Did Satan bring One or Two gangs of fallen angels from heaven?

[Brad Huber]

Because the book of Enoch was never in any valid published copy of the KJV.


And the Jews who have the Kabbalah as canon? Should we now be reading the Kabbalah?

Kabbalah - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As I said, those are the Tewahedo. How are they not a cult?


SOURCE please.


SOURCE please (for the claim that church fathers rejected it). Which letter or document of any church father states this?


Eleven Aramaic-language fragments of the Book of Enoch were found in cave 4 of Qumran in 1948.
LINK

The operative word being fragments.

Kindly,
Rhema

Source of why you call them cults? I have done alot of studies about the book of enoch in the past. I have accumulated quite alot of information about it. Information you cant even find anymore, ppl like to hide things from the public about issues they prefer to keep under wraps. I have been fortunate enough to find news stories in 2 different occasions from reputable sources. One was concerning the use of electro-magnetic experiments, the other was concerning the discoveries made in the caves of Qumran. A complete book of enoch was found in one of the caves, in addition to the 11 fragments you spoke of. A news article was posted about it being sold to a private collector, then when checking on it a few months later, all mention of it was gone. Nothing was said about who the private collector was, but I assume it was some religious person of wealth that didnt want the information about it to get out. As to whether it was destroyed or not, would be pure speculation. I have the complete book of enoch in my library with notes about it, I pulled the information from my notes on it. I hand typed out the book of enoch that was translated from the Ge'ez language which is the original language that was copied over into Aramaic. There is another version out there (or perhaps more than 1 other version) that is not as accurate. The translated version I have is the only translation that is approved by the ethiopian church (the Ge'ez language's usage is predominantly there).

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Well then please explain why both Peter and Jude reference the punishment the Angels received in the Book of Enoch in their letters if its not true.Peter and Jude are well aware of the Book of Enoch.It does not add to the faith so it does not need to be there.Obviously it was felt no one needed to know about it by the church fathers.

It's not only this direct quotation of 1 Enoch by Jude, but Jude (and 2 Peter) allude to the fantastical events of 1 Enoch, namely the sexual encounters of fallen angels with human women, which gives birth to the nephilim or “giants.” The birth of the giants, according to 1 Enoch, is the reason for the Noah's Flood.

Actually, Peter, it is necessary that you know about it...Its the cause of the ongoing seed wars between Jesus and satan.

Genesis 3:15 15;And I will put enmity between and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Also, you need to know that the giants were not all wiped out in the flood. That's why God had His people finish the job. And even then it was not completed....There are still giants alive today. I'm not talking about humans with the disease of gigantism, I'm talking about real nephilim giants. And all of this can and will affect your life today.​

 

[Rhema]

Source of why you call them cults?

Well if the Tewahedo are not a cult, then neither are the JW's and the Mormons, etc.

Emperor Tewodros II ... set out to reunite the divided Kingdom and to restore Ethiopia to her ancient glory. A fundamental aim of his policy was to put an end to religious controversy in the Empire and to consolidate the Orthodox Faith. To this end, in 1855, he imposed the Tewahido doctrine, propagated by Abuna Salama, as the sole doctrine to be allowed in Ethiopia.​

The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church

One person declaring what is allowed to be believed is kinda the definition of a cult.

I have done alot of studies about the book of enoch in the past. I have accumulated quite alot of information about it. Information you cant even find anymore,

I am sure you have, and well done.

I have been fortunate enough to find news stories in 2 different occasions from reputable sources. One was concerning the use of electro-magnetic experiments

Before or after Einstein?

Having worked at RCA Missile and Surface Radar, I have more than a passing knowledge of electromagnetism. (Fun stuff.)

A complete book of enoch was found in one of the caves,

I've heard of this:

Hershel Shanks: There’s this strange story that’s been in the papers, that at one point two prostitutes, one Jewish and one Arab, came to you (John Strugnell) at the École Biblique [the French School in Jerusalem] and, I believe, took you to a field outside of Bethlehem where they removed from their private parts microfilms of Dead Sea Scrolls, one of them being the complete book of Enoch. Is that true?​

Dead Sea Scrolls | An Interview with John Strugnell | The Dead Sea Scrolls and Why They Matter

Dead Sea Scrolls | A collection of articles from Biblical Archaeology Review covers some of the major topics in Scrolls studies.

web.archive.org

(Ya just can't make this stuff up...)

Kindly,
Rhema

 

[backNforth]

From the OP:

Did Satan bring One or Two gangs of fallen angels...?

One gang, each gangster possessing the selfsame spirit.

There are 5 Giants in the bible.

There are dozens of tribes of giants found in the Holy Bible:

Amalekites, Amorites, Anakim, Ashdodites, Ashkelonites (Eshkalonites), Avvim, Avites, Canaanites, Caphtorim, Ekronites, Emim (Emins),
Gazites (Gazathites), Geshurites , Gibalites (Giblites), Gibeonites, Girgashites, Gittites, Hittites, Hivites, Horites (Horims), Jebusites, Kadmonites, Kenites, Kenizzites, Maacathites, Manassites, Nephilim, Perizzites, Philistines, Rephaim, Sidonians, Zamzummim, and the Zuzim.

• Amalekites are mentioned 25 times
• Amorites are mentioned 87 times
• Anakim are mentioned 9 times
• Ashdodites are mentioned 4 times
• Ashkelonites (Eshkalonites) are mentioned 1 time
• Avvim are mentioned 3 times
• Canaanites are mentioned 21 times but not all Canaanites peoples were giants.
• Caphtorim are mentioned 2 times
• Ekronites are mentioned 2 times
• Emim (aka Emins) are mentioned 3 times
• Gazites (Gazathites) are mentioned 2 times
• Geshurites are mentioned 6 times
• Gibeonites are mentioned 8 times
• Gibalites (Giblites) are mentioned 2 times
• Girgashites are mentioned 7 times
• Gittites are mentioned 10 times
• Hittites are mentioned 48 times
• Hivites are mentioned 25 times
• Horites (Horims) are mentioned 7 times
• Jebusites are mentioned 41 times
• Kadmonites are mentioned 1 time
• Kenites are mentioned 11 times
• Kenizzites are mentioned 4 times
• Maacathites are mentioned 8 times
• Manassites are mentioned 4 times
• Nephilim are mentioned 2 times
• Perizzites are mentioned 23 times
• Philistines are mentioned 290 times but many Philistines were not giants.
• Rephaim are mentioned 18 times
• Sidonians are mentioned 16 times
• Zamzummim are mentioned 1 time
• Zuzim are mentioned 1 time

That is a total of 688 mentions of tribes, people groups, or nations of (or containing) giants.

There are 19 giants that are named specifically in the Holy Bible:

• Adoni-zedek (aka Adonizedek, Adonizedec), King of Jerusalem, is mentioned 2 times
• Agag, King of the Amalakites, is mentioned 8 times
• Ahiman (anakim) is mentioned 4 times
• Amalek is mentioned 24 times
• Arba is mentioned 3 times
• Gog is mentioned 11 times
• Magog is mentioned 5 times
• Goliath is mentioned 6 times
• Hoham, King of Hebron, is mentioned 1 time
• Horam, King of Gezer, is mentioned 1 time
• Jabin, King of Hazor, is mentioned 7 times
• Jobab, King of Madon, is mentioned 9 times
• Lahmi is mentioned 1 time
• Nimrod is mentioned 4 times
• Og of Bashan is mentioned 22 times
• Sheshai (anakim) is mentioned 3 times
• Sihon, King of the Amorites, is mentioned 39 times
• Sippai is mentioned 1 time
• Talmai (anakim) is mentioned 6 times

That is a total of 157 mentions of specific giants.

688 + 157 = 845 total references to individual giants, tribes, and people groups that included or were associated with giants in the Holy Bible.

 

[backNforth]

One [news story] was concerning the use of electro-magnetic experiments, the other was concerning the discoveries made in the caves of Qumran. A complete book of enoch was found in one of the caves, in addition to the 11 fragments you spoke of.

"The Rockefeller Foundation - infamous for its involvement in one-world political organizations, such as the Council on Foreign
Relations and the Trilateral Commission - is funding the research on the Dead Sea Scrolls. Also, the U.S. government’s top-secret research lab at Los Alamos, New Mexico, is digitizing these Dead Sea Scrolls so that they can be more clearly read. Anyone might ask, “Why would these parties be interested in this material?” This is happening because the Dead Sea Scrolls prescribe all of the elements needed to coerce people to adapt to the one-world political and religious system advocated by these parties. The Dead Sea Scrolls advocate:

1. The confiscation of personal property to the group.
2. The coming of two Messiahs: one a religious prophet, the other a civil leader.

Students of Bible prophecy know that this corresponds exactly to the beast and the false prophet of Revelation. The Dead Sea Scrolls say that the Essenes are “sons of the light,” ruled by the “angel of light.” Bible students know that the “angel of light” is Satan."

Even Google is in on this.

https://cool.culturalheritage.org/coolaic/sg/bpg/annual/v37/bpga37-12.pdf

West Meets East - The Story of Rockefeller Museum