all you have to do is look and you'll confine all sorts of things that America has done as a nation or groups in America have done around the globe.

The Proposal that President Trump had with the Gaza Strip was really quite remarkable if you think about it. He was trying to bring in all these Arab countries along with Israel to make something beautiful. But of course he never hear much about it on the news media and it didn't work because everybody's at war with everybody no one understands how to forgive in the Middle East. Forgiveness in the Middle East it's looked upon as being weak. So if you slap one guy in the face then he's going to slap you right back and it's going to go on and on and on until somebody dies and when that person dies then their sons and daughters will take up the banner and do the same thing right back and it keeps on going this is the problem in the Middle East. And everybody is that way from Syria to Iran Israel is just as bad in many ways, Egypt all those countries they all have that mentality.

So coming down on President Trump isn't going to work at least for me. And coming down on the American people as a whole isn't going to work either because it's only a handful of people that are the radical whack jobs out there.

And if you do want to come into the states just talk to all of the immigrants that have come over from Europe, how they came in the right way to become legal citizens of the United States and to learn the language.

So don't come down on all the Christians in this country just because they're not doing things the way that you want them to do it. I believe most Christians in this country are of a more peaceful nature. There are ways of doing things and there are ways not to do things.
 
What does it matter where you are from?.. show how much one is in the world .

Lord tells His children what He expects of them..or are you one who loves His fruit and hates The Lord Himself n His ways because it's written about them kind of peep too..
Again I say this is what happens when man follows man n do not take counsel with the Lord Himself..I wonder have you ever heard the Lord..or is that just a farce to you??

For its written for those who have ears let them Hear..so have you heard Him?

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Of couse i'm "in the world", we are ALL "in the world", the important thing is as Christians how we behave "in the world", you cannot separate yourself from the world and the events taking place within it because you are inextricably linked to those events, the people you vote for, the products you buy, the lifestyle you follow ALL have implications on the World and those living in it,........ Christ taught us how we should act "in the World", the "Sermon on the Mount" is the "Blueprint for a Christian life", so if you have ears , then open them to Christs word and understand that he calls on his followers to be a part of this world and to live in it with Justice, Compassion and Mercy in their Hearts..
 
i have "irons in the fire" whenever i see injustice, oppression or exploitation,
Is that what you see is happening in the US???
If it is then it's your perspective that needs changing, because it is not. Especially, as you associate it with Nazi Germany! In that case, isn't that same association should be made with the UK or any country for that matter??? Clearly injustice is going on, oppression, and exploitation, but its happening in every country! You think if the US changes all the others will follow suit? No, all you will have is a fallen country, and a vacuum of power that will be filled by the ungodly.
if you restrict your concern for only your fellow citizens then how deep is that concern
How do you know how God wants the world to unfold? Even the authority of Nazi Germany was put in place by God, or do you not believe that was so? Your problem is that you expect non-believers to behave as Christians should, and you are willing to condone un-Christian like behavior that it might be so. Not a good picture.
and in todays interconnected world you can do far more than just pray, you can act, you can sign petitions, you can send e-mails and letters, you can contribute to campaigning organisations, you can follow Gods call to Justice and compassion throughout his world and not just be confined to artificial man made barriers.
Oh, gosh. Playing God, and doing what God won't? Or do you believe you are doing God's will in this? Artificial man made barriers, you say, that created a Nation Under God, that separated from an un-godly oppressive rule of the Empire, that you call home. Don't say aligning with organizations which are man made barriers as well is your solution!

It's appropriate to remove the beam from your own eye first, before accusing others of what is lawful, whether you think it is or not, that was established by the people themselves, many God fearing/loving ones too! That the anarchist in you is aligning with that you seem to agree with would then not be surprising! There is no where in the Bible, and try as you might is insufficient justification for going against it. That speaks of dominionism.
atm there are 10-15 million people facing starvation in Sudan primarily as a cause of a civil war being fought by 2 sides armed and financed by different countries in the region with an eye for Sudans resources, if i can try to stop the flow of arms by lobbying those Governments then why wouldnt i, if i can help finance campaigning organisations working to bring an end to hostilities then why wouldnt i, indeed as a follower of Christ i have a duty to "treat others as i would want them to treat me", no national barriers, no ifs or buts, but plain and simple Justice and Compassion, putting yourself in the place of those suffering and asking, "If i was in their place what would i want?"
Well said, but are you equating that with what is happening the US?
If you are then, in truth, you are not and do not want to see anything else but what you believe to be true and are an anarchist at heart! :( Thinking you can create a utopia by destroying what is in place, and by the way causing even more pain, suffering, and death then you can even imagine! Then I'm sure you'll be falling before the Throne of Mercy & Grace which is where you should have been in the first place, asking Him to fix it!
In my Bible it says "Love your neighbour as yourself and treat others as you'd want to be treated",
You've used that to justify all thinks and never takes into account your own sin, and blindness into account in the belief that you know better! History is full of people using love your neighbor to create conditions of atrocities filling graves. Your problem is that you keep banging your head against your neighbor's door while they are trying to resolve problems that are not your place to fix! It's their house brother, not yours!!! What you wind up doing, is turning them against you because no matter what one says, you are right and they are wrong, and if this country you are chastising falls; the pain, suffering, death that ensues will be at your feet! For you will have contributed to it! Please, you won't be able to live with yourself, or you will surely fall into Matthew 7:22!

What you should do is apply Matthew 7:6, especially since you'd agree what you are seeing happening here in the US as falling into that category of disregard!
so i have no problem in campaigning against the abuses i see committed throughout this world
I bolded above with what I see the problem being with you my neighbor! :) What you see!!! Irrespective of what others may see, and what "you" believe the word of God is telling you; you keep on! Can you say the Holy Spirit has guided you into doing/saying what you've been doing here? I am really curious how you will answer that. I mean you take your actions to create change that you believe is necessary, even before/above spreading the Gospel! Supporting the very organizations, that are not of the faith, as if you know how it will turn out!
i see that authority as deriving from the Devil who God has allowed to have control of the Kingdoms of this world, for when Christ was being tempted by the Devil the Devil offered him ALL the kingdoms of this world because as he said " they are mine to do with as i wish", and that is plain to see of ALL Governments, for ALL are ruled by greed, selfishness and a lust for Power and control.
So, are you saying that all authority was and continues to be Satan's because God has given it to Him and so the authority of the governments mentioned in Romans 13:1 is a lie? Standing by what you said above in your words as this being true, because the father of lies said it???
i have a duty
Your duty is to Jesus and to Him alone!
what is this obsession with only being concerned about injustice and suffering in our own countries, where does it say, "Treat others as you'd want to be treated, but, only if theyre in your country", or "Love your neighbour as yourself" as long as they arent over the national boundary, so 1 metre inside the country, theyre my concern, 1 metre outside the country, not my concern, just where in all of Christs teachings do you find your basis for that belief, and what if no ones starving in my country but throughout Gods world hundreds of millions are, are they no concern of mine, you need to understand its Gods WORLD, not country, not district, not region, but WORLD,and we as Christians have a responsibility for ALL of our fellow Children of God wherever they may live,.
It is not an obsession brother. It's a reality that you just don't want to accept. Whether your neighbor wants it or not, you will make them change! Is that your Mantra? Because if it is, then you are playing god, and that sadly is idolatry! Don't let pride bring you down!
what relevance does my sin have on the good i can try to do,
Because only God is good and all the time, even when you think He's not working, He is. If you know this to be your Holy Spirit directed calling to do, then don't let me dissuade you, besides the fact I know I won't/shouldn't be able to change your mind from doing so but also be warned of the consequences of your actions if it is not! That is price I would not want my neighbor to have to pay.

My concern is that you believe, whether you know of it or not, is dominionism theology. Take care of yourself Brother Steve.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Of course it upsets me, as i believe it should upset ALL those that profess to follow Christ, do you believe in Christs eyes there are "illegal" immigrants, do you believe that man made distinctions are applicable in determining whether or not we should "Love our Neighbour" as ourselves, or "treat others as we'd want to be treated", in Matthew 25 "the Sheep and the goats", Christ talks of the "stranger" and of seeing him in those seeking refuge in other countries, just how many "Christs" do you think have been forcibly detained, beaten, and sometimes killed in the process of expelling those we consider "illegal" or "undesirable", ...... and yes i do find the "process" objectionable, both in the US and here in the UK, although atm US policy is far more violent and brutal than anything here in the UK, but that could change, dont you find it upsetting seeing masked and armed men breaking into houses, churches, places of work and dragging helpless victims into vans, of random shootings and open brutality being practised on the streets of America, doesnt that upset you too? ..... and just because i oppose the policies of Trump doesnt make me pro Obama, or Biden, or Bush, or whoever, i refuse to tie my life , my soul to any particular political movement because theyre ALL corrupt, all driven by self interest, ALL immersed in A lust for power and control,....... i'm against ALL forms of injustice and oppression in this Evil world whoever perpetrates it, and as a Christian shouldnt you be too?.

With the Love of Christ Jesus

Steve
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

One could argue the point on the other side of the coin, do you see the eyes of Jesus in the ice agents, or in the president or in members of Congress or in all of the other stations of life?

Jesus could have healed everyone in Israel, but he only chose a select few why do you think that is?

Just like Jesus said thousands he could have healed thousands too. He was in a crowd of people and one lady that healed.

Do you think that God is a god of sadism, that he likes to inflict pain on others? God allows us to have free will, and it is our choices that cause the inhumanity to mankind. We have to choose, but we also have to live our lives in our country. It certainly is a balancing act so to speak. To be able to weigh the just Cause of removing illegal aliens, and still have compassion towards others.
 
Of course it upsets me, as i believe it should upset ALL those that profess to follow Christ, do you believe in Christs eyes there are "illegal" immigrants, do you believe that man made distinctions are applicable in determining whether or not we should "Love our Neighbour" as ourselves, or "treat others as we'd want to be treated", in Matthew 25 "the Sheep and the goats", Christ talks of the "stranger" and of seeing him in those seeking refuge in other countries, just how many "Christs" do you think have been forcibly detained, beaten, and sometimes killed in the process of expelling those we consider "illegal" or "undesirable", ...... and yes i do find the "process" objectionable, both in the US and here in the UK, although atm US policy is far more violent and brutal than anything here in the UK, but that could change, dont you find it upsetting seeing masked and armed men breaking into houses, churches, places of work and dragging helpless victims into vans, of random shootings and open brutality being practised on the streets of America, doesnt that upset you too? ..... and just because i oppose the policies of Trump doesnt make me pro Obama, or Biden, or Bush, or whoever, i refuse to tie my life , my soul to any particular political movement because theyre ALL corrupt, all driven by self interest, ALL immersed in A lust for power and control,....... i'm against ALL forms of injustice and oppression in this Evil world whoever perpetrates it, and as a Christian shouldnt you be too?.

With the Love of Christ Jesus

Steve
I didn't say you were pro this or that. The point was your outcry during those times was missing and still is! Anyone being objective would see that as biased, and it should be taken into account when evaluating your motivations, in addition to the intrinsic ones you now claim drive you against President Trump.

Oh, stop using trigger words, like victims, when they broke the law of the land, which makes them what??? Come on, you can say it, because I won't say it for you! The UK and every other country out there, even Vatican City, doesn't allow anyone to just waltz across their borders, but somehow the US should? Because this is the land of plenty? Allowing the hard working people to subsidize the non-workers which is what is happening!

You don't know the geo-political nature of why Democrats want this influx of illegals, and yes they are illegals, to come into the US. They also have shipped them to certain areas of the country as well. Since you know so much about the US political scene, do you know why they are doing this? If you say out of the goodness of their hearts, or that you don't care why, then more work on removing that little something from your eye is necessary, because your actions will create the opposite of what you think will happen, as you can see in the streets, neighborhoods throughout the US! You think Jesus wants that? I don't think so.

With the Love of Christ Jesus, brother Steve.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Of couse i'm "in the world", we are ALL "in the world", the important thing is as Christians how we behave "in the world", you cannot separate yourself from the world and the events taking place within it because you are inextricably linked to those events, the people you vote for, the products you buy, the lifestyle you follow ALL have implications on the World and those living in it,........ Christ taught us how we should act "in the World", the "Sermon on the Mount" is the "Blueprint for a Christian life", so if you have ears , then open them to Christs word and understand that he calls on his followers to be a part of this world and to live in it with Justice, Compassion and Mercy in their Hearts..
Ya excuses I can't I don't have to I don't want to..a bleeding heart will be your down fall..

When I was a child I walked and talk like one to..

Good luck with that monkey..

Only one can help ya..

Try spending time with the Lord try not to lean on your own world man taught ways . N try standing up for what is right right where your at before sticking your nose where it don't belong as my nanny would say..
She also said the road to hell is paved with good intentions..
If I am correct your come back with some bleeding heart mushy god aspects for your above spending time with the Lord Himself..
Do you even believe that the Lord talks to His children or are one you that calls those who can hear Him some kind of derogatory name? There's quite a few people in here like that that are here in the USA .

So what have you done about the grooming and the rape gangs where you reside have you gone and spoke out against in the flesh? Or are you just another parrot key board warrior as I call them..
Have you ever taken anyone in your home to feed clothes shelter n lift them up or do you just talk the walk like satan can only do??.
Lord said for me to tear every Spirit I come in contact with..are you one that gets all offended when the Truth is spoken?.
Me personally I'm born bred American I live in many states many cities walked many of the streets seen children at the age of five standing on corners at 9 selling drugs lil girls being being found dead woman bodies in garbage cans wrapped in plastic n you who can't tell the difference between right and wrong think that protecting one people against evil is not if the Living God..
You got one sick n twisted god you follow..
Mt God protect His people..My God is a righteous God.My God is of Order .My God is Holy And perfect in all ways in Love as well as His Wrath is Holy and perfect and Just..

We don't follow the same God.. personally I follow the Living One I am unsure which entity you follow but it is an evil one one of chaos one that has no order .

Hope ya come into the Light soon..

All's one gotta do is humble themselves and fall into the Light of the Lord and Listen for His voice to Lead..

Right now in America we got goofy people like you protesting against Law and order n they are now evolving children and putting them in harms ways..they got children carrying signs they can't even read cause they been to bust telling like boy and girls they can mutilate themselves to become what ever they want. Goofy people like you stop people from going to work docs stores and where ever else they gotta get to all because the American people are tired of being stolen from and supporting lazy fat people that are so entitled they think they ain't gotta work for nothing n don't gotta follow laws which will wind up getting themselves hurt or killed..sure glad the Lord showed me the Truth hopefully He will choose you too.

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