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I know the majority of churches believe in One God manifested in three persons (or spirit beings). But there is a major deception about this that the religion of Christianity has not been aware of.

First I’ll share a video on the origin of the pagan trinity concept, it goes as far back as Nimrod and his pagan Babylon. Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz was the first pagan trinity concept to be introduced to mankind.


So why is the trinity a false doctrine and a potentially dangerous lie planted by the devil himself? I will show Scriptures and Gospel verses to back up what I am expositing.

The first concept that is wrong in trinity is that God exists as three coequal persons. That is not the truth. Paul said in 1 Corinthians that the one true God is the Father. He went on to say that the head of Christ is God, so it’s obvious Christ and God are NOT coequal.

What is the true relationship between the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit?

The Father is the ONE God as apostle Paul said, because He is the only one who was never created. Jesus on the other hand, is the firstborn of all creation, the CREATED Word and subservient to the Father. The Holy Spirit was never called a “he” in the original transcripts, the English translation failed to take into account the masculine and feminine forms of the word “it” and mistranslated it as “he”. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and we belong to Christ because we have the Spirit of Christ. The Spirit of Christ is also the Spirit of God not because Christ and God are coequal but because Jesus was the first to have the Spirit of the Father dwelling in his flesh in fullness.

It was the Father who existed from eternity, the only one who is rightfully called God. He was alone until He first created/begot His Word whom He called His only begotten Son. The Father then created the world by His Word and then sent His Word to become flesh as the atonement of sin.

Why is the trinity doctrine so dangerous? Because the Gospel (verses like Matthew 28:19 and the likes that talk about trinity) had been deliberated altered by Roman Catholics in the third century to worship THREE nameless spirits who are coequal called the father son and holy spirit. The only name used by early Christians to baptise and preach was the name Yahushua/Jesus. The book of Acts said people are baptised into the name of Yahushua/Jesus. So what is the actual name of the father son and Holy Spirit? It’s unclear and unknown!

Why is the idea of God being three coequal spirit beings so largely promoted and taught as truth? Because in the book of revelation there are THREE unclean spirits coming from the mouths of the dragon, beast and false prophet. So the trinity is nothing more than a lie planted to deceive the mass of Christians into worshipping the THREE unclean spirits in the book of revelation as One God!

Relevant Bible verses as follows:

1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, - how can God be three persons when Paul says there is but one God?

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God - how can God be three coequal persons when Paul says God is the head of Jesus?

Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation - how can God be three coexisting persons when Jesus as the Word was the first to be created?

Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. - Jesus Christ is the name reserved only for Jesus, the Holy Spirit was never named Jesus Christ. So what IS the actual name of the father, son and HS as proclaimed by Roman Catholicism? It is unknown!

Revelation 16:13
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. - Is it not possible that the ENTIRE Christendom is led to worship three unclean spirits under the trinity doctrine?
 
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I know the majority of churches believe in One God manifested in three persons (or spirit beings). But there is a major deception about this that the religion of Christianity has not been aware of.

First I’ll share a video on the origin of the pagan trinity concept, it goes as far back as Nimrod and his pagan Babylon. Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz was the first pagan trinity concept to be introduced to mankind.

Have not watched it yet, but you can find traces of paganism in anything but that does not mean paganism is the origin of this teaching about the Triune God. The Hebrew word for the English word God in Genesis is Elohim which is a plural meaning for god as in gods. Do consider that as preceding paganism.
So why is the trinity a false doctrine and a potentially dangerous lie planted by the devil himself? I will show Scriptures and Gospel verses to back up what I am expositing.
it is dangerous by how it is applied when ignoring scripture for the only way to come to God the Father by is the Son John 14:6 and the only way to honor the Father by how we will all be judged is by only honoring the Son ( John 5:22-23 ) and that means honoring the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son in worship, addressing and praying to the Holy Spirit is a work of an iniquity for climbing up another way in following a stranger's voice, tongues for private use John 10:1-5
The first concept that is wrong in trinity is that God exists as three coequal persons. That is not the truth. Paul said in 1 Corinthians that the one true God is the Father. He went on to say that the head of Christ is God, so it’s obvious Christ and God are NOT coequal.
In a traditional family on earth, the father is greater than his sons in that he is the authority over the household. That is why in Jesus's prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane asking for the cup to be removed from Him, He said it that the Father's will be done and not His own. The point to not null and avoid that just as the father is human and so are the sons, so is Jesus as the Son is God as the Father is God. It by the Father as being the Father that is His authority as in His will reigns in this Triune God or Godhead. That is how the Father is God of Jesus.
What is the true relationship between the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit?

The Father is the ONE God as apostle Paul said, because He is the only one who was never created. Jesus on the other hand, is the firstborn of all creation, the CREATED Word and subservient to the Father.
When you consider the Word of God as God, and that He is the One by Whom all things were made, then Jesus existed as God before His incarnation and our Creator became flesh and walked among us in John 1:1-14.

Indeed, Jesus The God That Men Had Seen In The O.T. <--- click on like to see thread
The Holy Spirit was never called a “he” in the original transcripts, the English translation failed to take into account the masculine and feminine forms of the word “it” and mistranslated it as “he”.
The truth is, you can know the Holy Spirit is a Person & not an 'it" by how He can be grieved Ephesians 4:30 & can make personal intercessions for us with groanings that cannot be uttered for why Jesus knows the mind of the Spirit to give His silent & unuttered intercessions to God the Father which is in according to the will of God the Father being how Jesus is the only Mediator between God and men, 1 Timothy 2:5 as it is the Son as God answering prayers John 14:13-14

When you consider the Father as male and the Son as male for why the request was made by the Word of God to make man in "our image" and after "our likeness: in Genesis 1:26 then the Spirit of the Father Matthew 10:20 and the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of Him in being a witness of Him and so how can He be a Witness of an It?

Romans 8:But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and we belong to Christ because we have the Spirit of Christ. The Spirit of Christ is also the Spirit of God not because Christ and God are coequal but because Jesus was the first to have the Spirit of the Father dwelling in his flesh in fullness.

It was the Father who existed from eternity, the only one who is rightfully called God. He was alone until He first created/begot His Word whom He called His only begotten Son. The Father then created the world by His Word and then sent His Word to become flesh as the atonement of sin.
Do consider that the only begotten Son is referring to His incarnation when He was conceived since the Word of God existed before His incarnation and was seen by men in the O.T. having an appearance of a man from which man was created after. And this "Lord" as a "man" did eat & drank what Abraham provided for Him in that day when Abraham got the news that Sara will have a son. Genesis 18:1-8
Why is the trinity doctrine so dangerous? Because the Gospel (verses like Matthew 28:19 and the likes that talk about trinity) had been deliberated altered by Roman Catholics in the third century to worship THREE nameless spirits who are coequal called the father son and holy spirit. The only name used by early Christians to baptise and preach was the name Yahushua/Jesus. The book of Acts said people are baptised into the name of Yahushua/Jesus. So what is the actual name of the father son and Holy Spirit? It’s unclear and unknown!
The name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ as the name of the Son of God is to be called upon to call on God to save them for how any sinner can be saved by Jesus Christ the Savior when believing in the Soin of God. Just because Christians and churches took Jesus's words literally rather than what He had meant to baptize others by in Jesus's name, does not negate His words in Matthew 28:18-20 or proof of RCC mishandling His words.
Why is the idea of God being three coequal spirit beings so largely promoted and taught as truth? Because in the book of revelation there are THREE unclean spirits coming from the mouths of the dragon, beast and false prophet. So the trinity is nothing more than a lie planted to deceive the mass of Christians into worshipping the THREE unclean spirits in the book of revelation as One God!
The Trinity doctrine is dangerous by how they apply it. The Nicene creed in 381 A.D, broadened the way in the worship place by including the worship of the Father & the Son but if believers & churches wishes to avoid the iniquity, they should narrow the way back to the straight gate by having this mind of Christ in worship in obedience to Paul in his absence in Philippians 2:5-13 or risk being left behind for not heeding His words Luke 13:24-30 & Matthew 7:13-27
Relevant Bible verses as follows:

1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, - how can God be three persons when Paul says there is but one God?
Yet Jesus is One with the Father. The Jews understood His claim here.

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

Again Jesus's claim to deity as mentioned earlier; as the God men had seen in the O.T. because Jesus had testified that Abraham had seen Him.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

It was why He was crucified for which was blasphemy in being on the right hand of God as God as well.

Matthew 26:63 But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. 64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. 66 What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death.

Mark 14:61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? 64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.


1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God - how can God be three coequal persons when Paul says God is the head of Jesus?
Who can answer prayers except God? The Father being Head of the Son in that any intercessions the Son brings to the Father, when the Father says yes to any of those intercessions, the Son answers the prayers. Just as in creation.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation - how can God be three coexisting persons when Jesus as the Word was the first to be created?
Would not the image of the invisible God be invisible also? Or can invisible mean not presently seen at the moment just as Jesus Christ is at the moment but He will be seen again?

1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. 16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. 17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. - Jesus Christ is the name reserved only for Jesus, the Holy Spirit was never named Jesus Christ. So what IS the actual name of the father, son and HS as proclaimed by Roman Catholicism? It is unknown!
Again, the name of God to call upon to be saved is Jesus Christ and that is how born again believers are differentiated from other disciples in those days as not being disciples of the Pharisees and not being disciples of John the Baptist's.

Luke 5:33 And they said unto him, Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisees; but thine eat and drink?
Revelation 16:13
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. - Is it not possible that the ENTIRE Christendom is led to worship three unclean spirits under the trinity doctrine?
No. It is not possible for how you are applying that verse to mean, however many are committing spiritual adultery by the broadening of the way in the worship place for why many believers are at risk in being left behind. By visitations of the spirits of the antichrist, many assume the phenomenon to be the Holy Ghost falling on believers again when He has been in us since salvation at the calling of the gospel when we had first believed.

Indeed, the thieves are at the door in making sinners subject to the phenomenon in bringing about "conversion" but not by believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ. Although I believe they are saved when they do believe in Jesus Christ, but signs they follow, casing after seducing spirits as those that are saved but got led astray by that phenomenon rather than the other way around when signs are to follow believers. An example of this is Paul here.

Acts 28:1 And when they were escaped, then they knew that the island was called Melita. 2 And the barbarous people shewed us no little kindness: for they kindled a fire, and received us every one, because of the present rain, and because of the cold. 3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. 4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. 5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. 6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.

Signs follow believers. but seekers and believers are not to follow after signs in receiving otherwise they are committing spiritual adultery.

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Revelation 18:1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.


A comparison below of what is happening in the Christian churches to what has been happening in Khundalini which had existed before Pentecost had come and still seen today.


John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

May God cause the increase.
 
Have not watched it yet, but you can find traces of paganism in anything but that does not mean paganism is the origin of this teaching about the Triune God. The Hebrew word for the English word God in Genesis is Elohim which is a plural meaning for god as in gods. Do consider that as preceding paganism. it is dangerous by how it is applied when ignoring scripture for the only way to come to God the Father by is the Son John 14:6 and the only way to honor the Father by how we will all be judged is by only honoring the Son ( John 5:22-23 ) and that means honoring the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son in worship, addressing and praying to the Holy Spirit is a work of an iniquity for climbing up another way in following a stranger's voice, tongues for private use John 10:1-5 In a traditional family on earth, the father is greater than his sons in that he is the authority over the household. That is why in Jesus's prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane asking for the cup to be removed from Him, He said it that the Father's will be done and not His own. The point to not null and avoid that just as the father is human and so are the sons, so is Jesus as the Son is God as the Father is God. It by the Father as being the Father that is His authority as in His will reigns in this Triune God or Godhead. That is how the Father is God of Jesus. When you consider the Word of God as God, and that He is the One by Whom all things were made, then Jesus existed as God before His incarnation and our Creator became flesh and walked among us in John 1:1-14. Indeed, Jesus The God That Men Had Seen In The O.T. <--- click on like to see thread The truth is, you can know the Holy Spirit is a Person & not an 'it" by how He can be grieved Ephesians 4:30 & can make personal intercessions for us with groanings that cannot be uttered for why Jesus knows the mind of the Spirit to give His silent & unuttered intercessions to God the Father which is in according to the will of God the Father being how Jesus is the only Mediator between God and men, 1 Timothy 2:5 as it is the Son as God answering prayers John 14:13-14 When you consider the Father as male and the Son as male for why the request was made by the Word of God to make man in "our image" and after "our likeness: in Genesis 1:26 then the Spirit of the Father Matthew 10:20 and the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of Him in being a witness of Him and so how can He be a Witness of an It? Romans 8:But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Do consider that the only begotten Son is referring to His incarnation when He was conceived since the Word of God existed before His incarnation and was seen by men in the O.T. having an appearance of a man from which man was created after. And this "Lord" as a "man" did eat & drank what Abraham provided for Him in that day when Abraham got the news that Sara will have a son. Genesis 18:1-8 The name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ as the name of the Son of God is to be called upon to call on God to save them for how any sinner can be saved by Jesus Christ the Savior when believing in the Soin of God. Just because Christians and churches took Jesus's words literally rather than what He had meant to baptize others by in Jesus's name, does not negate His words in Matthew 28:18-20 or proof of RCC mishandling His words. The Trinity doctrine is dangerous by how they apply it. The Nicene creed in 381 A.D, broadened the way in the worship place by including the worship of the Father & the Son but if believers & churches wishes to avoid the iniquity, they should narrow the way back to the straight gate by having this mind of Christ in worship in obedience to Paul in his absence in Philippians 2:5-13 or risk being left behind for not heeding His words Luke 13:24-30 & Matthew 7:13-27 Yet Jesus is One with the Father. The Jews understood His claim here. John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. 39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand, Again Jesus's claim to deity as mentioned earlier; as the God men had seen in the O.T. because Jesus had testified that Abraham had seen Him. John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. It was why He was crucified for which was blasphemy in being on the right hand of God as God as well. Matthew 26:63 But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. 64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. 66 What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death. Mark 14:61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? 64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death. Who can answer prayers except God? The Father being Head of the Son in that any intercessions the Son brings to the Father, when the Father says yes to any of those intercessions, the Son answers the prayers. Just as in creation. John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. Would not the image of the invisible God be invisible also? Or can invisible mean not presently seen at the moment just as Jesus Christ is at the moment but He will be seen again? 1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. 16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. 17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. Again, the name of God to call upon to be saved is Jesus Christ and that is how born again believers are differentiated from other disciples in those days as not being disciples of the Pharisees and not being disciples of John the Baptist's. Luke 5:33 And they said unto him, Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisees; but thine eat and drink? No. It is not possible for how you are applying that verse to mean, however many are committing spiritual adultery by the broadening of the way in the worship place for why many believers are at risk in being left behind. By visitations of the spirits of the antichrist, many assume the phenomenon to be the Holy Ghost falling on believers again when He has been in us since salvation at the calling of the gospel when we had first believed. Indeed, the thieves are at the door in making sinners subject to the phenomenon in bringing about "conversion" but not by believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ. Although I believe they are saved when they do believe in Jesus Christ, but signs they follow, casing after seducing spirits as those that are saved but got led astray by that phenomenon rather than the other way around when signs are to follow believers. An example of this is Paul here. Acts 28:1 And when they were escaped, then they knew that the island was called Melita. 2 And the barbarous people shewed us no little kindness: for they kindled a fire, and received us every one, because of the present rain, and because of the cold. 3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. 4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. 5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. 6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god. Signs follow believers. but seekers and believers are not to follow after signs in receiving otherwise they are committing spiritual adultery. Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. 2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? Revelation 18:1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
A comparison below of what is happening in the Christian churches to what has been happening in Khundalini which had existed before Pentecost had come and still seen today.
John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. May God cause the increase.

I don’t have the time to address everything you said here right now but it is a fact that none of the apostles talked about the trinity concept or actively taught that we should worship God in three coexisting coequal persons. It was introduced into the church three centuries later after the apostles are gone.

Apostle Paul warned the early church that after he was gone wolves will come into the flock, that happened when Roman Catholicism was formed by Constantine, a sun worshipper who brought paganism into the church. The early church had a simple understanding of God, His Son and the Spirit of God. The Father is the uncreated God, His Word is His first creation and became Flesh. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and first dwelled in Jesus fully and then is poured out onto the believers at Pentecost. Roman Catholicism distorted this simple understanding and turned it into Plato’s philosophy and a trinity concept that originated with Nimrod, Semiramus and Tammuz. Like I said, the book of Revelation specifically mentioned THREE coequal unclean spirits that come from the dragon/beast/false prophet, I do believe this is mentioned because the trinity falsehood is set up to sway people to worship the three unclean spirits unknowingly.
 
I don’t have the time to address everything you said here right now but it is a fact that none of the apostles talked about the trinity concept or actively taught that we should worship God in three coexisting coequal persons. It was introduced into the church three centuries later after the apostles are gone.
Strangely enough, in the debates as far back as 200 A.D. they had referenced 1 John 5:7 about the 3 Witnesses in Heaven being One as it was originally written in scripture. They would not be able to do that if it was not so.

IS 1 JOHN 5:7 NOT IN ANY GREEK MANUSCRIPT BEFORE THE 1600S? IF IT IS TRUE, WHY IS IT IN THE KJV?

200 ADTertullian wrote "which three are one" based on the verse in his Against Praxeas, chapter 25.
250 ADCyprian of Carthage, wrote, "And again, of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost it is written: "And the three are One" in his On The Lapsed, On the Novatians, (see note for Old Latin)
350 ADPriscillian referred to it [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]
350 ADIdacius Clarus referred to it [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 62, col. 359.]
350 ADAthanasius referred to it in his De Incarnatione
398 ADAurelius Augustine used it to defend Trinitarianism in De Trinitate against the heresy of Sabellianism
415 ADCouncil of Carthage appealed to 1 John 5:7 when debating the Arian belief (Arians didn't believe in the deity of Jesus Christ)
450-530 ADSeveral orthodox African writers quoted the verse when defending the doctrine of the Trinity against the gainsaying of the Vandals. These writers are:
A) Vigilius Tapensis in "Three Witnesses in Heaven"
B) Victor Vitensis in his Historia persecutionis [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. vii, p. 60.]
C) Fulgentius in "The Three Heavenly Witnesses" [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 65, col. 500.]

Apostle Paul warned the early church that after he was gone wolves will come into the flock, that happened when Roman Catholicism was formed by Constantine, a sun worshipper who brought paganism into the church. The early church had a simple understanding of God, His Son and the Spirit of God. The Father is the uncreated God, His Word is His first creation and became Flesh. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and first dwelled in Jesus fully and then is poured out onto the believers at Pentecost. Roman Catholicism distorted this simple understanding and turned it into Plato’s philosophy and a trinity concept that originated with Nimrod, Semiramus and Tammuz. Like I said, the book of Revelation specifically mentioned THREE coequal unclean spirits that come from the dragon/beast/false prophet, I do believe this is mentioned because the trinity falsehood is set up to sway people to worship the three unclean spirits unknowingly.
You cannot blame the Catholic Church for messing around with God's words when scriptures in it still reproves the works of Catholicism. How easy would it be for them to change the scripture to align with their false beliefs? Pretty easy.
 
I don’t have the time to address everything you said here right now but it is a fact that none of the apostles talked about the trinity concept or actively taught that we should worship God in three coexisting coequal persons. It was introduced into the church three centuries later after the apostles are gone.

Apostle Paul warned the early church that after he was gone wolves will come into the flock, that happened when Roman Catholicism was formed by Constantine, a sun worshipper who brought paganism into the church. The early church had a simple understanding of God, His Son and the Spirit of God. The Father is the uncreated God, His Word is His first creation and became Flesh. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and first dwelled in Jesus fully and then is poured out onto the believers at Pentecost. Roman Catholicism distorted this simple understanding and turned it into Plato’s philosophy and a trinity concept that originated with Nimrod, Semiramus and Tammuz. Like I said, the book of Revelation specifically mentioned THREE coequal unclean spirits that come from the dragon/beast/false prophet, I do believe this is mentioned because the trinity falsehood is set up to sway people to worship the three unclean spirits unknowingly.
I probably should have broken up my replies to your OP. Sorry. I'll see if I can do it by reposting it in smaller bits, God be willing in this thread.
 
I know the majority of churches believe in One God manifested in three persons (or spirit beings). But there is a major deception about this that the religion of Christianity has not been aware of.

First I’ll share a video on the origin of the pagan trinity concept, it goes as far back as Nimrod and his pagan Babylon. Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz was the first pagan trinity concept to be introduced to mankind.


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Have not watched it yet, but you can find traces of paganism in anything but that does not mean paganism is the origin of this teaching about the Triune God. The Hebrew word for the English word God in Genesis is Elohim which is a plural meaning for god as in gods. Do consider that as preceding paganism.
So why is the trinity a false doctrine and a potentially dangerous lie planted by the devil himself? I will show Scriptures and Gospel verses to back up what I am expositing.
it is dangerous by how it is applied when ignoring scripture for the only way to come to God the Father by is the Son John 14:6 and the only way to honor the Father by how we will all be judged is by only honoring the Son ( John 5:22-23 ) and that means honoring the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son in worship, addressing and praying to the Holy Spirit is a work of an iniquity for climbing up another way in following a stranger's voice, tongues for private use John 10:1-5
The first concept that is wrong in trinity is that God exists as three coequal persons. That is not the truth. Paul said in 1 Corinthians that the one true God is the Father. He went on to say that the head of Christ is God, so it’s obvious Christ and God are NOT coequal.
In a traditional family on earth, the father is greater than his sons in that he is the authority over the household. That is why in Jesus's prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane asking for the cup to be removed from Him, He said it that the Father's will be done and not His own. The point to not null and avoid that just as the father is human and so are the sons, so is Jesus as the Son is God as the Father is God. It by the Father as being the Father that is His authority as in His will reigns in this Triune God or Godhead. That is how the Father is God of Jesus.
What is the true relationship between the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit?

The Father is the ONE God as apostle Paul said, because He is the only one who was never created. Jesus on the other hand, is the firstborn of all creation, the CREATED Word and subservient to the Father.
When you consider the Word of God as God, and that He is the One by Whom all things were made, then Jesus existed as God before His incarnation and our Creator became flesh and walked among us in John 1:1-14.

Indeed, Jesus The God That Men Had Seen In The O.T. <--- click on like to see thread
 
The Holy Spirit was never called a “he” in the original transcripts, the English translation failed to take into account the masculine and feminine forms of the word “it” and mistranslated it as “he”.
The truth is, you can know the Holy Spirit is a Person & not an 'it" by how He can be grieved Ephesians 4:30 & can make personal intercessions for us with groanings that cannot be uttered for why Jesus knows the mind of the Spirit to give His silent & unuttered intercessions to God the Father which is in according to the will of God the Father being how Jesus is the only Mediator between God and men, 1 Timothy 2:5 as it is the Son as God answering prayers John 14:13-14

When you consider the Father as male and the Son as male for why the request was made by the Word of God to make man in "our image" and after "our likeness: in Genesis 1:26 then the Spirit of the Father Matthew 10:20 and the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of Him in being a witness of Him and so how can He be a Witness of an It?

Romans 8:But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and we belong to Christ because we have the Spirit of Christ. The Spirit of Christ is also the Spirit of God not because Christ and God are coequal but because Jesus was the first to have the Spirit of the Father dwelling in his flesh in fullness.

It was the Father who existed from eternity, the only one who is rightfully called God. He was alone until He first created/begot His Word whom He called His only begotten Son. The Father then created the world by His Word and then sent His Word to become flesh as the atonement of sin.
Do consider that the only begotten Son is referring to His incarnation when He was conceived since the Word of God existed before His incarnation and was seen by men in the O.T. having an appearance of a man from which man was created after. And this "Lord" as a "man" did eat & drank what Abraham provided for Him in that day when Abraham got the news that Sara will have a son. Genesis 18:1-8
Why is the trinity doctrine so dangerous? Because the Gospel (verses like Matthew 28:19 and the likes that talk about trinity) had been deliberated altered by Roman Catholics in the third century to worship THREE nameless spirits who are coequal called the father son and holy spirit. The only name used by early Christians to baptise and preach was the name Yahushua/Jesus. The book of Acts said people are baptised into the name of Yahushua/Jesus. So what is the actual name of the father son and Holy Spirit? It’s unclear and unknown!
The name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ as the name of the Son of God is to be called upon to call on God to save them for how any sinner can be saved by Jesus Christ the Savior when believing in the Soin of God. Just because Christians and churches took Jesus's words literally rather than what He had meant to baptize others by in Jesus's name, does not negate His words in Matthew 28:18-20 or proof of RCC mishandling His words.
 
Why is the idea of God being three coequal spirit beings so largely promoted and taught as truth? Because in the book of revelation there are THREE unclean spirits coming from the mouths of the dragon, beast and false prophet. So the trinity is nothing more than a lie planted to deceive the mass of Christians into worshipping the THREE unclean spirits in the book of revelation as One God!
The Trinity doctrine is dangerous by how they apply it. The Nicene creed in 381 A.D, broadened the way in the worship place by including the worship of the Father & the Son but if believers & churches wishes to avoid the iniquity, they should narrow the way back to the straight gate by having this mind of Christ in worship in obedience to Paul in his absence in Philippians 2:5-13 or risk being left behind for not heeding His words Luke 13:24-30 & Matthew 7:13-27
Relevant Bible verses as follows:

1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, - how can God be three persons when Paul says there is but one God?
Yet Jesus is One with the Father. The Jews understood His claim here.

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

Again Jesus's claim to deity as mentioned earlier; as the God men had seen in the O.T. because Jesus had testified that Abraham had seen Him.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

It was why He was crucified for which was blasphemy in being on the right hand of God as God as well.

Matthew 26:63 But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. 64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. 66 What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death.

Mark 14:61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? 64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God - how can God be three coequal persons when Paul says God is the head of Jesus?
Who can answer prayers except God? The Father being Head of the Son in that any intercessions the Son brings to the Father, when the Father says yes to any of those intercessions, the Son answers the prayers. Just as in creation.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
 
Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation - how can God be three coexisting persons when Jesus as the Word was the first to be created?
Would not the image of the invisible God be invisible also? Or can invisible mean not presently seen at the moment just as Jesus Christ is at the moment but He will be seen again?

1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. 16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. 17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. - Jesus Christ is the name reserved only for Jesus, the Holy Spirit was never named Jesus Christ. So what IS the actual name of the father, son and HS as proclaimed by Roman Catholicism? It is unknown!
Again, the name of God to call upon to be saved is Jesus Christ and that is how born again believers are differentiated from other disciples in those days as not being disciples of the Pharisees and not being disciples of John the Baptist's.

Luke 5:33 And they said unto him, Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisees; but thine eat and drink?
Revelation 16:13
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. - Is it not possible that the ENTIRE Christendom is led to worship three unclean spirits under the trinity doctrine?
No. It is not possible for how you are applying that verse to mean, however many are committing spiritual adultery by the broadening of the way in the worship place for why many believers are at risk in being left behind. By visitations of the spirits of the antichrist, many assume the phenomenon to be the Holy Ghost falling on believers again when He has been in us since salvation at the calling of the gospel when we had first believed.

Indeed, the thieves are at the door in making sinners subject to the phenomenon in bringing about "conversion" but not by believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ. Although I believe they are saved when they do believe in Jesus Christ, but signs they follow, casing after seducing spirits as those that are saved but got led astray by that phenomenon rather than the other way around when signs are to follow believers. An example of this is Paul here.

Acts 28:1 And when they were escaped, then they knew that the island was called Melita. 2 And the barbarous people shewed us no little kindness: for they kindled a fire, and received us every one, because of the present rain, and because of the cold. 3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. 4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. 5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. 6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.

Signs follow believers. but seekers and believers are not to follow after signs in receiving otherwise they are committing spiritual adultery.

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Revelation 18:1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.


A comparison below of what is happening in the Christian churches to what has been happening in Khundalini which had existed before Pentecost had come and still seen today.


John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

May God cause the increase.
 
Strangely enough, in the debates as far back as 200 A.D. they had referenced 1 John 5:7 about the 3 Witnesses in Heaven being One as it was originally written in scripture. They would not be able to do that if it was not so.

IS 1 JOHN 5:7 NOT IN ANY GREEK MANUSCRIPT BEFORE THE 1600S? IF IT IS TRUE, WHY IS IT IN THE KJV?

200 ADTertullian wrote "which three are one" based on the verse in his Against Praxeas, chapter 25.
250 ADCyprian of Carthage, wrote, "And again, of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost it is written: "And the three are One" in his On The Lapsed, On the Novatians, (see note for Old Latin)
350 ADPriscillian referred to it [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]
350 ADIdacius Clarus referred to it [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 62, col. 359.]
350 ADAthanasius referred to it in his De Incarnatione
398 ADAurelius Augustine used it to defend Trinitarianism in De Trinitate against the heresy of Sabellianism
415 ADCouncil of Carthage appealed to 1 John 5:7 when debating the Arian belief (Arians didn't believe in the deity of Jesus Christ)
450-530 ADSeveral orthodox African writers quoted the verse when defending the doctrine of the Trinity against the gainsaying of the Vandals. These writers are:
A) Vigilius Tapensis in "Three Witnesses in Heaven"
B) Victor Vitensis in his Historia persecutionis [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. vii, p. 60.]
C) Fulgentius in "The Three Heavenly Witnesses" [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 65, col. 500.]


You cannot blame the Catholic Church for messing around with God's words when scriptures in it still reproves the works of Catholicism. How easy would it be for them to change the scripture to align with their false beliefs? Pretty easy.

1 John 5:7 is a latter addition that was not part of the teaching of the apostles. It was added probably after the apostles were gone. The KJV is corrupt as are all translations of the modern day Bibles. In fact, there is a video and tons of other videos that show the Bible being supernaturally altered in modern days.

 
The Gospel is very clear, the Father is the only true God who is never created, the created Word whom later became flesh was originally divine (John 1 and other verses about Jesus should have said “the Word was divine” rather than translate it as the Word was God. All those translations that used the word God to talk about Jesus before He became man should have been replaced with the word divine or divinity as indicative of the divine nature of the created Word.) The Word became flesh, which means the divine nature was given up. That is why the apostle Paul wrote this:

Philippians 2:7 Instead he emptied himself by assuming the form of a servant, taking on the likeness of humanity. And when he had come as a man,

The Word could not have remained divine as Jesus the Son of Man because a divine nature would make it impossible for Jesus to die a mortal death. This is the first error trinitarians make, and this error started with early Gnosticism which denied that Jesus truly died a mortal death. By declaring that Jesus retained His divine nature, trinitarians are declaring that Jesus could not have truly died a mortal death. If that is the case the atonement was not made and we all die in our sins.
 
There is also a lot of confusion that trinitarians have, they make lots of claims that Jesus must have been God because of how He was worshipped and can forgive sins etc. But they forget one thing, Jesus had to receive authority from the Father to do anything. Jesus Himself said:

“All authority has been given to me” If he was on equal standing with the Father why does he need authority to be given to him? Jesus said also:

“My Father is greater than I”

So why is Jesus worshipped? Because he is the very representative of the Father, who is the one God.

If the king sends a representative to do his will, the representative is treated the same way the king himself is treated. Whoever sees the representative is considered as seeing the king. The representative is shown the same honor and respect as that shown to the king himself. The king does not become multiple persons because of that, there is only one king throughout. This is the reason why Jesus said if you see him you have seen the Father and that is why he is worshipped.
 
1 John 5:7 is a latter addition that was not part of the teaching of the apostles. It was added probably after the apostles were gone. The KJV is corrupt as are all translations of the modern day Bibles. In fact, there is a video and tons of other videos that show the Bible being supernaturally altered in modern days.

Let me ask you this;

What Bible version are you using?

And what does your Bible version says here?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.... 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

How do you explain the plural sense of those 3 Witnesses of God abiding in us as a testimony from God that we are saved when God needs 2 or 3 Witnesses for His witness to be true to us ( John 8:17 ) as He did at Jesus's water baptism in Matthew 3:15-17 in fulfilling the prophesy in Isaiah 48:16-17 in how the Lord God & His Spirit sent our God the Redeemer? More verses about witnessing Deuteronomy 17:6 & Deuteronomy 19:15 & Matthew 18:15-16 & 2 Corinthians 13:1
 
There is also a lot of confusion that trinitarians have, they make lots of claims that Jesus must have been God because of how He was worshipped and can forgive sins etc. But they forget one thing, Jesus had to receive authority from the Father to do anything. Jesus Himself said:

“All authority has been given to me” If he was on equal standing with the Father why does he need authority to be given to him? Jesus said also:

“My Father is greater than I”

So why is Jesus worshipped? Because he is the very representative of the Father, who is the one God.

If the king sends a representative to do his will, the representative is treated just like the king. Whoever sees the representative is no different from seeing the king himself. The representative is shown the same honor and respect as that shown to the king himself. This is the reason why Jesus said if you see him you have seen the Father and that is why he is worshipped.
What about what Thomas has said about Jesus?

John 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

That is why Jesus said this earlier...to believe in Him as they believe in God for He is God.

John 14:1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Only God can prepare a place for us in our Father's mansion and only God can answer our prayers so the Father can be glorified in the Son as God for answers to prayers.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
 
Let me ask you this;

What Bible version are you using?

And what does your Bible version says here?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.... 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

How do you explain the plural sense of those 3 Witnesses of God abiding in us as a testimony from God that we are saved when God needs 2 or 3 Witnesses for His witness to be true to us ( John 8:17 ) as He did at Jesus's water baptism in Matthew 3:15-17 in fulfilling the prophesy in Isaiah 48:16-17 in how the Lord God & His Spirit sent our God the Redeemer? More verses about witnessing Deuteronomy 17:6 & Deuteronomy 19:15 & Matthew 18:15-16 & 2 Corinthians 13:1

John 14:26 when the word “he” is used to refer to the Holy Ghost, it is a misrepresentation of the word “it”. The original text had a masculine form of the word “it” but the Holy Ghost is really the Spirit of the Father and not a separate and coequal spirit different from the Father.

I don’t see any link between the need to have two or three as witnesses and the nature of God. Where is the link?
 
John 14:26 when the word “he” is used to refer to the Holy Ghost, it is a misrepresentation of the word “it”. The original text had a masculine form of the word “it” but the Holy Ghost is really the Spirit of the Father and not a separate and coequal spirit different from the Father.
What about John 14:23 then?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him..

There can be no mistranslation there for why John 14:26 is testifying to a separate Witness from the Godhead as sent from the Father to bring into remembrance all things said unto us by Jesus Christ..

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
 
What about what Thomas has said about Jesus?

John 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

That is why Jesus said this earlier...to believe in Him as they believe in God for He is God.

John 14:1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Only God can prepare a place for us in our Father's mansion and only God can answer our prayers so the Father can be glorified in the Son as God for answers to prayers.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Why did Thomas exclaim my God and my Lord? Because when he saw Jesus, he saw Jesus his Lord and since Jesus is the representative of God, he saw God too when he beheld the risen Jesus. I explained it already, seeing the representative of the king is equivalent to seeing the king himself.

Otherwise it would be a contradiction for other Gospel to say no one has seen God if Jesus is to be seen as God. So many people has seen Jesus so the Gospel lied about no one has seen God? Of course not! Indeed no one has seen the Father, but when people see the Son, they see the Father already.
 
What about John 14:23 then?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him..

There can be no mistranslation there for why John 14:26 is testifying to a separate Witness from the Godhead as sent from the Father to bring into remembrance all things said unto us by Jesus Christ..

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

You still don’t get it and are deceived by a spirit of error. I already said it many times, there is only one king. He speaks to his people by various means. In the end times he has chosen to speak to us by his son. That does not mean the king suddenly split into multiple persons. The entire world of Christianity is deceived by the three unclean spirits proceeding from the mouths of the dragon, beast and false prophet.
 
Why did Thomas exclaim my God and my Lord? Because when he saw Jesus, he saw Jesus his Lord and since Jesus is the representative of God, he saw God too when he beheld the risen Jesus. I explained it already, seeing the representative of the king is equivalent to seeing the king himself.

Otherwise it would be a contradiction for other Gospel to say no one has seen God. Indeed no one has seen the Father, but when people see the Son, they see the Father already.

Copied & pasted from Jesus The God That Men Had Seen In The O.T.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

Scripture establishes that men have not seen God the Father at any time, but men have seen God in the Old Testament, and that God that the men have seen was Jesus Christ as the Son of God BEFORE His incarnation. Jesus verified that Moses wrote about Him.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life...… 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

By His own words, Jesus said that Abraham had seen Him.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Jesus was referencing these moments with Abraham.

Genesis 12:7And the Lord appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the Lord, who appeared unto him.

Genesis 17:1And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Genesis 18:1And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

The last reference in Genesis 18th chapter was when the Lord promised Abraham that Sarah will have a son.

Other men have seen the Lord also. The Lord appeared to Isaac.

Genesis 26:1And there was a famine in the land, beside the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went unto Abimelech king of the Philistines unto Gerar. 2 And the Lord appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of:

The Lord appeared to Jacob.

Genesis 32:24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. 25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. 26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. 27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. 28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. 29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. 30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

So it was Jesus as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that appeared unto Moses in that fiery bush.

Exodus 3:2 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. 3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. 4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. 5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. 6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.....

13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. 16 Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt:

The Son of God knew Moses was afraid to look upon God Himself and so it is reasonable as to why He appeared in the flaming bush as He'd appeared by the glory of the Lord in the clouds and other ways too.

So Moses had written of the Lord Jesus Christ just as Jesus has said before His incarnation as the "I am that I am" as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
 
The entire world of Christianity is deceived by the three unclean spirits proceeding from the mouths of the dragon, beast and false prophet. This thread and the arguments going on prove that. Just because God spoke to us by various means and in the last days by His son does not mean God has split into multiple persons. Yet the majority refuse to see this. They refuse to see that God’s representatives are not God but rather represent Him and are treated like Him. They make a false theory out of that claiming that any representative of God must be God Himself, that is the lie of the trinity. I will not engage in fruitless arguments, those who have ears should hear. God said to come out of Mystery Babylon, Christianity has become a Babylonian religion, drunk with the blood of the saints and is guilty before Him.
 
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