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Before someone accuses me of dishonoring the Son and Savior. Let me make this clear. Are we to honor the Son Jesus? Yes! He is the head of the church and Lord as all believers call him. The Father has appointed it to be so. So honoring Jesus is to be done. But does that mean we worship Jesus as the one God? No!

We give honor even to human kings but we don’t worship them. The only one to be worshipped is the Father. It’s commanded by Jesus.
 
In fact Jesus has been appointed by the Father as having authority over all creation. So we are to honor Jesus as such so we honor the Father as well.

If the trinity was true and we are to worship both Father and Son (and Holy Spirit) as God, why didn’t Jesus say:

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father and Son (and Holy Spirit) in spirit and in truth

Since Jesus said true worshippers shall worship the Father and never included himself or the holy ghost in that why has entire Christianity been doing that since RCC? Wake up!
 
KJV Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

According to Revelation those who are deceived will worship the dragon and the beast. It’s a dual worship, isn’t this exactly what the entire Christian world is doing? They worship both Father and Son as God.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth - these are the actual words of Jesus, so there was NEVER dual or triple worship to begin with!

Wake up to the depth of deception and delusion that is in the world!
 
Who did the early disciples pray to? The Father or Jesus?

Acts 4
And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:

25Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?

26The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.

27For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,

They were definitely praying to the Father, in verse 27 the disciples said thy holy child Jesus. Even after Jesus was risen and went to heaven they prayed to the Father and not to Jesus!
 
Read again how Jesus responded to the Pharisees’ accusation that He was claiming to be God.

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Jesus made it clear that the Father even called mere men who received the word gods so it is not the first time the Father called man a god. That did not make those men deity.

Jesus was quoting Psalms:

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Psalms said the people of Israel are gods and children of the Most High, according to the trinity falsehood they are now all deity! What a laugh!

The written Gospel has been changed and corrupted for nearly 2000 years, it’s still being insidiously changed under the Mandela/CERN effect. I stick only to history, where the apostles was clear there was no such thing as one God in three. If you will not hear, there is no one that can save you from the delusion that has already come on those who don’t love the truth.
I understand His words even after His explanation as they did when they tried to take Him again. They did not understood Him as saying what you mean, but were provoked by His words to take Him again.

Remember how Jesus had said Abraham had seen Him? And His answer to their question provoked them for understanding His claim to being the I AM as God.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

The problem here is this;

Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. 12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

That means God as God will not share His glory with another.

Compare to this in Revelation


Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

The only way for His words to be true is that Jesus is also God because scriptures testify to God as the Saviour and Jesus as the Saviour also.

Acts 5:31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 13:23
Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

1 Timothy 1:1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

1 Timothy 2:3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 4:10For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Titus 1:
3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour; 4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

So obviosuly, wisdom has to come from the Lord in seeing the truth in His words because Jesus was indeed crucified for the false charge of blasphemy since He was indeed, Christ as God our Redeemer.


Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

When our Lord God returns at the end of the great tribulation when the world's armies march against Jerusalem, this is prophesied.

Zechariah 12:8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them. 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Zechariah 14:1Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Whose feet shall stand in that day upon te Mount of Olives? The Lord our God Whom the Jews had pierced at His crucifixon to cofirm His death on the cross.


So ask God the Father to reveal His Son as God to you in His words.
 
I understand His words even after His explanation as they did when they tried to take Him again. They did not understood Him as saying what you mean, but were provoked by His words to take Him again.

Remember how Jesus had said Abraham had seen Him? And His answer to their question provoked them for understanding His claim to being the I AM as God.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

The problem here is this;

Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. 12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

That means God as God will not share His glory with another.

Compare to this in Revelation


Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

The only way for His words to be true is that Jesus is also God because scriptures testify to God as the Saviour and Jesus as the Saviour also.

Acts 5:31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 13:23
Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

1 Timothy 1:1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

1 Timothy 2:3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 4:10For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Titus 1:
3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour; 4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

So obviosuly, wisdom has to come from the Lord in seeing the truth in His words because Jesus was indeed crucified for the false charge of blasphemy since He was indeed, Christ as God our Redeemer.


Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

When our Lord God returns at the end of the great tribulation when the world's armies march against Jerusalem, this is prophesied.

Zechariah 12:8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them. 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Zechariah 14:1Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Whose feet shall stand in that day upon te Mount of Olives? The Lord our God Whom the Jews had pierced at His crucifixon to cofirm His death on the cross.


So ask God the Father to reveal His Son as God to you in His words.

I have already proven why just because Jesus is called God does not mean He is to be worshipped as God. He commanded us to worship the Father and not him. He never even asked us to pray to him. I gave scriptures from Acts that showed even the early disciples didn’t pray to him either.

Jesus said he is the first and the last because the Scriptures said he is the first of the creation of God and the last Adam. To say he is to be worshipped as God because of that is error, you are using human interpretation and not reading the Scriptures as it is. Jesus certainly existed BEFORE Abraham was but he made it clear also that true worshippers shall worship the FATHER and not him. You are opposing what Jesus said if you insist he is to be worshipped. If you are correct Jesus would have said true worshippers shall worship the Father and Son etc. So why are you adding to what Jesus said?

Jesus’ response to the Pharisees indicated clearly that he wasn’t claiming to be God but rather that it was the Father who called him God just like the Father said ye are gods to the judges in Psalms.
 
I understand His words even after His explanation as they did when they tried to take Him again. They did not understood Him as saying what you mean, but were provoked by His words to take Him again.

Remember how Jesus had said Abraham had seen Him? And His answer to their question provoked them for understanding His claim to being the I AM as God.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

The problem here is this;

Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. 12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

That means God as God will not share His glory with another.

Compare to this in Revelation


Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

The only way for His words to be true is that Jesus is also God because scriptures testify to God as the Saviour and Jesus as the Saviour also.

Acts 5:31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 13:23
Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

1 Timothy 1:1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

1 Timothy 2:3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 4:10For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Titus 1:
3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour; 4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

So obviosuly, wisdom has to come from the Lord in seeing the truth in His words because Jesus was indeed crucified for the false charge of blasphemy since He was indeed, Christ as God our Redeemer.


Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

When our Lord God returns at the end of the great tribulation when the world's armies march against Jerusalem, this is prophesied.

Zechariah 12:8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them. 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Zechariah 14:1Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Whose feet shall stand in that day upon te Mount of Olives? The Lord our God Whom the Jews had pierced at His crucifixon to cofirm His death on the cross.


So ask God the Father to reveal His Son as God to you in His words.

Isaiah 48:11 is the Father speaking, Isaiah 48:12 onwards is the Word speaking. The Word never said I am God in either verses. He said he is the first and the last, why are you adding to the Scriptures?


Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

The Word called the Father Lord GOD, and said the Father sent him. The Word did not say I am the Lord GOD.
 
"The only way for His words to be true is that Jesus is also God because scriptures testify to God as the Saviour and Jesus as the Saviour also."

Wrong. The Father called Jesus God, but he is not to be worshipped as the one God. True worshippers worship the FATHER. Jesus own words testify to this.

Titus 1:
3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour; 4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

You quoted Titus 1:3 but you dont believe what it said. The Father is God, and Jesus is Lord/Savior. Even apostle Paul made that distinction yet you don't.

Acts 5:31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Again the Father is called God, and Jesus is the one God exalted as Prince and savior. God didn't exalt Himself.
 
I have already proven why just because Jesus is called God does not mean He is to be worshipped as God. He commanded us to worship the Father and not him. He never even asked us to pray to him. I gave scriptures from Acts that showed even the early disciples didn’t pray to him either.

And yet the name of God for sinners to call upon to be saved is Jesus Christ. How is that not praying to Jesus to save them? And is it not written here that jesus alone answers prayers so that the Father can be glorified in the Son for answers to prayers?

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Jesus said he is the first and the last because the Scriptures said he is the first of the creation of God and the last Adam. To say he is to be worshipped as God because of that is error, you are using human interpretation and not reading the Scriptures as it is. Jesus certainly existed BEFORE Abraham was but he made it clear also that true worshippers shall worship the FATHER and not him. You are opposing what Jesus said if you insist he is to be worshipped. If you are correct Jesus would have said true worshippers shall worship the Father and Son etc. So why are you adding to what Jesus said?

Jesus’ response to the Pharisees indicated clearly that he wasn’t claiming to be God but rather that it was the Father who called him God just like the Father said ye are gods to the judges in Psalms.
Obviously your beliefs is not allowing you to read what is written in the O.T.

Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. 12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

Who is speaking? God. Therefore take heed of "I am he" because there is consequence for not believing Jesus is God.

John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
 
I have already proven why just because Jesus is called God does not mean He is to be worshipped as God. He commanded us to worship the Father and not him.
Did Jesus rebuked Thomas for saying unto Him My Lord and my God and for worshiping Him?

John 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Verse 29 proves Jesus did not rebuke Thomas for doing that.
 
And yet the name of God for sinners to call upon to be saved is Jesus Christ. How is that not praying to Jesus to save them? And is it not written here that jesus alone answers prayers so that the Father can be glorified in the Son for answers to prayers?

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Obviously your beliefs is not allowing you to read what is written in the O.T.

Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. 12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

Who is speaking? God. Therefore take heed of "I am he" because there is consequence for not believing Jesus is God.

John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Do you even know what the name Jesus means? It means Yah (the Father) saves. Answer me this one question:

Why did Jesus ask us to pray "Our Father in heaven" if we are actually supposed to be praying to him? Don't just throw Scriptures at me.

I do believe Jesus is he, just not the way you deceived people believe. The gospel made it clear that we are to believe in Jesus as the Messiah, Son of God who came to die for our sins. I believe all of that, and I believe with conviction what Jesus said: "True worshippers shall worship the Father". You don't even believe in Jesus' words and insist we are to worship not just the Father.
 
"The only way for His words to be true is that Jesus is also God because scriptures testify to God as the Saviour and Jesus as the Saviour also."

Wrong. The Father called Jesus God, but he is not to be worshipped as the one God. True worshippers worship the FATHER. Jesus own words testify to this.

Titus 1:
3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour; 4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

You quoted Titus 1:3 but you dont believe what it said. The Father is God, and Jesus is Lord/Savior. Even apostle Paul made that distinction yet you don't.

Acts 5:31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Again the Father is called God, and Jesus is the one God exalted as Prince and savior. God didn't exalt Himself.
There are verses testifying to God as the Saviour and verses testifying to Jesus as the Saviour and yet God had said He would not share His glory with another and so how can that be rectified? Answer; Jesus is God.
 
Did Jesus rebuked Thomas for saying unto Him My Lord and my God and for worshiping Him?

John 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Verse 29 proves Jesus did not rebuke Thomas for doing that.

Lol, didnt I say already Jesus is given the name God? So Thomas isnt wrong to call him that.
 
There are verses testifying to God as the Saviour and verses testifying to Jesus as the Saviour and yet God had said He would not share His glory with another and so how can that be rectified? Answer; Jesus is God.

What do you fail to understand when I say Jesus is called God but NOT worshipped as God? Please start answering this question or our conversation will end like it did earlier:

Why did Jesus ask us to pray "Our Father in heaven" if we are actually supposed to be praying to him? Why did Jesus say "true worshippers shall worship the Father" if we are to worship both father and son as God?

The questions above are very straightforward. If you can't even answer that then throwing Scriptures at me will not do anything to prove you're right. I believe in exactly what Jesus said. Since Jesus did not ask me to worship him or pray to him ANYWHERE in the Gospel I would not do so. You, on the other hand, listen to men's teachings and ignore what the Jesus of the Gospel actually said. You believe in another Jesus, not the Jesus of the Gospel who told me to worship the FATHER.
 
Do you even know what the name Jesus means? It means Yah (the Father) saves. Answer me this one question:
No, it does not.

Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Who is with us?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

That's Three witnesses within the One God that is with us.

Why did Jesus ask us to pray "Our Father in heaven" if we are actually supposed to be praying to him? Don't just throw Scriptures at me.
Jesus is the Lamb of God at that throne of grace for how we have access & means to be praying to the Father also.
I do believe Jesus is he, just not the way you deceived people believe. The gospel made it clear that we are to believe in Jesus as the Messiah, Son of God who came to die for our sins. I believe all of that, and I believe with conviction what Jesus said: "True worshippers shall worship the Father". You don't even believe in Jesus' words and insist we are to worship not just the Father.
Are you aware that rock is a term used in the Old Testament as referring to deity? At the link you will find rock as referring to God or gods.

Bible Gateway list of rock = deity

And here is a short list of rock as referring to Lord.

1 Samuel 2:2There is none holy as the Lord: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

2 Samuel 22:2And he said, The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;...32For who is God, save the Lord? and who is a rock, save our God? .....47The Lord liveth; and blessed be my rock; and exalted be the God of the rock of my salvation.

Psalm 18:1The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.,,, 23For who is God save the Lord? or who is a rock save our God?... 46The Lord liveth; and blessed be my rock; and let the God of my salvation be exalted.

Psalm 28:1Unto thee will I cry, O Lord my rock; be not silent to me: lest, if thou be silent to me, I become like them that go down into the pit.

Psalm 92:15 To shew that the Lord is upright: he is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in him.

Psalm 94:22But the Lord is my defence; and my God is the rock of my refuge.

Psalm 95:1 O come, let us sing unto the Lord: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation.

Now the New Testament;

1 Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
 
And yet you say Jesus is not God? Doesn't align, brother.

I said Jesus is not to be worshipped, to be more accurate this is what Jesus commanded or his words need to be rewritten as "True worshippers will worship the Father and Son". He is called God but not worshipped as God, you dont seem to get that. Also, you never answer why Jesus asked his disciples to worship the Father only and asked his disciples to pray to the Father only. You aren't reading what I am writing. Farewell.
 
What do you fail to understand when I say Jesus is called God but NOT worshipped as God? Please start answering this question or our conversation will end like it did earlier:
Jesus is the Savior for why they would worship Him as God.

in the conest of what is written, who were His disciples worshiping after His ascension?

Luke 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things. 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. 50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. 51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven. 52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy: 53 And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.
Why did Jesus ask us to pray "Our Father in heaven" if we are actually supposed to be praying to him?
He also said this; that Jesus will answer our prayers so the father may be glorified in the Son as God for why we would give the Father thanks in Jesus's name for answers to prayers. John 14:13-14 1 Thessalonians 5:18 & Ephesians 5:20 & Colossians 1:3 & Colossians 1:12 & Colossians 3:17

Just because Jesus taught us to pray to the Father, that does not negate praying to Jesus. Indeed, sinners be calling on Jesus to save them whereby believing in Him is how they got the remission of sins forever & the Holy Ghost forever for why they can call God Abba Father.
Why did Jesus say "true worshippers shall worship the Father" if we are to worship both father and son as God?
Jesus was answering the Samaritan woman's statement about where to worship God at, in the mountains as her people did, or in Jerusalem as the Jews do, and Jesus answers is God is a Spirit as referring to His Omnipresence for when now because Jesus had come, believers can worship God the Father anywhere by coming to the Son in honoring the Son in worship as that is the only way to honor God the Father by.

Do note how God the Father judges no man but render a standard of judgment regarding His Son that the only way to honor the Father is by honoring the Son. John 5:22-23 Just as the only way to glorify God the father is by glorifying the Son Whose name is above every other name Philippians 2:5-11 and that is the mind of Christ you are to have in worship. You cannot honor nor glorify the Father by any other way for the glory of God rests on His Son
The questions above are very straightforward. If you can't even answer that then throwing Scriptures at me will not do anything to prove you're right. I believe in exactly what Jesus said. Since Jesus did not ask me to worship him or pray to him ANYWHERE in the Gospel I would not do so. You, on the other hand, listen to men's teachings and ignore what the Jesus of the Gospel actually said. You believe in another Jesus, not the Jesus of the Gospel who told me to worship the FATHER.
To deny Jesus is the Christ ( God ) is to deny the Father. How can those who deny Jesus is the Christ is also denying the Father unless Jesus is God?

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. 26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
 
I have already proven why just because Jesus is called God does not mean He is to be worshipped as God.

GodB4us didnt read what I was saying. Jesus is called God does not mean He is to be worshipped. Jesus testify to that himself when he asked his disciples to both pray to his Father and worship the Father in spirit and truth.

When I asked a straightfoward question "Why did Jesus ask us to pray "Our Father in heaven" if we are actually supposed to be praying to him?" he gave a feeble answer that never answered my question:

"Jesus is the Lamb of God at that throne of grace for how we have access & means to be praying to the Father also."

So? Jesus is the Lamb of God but he didnt say we are to pray to him.

The rest of his post is a feeble attempt to convince me that I should worship Jesus simply because he is called God in the Scriptures/Gospel. How naive when Jesus commanded the opposite!
 
Luke 24
And He led them out as far as Bethany, and He lifted up His hands and blessed them. 51And it came about that while He was blessing them, He parted from them. 52And they returned to Jerusalem with great joy, 53and were continually in the temple, praising God.

In NASB 1977 there was not a single line in Luke 24:52 that said they worshipped Jesus. Seeing how pervasive the bible/Gospel has been corrupted/changed I wouldn't be surprised if the enemy added the words "they worshipped him" in. how could the actual scriptures contradict what Jesus said and how could Jesus fail to command us to worship him along with the Father if it was this important to worship him like the deceived GodB4us claims?
 
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