Home-deliverance from demons

[zeth4500]

It is the primary reason why I have begun setting blessings on my writing before posting anything.

interesting, uh one thing i came across some time ago was that.. we are not to give blessings to those who arent followers of christ, your take on that one? naturally on a christian forum it makes sense, or when speaking to a christian audience, it can only make sense.. but for the general repentless folk?

I can't see into your mind, I can't understand I can see everybody else's mind but I can't see into yours.

haha, yea these newage folks, i have always despised them. theyre immature to put it mildly. any sane psychologist would agree that just neglecting all your emotions and trying to be happy is turning yourself into a landmine

They can't see into your mind as far as your intimate thoughts

speaking of that i recently saw evidence that they have nanotech that can to some extent look into our minds, it interacts with neurons and beams the data to wireless towers and to data collection centers, they were making publications on these things as far back as 2005 and surely had concepts long before this, the devil cant read our minds, demons cant but they can talk to us

psychic readings actually get their information

im convinced doing a psychic reading basically lets a devil enter you

And we experience this infection of the darkness as sleepiness, distractions, anything that comes to us like a sinful thought. Anything to get us away from thinking about God

yup, i bring my bible and just yesterday my wife wanted to read the bible as the priest was having a speech, i said no and for 10 minutes the devil tempted my wife so badly she almost just grabbed it out of my lap, shes quite puzzled about how real these things actually are, luckily they tend to speak to us in a very recognizable way, i suppose when another demon comes about and tries to meddle with us that voice speaking to us may differ
they have a very insistent pressure in how they speak "just DO it" "no one will know.. you deserve it"

What gets me all these peep claim they casting out but dont bind that evil to nothing

well thats me, what should i bind it to?

Ive seen people come back from the dead yet i know it was not them ya it was the shell like the flesh but the spirit it was not them

thats straight out of a movie, i can imagine how the look in their eyes was something no one wanted to point out haha.

 

[Twistie]

interesting, uh one thing i came across some time ago was that.. we are not to give blessings to those who arent followers of christ, your take on that one? naturally on a christian forum it makes sense, or when speaking to a christian audience, it can only make sense.. but for the general repentless folk?


haha, yea these newage folks, i have always despised them. theyre immature to put it mildly. any sane psychologist would agree that just neglecting all your emotions and trying to be happy is turning yourself into a landmine


speaking of that i recently saw evidence that they have nanotech that can to some extent look into our minds, it interacts with neurons and beams the data to wireless towers and to data collection centers, they were making publications on these things as far back as 2005 and surely had concepts long before this, the devil cant read our minds, demons cant but they can talk to us


im convinced doing a psychic reading basically lets a devil enter you


yup, i bring my bible and just yesterday my wife wanted to read the bible as the priest was having a speech, i said no and for 10 minutes the devil tempted my wife so badly she almost just grabbed it out of my lap, shes quite puzzled about how real these things actually are, luckily they tend to speak to us in a very recognizable way, i suppose when another demon comes about and tries to meddle with us that voice speaking to us may differ
they have a very insistent pressure in how they speak "just DO it" "no one will know.. you deserve it"


well thats me, what should i bind it to?


thats straight out of a movie, i can imagine how the look in their eyes was something no one wanted to point out haha.

Ill tell you this it destroyed all attachments to each other that we once had..
I knew it wasnt the person that came back by its actions alone imagine trying to mourn the one ya love while the shell of them sat there right in front of ya.. i don't know what came back but it new each n every one of us very well new exactly how to cause pain and separation and used us to help it live day to day for quite a while..
Personally i believe it was that demon that roamed the home our family lived in for many many generations we were warned to sell it when my granpa had passed he warned us we just did not heed to it..
Perhaps because of the good memories we all had in it perhaps just too ignorant to understand what my pop pop was saying

Hope alls well .

 

[joestue]

I hope this gives you guys some help in your work that the Lord has you doing. May God bless all of you

thanks Bill i really appreciate your posts.

The reason that this is the most frustrating one for anyone that does Deliverance of any kind is because the demons are aware of your presence coming to get them, and they will remove themselves from either the place / building or the person that they're inhabiting. And they will wait for you to do your thing and then after you leave they return

6 years ago when dealing with my wife's issues, i sensed i was praying in spirit with another woman to bind her demons. as soon as i formed the intention in my heart that it was time to take her to this woman's house, the demons in her started acting up.

We went to her house and the demons were not able to set foot on her property, which allowed my friend to communicate with the real person, not the arguments in her mind, which was effective.

Do you have an update to that story? To his unbelieving situation?

so that guy has only showed up to church a few times, the current worship leader who he is friends with has left for another ministry and so i don't really expect to see him again.

Did you pray?

i have been for some time.
This morning i saw her in a particular pose and was told she gave herself to a demon.
This would have happened as far back as 3 decades ago, and it likely concerns the experience I had about 15 months ago now where i separated her spirit which was intermingled with a demon.

Since then i don't sense a particular "spiritual energy" in her, which i have only felt in real life in 4 people elsewhere:

The last one was a girl, she was out having pizza with 5 other young men, they were in the underage section of the pub. She made intentional eye contact with me from across the parking lot, like she knew that i knew what she was doing. I sort of complained to God that i don't want to play whack-a-mole with demons.

The other was a woman I saw at a bar, she was wearing a unique attention getting green cape, not sexual, like robbin hood lol. She had two boyfriends with her.
As soon as i walked in she made intentional sustained eye contact with me, I sat down in a place I could watch her and thought to myself "i wonder what is going to happen"
The men left her to pay the bill! She was a bit frantic trying to figure out where they went, it was entertaining to watch.

The third woman was mid 40's, walking with some man in his 60's, probably her sugar daddy.

The fourth is my local politician who I think "knew" my ex too.
I did sense a demon behind his political "vote for me" signs once. I told it to leave him alone and the next week at church he looked haggard and his fiance wasn't with him. He has a kid now with a different woman, someone who didn't look me in the eye with a certain spiritual twinkle.


So anyhow, i suspect if i did successfully remove this spirit from my ex then men aren't going to be willing to pay her 2-4 grand a month to uh, exist. i think she is living with a woman now.

It seems the Lord did indeed tell me to marry a prostitute, but i don't know if she will ever return to me, and uh, i think she is my half sister so.. there's that. she is basically past child bearing age now so, it may be that God wants to rescue her original spiritual annointing he gave her.. or something of that nature.

meaning she was supposed to be a prophet, not a prostitute.

 

[backNforth]

Axle grease

Ha! A wonderful tool!

And yes, they will jump in and jump out. One of my go-to's is to bind them to inactivity, which allows me to proceed...

Forgiveness is paramount all around.

I have never done a "full possession" deliverance, although plenty of the oppressed have manifested at my presence.

"Moon rituals" can ritualistically install a devil into an unborn baby. It's all about who has authority over that baby i.e. who let the unclean spirit into the family line.

we are not to give blessings to those who arent followers of christ, your take on that one?

"Blessings" aren't necessarily something "nice." Blessings can be something that the person may find uncomfortable or unpleasant, as well. And we are told to not cast our pearls before swine, as they may turn on us.

any sane psychologist would agree

I'm skeptical about the world's psych's.

the devil cant read our minds, demons cant but they can talk to us

The tech is now there; they can "read our minds." It's a technological feat; it's physical and not miraculous. And the tech is consecrated to Satan, IOW, it's accursed.

im convinced doing a psychic reading basically lets a devil enter you

Absolutely. A wide open door.

"just DO it"

Nike, pagan Greek goddess of victory.

you deserve it"

McDonald's promo.

What gets me all these peep claim they casting out but dont bind that evil to nothing.

Yep, without any follow-through, the bound just stay put.

it was the shell like the flesh but the spirit it was not them

Can you say zombie or clone? I believe we'll be seeing a lot more of those creatures as this winds out. We are being programmed to accept their presence because Satan needs the bodies to inhabit for his end times battle against the return of Christ.

new exactly how to cause pain and separation and used us to help it live day to day for quite a while..

They "live" only to suck the true life out of us.

Personally i believe it was that demon that roamed the home our family lived in for many many generations

Generational spirits have been a major item on my platter since my wife's side is free masonic and Jezebel.

we were warned to sell it when my granpa had passed he warned us we just did not heed to it..
Perhaps because of the good memories we all had in it perhaps just too ignorant to understand what my pop pop was saying

You nailed it. It's just plain spiritual ignorance. And so we all suffer for that.

I sort of complained to God that i don't want to play whack-a-mole with demons.

lol But hey, we are to glorify the King with our respective callings...

meaning she was supposed to be a prophet, not a prostitute.

So much of that is happening now and only going to get worse as ppl do not know who they are or what their calling is.

 

[Bill]

interesting, uh one thing i came across some time ago was that.. we are not to give blessings to those who arent followers of christ, your take on that one? naturally on a christian forum it makes sense, or when speaking to a christian audience, it can only make sense.. but for the general repentless folk?


haha, yea these newage folks, i have always despised them. theyre immature to put it mildly. any sane psychologist would agree that just neglecting all your emotions and trying to be happy is turning yourself into a landmine


speaking of that i recently saw evidence that they have nanotech that can to some extent look into our minds, it interacts with neurons and beams the data to wireless towers and to data collection centers, they were making publications on these things as far back as 2005 and surely had concepts long before this, the devil cant read our minds, demons cant but they can talk to us


im convinced doing a psychic reading basically lets a devil enter you


yup, i bring my bible and just yesterday my wife wanted to read the bible as the priest was having a speech, i said no and for 10 minutes the devil tempted my wife so badly she almost just grabbed it out of my lap, shes quite puzzled about how real these things actually are, luckily they tend to speak to us in a very recognizable way, i suppose when another demon comes about and tries to meddle with us that voice speaking to us may differ
they have a very insistent pressure in how they speak "just DO it" "no one will know.. you deserve it"


well thats me, what should i bind it to?


thats straight out of a movie, i can imagine how the look in their eyes was something no one wanted to point out haha.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I don't normally do this breaking up the conversation, I think it takes away from the flow of what someone's trying to say. But in this case I need to. I hope you understand.

You wrote, "interesting, uh one thing i came across some time ago was that.. we are not to give blessings to those who arent followers of christ, your take on that one? naturally on a christian forum it makes sense, or when speaking to a christian audience, it can only make sense.. but for the general repentless folk?"

I think this is a little bit misrepresenting of what is meant by that phrase about Not Giving blessing to a non-believer.

Okay so to give the blessing for instance of marriage to someone that's a non-believer would be wrong and that's correct, it would also be wrong to expect someone who is a non-believer to receive the Blessed bread and Blessed wine, and expect them to receive it in the same way that we should receive it.

So in this case you would be absolutely correct.

But as far as giving a general blessing, "may Jesus bless you" as an example, is fine to give to anyone. Typically if a person tells me that there are a non-believer when it comes to this type of blessing. I tell them no one is perfect.

Blessing a person in the name of Jesus is always a good thing no matter who that person is. When God created man, God created all of us to be his children. This was the expectation that God had from the beginning that we would all be his children.

But God also gave us a free will, and in so doing gave us the ability to choose if we are going to do good or evil.

I know that among Christians we would say that you have to confess that Jesus is Lord to be saved. But I tell you that a person can confess that Jesus is Lord by doing the will of God and not even knowing who God is.

There are many people in the world who will say out loud that Jesus is the son of God, and they do it not because they believe it. But because they feel it's their escape clause. Their heart is in the wrong place, and they still say it.

Members of the Klu Klux Klan, would say that Jesus is God and still kill people without batting an eye.

The Nazis, many of them were religious, they would go to church sing praise to God and still go to work killing people at concentration camps.

People can say all day long that Jesus is the Lord, but it doesn't really mean that they believe in Jesus or that they actually follow the will of God.
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"speaking of that i recently saw evidence that they have nanotech that can to some extent look into our minds, it interacts with neurons and beams the data to wireless towers and to data collection centers, they were making publications on these things as far back as 2005 and surely had concepts long before this, the devil cant read our minds, demons cant but they can talk to us"

In talking about the inner dialogue with God versus the outer mind. Only the conversation with the inner dialogue with God takes place between you and God. No one can see that. But the outer part of the Mind can be manipulated, if you're not careful.

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"well thats me, what should i bind it to?" You were asking about binding a demon. And asking what should I bind it to

In the concept of binding the demon what you're doing is your binding his mouth that he cannot speak, you're binding the spirit from running away from you, in the name of Jesus I'd bind you. You're not really binding the spirit to a post or something like that, you're binding the spirit to itself that it cannot speak out to you or communicate with other spirits. Or that it cannot curse at you.

I hope this helps you

 

[Bill]

thanks Bill i really appreciate your posts.

6 years ago when dealing with my wife's issues, i sensed i was praying in spirit with another woman to bind her demons. as soon as i formed the intention in my heart that it was time to take her to this woman's house, the demons in her started acting up.

We went to her house and the demons were not able to set foot on her property, which allowed my friend to communicate with the real person, not th

The person that left e arguments in her mind, which was effective.

so that guy has only showed up to church a few times, the current worship leader who he is friends with has left for another ministry and so i don't really expect to see him again.


i have been for some time.
This morning i saw her in a particular pose and was told she gave herself to a demon.
This would have happened as far back as 3 decades ago, and it likely concerns the experience I had about 15 months ago now where i separated her spirit which was intermingled with a demon.

Since then i don't sense a particular "spiritual energy" in her, which i have only felt in real life in 4 people elsewhere:

The last one was a girl, she was out having pizza with 5 other young men, they were in the underage section of the pub. She made intentional eye contact with me from across the parking lot, like she knew that i knew what she was doing. I sort of complained to God that i don't want to play whack-a-mole with demons.

The other was a woman I saw at a bar, she was wearing a unique attention getting green cape, not sexual, like robbin hood lol. She had two boyfriends with her.
As soon as i walked in she made intentional sustained eye contact with me, I sat down in a place I could watch her and thought to myself "i wonder what is going to happen"
The men left her to pay the bill! She was a bit frantic trying to figure out where they went, it was entertaining to watch.

The third woman was mid 40's, walking with some man in his 60's, probably her sugar daddy.

The fourth is my local politician who I think "knew" my ex too.
I did sense a demon behind his political "vote for me" signs once. I told it to leave him alone and the next week at church he looked haggard and his fiance wasn't with him. He has a kid now with a different woman, someone who didn't look me in the eye with a certain spiritual twinkle.


So anyhow, i suspect if i did successfully remove this spirit from my ex then men aren't going to be willing to pay her 2-4 grand a month to uh, exist. i think she is living with a woman now.

It seems the Lord did indeed tell me to marry a prostitute, but i don't know if she will ever return to me, and uh, i think she is my half sister so.. there's that. she is basically past child bearing age now so, it may be that God wants to rescue her original spiritual annointing he gave her.. or something of that nature.

meaning she was supposed to be a prophet, not a prostitute.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

You have a lot of statements in here that I want to address. You really have a good gift to discernment, I strongly encourage you to keep working on it so you can really get it down to a pinpoint accuracy.

The person that left, you're going to have to encounter again. This I already know. But this time you're going to become more prepared much stronger and more prepared than you are now.

So this is one of the reasons why it's really important to bind spirits and cast them to Jesus so that they cannot come back to haunt you basically. If you just cast a spirit out then it goes to the next available person that has a sinful past and they will just keep on going that way. But you want to get the spirit off Planet so to speak. And although the binding only lasts for about 6 months. At least they're off planet and in hell for that period of time.

I wrote elsewhere and maybe here before I can't remember, mind gets a little forgetful sometimes. That it really works great if you're being pestered by demons when you're trying to pray or something, if you find them where they are with you and demand in the name of Jesus that they join you in prayer for whoever it is that you're praying for. They really don't like that. Because the very person that they're trying to dissuade you from praying for in the first place they're now forced to pray for. Lol. No I'm not trying to torture them that's not the whole meaning of that. The focus of it is the more prayer for that person the better off that person is. Plus it stops the darkness from bugging you.

When you're doing a Deliverance of either structure like a building or a person and you have the problem with oppression going on where the demon is jumping in and out of the person or the structure. You can do this. Again you have to remember that anything is possible spiritually

A friend of mine who is an angel told me one time that when we were dealing with a particular demon that kept jumping in and out of a building, he said using plaster works great. Basically we ended up plugging up all the holes so that they couldn't do that and then commanded the spirit to come in so that we could remove it. And in removing it we bound it and cast it to Jesus for him to do with it as he would.

So yes you can plug up all the holes in a person asking the Lord to seal that person so that the demon cannot jump in and out of the body. And then you have to command that the Spirit come into the body so that it can be cast out. And of course again you have to bind the spirit and send it to Jesus

No from experience I can tell you that when you remove a demon off planet Earth to hell basically. They are removed for roughly 6 months. And then you have to deal with them again.

There is something that all of you can do but you have to want to do it for one and you have have to also ask the Lord to let you do it. This is something the Lord has asked me to do and I do this almost every day. What that is is the Lord asked me to put the whole earth into my heart and to take on the sin of everyone and then give it to the Lord.

Remember Jesus wants us to be like him. Of course I'm Not Jesus. But I try to be like Jesus and that means taking on the sin of the world receiving it and offering it up to Jesus.

When the Lord cleanses me of the sin of the world I think of it like a body wash, as the wash is on the inside as well as the outside.

 

[joestue]

The person that left, you're going to have to encounter again. This I already know. But this time you're going to become more prepared much stronger and more prepared than you are now.

So there several different people you could be picking up on here.

My church's worship director, off to another country and yes that's almost certainly temporary. my wife actually discerned some things and then straight up accidentally asked me: "is she even a christian?"

I'm like... uh, you might be onto something....

She is actually the first person i've discerned her own personal motives in a matter, and that information fit her lifestyle and what i had already been shown, and if she isn't actually born again that might explain a few things. also possible her husband isn't either.

 

[Bill]

So there several different people you could be picking up on here.

My church's worship director, off to another country and yes that's almost certainly temporary. my wife actually discerned some things and then straight up accidentally asked me: "is she even a christian?"

I'm like... uh, you might be onto something....

She is actually the first person i've discerned her own personal motives in a matter, and that information fit her lifestyle and what i had already been shown, and if she isn't actually born again that might explain a few things. also possible her husband isn't either.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

This is who I was talking about when you asked me about this person

"so that guy has only showed up to church a few times, the current worship leader who he is friends with has left for another ministry and so i don't really expect to see him again."

Whoever the guy is, is the person that you're going to see again.

 

[joestue]

Whoever the guy is, is the person that you're going to see again.

interesting.

and also concerning. i'm concerned we may end up with another mixture of christians and non christians for a worship team.

 

[backNforth]

There are many people in the world who will say out loud that Jesus is the son of God, and they do it not because they believe it. But because they feel it's their escape clause. Their heart is in the wrong place, and they still say it.

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. (Matthew. 15:8).

If you just cast a spirit out then it goes to the next available person that has a sinful past and they will just keep on going that way. But you want to get the spirit off Planet so to speak. And although the binding only lasts for about 6 months. At least they're off planet and in hell for that period of time.

When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. (Luke 11:24).

I dunno about the 6-month time period, but I do know it will come back - often sooner than later.

Again you have to remember that anything is possible spiritually

Indeed.

 

[Bill]

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. (Matthew. 15:8).


When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. (Luke 11:24).

I dunno about the 6-month time period, but I do know it will come back - often sooner than later.


Indeed.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

In regards to the 6 months time frame, it depends on a couple different factors but often that's about the case of it.

I used to do a lot more spiritual warfare than I do know, that is working directly with the angels in spiritual combat against the darkness. But whenever we encountered the darkness and finally cast them to Jesus. They return of the same Darkness was usually about 6 months.

Yeah I know a revolving door. I want to tell you guys about something but it's going to take a lot of believing to believe it and in some cases some of you will utterly reject it.

 

[Bill]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

This is something that's going to take a lot of faith to believe, for those of you who have the gifts of discernment I ask you to use that in listening to this account of my spiritual experiences.

After doing about 20 or 30 years of spiritual warfare I really got a little bit frustrated with the fact that fighting the same demons over and over again was no end scenario. I felt to myself there has to be some way to change this.

I have to tell you a couple things about myself that I have not shared here. Now I have told you. LOL I have to do another blessing first.

Dear father bless all who listen to this keep us safe from the darkness and Let Jesus always be in our hearts amen.

Okay so to tell you a little bit about myself, I have already told many here that I am one of the Two Witnesses. I'm not afraid to share this with you as it is a truth. One of the Two Golden Lampstands that stands before the Lord.

The Lord allows me to explore the gifts as much as I care to. I have a great amount of authority that I don't use at this point. Authority over stars and moons and whatnot, I don't use it because I'm not called to use it at this time.

But the Lord also allows me to ponder things. Remember your spirituality is in your heart, and your faith comes from your heart. And anything in the Lord is possible and I mean anything.

So I had thoughts in my mind that I was pondering. One of those had to do with fallen angels. Is it possible that they can be forgiven.

In the Catholic Church it's a 50/50 deal you will either have people who will say no way or you'll have people who say maybe but absolutely is not really a thing.

So I went through the scripture, and in the beginning it says that Lucifer and a third of the Angels fell. But if you look at Revelations it says that Lucifer and his followers go into the abyss. So there's a possibility. At least that's what it was to me a possibility.

And there was something else that always struck me odd, the way that Jesus would deal with demons. It always seemed to me that he was showing Mercy. You can't kill Demons by putting them in pigs. You can only kill the pig. The demons would say are you going to kill us before our time or are you going to destroy us before our time. And Jesus response was never that he was going to destroy him at all he would just tell him to be quiet.

So there were questions in my mind. And then there was the spiritual warfare that I was experiencing. We encountered creatures that Satan would send it into cities.

Now you have to remember only God can create. And Satan hates God because of that. And he also hates mankind because we are co-creators with God. Example would be children. Angels can't have children. So when the understanding of cloning came about it wasn't too long later that the devil was also cloning. It's about the only way I can explain it because he would take something that was partly demon and partly human and make something from it.

I have encountered a lot of his work and it's really hard to describe. These Blobby kind of things that have one eye and I'm sort of a mouth and just really weird. There's no mind, there's no Spirit but yet it exists

One of these things that we encountered is extremely evil. And as much as we hacked at this thing with our swords, every piece of it was just as evil as the whole. The only way that we could fight against it was with love. The swords nothing worked except for just love.

So the thought kept going to me about that about can demons be forgiven.

I was at my apartment talking with some angels when a single demon attacked me. I saw it a mile away before it even got close and we captured it and I told it why it's a suicide run. And it said to me I just want you to stop thinking about God for one second.

I asked it do you ever think about before the fall, do you ever think you want to go back to that. And it said to me it said that's impossible I can't go back. And I told the demon that nothing is impossible with God.

I could actually feel the regret in the demon spiritually of his choice to go with Lucifer.

So I went to God the Father in heaven and I took the Fallen Angel With Me. I had Angels barring my way, and using the authority of the witness I told them to step aside. And they did.

I took the Fallen Angel before God and ask God to forgive him of his sins. And we went back and forth and I stood before God defending the Fallen spirit. Finally saying to God, if his sin is so great give it to me and I will take his place.

The father said to me to settle down. And he took the Fallen Angel and then I left.

It was some months later that I was in my apartment and I was talking to some angels, and I felt the presents of something come into the apartment. Now I recognize the difference between demons and angels and I know the difference between different types of angels. And I know the feeling I get from each God the Father Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I've even experienced the Trinity as One. But this particular Sensation that I had was completely different than anything I'd ever experienced before. The angel that was before me was the one that I took before God. He was Reborn as an Angel of God.

What I discovered was that yes Jesus died for our sins, but it's humans that have to be willing to forgive the darkness.

Now there are those fallen angels that have no wish to be reborn. Yeah believe it or not, I have encountered demons who have no interest in becoming Reborn.

But since that time I have seen thousands if not Millions of Fallen Angels become Reborn as new Angels.

 

[joestue]

Bill you have had quite the experience, I don't know what to make of it.

Something you might be inclined to pray about:

About 8 months ago I dare say I heard Jesus call me by the name Elisha.
About 12 hours later someone posted a thread about how his spiritual master revealed to him that Jesus was the reincarnation of Elisha.
His posts got deleted and so i messaged him, and i sensed a demon in him mocking me.
I was tempted to reply back, "Jesus can't be Elisha because I am"
I did not, instead i tell him "ask your spiritual master what is the name of the spirit that called me by that name, 12 hours before you made your post?"

He replies back, "Yeshua" and that shuts up. Had nothing more to say.

now, i get that demons lie all the time. but when they find out information that makes them angry.. they do things like that.


I am left wondering by this whole experience, if i am operating in a return of the spirit and power of Elisha, which was a redemptive ministry. It might explain some things.

 

[Bill]

Bill you have had quite the experience, I don't know what to make of it.

Something you might be inclined to pray about:

About 8 months ago I dare say I heard Jesus call me by the name Elisha.
About 12 hours later someone posted a thread about how his spiritual master revealed to him that Jesus was the reincarnation of Elisha.
His posts got deleted and so i messaged him, and i sensed a demon in him mocking me.
I was tempted to reply back, "Jesus can't be Elisha because I am"
I did not, instead i tell him "ask your spiritual master what is the name of the spirit that called me by that name, 12 hours before you made your post?"

He replies back, "Yeshua" and that shuts up. Had nothing more to say.

now, i get that demons lie all the time. but when they find out information that makes them angry.. they do things like that.


I am left wondering by this whole experience, if i am operating in a return of the spirit and power of Elisha, which was a redemptive ministry. It might explain some things.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

There was a saying that was once pretty popular. Demons tell the truth 90% of the time and then 10% of the time they lie and you have to try to figure it out when they're lying

When Lucifer and Jesus spoke to each other in the desert, Lucifer did tell the truth to a point. He quoted the scripture which in itself is Jesus own words, but the intent and the way that he brought it across was a lie. To which Jesus responded that man cannot live on bread alone etc.

So we can see that the demons will speak truth, although they are fathers of Lies and they will manipulate how they respond to you to try to confuse you. It is their whole Focus to confuse the truth.

When we look at Elijah, and Elisha, and Moses and David. And when God calls us by these names. It isn't exactly that you are that person, what it is is that you have the spirit of that person.

When Jesus was talking about John the Baptist saying that John the Baptist Was Elijah. He wasn't saying that John the Baptist is the same person as Elijah, but he came in the spirit of Elijah. In that John the Baptist had the spirit of Elijah in him.

This goes further in to what Paul was talking about what is it to be a true Jew. We do not need to be Jews or from the family of Israel to be Jews. It's because we have the spirit of what it is to really be a Jew in us.

A true Jew is someone whose heart is circumcised. A true Christian is someone whose heart is circumcised. Because that you are in love with God, you are a Jew and a Christian all at the same time you are what God wanted everyone to become a child of the most high.

When God refers to you as Elisha, it means more to me probably than it meant to you because I don't think you know the fullness of that person. I would encourage you to read about him in the scripture even more. Elisha, was the bearer of faith of his time. The Holy Spirit worked through him mightily.

I think that you will find, that you will feel the presence of Elisha in your life as he is walking with you. If you allow him he can teach you and help you learn depth of the Holy Spirit. And to trust in God even more.

People forget simple truths. Because people are so caught up with the whole concept "oh I don't want to be like a Catholic", "oh you are doing things you must be Catholic". People need to get that out of their heads, it is only a trap of the devil.

Walking with the spirit has been going on since the time of Abraham. Doing things with angels have been going on since the time of Abraham and before.

We forget things like, the body dies yes. But our spirit and our soul are still alive in Christ. So when a person has passed on like Elijah and Elisha and Moses and King David, they're not dead. Because they are alive with Christ. And it doesn't matter that they didn't know who he was in their heads, what matters is they knew who he was in their hearts