Bibles deliberately changed and the doom of Christianity

[Jonathan_Gale]

What you are saying is not the great falling away. Look again at what Paul wrote:

2 Thessalonians 2:3 NKJV

Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

When the falling away occurs the man of sin is revealed too. That has not happened.

The world today as a whole is looking for a messiah, a false one (man of sin) according to Paul. This has not happened and will happen when the fall away happens, ie. the complete destruction of the Christian religion. Christianity will cease to exist, this has been planned by Satan’s agents like Alice Bailey for a very long time.

Along with this destruction of Christianity will be the falling away from the Christian faith of many religious people in organised churches. They will no longer believe in the Jesus preached by the apostles, and will believe in the false messiah who comes in the name of Jesus. Bibles by then will have verses edited to support this man of sin.

People who are ridiculing those who oppose scriptural corruptions will be amongst the first to be deceived by this man of sin. God will send them a strong delusion precisely because they show by their tolerance of scriptural corruption that they don’t love the truth. Which is why I am calling this out now.

I think the model for 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is the arrest in the Garden of Gasthename. It's not gonna be some kind of a dictator sitting in a rebuilt third temple exalting himself as god, but rather a equivalent of Judas selling out all the true Christians to the authority, then the congregation will be scattered, just like the disciples.

On the other hand, that would be the official fulfillment of the "times of the Gentiles", Israel as a whole will finally accept Yeshua as their long expected Messiah. And they'll be preserved till Jesus returns.

 

[Godbehonored]

I think the model for 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is the arrest in the Garden of Gasthename. It's not gonna be some kind of a dictator sitting in a rebuilt third temple exalting himself as god, but rather a equivalent of Judas selling out all the true Christians to the authority, then the congregation will be scattered, just like the disciples.

On the other hand, that would be the official fulfillment of the "times of the Gentiles", Israel as a whole will finally accept Yeshua as their long expected Messiah. And they'll be preserved till Jesus returns.

That is your interpretation, and it is clearly wrong. When 2 Thessalonians was written Jesus had already risen into heaven and the arrest of Jesus is already a past event. Paul was writing about the future and referring to something that has not yet happened.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

That is your interpretation, and it is clearly wrong. When 2 Thessalonians was written Jesus had already risen into heaven and the arrest of Jesus is already a past event. Paul was writing about the future and referring to something that has not yet happened.

No you didn't get it. I said it was a MODEL. Similiar event may take place at the end times. Think about it, neither Pilate, Caiaphus, King Herod nor Tiberius Caesar was "revealed', they had already been there and everybody knew they were there and hated them. The man of sin who was finally revealed was none other than Judas Iscariot. Would it really be a surprise when there's Judas who leads the gestepo to come after all of us? That the Church, as the BODY of Christ, must go through the trial and execution that Jesus had gone through?

 

[Godbehonored]

I think the model for 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is the arrest in the Garden of Gasthename. It's not gonna be some kind of a dictator sitting in a rebuilt third temple exalting himself as god, but rather a equivalent of Judas selling out all the true Christians to the authority, then the congregation will be scattered, just like the disciples.

On the other hand, that would be the official fulfillment of the "times of the Gentiles", Israel as a whole will finally accept Yeshua as their long expected Messiah. And they'll be preserved till Jesus returns.

I correct myself. I misread what you wrote and thought you believe it was a past event of Jesus being arrested. But I still don’t believe you are right about this. No one nowadays can even tell the difference between true and false Christians, every single congregation and denomination proclaims to be true Christians and it’s impossible for any Judas figure to point to any specific group of believers as true or false let alone sell them out.

Edit: it does not matter how this turns out. My prediction that Christianity will be destroyed as a religion is still going to happen.

 

[Godbehonored]

No you didn't get it. I said it was a MODEL. Similiar event may take place at the end times. Think about it, neither Pilate, Caiaphus, King Herod nor Tiberius Caesar was "revealed', they had already been there and everybody knew they were there and hated them. The man of sin who was finally revealed was none other than Judas Iscariot. Would it really be a surprise when there's Judas who leads the gestepo to come after all of us? That the Church, as the BODY of Christ, must go through the trial and execution that Jesus had gone through?

That does not contradict what I say. If this kind of global massacre of faithful Christians occur Christianity will still be destroyed as a religion. Those who are afraid of deaths will deny Jesus and Christianity will cease to exist because all faithful believers would have been killed by then. Bible changes will be used to support this man of sin regardless. So what’s the argument?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I correct myself. I misread what you wrote and thought you believe it was a past event of Jesus being arrested. But I still don’t believe you are right about this. No one nowadays can even tell the difference between true and false Christians, every single congregation and denomination proclaims to be true Christians and it’s impossible for any Judas figure to point to any specific group of believers as true or false let alone sell them out.

Edit: it does not matter how this turns out. My prediction that Christianity will be destroyed as a religion is still going to happen.

Of course you can. See who oppose clot shot mandate, abortion, child grooming, homosexuality, critical race theory, etc. See who truly obey God rather than man. If you think those are pesty political issues that should not be brought up in the church for the sake of unity of the body and the "separation of church and state", you are greatly deceived.

 

[Godbehonored]

Of course you can. See who oppose clot shot mandate, abortion, child grooming, homosexuality, critical race theory, etc. See who truly obey God rather than man. If you think those are pesty political issues that should not be brought up in the church for the sake of unity of the body and the "separation of church and state", you are greatly deceived.

It does not matter to me whether there is a man of sin sitting in a third temple or whether there will be a Judas figure selling out Christians. Persecution is bound to happen and not new to me.

What does matter to me is that people are completely blind to the fact that the Bibles are being supernaturally corrupted to support this coming Judas or man of sin. People are completely blind that Christianity as a religion will eventually be destroyed (this is foretold both in Bible prophesy and carried out over long time by Satan’s agents).

Those who have their faith in a religion and their foundation on men’s teachings rather than YAH will fall away from their faith because of their blindness and tolerance of Scriptural corruption.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

It does not matter to me whether there is a man of sin sitting in a third temple or whether there will be a Judas figure selling out Christians. Persecution is bound to happen and not new to me.

What does matter to me is that people are completely blind to the fact that the Bibles are being supernaturally corrupted to support this coming Judas or man of sin. People are completely blind that Christianity as a religion will eventually be destroyed (this is foretold both in Bible prophesy and carried out over long time by Satan’s agents).

Those who have their faith in a religion and their foundation on men’s teachings rather than YAH will fall away from their faith because of their blindness and tolerance of Scriptural corruption.

Christianity is never supposed to be a religion to begin with, it's a relationship with God - and other people in the community. The so called "christendom" is long gone for good. And most churches use NKJV, NASB or ESV, no other obviously corrupt version is adopted. If key verses just as Romans 1:26-27 are twisted so crossing of those lines that I mentioned above can be justified, then it'll be easily and quickly detected. People are smarter that you think.

 

[Godbehonored]

Christianity is never supposed to be a religion to begin with, it's a relationship with God - and other people in the community. The so called "christendom" is long gone for good. And most churches use NKJV, NASB or ESV, no other obviously corrupt version is adopted. If key verses just as Romans 1:26-27 are twisted so crossing of those lines that I mentioned above can be justified, then it'll be easily and quickly detected. People are smarter that you think.

Yet it had been a religion since Constantine took over. People are following religion and men’s teachings since then and given the false idea they cannot understand the Scriptures without theology, yet another man made system.

Time will tell just how dark things will be, and I am prepared for the worse. I won’t be shocked if the Bible texts start denying Jesus as the messiah and renouncing him as Word made flesh one day. Both are signs of the antichrist spirit already influencing many religious people today.

If Jesus saw the religious people in his day as the most deceived and evil, then you can expect the same today for religious Christianity. Both groups of religious people are so subjugated by the devil they think they are serving God when they can’t even recognise the true messiah from the false.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Yet it had been a religion since Constantine took over. People are following religion and men’s teachings since then and given the false idea they cannot understand the Scriptures without theology, yet another man made system.

Time will tell just how dark things will be, and I am prepared for the worse. I won’t be shocked if the Bible texts start denying Jesus as the messiah and renouncing him as Word made flesh one day. Both are signs of the antichrist spirit already influencing many religious people today.

If Jesus saw the religious people in his day as the most deceived and evil, then you can expect the same today for religious Christianity. Both groups of religious people are so subjugated by the devil they think they are serving God when they can’t even recognise the true messiah from the false.

What's the point of being such a Debbie Downer being so pessimistic？And beating everybody up, putting this "religious" label on them?

 

[Godbehonored]

What's the point of being such a Debbie Downer being so pessimistic？And beating everybody up, putting this "religious" label on them?

The point is people need to start waking up and stop ignoring God’s warning to come out of Babylon in book of revelation lest you share in her plagues and sins. If you remain in religion you remain in Babylon and will reap the consequences.

Rev 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

The point is people need to start waking up and stop ignoring God’s warning to come out of Babylon in book of revelation lest you share in her plagues and sins. If you remain in religion you remain in Babylon and will reap the consequences.

Rev 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues.

A tree is known by its fruit, not its leaves. What's important is what they do, not what they say or what bible version they prefer.

 

[GodB4Us]

Do people not find it ironic that those who worship the Bibles as the inerrant word of God actually defend the evil changes to the Scriptures rather than calling it out in hopes that this evil corruption of Scriptures is stopped? Yet they who commit this kind of Bible idolatry don’t even go on their knees for God to stop what is happening and would rather ignore, overlook, dismiss, excuse the evil changes done to the books they claim to be inerrant.

Those who do call out evil for what it is, those who do oppose the corruption of the Scriptures are labelled and name called with terms like narcissist, prideful, entitled etc by those who are deluded into thinking they are honouring God by allowing/excusing Scriptural corruption. Still they don’t see how Satan is the one behind their beliefs.

Prophet Isaiah said woe to those who call evil good and good evil. If people who call themselves Christians are accepting of the corruption of Scriptures, it just shows the kind of faith they truly have.

I find it ironic that you are not pushing any Bible version to rely on.

So what is your suggestion? Read the Greek & Hebrew? Funny how those who claim they do this are not agreeing with each other when translating into English for what His words are meaning.

I trust the Lord that for whatever changes that are in error as claimed by anti-KJVOers, the message has not been changed so that I can use the meat of His words in the KJV to discern good and evil by His grace & by His help from what the modern Bibles do not do BUT actually change the message in His words that it supports false teachings when used out of context of that modern Bible version but the KJV does not.

So what is your suggestion? What is your Bible version? What scripture can you pull out to correct others by unless you are planning to disregard all scripture while using scripture to do that? Kind of an oxymoron thing to do, brother.