Behind every Ahab is a Jezebel

[Godbehonored]

From all that I have experienced about evil women trying to manipulate men to destroy relationships I have with men, I notice a pattern of Jezebel-Ahab.

The evil woman is a Jezebel and the man who gets manipulated is an Ahab. The Jezebel first used seduction to lure in the Ahab to like her (the seduction is not limited to sexual but also playing the good cop to make Ahab think she is a good woman), then plants lies and suspicions about her target, ie. me, so that the Ahab will side with her against me. This has been a repeated pattern in every situation like this.

How did anyone with similar situations handle this other than prayers?

 

[joestue]

My wife and I just had our official family wedding and it brought some interesting characters out of the darkness.

I hate to say it but I've almost gotten used to being able to give her prophetic advice that she doesn't want to follow but it works out if she follows it, if she doesn't what usually happens is she gets emotionally worked up and then the truth comes out later... But she could have been at peace the whole time and let God deal with the problem.

She has 3 generations of cluster b personality disorders on both sides of her family due to intergenerational trauma, everything from external abuse by predictors, to the lingering effects of her dad's family surviving the failed japanese assault on the igurot tribe in the Philippians. So there is no shortage of confusion and lies and manipulation and gaslighting, but it's not intentional by all family members, just some of them and it's hard to tell for sure which ones.

Anyhow my brother seems to have been.. not seduced, but he can't see his girlfriends behavior as toxic and manipulative. Neither could my other brother until he and his wife started going to therapy and she started to understand her immaturity.


My mom is dissociative disorder or BPD not sure for sure which because she actually has substantially matured in the last decade (she is 72 now) But as a direct result of her complete lack of emotional connection to us in early childhood, all of us ended up in long term relationships with cluster b personality disorder partners (because we were genuinely nice guys and did not see their emotional immaturity as a problem but rather as normal). I might have had the best fortune as my wife is a Christian and God seems to be substantially available immediately to fix problems.

Ahab and jezebel specific issues adds a whole new layer of demonic motivation to destroy other people and so you can only pray about it, therapy can fix it if they want to change but therapy can't open their eyes to a demon.

Some of my wife's issues with her sister evaporated after I prayed against something, not sure what it was, but that is just the most recent example of hundreds of cases over the last 4 years.


In the case of the woman who seduced me when I was 5 to 7 years old, I ended up in a relationship with her again when I was 24 (a decade ago) and my PTSD from that only went away after 3 years of prayer starting in 2017.

 

[Godbehonored]

Why is there so much spiritual blindness going on in the world…

 

[joestue]

Why is there so much spiritual blindness going on in the world…

Always has been but people only lived to be 40 to 55 years of age and didn't have much time to deal with it. Today we have a million books on the subject but few ever ask for the greater gifts. Also few want to get involved in other peoples problems.

Also unless you are a prophet or have an anointing, you are not going to get spiritual knowledge of anyone else's problems. Only your own, or wife or children's, as they are supposed to be under your authority.

So few mature past the spiritual needs of their own household because they aren't discipling anyone else

 

[Godbehonored]

Always has been but people only lived to be 40 to 55 years of age and didn't have much time to deal with it. Today we have a million books on the subject but few ever ask for the greater gifts. Also few want to get involved in other peoples problems.

Also unless you are a prophet or have an anointing, you are not going to get spiritual knowledge of anyone else's problems. Only your own, or wife or children's, as they are supposed to be under your authority.

So few mature past the spiritual needs of their own household because they aren't discipling anyone else

Men of today don’t even see the evil right before their eyes. An evil woman seduces them and they don’t see anything wrong with the woman even if the actions of the woman are questionable.

I just want to leave this world behind

 

[Godbehonored]

Always has been but people only lived to be 40 to 55 years of age and didn't have much time to deal with it. Today we have a million books on the subject but few ever ask for the greater gifts. Also few want to get involved in other peoples problems.

Also unless you are a prophet or have an anointing, you are not going to get spiritual knowledge of anyone else's problems. Only your own, or wife or children's, as they are supposed to be under your authority.

So few mature past the spiritual needs of their own household because they aren't discipling anyone else

Men are tolerant of women who are flirty with every man (signs of disloyalty), who manipulate every man, who have no morals, who are selfish and the list goes on, all in the name of love. If you tolerate someone living in immorality and sin how is that loving them? A man should lead by example and rebuke evil women, instead they spoil them like brats.

Have men of today lost all common sense?

 

[Godbehonored]

Always has been but people only lived to be 40 to 55 years of age and didn't have much time to deal with it. Today we have a million books on the subject but few ever ask for the greater gifts. Also few want to get involved in other peoples problems.

Also unless you are a prophet or have an anointing, you are not going to get spiritual knowledge of anyone else's problems. Only your own, or wife or children's, as they are supposed to be under your authority.

So few mature past the spiritual needs of their own household because they aren't discipling anyone else

I can safely say 99% of men today are Ahabs. Just look at the mess of Ahabs tolerating Jezebel’s evil ways in marriages and relationships. It’s disgusting to watch.

Tolerance of evil is anti love, but men of today don’t see it that way.

 

[Godbehonored]

Always has been but people only lived to be 40 to 55 years of age and didn't have much time to deal with it. Today we have a million books on the subject but few ever ask for the greater gifts. Also few want to get involved in other peoples problems.

Also unless you are a prophet or have an anointing, you are not going to get spiritual knowledge of anyone else's problems. Only your own, or wife or children's, as they are supposed to be under your authority.

So few mature past the spiritual needs of their own household because they aren't discipling anyone else

Even more so, evil women get treated better in relationships than women who are kinder. That is how men of today treat women in general, what is wrong with men hmm?

 

[joestue]

It's all a matter of entropy.

Don't take it personally.

 

[Godbehonored]

It's all a matter of entropy.

Don't take it personally.

I call it wilful ignorance and stupidity.

Man are not man and thus woman can no longer be woman.

 

[joestue]

You think men are responsible for women?

I agree that men and women both need to teach their daughters to resist the desites of the flesh, and do so before they reach puberty which is as early as 6 yrs of age. But few do that.

 

[Godbehonored]

You think men are responsible for women?

I agree that men and women both need to teach their daughters to resist the desites of the flesh, and do so before they reach puberty which is as early as 6 yrs of age. But few do that.

It is men who choose a mate. It is men who are the spiritual head of the family.

When men consistently choose Jezebels it encourages women to become Jezebels.

When men consistently act like Ahabs and tolerate the evil of Jezebels it destroys relationships. Jezebels become more evil and they tear down other women who aren’t Jezebels. Women who aren’t Jezebels don’t even get a chance to get a good husband because men don’t choose them.

Men are responsible 100%.

 

[Godbehonored]

You think men are responsible for women?

I agree that men and women both need to teach their daughters to resist the desites of the flesh, and do so before they reach puberty which is as early as 6 yrs of age. But few do that.

Teaching women is one part only. If men are wilfully ignorant and don’t step up to be men, Jezebels will still rise up. What is the use of teaching women to be virtuous and godly when men will only abuse, use and abandon them for Jezebels???

 

[Godbehonored]

Is it just me or do I feel that men are more like men in the Old Testament?

 

[Godbehonored]

The most ludicrous thing is, those Ahabs get into toxic relationships with Jezebels, get themselves burned into a mush. Then only then do they come back for good women and start appreciating them. LMAO, men of today are born masochists? I would reject those broken Ahabs in a heartbeat.

 

[Godbehonored]

Now I understand why God gives His idolatrous people over to suffering. They deserved it. They prefer idols who only use and abuse them over God who truly loves them. Their suffering is punishment for their wrong choices. This entire world population is a masochist population, we prefer evil gods over the only true God, serves us right then that we suffer!

 

[joestue]

Now I understand why God gives His idolatrous people over to suffering. They deserved it.

its not even necessary for God to give them over to it, its cause and effect. the wages of sin is death. God doesn't pay the wages...

its like walking into a casino and thinking you can beat the system. you lost the moment you stepped foot in the door!

 

[Brother Paul]

Why is there so much spiritual blindness going on in the world…

It is like the cycle of birthing contractions, and right now it is again getting much worse. It will get worse unless Christ is formed in them. Matthew 25:31-46 is key to what His Spirit becomes in each of us who are being conformed to His image. Those who do not have this Spirit are none of His (Romans 8:9). We see this in the five unwise virgins who are in the Church doing all the Churchianity stuff while waiting His return. Once properly announced they will scatter, flitting about at the last moment to obtain what they should have already had in place and as He shuts them out He will say "I do not know you" and some will say "But Lord did we not do this and that in YOUR Name?" and He will say unto them "I never knew you".

 

[Brother Paul]

Now I understand why God gives His idolatrous people over to suffering. They deserved it. They prefer idols who only use and abuse them over God who truly loves them. Their suffering is punishment for their wrong choices. This entire world population is a masochist population, we prefer evil gods over the only true God, serves us right then that we suffer!

No! Their suffering is the natural consequence of their choices, not punishment from God. It is not that they are masochistic, they just believe their way is best for them. It is the true nature of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge to become like a god (Lord of your own life) deciding good and evil as appears right in your own eyes.

 

[Brother Paul]

its not even necessary for God to give them over to it, its cause and effect. the wages of sin is death. God doesn't pay the wages...

its like walking into a casino and thinking you can beat the system. you lost the moment you stepped foot in the door!

Exactly!