Does the Bible support Women Preachers? ( Debate -- Long video)

[Christ4Ever]

It was Barak that asked Deborah to go with him, and he said he would not go, unless she would go, but that does not make her a a military commander, the 10,000 men went after Barak, not after Deborah.

The point being that Barak would not go if Deborah did not go. Who is the leader here and who is the follower?
What would a military commander have to do with a non-combatant?
As a retired military member, you don't want non-combatants there because they have a tendency of getting in the way.

We know that God allowed Deborah to be a judge, but what about kings?

You are welcome to address the other aspects as you wish, but I have only one King, and He is King of kings!

I find it interesting how one commentary can motivate one to no end.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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[Gerbolski]

The point being that Barak would not go if Deborah did not go. Who is the leader here and who is the follower?
What would a military commander have to do with a non-combatant?
As a retired military member, you don't want non-combatants there because they have a tendency of getting in the way.


You are welcome to address the other aspects as you wish, but I have only one King, and He is King of kings!

I find it interesting how one commentary can motivate one to no end.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Oh well I guess we disagree on these aspects of things, and I quoted the bible concerning the Debora and Barak thing via who commanded the 10,000.

There was kings in the bible, and then there is the king of kings Jesus, and via the Debora issue, if you want to look at commentaries, not all of them agree, and not all agree on you view of Deborah, there is no evidence of Debora killing with sword, but there is with Gideon.

But in the end it is what God says that matters, we all have our part in the body, in one way or another.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Oh well I guess we disagree on these aspects of things, and I quoted the bible concerning the Debora and Barak thing via who commanded the 10,000.

There was kings in the bible, and then there is the king of kings Jesus, and via the Debora issue, if you want to look at commentaries, not all of them agree, and not all agree on you view of Deborah, there is no evidence of Debora killing with sword, but there is with Gideon.

But in the end it is what God says that matters, we all have our part in the body, in one way or another.

I believe that regardless of our interpretations or beliefs from reading scripture, God’s will be always fulfilled, whether women are in ministry or not.
God bless you and yours brother.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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[Rockerduck]

The point being that Barak would not go if Deborah did not go. Who is the leader here and who is the follower?
What would a military commander have to do with a non-combatant?
As a retired military member, you don't want non-combatants there because they have a tendency of getting in the way.


You are welcome to address the other aspects as you wish, but I have only one King, and He is King of kings!

I find it interesting how one commentary can motivate one to no end.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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At that time, Barack and Israel had never been in a battle since Josuah, 100 yrs earlier. Deborah said go, He said God talked to you, not me. God is with you, not me. You go with me. Barack never saw a Miracle of God fighting for Israel. In Barack's eyes it impossible. He needed a prophet with him. I'll bet the next time he had confidence. Samuel rode with King Saul by the way.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Samuel rode with King Saul by the way.

Not always.

 

[Rockerduck]

Not always.

neither did Deborah with Barack

 

[Christ4Ever]

neither did Deborah with Barack

Since Barack was in only one recorded battle, I guess not. lol

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

1Ti 2:12
(12) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1Co 14:34
(34) Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

When it speaks of silence, we know that it is not referring to complete silence, for women can worship the Lord, can prophesy, can witness to people, but women in the realm of being a preacher or teacher in the church, they cannot, they ought to be silent in that way.


1Ti 3:2
(2) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

Some men are called to be overseers in the church, although doing so with the right attitude, to were they have an actual calling on their lives.

And they do so from a servant's heart.

So when God calls someone to become an overseer, it is a man (not a woman), that he will call, just simply because that is his order.


Rom 16:3-5
(3) Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
(4) Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.
(5) Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.

Just because people gather at Priscilla and Aquilla's house , does not mean that the woman Priscilla is a preacher, saying such is adding to the text.


Rom 16:1-2
(1) I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:
(2) That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.

I think the KJV, interpreted it right in calling Phebe a servant, she had a servant's heart and came to the succor of many, but it in no way implies her being in some office of the church.

There is absolutely no evidence of her, teaching or preaching in front of the church, absolutely none.

You're spouting churchianity doctrine here, not Word....Study the subject deeply and you will see how wrong you are....What does God say about the subject?

 

[Bill]

You're spouting churchianity doctrine here, not Word....Study the subject deeply and you will see how wrong you are....What does God say about the subject?

May Jesus fill us with this love.

After reading what I read from him that you quoted and now reading your post, you just made me laugh basically.

You ask him to tell you what the Bible says, after he quotes you scripture. I think it's a matter that you're not willing to listen to in the first place.

As for the word churchianity , I have to even look that up to see if it is a word. LOL. You remind me of some of those youngsters that come up with words out of the blue that makes people scratch their heads.

Sincerely, bill

 

[Christ4Ever]

I wonder if Catholics have an iron in this fire, considering that marriage is not something that they allow for their priesthood.
Yet, they do allow nuns to teach in their schools, that would include both males & females. (Heavy sigh).



With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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[Gothedral]

The idea of debating God on this point is how Lucifer's situation went from bad to worse. And (I say) even then, Eve spiritually slayed the dragon. You step on that serpent, Grandmother. haha ️