Do you think, Jesus will recognize the "Sabbath Day" [The 7th Day] when He Reigns in "The Millennium"?

[PloughBoy]

Remember "The Sabbath Day" and keep it Holy".

 

[PloughBoy]

(Exodus 20: 1-17).

King James Bible

Par ▾

The Ten Commandments
(Deuteronomy 5:6-21)

1And God spake all these words, saying,
2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thingthat is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13Thou shalt not kill.
14Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15Thou shalt not steal.
16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

 

[PloughBoy]

When did the "Sabbath Day" of the week stop being "Holy"? For the word "sabbath" means "7th", not 1, not 3, not the number 5 or 4th but the number 7th.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

When did the "Sabbath Day" of the week stop being "Holy"? For the word "sabbath" means "7th", not 1, not 3, not the number 5 or 4th but the number 7th.

Obviously after the establishment of the NEW COVENANT in Jesus Blood, not that HE is the one we REST in. Paul in Rom 14 indicates that the "day" is no longer of any importance.

 

[rstrats]

Bob Carabbio,
re: " Paul in Rom 14 indicates that the 'day' is no longer of any importance.

The context of all of Romans 14 from beginning to end is about food and ideas with regard to eating or not eating. Nothing is mentioned about the Sabbath.

A footnote in Calvin's Commentaries regarding verses 5-6: " It has been suggested as a question by some, whether the Christian Sabbath is included here? The very subject in hand proves that it is not."

Homilies of Chrysostom regarding verse 5: "Here he seems to me to be giving a gentle hint about fasting."

Expositor's Greek Testament with regard to verse 5:"It is not probable that there is any reference...to the Jewish Sabbath..."

 

[B-A-C]

When God created everything He rested on the 7th day. (Saturday).

It seems when Adam and Eve were in charge of the garden, the 10 commandments didn't exist yet. At least there is no mention of them in the Bible at that time. (Rom 5:13-14; )
Perhaps when God came to visit them, He said why don't you take a break... it's Saturday after all. But we don't know.

The title of this thread is "do you think.." I think that is the problem with much theology today. We speculate, we think, instead of just going with what the Bible says.
Will Jesus recognize the Sabbath during the Millennial reign? I don't know, He didn't always observe it when He was here before.

Some say the millennial reign is only Spiritual and is happening right now. (That's not my opinion)
Why would we "think" or speculate about something the Bible doesn't specifically tell us will happen?

 

[Sue D.]

When God created everything He rested on the 7th day. (Saturday).

It seems when Adam and Eve were in charge of the garden, the 10 commandments didn't exist yet. At least there is no mention of them in the Bible at that time. (Rom 5:13-14; )
Perhaps when God came to visit them, He said why don't you take a break... it's Saturday after all. But we don't know.

The title of this thread is "do you think.." I think that is the problem with much theology today. We speculate, we think, instead of just going with what the Bible says.
Will Jesus recognize the Sabbath during the Millennial reign? I don't know, He didn't always observe it when He was here before.

Some say the millennial reign is only Spiritual and is happening right now. (That's not my opinion)
Why would we "think" or speculate about something the Bible doesn't specifically tell us will happen?

Very good post -- looking in book of Revelation -- the 1,000 yr reign of Jesus Christ will be here on earth. It will be very real.

You're right -- people Do like to speculate. Why not simply accept God's Word as God's Word. He should be our authority figure.

 

[Butch5]

Remember "The Sabbath Day" and keep it Holy".

The Bible equates a day with a thousand years. God created all things in six days and He rested on the seventh. The early Christians wrote that man would be under the curse for 6 days or six thousand years. The seventh thousand years was considered the seventh day. The millennial reign is Revelation is considered to be the seventh day. Paul speaks of the seventh day also.

8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)1
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

KJV Hebrews 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.1
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:1
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.1
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.1 (Heb. 3:8-4:9 KJV)

Paul said there remains a rest or a sabbath for the people of God.

 

[PloughBoy]

Did God tell us to work on "Sunday" Have the Bible said , it is a sin to work on Sunday. Did not God say; that we are to work the 1st 6 days of the week?

4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die! And to Adam: " he [GOD]said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?"

And I will say: Who told you to change the "7 Day of The week to The 6th Day of The week and The 1st Day of The week into the 7th day of the week?

Sounds like somebody been "moonlighting" in the garden to me. Using smooth words.

Jesus said: "I am the Resurrection"! and He did say : "Remember "The Sabbath Day" and keep it Holy" For He is ["The Master of The Sabbath"], "Lord of The Sabbath" , The Creator of The Sabbath"! For He does, whatever pleases Him on "The Sabbath" !

(Mark 2).
27Jesus said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28“So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Jesus is The creator of The Sabbath. For God the Father created all things through HIm.

( Colossians 1).
15And He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation. 16For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created by Him and for Him. 17And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the first-born from the dead; so that He Himself might come to have first place in everything. 19For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fulness to dwell in Him, 20and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.

(John 1)BSB
2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men.

"IF my brothers and sisters in Christ cannot get this, they cannot arrive to part 2 "let alone the Prologue" of The Protagonist!


Let it also be Noted: One day with GOD could be as a "Million" years and a "Million years" can be as one day with God" for he does not live in "time He is The Creator of Time"! He is "Eternity" so in essence "time" obey's HIM and The SON" And The very Day, The hour, The minute, The second you was "Born from ABove" Born of God" you enter into "Eternity" you will never DIE"! "Believe thou This"?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

The context of all of Romans 14 from beginning to end is about food and ideas with regard to eating or not eating. Nothing is mentioned about the Sabbath.

NOW - read it again with your eyes open -

And while you're at it, what instructions regarding the law did Peter give the gentile church??

 

[PloughBoy]

I see a lot of "Tap dancing" around the question. either a yes or a no! How hard can that be? Well I take it , no one has said "NO"! So i quess everyone believes Jesus will honor the Sabbath day and keep it Holy in the "Millennium "!

Do you think, Jesus will recognize the "Sabbath Day" [The 7th Day] when He Reigns in "The Millennium"?


Don't feel bad because Jesus will honor the Sabbath of The LORD.
Shalom

 

[PloughBoy]

Choose you This Day, The True Child of GOD, has a choice.

 

[PloughBoy]

(Exodus 31)NASB.
16‘So the sons of Israel shall observe the sabbath, to celebrate the sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.’ 17“It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed.”

 

[Rockerduck]

Colossians 2:16-17 - Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ

 

[PloughBoy]

Colossians 2:16-17 - Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ

No one still have not answer the question about Jesus> Everyone is Tap dancing and avoiding the Question.

"Do you "think", " JESUS" will recognize the "Sabbath Day" [The 7th Day] when He Reigns in "The Millennium"?

 

[rstrats]

PloughBoy,

It may be that Rockerduck is referencing the Colossians' passage as support for his thinking that the Messiah wouldn't recognize the Sabbath in the Millennium. Of course the passage does no such thing.

 

[PloughBoy]

1 st. let this be known I am not promoting "The 7th Day Adventist" Church. I stumble up on this movie. and I was not even in the 7th Advent area. I look at a review, then I saw it was over 2 1/2 hours long, I said no way, But then I said to my self, where are you going, The movie 1st got boring, and then WOW! i was getting filled with The Holy Spirit, big time. It was very good. I live in Michigan, I know Battle Creek,Mi. Check it out, It will bless you!

 

[Snowrose]

As I was reading the posts, a thought came across my mind about Jesus healing on the Sabbath. The Pharisees were furious with Jesus for doing that and plotted among themselves to harm Him.

In John 7:22-24 (TPT), it reads.....

Yet isn’t it true that Moses and your forefathers [1] ordered you to circumcise your sons even if the eighth day fell on a Sabbath?[2] So if you cut away part of a man on the Sabbath and that doesn’t break the Jewish law,[3] why then would you be indignant with me for making a man completely healed on the Sabbath? Stop judging based on the superficial.[4] First you must embrace the standards of mercy[5] and truth.”

Footnotes:

1. John 7:22 This is the patriarchs. Circumcision actually began with a sign of the covenant God instituted with Abraham. See Gen. 17.
2. John 7:22 A son was to be circumcised eight days after he was born. See Phil. 3:5.
3. John 7:23 Or “Torah.” Jesus is saying, “Who are you to judge me when you don’t practice what you preach?”
4. John 7:24 Or “Never judge as a hypocrite wearing a mask.”
5. John 7:24 Jesus is teaching that the law of mercy (healing the lame man) overrides the laws of Moses (regulations of the Sabbath). Seeing situations and people with the lens of mercy gives us true discernment.

I know this is not the answer you are seeking from me. For now I can't say yes or no... I like to be careful to whom I agree with. Even the Pharisees were blind to what Jesus was doing and they saw Him and heard Him speak. Still they accused Him of going against the Sabbath.

Just sharing one of my thoughts,
Blessings,
Snowrose

 

[PloughBoy]

As I was reading the posts, a thought came across my mind about Jesus healing on the Sabbath. The Pharisees were furious with Jesus for doing that and plotted among themselves to harm Him.

In John 7:22-24 (TPT), it reads.....

Yet isn’t it true that Moses and your forefathers [1] ordered you to circumcise your sons even if the eighth day fell on a Sabbath?[2] So if you cut away part of a man on the Sabbath and that doesn’t break the Jewish law,[3] why then would you be indignant with me for making a man completely healed on the Sabbath? Stop judging based on the superficial.[4] First you must embrace the standards of mercy[5] and truth.”

Footnotes:

1. John 7:22 This is the patriarchs. Circumcision actually began with a sign of the covenant God instituted with Abraham. See Gen. 17.
2. John 7:22 A son was to be circumcised eight days after he was born. See Phil. 3:5.
3. John 7:23 Or “Torah.” Jesus is saying, “Who are you to judge me when you don’t practice what you preach?”
4. John 7:24 Or “Never judge as a hypocrite wearing a mask.”
5. John 7:24 Jesus is teaching that the law of mercy (healing the lame man) overrides the laws of Moses (regulations of the Sabbath). Seeing situations and people with the lens of mercy gives us true discernment.

I know this is not the answer you are seeking from me. For now I can't say yes or no... I like to be careful to whom I agree with. Even the Pharisees were blind to what Jesus was doing and they saw Him and heard Him speak. Still they accused Him of going against the Sabbath.

Just sharing one of my thoughts,
Blessings,
Snowrose

Snowrose, I am going to the head of the pack with you on this one, ok. And mediate on this: "To honor the "Sabbath Day the 7th day of the week" is a special blessing for mankind giving to us by God, for that is the only day that He proclaim as bless of The Lord throughout eternity. Now why would a man feel, a sense of hostility in honoring it. And call a Sunday a "7th day of the week" "Sunday a Christian Sabbath". "Sunday The Christians 7th" that God gave no command to, That command is given by the "RCC"! And has been documented. The 1st church did not worship on the 1st day of the week as a command, it is not recorded no where in the Bible whatsoever in such a way. But you may choose anyday of the week to worship, it is ok. The 1st. Church worship God everyday! I myself Worship GOD everyday in "Spirit and Truth".

Jesus said: "Woman, believe me. The hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you Worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we Worship what we know; for salvation is from the Jews. But the hour is coming and is Now here, WHEN The True Worshippers WILL Worship The Father in "Spirit and Truth", FOR The Father is Seeking Such People to Worship Him. GOD is a Spirit, And those who Worship Him "MUST" Worship HIM in "Spirit and Truth". (John 4).ESV.


I have nothing against worshiping of God on anyday a person may choose. But a day of complete rest, that God has bless, is the "7th Day" of the week, and He said: remember it, meaning. Remember "Why I Made That Day"!

Now, I will ask you the question "SnowRose". Why did GOD the Creator make the "7th Day" of the week? Why was it made? Why was the "Sun" made? Why did GOD make the Moon? Why did God make a brain? Ok. Why did GOD make the 7th day? For what purpose?

 

[Snowrose]

Ploughboy, I truly understand the point of this dialogue. I know that the 7th day (whether it be a Sunday or a Saturday) was meant to be a day of rest....a time to be spent with the Lord in His rest and to worship Him. But I don't see the purpose of arguing about it. What is important is my relationship with the Lord EVERY day. Division in many churches has been caused by the colour of the carpet, to the music that is played... now we are looking at what day we are to worship (or rest) in the Lord. To what point... to prove who is right?

Whatever day that we rest in... does not take away from God's character and Who He is. He is the Alpha and the Omega (the beginning and the end). He will have the last word. At the beginning of creation, He spoke the first word and at the end of the world, He will say the last. Whatever words I say is nothing.

In the book of Job, we see several men arguing their case in their knowledge of God... I'm sure shakes His head. At the end (Job 42) we find Job humbled by the Lord's reply to them all .... and he says to the God....
2 “I know that You can do all things,
And that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted.
3 ‘Who is this that hides counsel without knowledge?’
Therefore I have declared that which I did not understand,
Things too wonderful for me, which I did not know.”
4 ‘Hear, now, and I will speak; I will ask You, and You instruct me.’
5 “I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear; But now my eye sees You;
6 Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes.”

I bless you Ploughboy... for your heart that is on fire for Lord. And I do wish you all the best in your relationship with Him. But we got to be very careful in our speech with each other... our very purpose here is to encourage not to tear down. By doing this, it will make our journey with the Lord on this earth a whole lot easier. So if I caused an offense, I am sorry. It was not my intent. But I do know Whom I worship and I do desire to rest in Him every day.....Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

1 Thessalonians 5:11 TPT.... Because of this, encourage the hearts of your fellow believers and support one another, just as you have already been doing.

This will be the end of my replies,
With best regards
Snowrose