70 Weeks of Daniel Prophecy - Already Fulfilled or Not?

[Sue D.]

@Rockerduck yes I was asking about the first 3.5 years, I do not believe the great tribulations start until the antichrist is actually revealed and I think the two witnesses come in the first half, not sure.

Regarding your post #138 - the Antichrist presents himself after the first 3 1/2 yrs. He ushers I the Great Tribulation...the next 3.5 yrs.


Chapter 10 -- the little book and then chapter 11 -- first three verses. The two witnesses and how they will be dressed and what they will be doing. Vs 4 talks about the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth. Then look at Zechariah 4: 1-3 and then vs 11-14.

As for the When -- can't really tell.

 

[Bill]

@ Bill regarding your post 133 the first seal vs 2 "and I looked , and behold a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him , and he went out conquering and to conquer.". No mention of the direction he was going.

Where in Ezekiel do you find the directions that they are going.

Not sure why I was thinking Ezekiel but it's in Zachariah chapter 6 verse 6

The red horses are going out to the country of the East, the black horses are going out to the country of the north, the White are going to the country of the West and the Piebald are going out to the country of the South

 

[Sue D.]

@Bill ,-- I'm looking at the Zechariah 6:6 passage. vs 2 says with the first chariot were red horses. .....vs 6 the black horses and the white horses and then the dappled. But no mention of the red horse.

Where do you get the Piebald from.

 

[Rockerduck]

Hello Sue D.
The red horses are in Zechariah 6:1. You need to actually read Zechariah 1-7. This is a dual prophesy that goes with Daniel 7:1-7 on his vision of 4 winds. and future with Revelation 6:1-7.

For those reading this thread, a dappled horse is a spotted horse and piebald is a painted horse like a Pinto.

 

[Bill]

@Bill ,-- I'm looking at the Zechariah 6:6 passage. vs 2 says with the first chariot were red horses. .....vs 6 the black horses and the white horses and then the dappled. But no mention of the red horse.

Where do you get the Piebald from.

From my bible . I dont use king james

 

[Brad Huber]

From my bible . I dont use king james

Jerusalem bible?

 

[Sue D.]

From my bible . I dont use king james

I use the NKJV. But also have access to NIV and ESV. What do you use?

 

[Bill]

Jerusalem bible?

Wow that's a pretty good guess

Yes I use the Jerusalem bible

 

[Sue D.]

What is the Jerusalem Bible?

 

[Rockerduck]

Hello,
The Jerusalem bible is a Roman Catholic Bible produced in Great Britain. The name is misleading though.

 

[Sue D.]

Why go to Great Britain for it?

Why is the title misleading?

 

[Brad Huber]

The Jerusalem bible is typically the favorite bible for serious catholics who want the best translation.

 

[Rockerduck]

Hello,
A pope in 1960's decided a translation for Catholics was needed, but translated into French then sometime later translated from French to English. They used the Jewish Septuagint to translate since it was in Greek and easier to translate ; thus the name Jerusalem. It is mainly Roman Catholic and Anglican, and it commonly called " the Catholic bible". It has the Apocrypha in it.
Sue D..> You can buy it on Amazon.

 

[Sue D.]

The Jerusalem bible is typically the favorite bible for serious catholics who want the best translation.

Why is that considered the best translation? I've heard that the KJV us the best one. I use the NKJV.

 

[Sue D.]

Hello,
A pope in 1960's decided a translation for Catholics was needed, but translated into French then sometime later translated from French to English. They used the Jewish Septuagint to translate since it was in Greek and easier to translate ; thus the name Jerusalem. It is mainly Roman Catholic and Anglican, and it commonly called " the Catholic bible". It has the Apocrypha in it.
Sue D..> You can buy it on Amazon.

I'm okay with my NKJV. But thank you for sharing.

 

[Rockerduck]

I'm okay with my NKJV. But thank you for sharing.

I use the NKJV too. I collect Blbles and have most all translations and know a little about each. I quote from the KJV though, when I speak.

 

[Sue D.]

I grew up with KJV and spent many years with that. Then visited my older daughter and she was using the NIV. Really liked that so found an NIV study Bible and used that die a long time. Then the pastor of our church introduced us to the NKJV so I got one. And have been with that ever since. My sister and bil said they got an ESV so I got one of those also.

I'd had cataract surgery on both eyes and could read the small print again. But the NKJV is easier to read.

 

[Bill]

I use the NKJV too. I collect Blbles and have most all translations and know a little about each. I quote from the KJV though, when I speak.

I use the Jerusalem Bible this one printed in 1968. I have always liked the translation or word usage. Seems to flow best with me.

I have read the King James , and found it difficult with the 'these thy's, those, and thus's' or old english.

Of the Apocrypha I have read it but I don't use it, at least in the dialogue here because I know you do not. What point would there be if I sat there and quoted things that you would never read.

Something I think that we are both in the same boat on is the difference in how Bibles have been written over the years. If I compare the writing of my 1968 Jerusalem bible to a modern Jerusalem bible there's quite a bit of difference in the word usage.

And with your modern King James Version, you will find the same problem with people who have read the King James version from back in 1968 cuz there's a huge difference between the words.

Just something I think you guys might like to hear though. My mother who is a strong Catholic but very open to many things. After she passed away I was going through the books in her bedroom and one of the most used books was the King James version 1949. Pretty cool in my opinion.

 

[Sue D.]

@ Bill -- I started out with the KJV spent many years reading it. Then the NIV and then found out about the NKJV. The " thee's and 'thou's' , etc have been replaced with the more modern ' you, your, ' etc.

 

[Rockerduck]

Hello Bill,
I use my 1967 KJ Scofield Bible as a standard. There isn't any difference in the Authorized King James bibles since they are public record and anyone can print it, but if you change it , it must be filed with the copyright office and given a new name. All the Translations are based on the Authorized KJ Bibles because it alone is the preserved Word of God. They had the oldest and reliable manuscripts plus the Geneva Bible at the time of translation and preserved it in translation. The 47 scholars combined Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin and Greek to translate it to the best English..
About 1975. The NKJV was financed by Thomas Nelson and developed a word for word translation; It reads accurately along with the AKJB. without the thee, thou, and ye's.