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There is not one person on this earth who is evil

Matthew 13

“Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.


There is not one person on this earth who is evil

Luke 6:45
A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
 
Luke 6:45 | View whole chapter A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

The chapter is very clear, it is about Heaven and Hell, God and the devil, Light and darkness and who is your master?

It is here in the verse you quoted referring to the heart, not the person, if your heart is for God, God's commands and what is good in God's sight, you have a good heart. If your heart is not for God and for wicked, sinful things, you have a bad heart.

But what about the eyes?

Matthew 6:22-24 (NKJV)
22 "The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light.
23 But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

This is a reply to your scripture quote @Yib2me but, it is getting away from the topic. Abortion.
 
Every child is God's creation, starting in a woman's womb, just because the man and woman are lost souls and had sex outside marriage, doesn't mean the child in the womb is not God's creation. We are all born into sin.

Matthew 13

Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

We are all born into sin.

Luke 1:15 and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
 
Greetings @Yib2me

What you are suggesting is that it is OK to STEAL the life before he even gets to the born-by-water stage, to STEAL and DESTROY the life of a child and every opportunity of believing.


I do not know if you arrived at your ideas by yourself or if someone 'taught' you to think like that BUT you would do well to be very careful about believing along the lines you believe at present, if indeed you believe at all.

In case you have not read your Bible, Jesus died while we were still sinners, that is you, me and everyone and He died for the sin of the world, not mine only but yours also. Your reasoning suggests that i might as well have been cast into the fire and even aborted because i was not born again before i was even born. That goes for you although i do not think you understand that. If you did, you would not write as you have, seemingly justifying murder of unborn babies because you have a warped idea about them being the devil's children.

Those who Jesus referred to as of the devil were men who chose to defy God, The were not unborn babies.

I suggest you think about this and pray, if you know how, and ask for better understanding of what you so write.

While a child may have unbelieving parents, what right do you have or anyone else on the planet, to rob them of the same breath that you enjoy?


Bless you ....><>
 
Greetings @Yib2me

What you are suggesting is that it is OK to STEAL the life before he even gets to the born-by-water stage, to STEAL and DESTROY the life of a child and every opportunity of believing.


I do not know if you arrived at your ideas by yourself or if someone 'taught' you to think like that BUT you would do well to be very careful about believing along the lines you believe at present, if indeed you believe at all.

In case you have not read your Bible, Jesus died while we were still sinners, that is you, me and everyone and He died for the sin of the world, not mine only but yours also. Your reasoning suggests that i might as well have been cast into the fire and even aborted because i was not born again before i was even born. That goes for you although i do not think you understand that. If you did, you would not write as you have, seemingly justifying murder of unborn babies because you have a warped idea about them being the devil's children.

Those who Jesus referred to as of the devil were men who chose to defy God, The were not unborn babies.

I suggest you think about this and pray, if you know how, and ask for better understanding of what you so write.

While a child may have unbelieving parents, what right do you have or anyone else on the planet, to rob them of the same breath that you enjoy?


Bless you ....><>
You love the devil and his children.

True or false?
 
When were they born of water and Spirit?

The offspring of the children of the devil are the children of the devils.

The children of the devil do not produce children of God
As their offspring.
When did they sin? They are not even capable of sinning. For Judas it would have been better if he had not been born. For such is the Kingdom. I take that as if he died in the whomb he would have gone to heaven.
One guy said the little rebels cry to get attention. That's their sin. Come on now. I hope his wife took care of their kids. Goodness.
Will Jesus judge babies cause they couldnt hold a milk bottle and give one of His brothers some milk? I don't believe that. Aborted babies are raised by angels. At least some plus side of the murder.
 
I got saved because as a kid I was looking for eternal life, so I went looking for God. I didn't know where my twin brother went. He died in the whomb.
 
I simply do NOT like the term 'Heathen'. It sounds totally barbaric.
It is used for unbelievers, but heathen was just not Jewish. I always say heathen christians in Dutch, since we only have one word for it, not gentile, heiden, christians who are not Jewish.
Ppl in my family who aren't saved yet we refer to as about to be christians. Lol my son asked my dad if he believed in God. Grandma says: yes. He looks at me like: mmmm okay.. I say: yes you're a believer, but you don't realize it yet lol.
Maybe we take this Word of Faith thing of don't speak negative a bit too far, but I refuse to say anything else than not saved yet.
 
It would be funny to say that to a Jewish atheist on a forum who's really nasty now and God is evil he says. They're always super respectful cause he's Jewish. Hey you heathen! Makes no sense.
 
When did they sin? They are not even capable of sinning. For Judas it would have been better if he had not been born. For such is the Kingdom. I take that as if he died in the whomb he would have gone to heaven.
One guy said the little rebels cry to get attention. That's their sin. Come on now. I hope his wife took care of their kids. Goodness.
Will Jesus judge babies cause they couldnt hold a milk bottle and give one of His brothers some milk? I don't believe that. Aborted babies are raised by angels. At least some plus side of the murder.
You love the devil and his children.

True or false?
 
You love the devil and his children.

True or false?
I hate annoying answers and the devil and his children and not aborted babies, else the satanist I spoke is right, that murdering them is the most christian thing to do and the ones killing them would do God a favor.
 
I hate annoying answers and the devil and his children and not aborted babies, else the satanist I spoke is right, that murdering them is the most christian thing to do and the ones killing them would do God a favor.
The children of the devil murdering their babies by aborting them are not Christians nor are they of God you sure do say a lot of things that are incorrect are you aware of it?
 
The children of the devil murdering their babies by aborting them are not Christians nor are they of God you sure do say a lot of things that are incorrect are you aware of it?
Their babies are not children of the devil. If they grow up to be Hitler they are though. Those parents can get saved. An abortion doctor got saved when he saw the faces of the kids he murdered in heaven.
So yes I believe we should love those too and pray they repent.
 
The children of the devil murdering their babies by aborting them are not Christians nor are they of God you sure do say a lot of things that are incorrect are you aware of it?
No I wasn't. I guess you're right. I thought Jesus only called ppl who couldnt repent children of satan but I looked it up to prove it to you and John says this:


Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
The Imperative of Love
10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor ishe who does not love his brother.
 
No I wasn't. I guess you're right. I thought Jesus only called ppl who couldnt repent children of satan but I looked it up to prove it to you and John says this:


Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
The Imperative of Love
10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor ishe who does not love his brother.
I guess you think little children that are children of God magically turn into children of the devil I also guess you think that all those children of the devil we're born of God and not by the devil a baby chick grows up to be a chicken a child of the devil is a child of the devil in the womb.

A child of God is a child of God in the womb a child of the devil does not become magically a child of God and a child of God does not become magically a child of the devil just like a puppy does not become a bear and a cub does not become a dog the children of God do not abort their children therefore there Are no children of God aborted only the children of the devil are aborted by their parents the devils which are the children of the devil s.

I know who you Are and that is why you are saying what you are saying to me.
 
I guess you think little children that are children of God magically turn into children of the devil I also guess you think that all those children of the devil we're born of God and not by the devil a baby chick grows up to be a chicken a child of the devil is a child of the devil in the womb.

A child of God is a child of God in the womb a child of the devil does not become magically a child of God and a child of God does not become magically a child of the devil just like a puppy does not become a bear and a cub does not become a dog the children of God do not abort their children therefore there Are no children of God aborted only the children of the devil are aborted by their parents the devils which are the children of the devil s.

I know who you Are and that is why you are saying what you are saying to me.
Then how come we were once children of satan and then got reborn, according to that text of John. Cause if you mean someone who never can be saved is a child of the devil, yes sure, those were always children from the devil from birth, but the Adam nature, the flesh is also a child from the devil and that can be destroyed in the ones who are foreknown. I believe that even Judas, who was a devil even He called him, would have gone to heaven if he had died in the whomb. Why else would Jesus say that it would have been better for him? A baby in the whomb is incapable of sinning. Then they are innocent. He says who makes one of those little ones sin, it would have been better if he got a mill stone around his neck. So before he taught em to sin, they didn't sin. A baby is innocent. Later they choose good or evil. They cannot choose evil that age.
At least that's just what I think. Not totally sure, cause Jacob deceived his brother in the whomb, it says. I just can't imagine an unborn baby sinning.
There's also that text: before the kid knows good and evil
 
Even the devil was first a good angel and then iniquity was found in him and he sinned. He wasn't always a devil.
 
I know that abortion is evil and murder, but because I believe they go to heaven, when some abusive parents have done abortion, I'm actually happy for the kid, cause now he can't grow up and reject Jesus and go to hell.
 
2 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.
Jesus Warns of Offenses
6 “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

10 “Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven. 11 For[c] the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.
12 “What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying? 13 And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheepthan over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.


Deuteronomy 1:39

Deuteronomy 1:39 New King James Version (NKJV)
39 ‘Moreover your little ones and your children, who you say will be victims, who today have no knowledge of good and evil, they shall go in there; to them I will give it, and they shall possess it.
 
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