Charlie Kirk

[Gerbolski]

anyhow, christians have always had to meet in secret. always.

you want to be the next charlie Kirk... you need to be ready to be killed. its just how it is.

Jesus told us to be screwed as serpents and wise as doves.

Paul tells us to live a quiet life. well... he didn't. maybe he was speaking from experience.

Hi Joestue, how ya doing ?

Yes many sites that are called Christian are dying, and some are actually not of God to begin with, and some God actually wants dead, because he is not in it.

When we read the bible, it seems that one thing that the apostle Paul and others did, is sought the Lord's face, and sought the leading of the Spirit, and there are times God said no go not into that city or place, other times he did allow such and such, we do need to let our light shine in the darkness, but also have discernment, and go by God's leading.

There are some who go into the fire with people in trying to change them, but they end up being changed, so we must guard our hearts, and carefully walk with God, and know his heart even on the present matter.

Is it wise to be on every Christian site you can think of, no, but as the Lord directs you, do so, but carefully walk with God.

As you say Joestue be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove.

 

[Gerbolski]

Ya in certain cases, we may have to meet in secret, and be careful of ecumenicalism, which purports to be true unity, but is not.

Ecumenicalism is infiltrating everything, it seems even TPUSA.

 

[joestue]

When we read the bible, it seems that one thing that the apostle Paul and others did, is sought the Lord's face, and sought the leading of the Spirit, and there are times God said no go not into that city or place, other times he did allow such and such, we do need to let our light shine in the darkness, but also have discernment, and go by God's leading.

Yes if we want to be effective in ministry, we have to understand fully what Jesus meant when he said apart from me you can do nothing.

The internet is dying in terms of usefulness for public discord. All the information everyone puts on it is being vacuumed up and recorded forever. And will likely be used against you, forever.

I have heard a few plausibly accurate accounts from as far back as as 15 years ago in which the fbi Investigated a juvenile or young adult for making a bomb threat online. The feds showed up to his parents house with on the order of 2 bankers boxes of his internet history, just to scare him with how much they knew about.

Back in 2005 i creeped out a handful of my highschool acquaintances by suggesting we build a database of every unique person on the internet by scraping all the data you can. (Myspace was the biggest but there were like 70 others).

Today everyone has an understanding that the advertisers already did that...

 

[MedicBravo]

Hey MedicBravo, what does MSM stand for ?

Main Stream Media

 

[Bill]

Ohh id probably be banned I'm banned from a few sights..

Thanks for letting me know what they r tho

Hope all's well

(⁠ʘ⁠ᴗ⁠ʘ⁠✿⁠)

Me too, I'm banned from a few sites.

 

[Rad]

Hello Rad,
I thought the entire episode in question would benefit anyone interested. I also added a Snopes review, which of course is not conservative to see their thoughts.

Thanks for sharing. It's good to look at the entirety of man before coming to a decision, but as a Christian we also know that we all fall short in one way or another. Only Jesus is that perfect one that we should look to.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 33 — The Big Fani Whammy? Glee? Kill Pedos?

In this week’s ThoughtCrime, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Neff engage with many compelling questions, including: -Was the TV show Glee the "plague ship of wokeness"? -Should pe

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What Charlie Kirk actually said about whether children should watch public executions

Kirk said during a 2024 podcast that watching executions of convicted criminals would be an "initiation" for children.

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Thanks for that reply Nick, it helped to put it into context, from the video i watched it looked like Charlie Kirk was endorsing 12 year olds being executed, now it seems he was endorsing children watching executions, although an age of consent wasnt specified, it still seems far from Christs teaching, obviously the taking of anothers life was OK with him and he considered himself able to cast the first stone, i have come across other quotes and videos where Charlie was talking about some Black women not having the Brain power of whites and that if he saw a black pilot flying his plane he'd ask to see their qualifications, i've seen him saying that MLK jnr "was awful, Hes not a good person" and was critical of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 banning discrimination against Black people and that he believed gun deaths and mass shootings were "worth it", heres the quote "Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.". I hear what you say about none of us being perfect, but when do we get to the point where are words and actions are so contrary to the faith we profess as to make that faith meaningless. Can you imagine Christ agreeing with any of the things Charlie Kirk said?.,

 

[Rad]

When Jesus saw an evil spirit in someone, He would often cast it out. The person would be left with the choice to let evil invade again or to protect himself with a "strong man" (The Holy Spirit is the strong man in me that protects me from such invasion). But we dont have the inclination or ability due to seperation between church and state to cast any evil spirit out of evil people. We must be content to let God's chosen authorities found amoung human justice systems to deal with the evil in people. And perhaps you like evil people (we are not talking about minor sins here) to be free to commit more and more evil upon others, but me being sane and wanting a justice in this world and knowing it will happen in the next, I want to see swift justice for the sake of those who cry out for justice. Sometimes even people who we consider underage (it varies with cultures and history) do terribly evil things and laugh about the crimes in front of those who seek justice... thinking they are free to do more due to their age. In some cases where I see no repentence, I would be glad to see the death penalty given, broadcast publicly for the sake of the other evil people out there. Often its only the threat of death that would make people fearful of retribution and cut down on such violent crimes. They shut down mental institutions and can only jail for a time evil people, who often come out more evil than they did when they were incarcerated. Perhaps you like a world filled with evil people who are given free reign to commit more and more evil. I dont. But back to topic. Post a link to said video where I can see if some parts of the video was left out to try and make him look bad. You were pretty vague about it.

Hi Brad, Heres that video you requested, the relevant part is at 5:27, i'll reply to your post fully when i have more time

 

[Brad Huber]

Hi Brad, Heres that video you requested, the relevant part is at 5:27, i'll reply to your post fully when i have more time

that was a consolidation of short clips, again I mentioned that its not a good idea to make judgements against charlie until you watch all of the speech in each controversial clip.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Thanks for that reply Nick, it helped to put it into context, from the video i watched it looked like Charlie Kirk was endorsing 12 year olds being executed, now it seems he was endorsing children watching executions, although an age of consent wasnt specified, it still seems far from Christs teaching, obviously the taking of anothers life was OK with him and he considered himself able to cast the first stone, i have come across other quotes and videos where Charlie was talking about some Black women not having the Brain power of whites and that if he saw a black pilot flying his plane he'd ask to see their qualifications, i've seen him saying that MLK jnr "was awful, Hes not a good person" and was critical of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 banning discrimination against Black people and that he believed gun deaths and mass shootings were "worth it", heres the quote "Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.". I hear what you say about none of us being perfect, but when do we get to the point where are words and actions are so contrary to the faith we profess as to make that faith meaningless. Can you imagine Christ agreeing with any of the things Charlie Kirk said?.,

No I can't, and I'm sure Christ won't be agreeing with any of us in all we say and do as well. There in is the issue. We truly attempt to be Christ like in word and deed, but fail miserably, but we continue on in our walk. When we do wrong, we ask forgiveness and try to correct the wrong done. The problem now with Charlie Kirk, is that he'll not have that opportunity to do so. While we still can.

I don't seek to lift him up, but rather Christ through what he was able to accomplish, and say, if we focus on the Gospel portion of what he communicated. Focus on the flesh, and that is all you will get. Seek the perfect communicator that walks the perfect walk, and you have only Jesus, which is as it should be, but then should everyone else just shut up and not say anything, in the face of evil, and great wrong that we know exists in the world today?

So, pointing out the wrong things he has said is fine, but if you don't balance the positive things he has said as well, then whose work are we really doing here? That is why I added the original full content that I could find. We've become too accustomed to hearing/seeing short clips, that context is never considered, and it is seen as encapsulating truth, the complete truth. When we who study scripture, know this is never the case. Only God knows it all. The good and the evil. (Proverbs 15:3)

I admired the young man, for what he was attempting to do. We who have worked in the world as believers have always walked the fine line between spreading the Gospel to those who don't believe, and going against the work requirements that many times says we should not. Brother Kirk, found a way to have a conversation at some of the most liberal, anti-religious places in the world, and still was able to share the Gospel as well. Find some of those clips and share them as well. I would almost guarantee that there are fewer of those, and the views even less, though he was aways up front with sharing his faith in Jesus Christ at almost every gathering he was the originator of!

So, search out more items he talked about that you know are not Christ like, or disagreed with, which could go either way, searching out context as it should be, but remember there's an old adage that makes a lot of sense "you don't throw the baby out with the dirty bath water". For when we attempt to defend our point of view in the matter; while disregarding the portions that are uplifting and true who does it benefit? It surely will surely benefit the adversary more than it does God. Though we are grateful that God can turn that which is meant for evil to good! Alleluia!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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[Jesua888]

Its been in the news big time. His assasination by a liberal kid who is gay and has a transgender boyfriend furry. The fallout from this terrible act seems to be a large movement in the Holy Spirit to bring alot of ppl closer to Jesus. Praise the Lord. Might this be the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in the last days? Triggered by a kind and loving man who loved Jesus and often said it on campus's around the world to young kids who are being molded by evil ppl to love communism, liberalism, and Islam and to hate anything that stands against them.

Father God turns everything that the enemy throws at us, into victory and His Glory!
I am hoping that this massive Movement continues to grow exponentially around the entire Planet

 

[Jesua888]

No I can't, and I'm sure Christ won't be agreeing with any of us in all we say and do as well. There in is the issue. We truly attempt to be Christ like in word and deed, but fail miserably, but we continue on in our walk. When we do wrong, we ask forgiveness and try to correct the wrong done. The problem now with Charlie Kirk, is that he'll not have that opportunity to do so. While we still can.

I don't seek to lift him up, but rather Christ through what he was able to accomplish, and say, if we focus on the Gospel portion of what he communicated. Focus on the flesh, and that is all you will get. Seek the perfect communicator that walks the perfect walk, and you have only Jesus, which is as it should be, but then should everyone else just shut up and not say anything, in the face of evil, and great wrong that we know exists in the world today?

So, pointing out the wrong things he has said is fine, but if you don't balance the positive things he has said as well, then whose work are we really doing here? That is why I added the original full content that I could find. We've become too accustomed to hearing/seeing short clips, that context is never considered, and it is seen as encapsulating truth, the complete truth. When we who study scripture, know this is never the case. Only God knows it all. The good and the evil. (Proverbs 15:3)

I admired the young man, for what he was attempting to do. We who have worked in the world as believers have always walked the fine line between spreading the Gospel to those who don't believe, and going against the work requirements that many times says we should not. Brother Kirk, found a way to have a conversation at some of the most liberal, anti-religious places in the world, and still was able to share the Gospel as well. Find some of those clips and share them as well. I would almost guarantee that there are fewer of those, and the views even less, though he was aways up front with sharing his faith in Jesus Christ at almost every gathering he was the originator of!

So, search out more items he talked about that you know are not Christ like, or disagreed with, which could go either way, searching out context as it should be, but remember there's an old adage that makes a lot of sense "you don't throw the baby out with the dirty bath water". For when we attempt to defend our point of view in the matter; while disregarding the portions that are uplifting and true who does it benefit? It surely will surely benefit the adversary more than it does God. Though we are grateful that God can turn that which is meant for evil to good! Alleluia!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Brother Nick,
Thank You for your amazing response, and teaching ... keeping us level headed and grounded.
Blessings to U Brother, Linda xx