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Coronavirus - what do you think?

Is Coronavirus a sign of the times

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 52.6%
  • No

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • No it's just hyped up by media

    Votes: 4 21.1%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • Total voters
    19

Fragrant Grace

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What do you think of this outbreak of Coronavirus?

Is it a sign of the times? An end of time plague?

Is it just being hyped up by media?

What are your thoughts?
 
I voted it is a sign of the times and I'll tell you why.

It's a sign of the end times, to those with spiritual discernment, and are watching and waiting know Bible prophecy.
Those that study the word of God, the Holy Bible, know that before the end comes and the Lord returns that the man of sin,
aka the antichrist, aka the son of perdition, aka the false messiah as I call him, must first be revealed before that day (the last day)
comes.

This virus is %100 fake. It is being used by Satan and his innumerable followers (they that have taken the mark) to further
bring about Satan's plans. We know his plans are to reveal the antichrist at some point, and we know it is drawing closer.
Now what is going to happen leading up to that and what the world will be like when that event unfolds, we don't know for sure
but we can speculate.

If my discernment is correct and the virus is fake, then it looks to me that it is being used to subdue the world further, to bring down the
U.S. economy, to prepare the masses for further control such as one might expect if a totalitarian dictator ruled the world, to prepare
the masses for a global government which will crown the antichrist as king. Some believe that the U.S. was created with the secret destiny
to be destroyed as a launching pad for world government. It looks like this is turning out to be true, more and more everyday.
 
being that it has effected the whole globe is very telling to me. This is the first of a kind for global events. We will see more, and much worst IMO.

lets look at the good it has done

1. Child trafficking is being slowed if not shut down

2. Idols such as Hollywood entertainment is being shut down

3. Idols such as sports team being shut down

4. Bars shut down

5. Families spending more time together

6. Chasing the almighty Dollar Idol being shut down

Dave Wilkerson had a prophecy about this exact event
 
One has to know that strange things are happening that has the flavor of OT “biblical motifs”. Israel sins that occurred in the OT now the church practice sins the same as OT God’s chosen people. OT God’s people only wanted to listen to feel good prophets and condemn those who brought up their sins of all types, telling them to “Repent” of their wicked ways. God sent out different kinds of punishment warnings, his people still would not repent of their ways, but continue further in their evil and idolatrous ways. So much idolatry by Christians they have become intoxicated and blinded by The taste of it’s delicacies and they refuse to let go of its garments. And if anyone tries to shine light upon any one of their evils ways they become “enemies of the state of their Christianity”! So it was in Israel so is it now in Christianity! The Great falling away is here and the judgment of Jesus Christ is at the door! Behold take a look at the fig tree! Fires, storms, locust, tornado’s , tsunamis, idolatries, women ruling men, Adultery runs rampant like a wild dog in the church of the living GOD by escape clauses. Justification for all types of rebellion against the unadulterated Word of the living God. The Very Word of God has become hate speech when it proclaims a way of holiness and sanctification. “The Way” of denying ones self has been fully eliminated

The Great falling is before the eyes of those who can see the truth and it is affecting all of us. Shalom my brothers and sisters IN Christ, has lost its meaning as well. Because even christians are callIng unsaved people Their brothers and sisters in Christ.

And preachers has become wells without water and compelling people to come drink of The residue from which they have trampled under their feet.

“MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN “ motifs, is so foreign To the lips of the Christian church that it lays down in the rubbles of the streets and the back alley’s of our selfishness and we have refuse to inject the antidote, and our bodies has become immune by results of a “Reprobate “ mind. The only One who can deliver us from this great body of This decay and death is The coming of Our Lord and Savior “Jesus Christ”!
What will it take for our hearts to yearn for the quickness of His Coming as one body in Christ? Darkness, suffering pain, being abused, diseases with no cure, starvation upon every corner of the world, and the safe Haven of our homes and families has become a foreign and strange country and the peace of God we cannot find. The things that we called our comforts have no value and unreachable anymore, for the Idol gods we worship has slip beyond our reach.

Many, many, are reaching out thinking the work of their hands is going to deliver them From this type of “Grace” And “Mercy” God is expressing to this world and the body of Christ. In a strange way. We the body of Christ must give thanks into all things.

P.S. I think it is worse than the media is proclaiming. But things will come to the light.
 
I voted it is a sign of the times and I'll tell you why.

It's a sign of the end times, to those with spiritual discernment, and are watching and waiting know Bible prophecy.
Those that study the word of God, the Holy Bible, know that before the end comes and the Lord returns that the man of sin,
aka the antichrist, aka the son of perdition, aka the false messiah as I call him, must first be revealed before that day (the last day)
comes.

This virus is %100 fake. It is being used by Satan and his innumerable followers (they that have taken the mark) to further
bring about Satan's plans. We know his plans are to reveal the antichrist at some point, and we know it is drawing closer.
Now what is going to happen leading up to that and what the world will be like when that event unfolds, we don't know for sure
but we can speculate.

If my discernment is correct and the virus is fake, then it looks to me that it is being used to subdue the world further, to bring down the
U.S. economy, to prepare the masses for further control such as one might expect if a totalitarian dictator ruled the world, to prepare
the masses for a global government which will crown the antichrist as king. Some believe that the U.S. was created with the secret destiny
to be destroyed as a launching pad for world government. It looks like this is turning out to be true, more and more everyday.
What do you mean when you say the virus is 100% fake? Do you believe that it doesn't exist?
 
I believe The Corona Virus, Covid-19, is definitely a sign of the latter days of the end times. It is a pestilence, the Bible tells us in the latter days 'there will be an increase in earthquakes and pestilences.

In not many years we have seen an increase in pestilences and their severity. HIV, Mers, SARS, Ebola, Super bugs and Corona Virus.

Jesus tells us when we see these things, including wars and rumours of wars, it will be like birth pangs, he says this is not the end, but as we know birth pangs come at the end of the pregnancy.

It is a Take Note statement by Jesus, time is getting short.

Luke 21:11
And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven.

Matthew 24:4-8
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.
5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.


Mark 13:5-8
5 Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you.
6 Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many.
7 When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
8 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.


Verse 8 is one of the most important verses for the period we are looking at, end times as we know are the last 2000 tears, latter days are towards the end of the period.

Jesus uses a wonderful description here, he tells us that many things that will happen in the latter days, compared them to the latter days of a pregnancy, and says we are not quite there yet, but the birth pains have started and as we all know the birth pains don't come at the start or in the middle, they come at the end.
 
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@Hekuran Yes exactly. That is how you can see how many innumerable people follow Satan (secretly) by how they are able to pull off such wide scale deceptions in these end times.
 
My family has been sick with the disease. Several of my friends and colleagues have lost parents to it. What evidence do you have that this is a deception? I do mean evidence, I don't mean a theory or a speculation.
 
My family has been sick with the disease. Several of my friends and colleagues have lost parents to it. What evidence do you have that this is a deception? I do mean evidence, I don't mean a theory or a speculation.


Thoughts and prayers are with you brother, your family and your friends. Yesterday we had it confirmed a friend has covid-19, Harry and his wife are not 'yet' Christian's.
 
Appreciate your prayers. Just for clarity, my children are fine. They've been sick, but have shaken it off without too much problem. Other friends have been seriously ill.

Praying that you friends turn to Jesus in their hour of need.
 
We come together in agreement for each others families and friends, we free for their protection from the enemy of souls and for their salvation in Jesus Precious Name. Amen
 
What do you think of this outbreak of Coronavirus?

Is it a sign of the times? An end of time plague?

Is it just being hyped up by media?

What are your thoughts?
Bless you Fragrant Grace,
With the signs that Jesus spoke of concerning the last days now becoming more apparent by the day, and this pandemic Coronavirus appearing at this very same time. It looks pretty self evident, to me, that it is an end time plague, others may, of course, disagree.
 
Bless you Fragrant Grace,
With the signs that Jesus spoke of concerning the last days now becoming more apparent by the day, and this pandemic Coronavirus appearing at this very same time. It looks pretty self evident, to me, that it is an end time plague, others may, of course, disagree.


Totally agree brother
 
Yes, and I think we can expect a lot more before our Lord's return. Bless you Paul.


The world has needed shaking for it's ungodliness for some time.

I am sure we will be seeing more deaths, and suicides, we need to be ready to help, to guide and to pray.

Bless you brother
 
The world has needed shaking for it's ungodliness for some time.

I am sure we will be seeing more deaths, and suicides, we need to be ready to help, to guide and to pray.

Bless you brother
Hi Paul, I posted some time ago regarding Malachi 3:6-12, Where the Lord challenges us to test him by giving him the full Tithe (ten %)? so that there may be food in his house. We do that, and now find ourselves in the middle of a lockdown because of the coronavirus, since this lockdown started, our food has been delivered free of charge by our children and grand children and every Sunday, bar one, we have been blessed with our Sunday lunch. Now people could say," yes but they are family, and they would wouldn't they. My answer would be, who moved them to decide not to take the money? A few years ago I was busking in a coastal town in the UK called Weymouth, My camper van broke down. I used all I had earned from busking to pay a garage to fix it. That night we spent the night parked up on Portland Bill where there is a lighthouse up on the heights. The following morning I turned the key to leave and a frightening noise, loud enough to turn heads came from my engine. our money had gone on the previous days repair and I was down to five pounds. We prayed for advice as to what to do. And I felt the Lord tell me to find a garage. On our way down from Portland Bill we passed a garage and my daughter pointed it out to me. It was obviously down market and somewhat seedy. The Lord told me that I was to give it a miss. We continued on and finally came to a garage, with shingle and palm trees in the forecourt, and Rolls Royce's in a showroom and the Lord said "in here". I was sceptical, to say the least, but He had spoken. I approached a smartly dressed young woman and explained our dilemma, she directed me to the rear where there was a garage for servicing Rolls Royce's I explained our dilemma to the manager and he set an apprentice to sort out our problem. we were instructed to drive onto one of those hoists that lift the whole vehicle, we were still in the camper, and up it went. I wasn't sure whether or not the manager had realised that we had only five pounds and so Helen, myself and the children started to pray. The Spirit was so powerful that we were all moved to tears, but still I doubted. eventually after taking the engine apart, (the previous garage had dropped a piece of metal into the sump), the job was done and the van came down. Still full of doubt, I asked the manager "where do we go from here" and he said "give the lad a drink". I asked the lad if five pounds would be ok and he was over the moon. I thanked the manager and offered him a set of cassettes of my music and he was delighted, so we ended up leaving the garage as though we had done them a favour. The Lord is wonderful. there have been many times the Lord has been there for us. There was a time in Marseilles, We were headed for Morocco to meet friends I'd tried busking the Metro in Paris but the gendarmes wouldn't allow it. We had left England with very little money because I reasoned we would earn in Paris. As this wasn't happening, I decided we would start hitchhiking and I would earn by playing roadside cafes to earn on the way. Actually I lost my courage and sold my guitar for the fare to Marseilles, where I intended we would go to the British embassy and be repatriated. The Embassy refused and we were stuck in Marseilles with about 10 franks. As we left the Embassy a little two CV car pulled up beside us and the guy asked us if we were in trouble. How he came to that conclusion has ever been a mystery to me, Unless it was orchestrated by the Lord. Anyway the guy took us to his room where he stayed with his girlfriend, it was a bed sit with few amenities. The next morning our new friend informed us, that he and his girlfriend were going to Switzerland skiing and we, when we were ready to leave, were to leave the key behind the shutter, that is faith, he didn't know us from Adam. We were hungry, we hadn't eaten for days, but we decided, before leaving Marseilles to have a look at the place. When we opened to door to leave, we found that the door led out to an area behind a bakers shop and all the stale bread from the previous day was left out in a basket for collection. as I said we were hungry and the bread was a gift from God, as was the accommodation. We eventually, after one or two more adventures arrived in Calais where the purser on the ferry allowed us to return on credit. I no-longer worry Paul, because the Lord has never failed to be there for us. I, believe that to tithe and test the Lord as he called us too, is wisdom. No doubt many will disagree, but they will never convince me. Those two experiences are two of many. Bless you Paul.
 
If a global pandemic is a sign about the end times, then Jesus could've returned during the

Antonine Plague: A.D. 165-180
Which may have been smallpox.

Plague of Cyprian: A.D. 250-271
a bishop of Carthage (a city in Tunisia) who described the epidemic as signaling the end of the world, the Plague of Cyprian is estimated to have killed 5,000 people a day in Rome alone.
https://www.livescience.com/worst-epidemics-and-pandemics-in-history.html
Plague of Justinian: A.D. 541-542
Some estimates suggest that up to 10% of the world's population died.
https://www.livescience.com/worst-epidemics-and-pandemics-in-history.html
6. The Black Death: 1346-1353
Some estimates suggest that it wiped out over half of Europe's population.

Cocoliztli epidemic: 1545-1548
The infection that caused the cocoliztli epidemic was a form of viral hemorrhagic fever that killed 15 million inhabitants of Mexico and Central America.

American Plagues: 16th century
The American Plagues are a cluster of Eurasian diseases brought to the Americas by European explorers. These illnesses, including smallpox, contributed to the collapse of the Inca and Aztec civilizations. Some estimates suggest that 90% of the indigenous population in the Western Hemisphere was killed off.
https://www.livescience.com/worst-epidemics-and-pandemics-in-history.html
Great Plague of London: 1665-1666
By the time the plague ended, about 100,000 people, including 15% of the population of London, had died

Great Plague of Marseille: 1720-1723
Plague spread quickly, and over the next three years, as many as 100,000 people may have died in Marseille and surrounding areas. It's estimated that up to 30% of the population of Marseille may have perished

Russian plague: 1770-1772
In plague-ravaged Moscow, the terror of quarantined citizens erupted into violence. Riots spread through the city and culminated in the murder of Archbishop Ambrosius, who was encouraging crowds not to gather for worship (sound familiar?)
By the time the plague ended, as many as 100,000 people may have died. Even after the plague ended, Catherine struggled to restore order. In 1773, Yemelyan Pugachev, a man who claimed to be Peter III (Catherine's executed husband), led an insurrection that resulted in the deaths of thousands more.
https://www.livescience.com/worst-epidemics-and-pandemics-in-history.html
Philadelphia yellow fever epidemic: 1793
Mosquitos.
By the end, more than 5,000 people had died.

Flu pandemic: 1889-1890
In the modern industrial age, new transport links made it easier for influenza viruses to wreak havoc. In just a few months, the disease spanned the globe, killing 1 million people. It took just five weeks for the epidemic to reach peak mortality.

The earliest cases were reported in Russia. The virus spread rapidly throughout St. Petersburg before it quickly made its way throughout Europe and the rest of the world, despite the fact that air travel didn't exist yet.

American polio epidemic: 1916
A polio epidemic that started in New York City caused 27,000 cases and 6,000 deaths in the United States. The disease mainly affects children and sometimes leaves survivors with permanent disabilities.
Polio epidemics occurred sporadically in the United States until the Salk vaccine was developed in 1954.

Spanish Flu: 1918-1920
An estimated 500 million people from the South Seas to the North Pole fell victim to Spanish Flu.

Asian Flu: 1957-1958
The Asian Flu pandemic was another global showing for influenza. With its roots in China, the disease claimed more than 1 million lives. The virus that caused the pandemic was a blend of avian flu viruses.

AIDS pandemic and epidemic: 1981-present day (because we have no cure yet)
AIDS has claimed an estimated 35 million lives {gay and straight} since it was first identified.

H1N1 Swine Flu pandemic: 2009-2010
The 2009 swine flu pandemic was caused by a new strain of H1N1 that originated in Mexico in the spring of 2009 before spreading to the rest of the world. In one year, the virus infected as many as 1.4 billion people across the globe and killed between 151,700 and 575,400 people, according to the CDC.

West African Ebola epidemic: 2014-2016
Ebola ravaged West Africa between 2014 and 2016, with 28,600 reported cases and 11,325 deaths. There is no known cure.
Source

He didn't return then, so I don't believe that just because the world is going through a pandemic or a crisis, it necessarily means that Jesus is going to return.
It does mean that people have a tendency to believe that the world is ending when things get rough. Don't worry guys, we've been through this before, and we'll get through it again.

Ecclesiastes 1:9
What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
 
Hi Paul, I posted some time ago regarding Malachi 3:6-12, Where the Lord challenges us to test him by giving him the full Tithe (ten %)? so that there may be food in his house. We do that, and now find ourselves in the middle of a lockdown because of the coronavirus, since this lockdown started, our food has been delivered free of charge by our children and grand children and every Sunday, bar one, we have been blessed with our Sunday lunch. Now people could say," yes but they are family, and they would wouldn't they. My answer would be, who moved them to decide not to take the money? A few years ago I was busking in a coastal town in the UK called Weymouth, My camper van broke down. I used all I had earned from busking to pay a garage to fix it. That night we spent the night parked up on Portland Bill where there is a lighthouse up on the heights. The following morning I turned the key to leave and a frightening noise, loud enough to turn heads came from my engine. our money had gone on the previous days repair and I was down to five pounds. We prayed for advice as to what to do. And I felt the Lord tell me to find a garage. On our way down from Portland Bill we passed a garage and my daughter pointed it out to me. It was obviously down market and somewhat seedy. The Lord told me that I was to give it a miss. We continued on and finally came to a garage, with shingle and palm trees in the forecourt, and Rolls Royce's in a showroom and the Lord said "in here". I was sceptical, to say the least, but He had spoken. I approached a smartly dressed young woman and explained our dilemma, she directed me to the rear where there was a garage for servicing Rolls Royce's I explained our dilemma to the manager and he set an apprentice to sort out our problem. we were instructed to drive onto one of those hoists that lift the whole vehicle, we were still in the camper, and up it went. I wasn't sure whether or not the manager had realised that we had only five pounds and so Helen, myself and the children started to pray. The Spirit was so powerful that we were all moved to tears, but still I doubted. eventually after taking the engine apart, (the previous garage had dropped a piece of metal into the sump), the job was done and the van came down. Still full of doubt, I asked the manager "where do we go from here" and he said "give the lad a drink". I asked the lad if five pounds would be ok and he was over the moon. I thanked the manager and offered him a set of cassettes of my music and he was delighted, so we ended up leaving the garage as though we had done them a favour. The Lord is wonderful. there have been many times the Lord has been there for us. There was a time in Marseilles, We were headed for Morocco to meet friends I'd tried busking the Metro in Paris but the gendarmes wouldn't allow it. We had left England with very little money because I reasoned we would earn in Paris. As this wasn't happening, I decided we would start hitchhiking and I would earn by playing roadside cafes to earn on the way. Actually I lost my courage and sold my guitar for the fare to Marseilles, where I intended we would go to the British embassy and be repatriated. The Embassy refused and we were stuck in Marseilles with about 10 franks. As we left the Embassy a little two CV car pulled up beside us and the guy asked us if we were in trouble. How he came to that conclusion has ever been a mystery to me, Unless it was orchestrated by the Lord. Anyway the guy took us to his room where he stayed with his girlfriend, it was a bed sit with few amenities. The next morning our new friend informed us, that he and his girlfriend were going to Switzerland skiing and we, when we were ready to leave, were to leave the key behind the shutter, that is faith, he didn't know us from Adam. We were hungry, we hadn't eaten for days, but we decided, before leaving Marseilles to have a look at the place. When we opened to door to leave, we found that the door led out to an area behind a bakers shop and all the stale bread from the previous day was left out in a basket for collection. as I said we were hungry and the bread was a gift from God, as was the accommodation. We eventually, after one or two more adventures arrived in Calais where the purser on the ferry allowed us to return on credit. I no-longer worry Paul, because the Lord has never failed to be there for us. I, believe that to tithe and test the Lord as he called us too, is wisdom. No doubt many will disagree, but they will never convince me. Those two experiences are two of many. Bless you Paul.


Bless you brother

I saw Cumbria and thought blimey not far, then I realised you are slightly east of Carlisle, I lived near Morecambe Bay brother, just outside the southern part of Cumbria, we have moved since that, 300 miles south, so yes again I can relate to Weymouth and Portland Bill. Small world Trevor.

We Trust in the Lord, He is our Lord, our God, our Saviour, our provider, our all.

Bless you my friend.
 
Bless you brother

I saw Cumbria and thought blimey not far, then I realised you are slightly east of Carlisle, I lived near Morecambe Bay brother, just outside the southern part of Cumbria, we have moved since that, 300 miles south, so yes again I can relate to Weymouth and Portland Bill. Small world Trevor.

We Trust in the Lord, He is our Lord, our God, our Saviour, our provider, our all.

Bless you my friend.
It is indeed a small world, my sister lives in Littlehampton and when this lock down is over I'll be going down to see her, maybe we could meet up sometime? bless you bro.
 
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