Chastity

[farout]

This is wrong... She is coming to spend the night at my house tonight! When she told me I didn't have it in me to tell her no. I don't know what to do. All of you will just look down on me. I just want a family with her, why is this so wrong. I am again in tears. And again repressing my emotions because my moral fiber just says "I don't care!" However, I DO CARE. I don't want to get mad again. I don't want to upset her. I want us to unite. Someone please help!

Dawg: You are right "This is wrong..." No one looks down on you, many are trying to toss you a life raft in a sea of sharks. The tears you are crying come from quilt, because you know morally and spiritually that you are drifting further away from the I AM you know does not turn His head away form sin. Yes you do care or you would not have made this post. There is no reason to get mad, but you do have reason to be angry that satan is using the love between the two of you and keeping true trust and real love from growing God's way. If you really love her and want a family the way Godwill bless then why don't you two get married? Here is the life raht get in or let the shark (satan) destroy what could have been between you two. It's all up to you to ask the Lord for help the TJ forum can only do so much, now do the manly Godly thing, NOW! Blessings Dawg you sure need it.

 

[DutchChristian]

This is wrong... She is coming to spend the night at my house tonight! When she told me I didn't have it in me to tell her no. I don't know what to do. All of you will just look down on me. I just want a family with her, why is this so wrong. I am again in tears. And again repressing my emotions because my moral fiber just says "I don't care!" However, I DO CARE. I don't want to get mad again. I don't want to upset her. I want us to unite. Someone please help!

Hello dear Cote Dawg,

You need to draw back if the temptation comes like that: RESIST the temptation and draw nigh to GOD yes think about GOD first and foremost!

No one yes NO - ONE, absolutely noone is more important then GOD, and the last thing you want is problems due to sin against God and against your own body and hers as well!

Talk with her, instruct her and be the Godly man that your friend so needs. Lead her not into sin but into righteousness! even if it is so hard you better back off the contact if temptation arises STEP UP and say: "No you won't come over tonight" yes even lock the door! for her so that she will not be able to come in. God should be that important to you! (to prevent sin and diseases and death as well)

What did The Lord Jesus Say how far we should go? (as in resisting sin, as an example to say)

Mark 9:
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

yes indeed sin is that serious of a ordeal! We must always resist it and never invite it closer if so we already went to far and went into the DANGER ZONE so then we MUST FLEE, Flee means RUN YYES RUN AWAY!! Lock the door, or run out of the room, literally RUN for you LIFE

2 Timothy 2:
22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

Tell her that you want no physical union because of what God demands and desires of us and you lead by example, you can show her for instance:

Hebrews 13:4

And ask her what she thinks of this Bible verse, memorize it even! and so you can talk about this subject with her, teach her why it is important to abstain until marriage! ask her to help you and you both eachother that you don't want to sin against God, tell her that fornication is a sin!

Talk about these things but be clear on one thing: do NOT fornicate! Place Focus on Jesus Christ instead!

Flee all temptation! Resist!

Temptation comes because you focus on it or her focus is on you to do it or you get carried away by the lust of the eye or the lust of the flesh that is why you should never be together with her in the same room (with a closed door) without someone else, and never ever have her "sleep over" as which man can resist that?

Also pray against the temptations, i know it helps one time i was almost in the DANGER ZONE but GOD Helped me and prevented it because beforehand i prayed for His Protection against any temptation!

GOD Rules!

Be wise and be encouraged today!

Focus not on the sin but focus must be on our Lord Jesus!

May God Strengthen you and build you more wisdom in Jesus Name Amen!
dutch

 

[Cote Dawg]

I'm sorry, I sinned against God. Am I cursed? We talked it over and we decided we are going to be married as soon as possible. God was all I could think about, but I know that sin became involved as well. I told her either we were getting married, and she felt it was time - or else I was going to have to avoid hanging out with her any more because our history of being together has always been us alone, for the most part, other than that we hang out with friends and family. Still, I know I committed evil or wrong doings, so now I will repent. I know now that when I committed to sin I gave myself over to suffering and loss or grief. I pray for this struggle. I pray for hope to others. I pray a deep abiding hunger for God to be forever instilled in ourselves. I want to minister. I want to learn. I want discipleship. I have this yearning or fear of loss, for God has received me even in the midst of committing adulterous acts. I accept Jesus as my savior now and pray communion in the lord rest within my soul. I have a heart that desires to commit no wrong doing, no evil acts of selfishness in disregard to others. I desire him now.

 

[Cote Dawg]

I want to talk to my pastor about marrying us. I've never confessed to him before. Would it be bad to not confess to him before getting him to marry us? I somehow feel like he deserves to know. If I didn't confess, would this be inviting the Devil into our sacred grounds, would the Devil be alongside us taking the vows if there was no confession of sin?

 

[DutchChristian]

I want to talk to my pastor about marrying us. I've never confessed to him before. Would it be bad to not confess to him before getting him to marry us? I somehow feel like he deserves to know. If I didn't confess, would this be inviting the Devil into our sacred grounds, would the Devil be alongside us taking the vows if there was no confession of sin?

Are you a Roman Catholic?

If so repent of it it is not The Way the Truth and The Life Jesus Christ!

We confess our sins to Jesus Christ we go straigth to Him!

 

[Brad Huber]

Are you a Roman Catholic?

If so repent of it it is not The Way the Truth and The Life Jesus Christ!

We confess our sins to Jesus Christ we go straigth to Him!

He is probably protestant. He said pastor instead of priest.

 

[B-A-C]

I want to talk to my pastor about marrying us. I've never confessed to him before. Would it be bad to not confess to him before getting him to marry us? I somehow feel like he deserves to know. If I didn't confess, would this be inviting the Devil into our sacred grounds, would the Devil be alongside us taking the vows if there was no confession of sin?

While I agree with DutchChristain here, and you should confess this to Jesus. (yes he is our high-priest). I think in terms of a Christian marriage it's good to confess this to your clergyman.
(Pastor, preacher, minister, elder, Christian counselor, etc..). I'm not sure I would go as far as to say you are cursed, but I would say un-confessed sin prevents us from being blessed.

1 Pet 3:7; You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.

Psa 32:3; When I kept silent about my sin, my body wasted away Through my groaning all day long.

Jas 5:16; Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

 

[Cote Dawg]

I started out Jehova's witness. I was then baptized (so it would seem) by holy spirit through my aunt. I did internet readings as I sought out my adventure to find truth in the lord, but now I attend Faith Community church where my fiancé's family attends (well only her mom goes now, presently), they are non denominational and very good people. Nothing to worry about there

 

[Cote Dawg]

I confessed to Christ Jesus. I wish to remain a faithful servant of the lord. I am so grateful for all that has been done and all the things in the bible that have been written and quoted by you all here, I am indebted to Christ. I have faith in the lord, and I can sense a pattern of growth in my faith. I am agreeing with Jesus like never before, so hopefully very soon I can get back on my walk with Jesus and go down the path of obedience. I am rich in love in the house of the lord. I fall short of the glory of God. Praise him!

 

[Cote Dawg]

I started out Jehova's witness. I was then baptized (so it would seem) by holy spirit through my aunt. I did internet readings as I sought out my adventure to find truth in the lord, but now I attend Faith Community church where my fiancé's family attends (well only her mom goes now, presently), they are non denominational and very good people. Nothing to worry about there

Actually, it might not have even been that I was baptized, it could be more on the level that I was saved by Jesus and my aunt led me on for it to be done. If there is a difference, I would appreciate if one of you told me. I would like to be baptized one day if this was not the case that I was saved rather than baptized.

 

[Brad Huber]

Being saved and being baptized are two seperate events although its possible in some cases they both happen to occur at the same time. If you havent been baptized yet, you need to, its a commandment, and we are to not hold back in our faith, especially in minor things, for if you are faithful in the minor things, the spiritual muscles are strengthened and you become stronger spiritually.

 

[Cote Dawg]

Being saved and being baptized are two seperate events although its possible in some cases they both happen to occur at the same time. If you havent been baptized yet, you need to, its a commandment, and we are to not hold back in our faith, especially in minor things, for if you are faithful in the minor things, the spiritual muscles are strengthened and you become stronger spiritually.

I don't know if both happened simultaneously or not. My experience was with my aunt outside one night and the spirit in the sky uncovered itself. You could say I saw the forest from the trees. I came back down to earth and my ego immediately took over. That was when I was about 17. It seemed so easy to find the highest I AM presence in that brief encounter with the holy ghost, or Jesus - whoever it was showed me we are all one nonetheless. Looking back on it, I didn't make any sort of commitment until it told me to be with the girl I am with now. And I think now this presence is bringing me closer again. I must be getting ready for baptism, for I fell in deep love with this God of mine who gave me this girl. I love her as Jesus loves the congregation. He is my focus. He has been for quite a while. I've felt like I lost him for quite some time but I am coming to find that he is right there waiting for us. He is I AM - The anchor for my place in this world.

 

[james1523]

I don't know if both happened simultaneously or not. My experience was with my aunt outside one night and the spirit in the sky uncovered itself. You could say I saw the forest from the trees. I came back down to earth and my ego immediately took over. That was when I was about 17. It seemed so easy to find the highest I AM presence in that brief encounter with the holy ghost, or Jesus - whoever it was showed me we are all one nonetheless. Looking back on it, I didn't make any sort of commitment until it told me to be with the girl I am with now. And I think now this presence is bringing me closer again. I must be getting ready for baptism, for I fell in deep love with this God of mine who gave me this girl. I love her as Jesus loves the congregation. He is my focus. He has been for quite a while. I've felt like I lost him for quite some time but I am coming to find that he is right there waiting for us. He is I AM - The anchor for my place in this world.

Regarding the issue of chastity, according to the Bible marriage is not the piece of paper or the wedding ceremony it's the sex. In God's eyes marriage is sex (1 Cor 6:16). When two people sleep together they have created the marriage bond, so they are married in God's eyes, the two have become one. That is probably why you already feel married. But just like a person needs to be baptized to show their faith... you still need the legal ceremony so your marriage is recognized by the laws of the land, otherwise it is like driving a car without a license. So please get married properly as soon as possible.

Also I am sensing that your experience of a spirit in the sky, is not the true God Jesus Christ, nor the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of Christ. The spirit of the air is actually satan (Eph 2:2). If you want to know Jesus Christ, you need to read and study the bible.. reading the book of John is a good start.

 

[Cote Dawg]

Regarding the issue of chastity, according to the Bible marriage is not the piece of paper or the wedding ceremony it's the sex. In God's eyes marriage is sex (1 Cor 6:16). When two people sleep together they have created the marriage bond, so they are married in God's eyes, the two have become one. That is probably why you already feel married. But just like a person needs to be baptized to show their faith... you still need the legal ceremony so your marriage is recognized by the laws of the land, otherwise it is like driving a car without a license. So please get married properly as soon as possible.

Also I am sensing that your experience of a spirit in the sky, is not the true God Jesus Christ, nor the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of Christ. The spirit of the air is actually satan (Eph 2:2). If you want to know Jesus Christ, you need to read and study the bible.. reading the book of John is a good start.

Sorry, but you are wrong if you think I haven't been reborn. Maybe I have fallen but that's what Christianity is about - when you do fall, Jesus is there to lift you back up. He who endures until the end... I am doing all I can to find my inner guide - my calling. I might not be trying or pushing myself as hard as my potential allows me, I am battling things in my life that prove to be difficult and sometimes I go through hard-knocks and even experience reproof, but I have faith in God above in my inner man, who is being renewed day after day as my outer man decays. Love is the most important lesson in my opinion. If you are comparing my salvation, my redeemer to some air element then you have the wrong impression of me. I feel I can agree with you on marriage. I think everything these people have said to me has only fed my fears and grief. Instead of telling me not to do it, you all should have been counseling me on taking up my cross - not avoiding sex. The more I run from her from sex the more we are becoming divided, the more grief I am experiencing because I feel remorse from what has been said. To be honest, I love having sex with her. I feel like we are experiencing God. I feel like WE ARE God Godding!! The second anyone tells me to stop what I am doing I become confused. No, I don't need help from anyone but God. He never told me not to have sex. He encourages sex through my partner. I have difficulty expressing myself, I understand now, I don't have to listen to anyone as long as I know what I am as well as being a listening spirit. Love has nothing and everything to do with sex. There is no duality in love. There is no lust. I love my partner. And I will survive!!

 

[DutchChristian]

hello dear Cote Dawg!

sin is sin we cannot ever talk good about it but i do agree with what you said i should have talked with you more on taking up our cross daily and surrendering all to Lord Jesus instead of focussing on not to sin a certain sin.

Proverbs 3:5-8

God Bless you,
dutch

 

[Cote Dawg]

hello dear Cote Dawg!

sin is sin we cannot ever talk good about it but i do agree with what you said i should have talked with you more on taking up our cross daily and surrendering all to Lord Jesus instead of focussing on not to sin a certain sin.

Proverbs 3:5-8

God Bless you,
dutch

I have found that when you approach sin, you are more of that sin. The only way to avoid doing more of that same stuff is to be just and true to the lord in faith and prayer. Discipline and wisdom is all the protection I need in this case. Praise him!

 

[Cote Dawg]

Grief is an overwhelming substance. God has given me clarity in comparison to my previous lifestyle. Hypocrisy is a stupid motto. But with a sincere effort, you can conquer this mountain and leave behind all mortal trace. Jesus saves!

 

[sweet_mother]

Cote: It's really not as bad as you think. I know you love her but you can't know what marriage is like without being official. I'm in the Law of Chastity with my true Fiance not someone I'm just sleeping with. I no longer sleep with him because I prayed that God would wash my sins and I was serious about this until marriage. Now we have done it before but since converting I wont ask no if's or but's about what God wants because I feel the Lord and he has set the laws for a certain reason, basically, you won't see me question HIM and neither should you. If you were to die today and were in front of him for judgement would you still admit to him that you want to have sex under his law and try to be forgiven?? It wouldn't work, you had your time. So because you do... take it now and make it right with him. My wedding isn't a year til now so I got a long way to go and yes, it's hard because we live together but not so bad that I won't follow God's word. I'm being honest when I say I rather be with God than listen to my fleshy desire for sex. What I want is not important while I'm on earth. What IS important is beating your trials, making yourself right with God, and following a STRAIGHT path towards HIM in this life. If you want to be truly happy listen to HIM because he is the Alpha and Omega and he does things for a certain reason. I think you're just beating around the bush and trying to make it seem like it's okay when it's not. You didn't make the laws Cote. He did, so if you want to be a loving devoted true Christian, please keep your fleshy desires to yourself and please be faithful to the Almighty because HE knows everything you do and think.


Exodus 23:21Give heed to Him, listen to and obey His voice; be not rebellious before Him or provoke Him, for He will not pardon your transgression; for My Name is in Him.

 

[SBNmediamember]

I'm new to this:

Hi, Folks,
I'm so terribly new here and hope that I didn't miss anything truly important in the progress of this brother's battle with sexual temptations. I think I'm even in the wrong forum!!! HELP!!!! (Ha! I figured out that I sent this message to the wrong place, then copied and pasted it back over to your forum...I think)

I see the writing has stopped (for CHASTITY) somewhere around April 12 and today is the 13th. Am I correct? Can someone get this message over to that particular forum????? (As I said, I think I'm locked in with ya'll now)

May I just add a little of what I've learned about this grand and glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ? Cote? And the rest of you whose numerous responses I couldn't read fast enough to get to this place.

I'd like to say that since I learned the Message of the Cross as outlined by the Apostle Paul, I've had so many more victories in my life over the world, the flesh, and the devil. I've learned that taking up one's Cross daily is actually taking up the Cross of Jesus Christ. Because it's all about HIM and what He accomplished at Calvary...where He nailed ALL our sins to His Cross: past, present, and future. I've learned that the struggle is real, but so is our FAITH in His finished work. If we keep our faith there, in what HE did, then we can rest from our struggles. We take our eyes off our own performance and the battle becomes HIS... and no longer ours. HE is the Overcomer and we go through trials and tribulations as He warned that we would. But He promised to never leave nor forsake us, and this promise is where our eyes need to stay focused. It's all about what HE can accomplish through us, and then we don't live in condemnation and HE gets all the glory. For we do know that "there is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh" (Romans 8:1-3) But "walking after the flesh" does not mean we're walking in sin. Rather, it means that our faith is placed in the wrong object...our own performance! THIS is "walking in the flesh." Rather, our faith must be placed in what CHRIST did, which is what "walking in the Spirit" actually means.

Yes, the struggles will be endless, but when we focus on our struggles, then our struggles will never end (somebody highlight what I just said!). Our focus must ever remain on the overcoming power of the Name of Jesus Christ...which can be a whole new concept in this forum? I'm not sure. Nevertheless, it's not a new concept at all. It's just that the modern church has so terribly veered from what the Apostle Paul taught. I suppose I should stop here. I could go on and on. But the point is, there IS POWER IN THE BLOOD!!!! And there's certainly NO POWER WITHIN OURSELVES TO OVERCOME ANYTHING. It's that MIRACLE WORKING POWER OF THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST that we place our faith in. Because, without faith, it's impossible to please God anyway, no matter how chaste (or right) we are. (Hebrews 11:6...and do read the part where God is the REWARDER of those who DILIGENTLY SEEK Him)

Do comment. And please forgive the length. As I said, I'm a newcomer and don't know the first thing about forums. But I do know from what the Lord has delivered me...as well as from what He has YET to deliver me...as sin is sin and we shall ALL deal with it until we die. But God is faithful and has promised that with every temptation, He has made a way of escape. Cote: If YOU don't quit, GOD won't quit! Just let HIM carry you. Rest in HIS arms...and watch what happens when you cease from your struggles. Footprints in the sand? It's a fact. Don't get discouraged. For one day you'll turn around, and this thing will be behind you. It really will. And what the devil meant for evil, God will have used it for GREAT GOOD!!! (Genesis 50:20)

SBNmediamember
1Corinthians 2:2 (For I determined not to know anything among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him crucified)

 

[Cote Dawg]

Cote: It's really not as bad as you think. I know you love her but you can't know what marriage is like without being official. I'm in the Law of Chastity with my true Fiance not someone I'm just sleeping with. I no longer sleep with him because I prayed that God would wash my sins and I was serious about this until marriage. Now we have done it before but since converting I wont ask no if's or but's about what God wants because I feel the Lord and he has set the laws for a certain reason, basically, you won't see me question HIM and neither should you. If you were to die today and were in front of him for judgement would you still admit to him that you want to have sex under his law and try to be forgiven?? It wouldn't work, you had your time. So because you do... take it now and make it right with him. My wedding isn't a year til now so I got a long way to go and yes, it's hard because we live together but not so bad that I won't follow God's word. I'm being honest when I say I rather be with God than listen to my fleshy desire for sex. What I want is not important while I'm on earth. What IS important is beating your trials, making yourself right with God, and following a STRAIGHT path towards HIM in this life. If you want to be truly happy listen to HIM because he is the Alpha and Omega and he does things for a certain reason. I think you're just beating around the bush and trying to make it seem like it's okay when it's not. You didn't make the laws Cote. He did, so if you want to be a loving devoted true Christian, please keep your fleshy desires to yourself and please be faithful to the Almighty because HE knows everything you do and think.


Exodus 23:21Give heed to Him, listen to and obey His voice; be not rebellious before Him or provoke Him, for He will not pardon your transgression; for My Name is in Him.

I understand your concern. Just to let you all know I am living in chastity now. I am still battling perverted thought patterns old. Many like - well, female bodies. I have a respect for women but I am uncomfortable around them because I have worry. Worry of committing adultery in my heart. And this can be a good thing, considering what I have been going through. My future self can't repent when my future self is reliving past mistakes - sins against God... These are HIS bodies, this is his blood, his flesh - this is his grace. There is no way to bury his grace out of existence - just look at Jesus. He makes me a sinner for us all, if I follow his example, if I take up my cross - embrace that feeling. For a while, it was consensual sex. When I tried to stop, she tempted me still. It was probably my fault for defiling her in the first place. I didn't know much better - maybe when I was younger I did, but after being addicted to porn I fell from that moral code and thought it was okay because the rest of the world did it anyways. Yes she tempted me when I didn't want any - but that's when I realized my problems had grown far more out of my reach than I could control in the heat of the moment... Could I deny sex? YES. Could she? It took me lashing out to get it through her head - which I know is wrong, anger and violence is never necessary for getting anything out of life. This is truly a bigger struggle for me than I thought. I honestly feel like leaving her at times because my heart has a check - it feels as though God wants me to stay away from her because she is misguiding me away from Jesus and my walk with the lord. I'm not an angry person - I must be full of anxiety and desires and fears. I'm only human though - I would expect all of us to get mad from time to time - but when it comes to people I am supposed to love, it tends to come caving in on me.