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“7For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second. 8For finding fault with them, He says,
“BEHOLD, DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD,
WHEN I WILL EFFECT A NEW COVENANT
WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH;

9NOT LIKE THE COVENANT WHICH I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS
ON THE DAY WHEN I TOOK THEM BY THE HAND
TO LEAD THEM OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT;
FOR THEY DID NOT CONTINUE IN MY COVENANT,
AND I DID NOT CARE FOR THEM, SAYS THE LORD.

10“FOR THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL
AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD:
I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR MINDS,
AND I WILL WRITE THEM UPON THEIR HEARTS.
AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD,
AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.

11“AND THEY SHALL NOT TEACH EVERYONE HIS FELLOW CITIZEN,
AND EVERYONE HIS BROTHER, SAYING, ‘KNOW THE LORD,’
FOR ALL SHALL KNOW ME,
FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST OF THEM.

12“FOR I WILL BE MERCIFUL TO THEIR INIQUITIES,
AND I WILL REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE.”

13When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.”

PS. I am not typing in all caps in a portion of this Particular text of scripture. The reason it is in all caps there, it is highly express in the “Original Copied Manuscript” showing Emphasis.

I am not shouting there.

PS. That does not mean everybody but it means “ALL” who loves me and keeps my Commandments “ and All of Those WHO loves me and Keeps my commandments will be saved! Why, because My Father who is Greater Than “I” Will Keep Them!

And we must Remember that a “Finite mind” cannot understand The “INFINITE GOD”

The answer is simple, without complete faith in all of the Word of YHWH they are Christian Wanna-Bees.

Samson2020 said:

I'd say considering my age and the time line I see for the second coming theres a really good probability of a yes. How bout you?

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Nope. There is no death in Jesus.
John 6:
49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”

So, Jesus clearly said, you don't have to die like the fathers in the wilderness.
Should we open up Romans 8? . . I Cor 15? . . Phil 3? Hebrews 7? II Peter 1? Rev 21?

Those that quote Heb 9:27 never quote the next verse.
Christianity has "made a covenant with death and sheol" - Isa 28:15, which is why their "tables are full of vomit and there is no place clean" - Isa 28:8.

There is no timeline for the second coming but now. Thus, "Behold i stand at the door and knock, if any many hear my voice and opens the door, I WILL COME INTO HIM AND SUP WITH HIM" - REV 3:20

Alley Oop said:

Nope. There is no death in Jesus.
John 6:
49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”

So, Jesus clearly said, you don't have to die like the fathers in the wilderness.
Should we open up Romans 8? . . I Cor 15? . . Phil 3? Hebrews 7? II Peter 1? Rev 21?

Those that quote Heb 9:27 never quote the next verse.
Christianity has "made a covenant with death and sheol" - Isa 28:15, which is why their "tables are full of vomit and there is no place clean" - Isa 28:8.

There is no timeline for the second coming but now. Thus, "Behold i stand at the door and knock, if any many hear my voice and opens the door, I WILL COME INTO HIM AND SUP WITH HIM" - REV 3:20

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I was referring to my flesh as it cannot inherit the kingdom of God. When the original Apostles were martyred, some had their heads removed. They in the flesh died.

Alley Oop said:

Nope. There is no death in Jesus.
John 6:
49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”

So, Jesus clearly said, you don't have to die like the fathers in the wilderness.
Should we open up Romans 8? . . I Cor 15? . . Phil 3? Hebrews 7? II Peter 1? Rev 21?

Those that quote Heb 9:27 never quote the next verse.
Christianity has "made a covenant with death and sheol" - Isa 28:15, which is why their "tables are full of vomit and there is no place clean" - Isa 28:8.

There is no timeline for the second coming but now. Thus, "Behold i stand at the door and knock, if any many hear my voice and opens the door, I WILL COME INTO HIM AND SUP WITH HIM" - REV 3:20

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So then you do not believe in the DAY OF THE LORD where every eye shall see Jesus coming in the clouds to take over the kingdoms of the world?

Samson2020 said:

So then you do not believe in the DAY OF THE LORD where every eye shall see Jesus coming in the clouds to take over the kingdoms of the world?

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In the flesh, only those alive at the time will see that on earth.

Samson2020 said:

So then you do not believe in the DAY OF THE LORD where every eye shall see Jesus coming in the clouds to take over the kingdoms of the world?

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no, not the unspiritual interpretation you subscribe to.
i could elaborate, but don't want my pearls cast before the 'outer court ghosts'

so, you're just dismissing John 6:49-51 then?
all others here in the past have too.
just like when all the disciple left him in John 6:66.
notice 666 in John 6:66?

Samson2020 said:

So then you do not believe in the DAY OF THE LORD where every eye shall see Jesus coming in the clouds to take over the kingdoms of the world?

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no, not the unspiritual interpretation you subscribe to.
i could elaborate, but don't want my pearls cast before the 'outer court ghosts'

so, you're just dismissing John 6:49-51 then?
all others here in the past have too.
just like when all the disciple left him in John 6:66.
notice 666 in John 6:66?

I forget the order of events but you seem to be putting the first and second resurrection ahead of Jesus return.

Unless "every eye" means only those of the first resurrection. The second is after the 1000 years. So when do they see it?

joestue said:

I forget the order of events but you seem to be putting the first and second resurrection ahead of Jesus return.

Unless "every eye" means only those of the first resurrection. The second is after the 1000 years. So when do they see it?

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the natural man receives not the things of the spirit - i cor 2:14
you are thinking natural eyes, as all natural minded mortals do.

Alley Oop said:

no, not the unspiritual interpretation you subscribe to.
i could elaborate, but don't want my pearls cast before the 'outer court ghosts'

so, you're just dismissing John 6:49-51 then?
all others here in the past have too.
just like when all the disciple left him in John 6:66.
notice 666 in John 6:66?

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Phl 1:21 For me to live is Christ, and to DIE is GAIN.
1 Thes 4:15...........that we which are alive unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

I would add that in order for there to be a resurrection of the dead the dead must be dead, physically. Whether the first resurrection or the second.

A far as John 6:49-51 Asleep with the flesh turning to dust is dead in the physical. We are alive within the spirit but the spiritual thing that we shall be is not known until the resurrection
when the corruptible puts on incorruption and the MORTAL puts on immortality.
Even Jesus was dead for 3 days, physically, why should I not believe the same?
1 Co 15:36-37......That which thou sowest is not quickened except it die. Most of 1 Co 15 is a good read for the subject.
And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body which shall be, but bare grain...............

Samson2020 said:

Phl 1:21 For me to live is Christ, and to DIE is GAIN.
1 Thes 4:15...........that we which are alive unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

I would add that in order for there to be a resurrection of the dead the dead must be dead, physically. Whether the first resurrection or the second.

A far as John 6:49-51 Asleep with the flesh turning to dust is dead in the physical. We are alive within the spirit but the spiritual thing that we shall be is not known until the resurrection
when the corruptible puts on incorruption and the MORTAL puts on immortality.
Even Jesus was dead for 3 days, physically, why should I not believe the same?
1 Co 15:36-37......That which thou sowest is not quickened except it die. Most of 1 Co 15 is a good read for the subject.
And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body which shall be, but bare grain...............

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yup, another so-called universalist in the "wide gate to death" - matthew 7:13

Alley Oop said:

have you picked out your coffin yet? or will you be cremated?

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That may depend of who martyrs me. But truly that is up to the Lord. I just offer up my body as a living sacrifice.

Samson2020 said:

That may depend of who martyrs me. But truly that is up to the Lord. I just offer up my body as a living sacrifice.

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no you don't, otherwise you'd be transformed by the renewing of your mind (rom 12:1-2) -
quote the verse in context.

You know there has already been a resurrection? Mat 27:53 iirc.

Those folks are not going to be on the earth at the time of Jesus second return. So what about them. When do the witness it

Alley Oop said:

no you don't, otherwise you'd be transformed by the renewing of your mind (rom 12:1-2) -
quote the verse in context.

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Transformed by the renewing of your mind is simply putting on the mind of Christ, who died, and getting rid of or killing the carnal mind that you have had since in the womb,
which is what made you at odds with God.

Your reading a bit more into that than is really there.

Samson2020 said:

Transformed by the renewing of your mind is simply putting on the mind of Christ, who died, and getting rid of or killing the carnal mind that you have had since in the womb,
which is what made you at odds with God.

Your reading a bit more into that than is really there.

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the mind of Christ is Immortal, not mortal.
salvation is "spirit soul and BODY" - I Thess 5:23
you've got the univeralist thing down only part way.

joestue said:

You know there has already been a resurrection? Mat 27:53 iirc.

Those folks are not going to be on the earth at the time of Jesus second return. So what about them. When do the witness it

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keep your eyes in the sky, saying "lo here and lo there" - Luke 17:23.

Can't answer a simple question can you?

joestue said:

Can't answer a simple question can you?

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spoke too late, eh? lol
i can answer simple questions, but you can't handle the simple answer.