Who Justifieth the Ungodly

[Brightfame52]

Justification by the blood/obedience of Christ.2

Its the same principle as when its written that God Loved Jacob and hated esau before they had any being or existence to do good or evil acts Rom 9:11

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

Paul emphasis here is on the fact that the children had not yet been born into physical existence, hence God is considering them without a being yet, for one cannot act in time good or evil if they dont exist in time !

So you see, those whom Christ died, while they are yet unborn, His One act of Obedience, shedding His blood, shall make them Righteous. So how could ones act of faith or believing before they existed have anything to do with making them righteous ? Thats why Paul says its by the Obedience of One ! This Truth the natural man cannot receive ! 18

 

[Brightfame52]

Justification by the blood/obedience of Christ.2


Its the same principle as when its written that God Loved Jacob and hated esau before they had any being or existence to do good or evil acts Rom 9:11

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

Paul emphasis here is on the fact that the children had not yet been born into physical existence, hence God is considering them without a being yet, for one cannot act in time good or evil if they dont exist in time !

So you see, those whom Christ died, while they are yet unborn, His One act of Obedience, shedding His blood, shall make them Righteous. So how could ones act of faith or believing before they existed have anything to do with making them righteous ? Thats why Paul says its by the Obedience of One ! This Truth the natural man cannot receive !

 

[Bill]

Who Justifieth the Ungodly

Rom 4:5

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Rom 5:6

For when we [The elect] were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

These verses tells us something about the elect ! First that by nature we are ungodly, children of wrath as others..Eph 2:3

3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Amen being children of wrath by nature as others is just another way of saying, that we were ungodly..

But one of the Great Gospel doctrines is described in Rom 4:5 is that God justifieth the ungodly..

Now , get this, The elect are Justified before God. by the obedience and righteousness of Jesus Christ [Rom 5: 18-19] while we are dead in trespasses and sins,

while we are by nature children of wrath even as others, and while by lifestyle, ungodly. While we the elect are in this very sinful condition, that we are Justified by Jesus christ blood and clothed in His imputed righteousness, even though we dont know it at the Time, but God knows it , because He is the one who did it..

Rom 8:33-34

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

You see, most false teachers today think that Rom 8 :33 applies to post conversion, but it also applies to pre conversion, for God Justifieth the ungodly, before they are converted..

Thats why its of grace. Titus 3:7

That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Its by grace because of the sinful condition we are in by nature when we are Justified before God..

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

There may be a distinction between the ungodly and the pagans of that I haven't really studied. As Paul talks in the scripture about the pagans and how the pagans can be redeemed via their hearts. He talks about a pagan may not know the law, but the law that's written in their heart will make the judgment of who they are. As a pagan can do all that God has asked us to and not fully believe in who Jesus really is as he may not even know who Jesus is. And yet still follow the laws of God written in that person's heart.
See Romans

 

[Brightfame52]

Justified solely by His Death!

This is a Gospel truth that false religionists can not receive. That those Christ died for, namely the Elect of God, that before they are born sinners and unbelievers and enemies, that solely on the merits of Christ blood shed for them, they are Justified before God, declared Righteous. They have received the sentence of absolution and forgiveness, and God will not charge their sins against them 2 Cor 5:19.

That is because God in Justice has already charged or transacted all their sins and iniquities upon their Surety Jesus Christ, Isa 53:6; 2Cor 5:21;1Pet 3:24.

This being so, God purposed not to charge their sins on them, hence Justifying them from all their sins. This transacted before they are born sinners and enemies.18

 

[Brightfame52]

Justified solely by His Death!2

Another proof from scripture that says that the Elect of God, those Christ died for are Justified before God while they are enemies and unbelievers, even before they believe, is the public discharge God gave Christ at His resurrection from the dead. Setting Christ free from death was judicially setting the Elect He died for free from death, the death owed for the wages of their sins as per Rom 6:23!

Hence it is written that Christ as Surety was delivered for [because of] our offences and was raised again for [because of] our Justification. Rom 4:25

The resurrection of Christ is Gods own public declaration that every sinner Christ died for is Justified, discharged from their sins and eternal death they deserved. 18

 

[Brightfame52]

Justified by His Blood alone apart from our believing/faith !


One of the subtle corruptions of antichrist false religion, its how they take a Spiritual Grace/ Fruit that of Faith Gal 5:22, and make it a condition that the natural man must perform in order to get Justified with God.

That is a lie.

Those Christ died for are Justified before God solely by His Blood alone through redemption ! Rom 3:24

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption[blood] that is in Christ Jesus:

The redemption here is that through His Blood according to the riches of Gods Grace Eph 1:7

7 In whom we have redemption[justification] through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

This Justification is freely, meaning without a cause. Thats what the word freely means in Rom 3:24 its the greek word dórean :

as a free gift, without payment, freely, something freely done (as gratis), i.e. without "cause"; unearned (undeserved); freely given (without cost) hence not done out of mere obligation or compulsion

But the antichrist followers say that faith, believing is the cause, hence denying scripture, and Justification solely based upon the Grace of God and the Blood of Christ ! 20

 

[Brightfame52]

Justified by Faith!

Rom 5:1

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ

When are those Christ died for Justified by Faith ?

It's when by the Power of the Holy Spirit and the Gospel of Peace one is given persuasion of their Justification before God due to the Surety Obedience of Christ on their behalf Rom 5:19. Hence the spiritual fruit of Faith Gal 5:22 giveth the Justified conscience evidence of their Justification Heb 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

 

[Brightfame52]

Justified by Faith! 2

Justification by Faith is not about being Justified by the act of one's faith but having been Justified by the object of one's faith, the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Brightfame52]

His Death alone Justifies the Ungodly, some of them !

This is where false religion goes dreadfully wrong and shows all manner of disdain and dishonor to the accomplishment of the death of Christ alone for sinners. They dont believe as to the Testimony of scripture, that those Christ died for, by His Death alone for them, apart from any obedience, faith, repentance of their own, but even as they are ungodly rebel sinners like other men and women by nature, that by His death alone they are made righteous, and totally Justified before God without any one sin laid to their charge. Now scriptures that validate this Truth are as follows, all for whom Christ died, by His death alone have had all their sins before God purged away, Heb 1:3

who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

You see that ? By Himself alone, those He died for, purged their sins. That word purged is the greek word katharismós and means:

cleansing, purifying, purification, literal, ceremonial, or moral; met: expiation.

Its a cleansing/purification which results from God removing undesirable admixtures (eliminating impurities). Its

a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ,. Hence not one charge of sin can be charged to any sinner Christ died for, as so intimates Rom 8:33-34

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

You see that ? The non charge of sin is based upon the fact that Christ died, and so dying He purged their sins, and cleansed them from all guilt of their sins, which freely Justifies them while yet they themselves are yet remaining ungodly by nature ! This is a Precious Truth false religion which glorifies man cannot receive.20

 

[Brightfame52]

His Death alone Justifies the Ungodly, some of them !2

Another scripture that evidences that those whom Christ died for are by His death alone Justified, made righteous before God, even while they are ungodly sinners in themselves is Heb 10:14

14 For by one offering[His Death] he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Christ death alone perfected forever them He died for. Thats there total Justification before God, their perfection and righteousness before God, not based upon their faith, obedience, repentance, water baptism, but soley based upon His Offering, which is His Death.

Also His death alone is what sanctifies them Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus[His Death] Christ once for all.

Heb 13:12

12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

His own blood was purposed to sanctify His People, His Church, as in Eph 5:25-26

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 that he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

Now this Sanctifying and Perfecting of those Christ died for is a fact before God even while those He died for are in a ungodly, unbelieving, and rebellious state by nature, because its solely premised on the Offering of Christ !

 

[faithman]

Jesus death, resurrection and ascension have completely paid the price for all sins for the human race. Faith in Jesus believing in your heart and being raised from the dead brings salvation and also we become sons and daughter of God. I am complete in him who is the head of all principality and powers!!! Glory to God!

 

[Brightfame52]

Jesus death, resurrection and ascension have completely paid the price for all sins for the human race.

False. else the entire human race would be Justified

 

[Brightfame52]

To be cleansed from the guilt of sins by expiating death of Christ as per Heb 1:3, means Justification before God. That also means to be declared righteous before God, even though we be in unbelief and rebellion against God. 20

 

[farmerjoe]

False. else the entire human race would be Justified

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world
1 John 2:2.

 

[farmerjoe]

2 Cor. 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

 

[Brightfame52]

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world
1 John 2:2.

not world universally, but world of all sorts of men indifferently, Gentiles as well as Jews;

 

[Brightfame52]

2 Cor. 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

not world universally, but world of all sorts of men indifferently, Gentiles as well as Jews;