Does the Bible support Women Preachers? ( Debate -- Long video)

[Corn]

ALL those who hold to women can be called as pastors and elders would be a single NT verse to support that notion, but there are none, so base their rationale upon contemporary cultural norms and practices

Ok.

 

[Gothedral]

Whoa there brother. Fact-checking the Holy Word with the Holy Word shows that judges and prophets are leaders in the church. I remember that when David was asked to wear a crown by people, the judges and prophets insisted that Israel the obedient church already has a King, the LORD. That David and later Solomon wore a crown and took on the title of lower-case king does not change the Way the Truth and the Life. (Look at the Books of Kings lol). Judges and prophets are leaders in the church, just like pastors, ministers, evangelists, and bishops, brother's keeper, and whatever other titles the LORD of lords, King of kings, and GOD commands.

KJV 1 Timothy chapter 2 is the proper response. Women shall have no authority over men, so they cannot preach, nor baptize, nor presume to preside over the congregation. Why this thread is ongoing makes me lol like Elijah versus the cult of Baal.

This isn't about the nuances of the words "preach" and "teach" and "testify", this hamster wheel is an attack just like how the Serpent did to Eve in Eden.

Filter your water, pray over your anti-parasitic nutriceuticals, and let us fast for a month, @everyone.

Nah? Fine.

 

[YeshuaFan]

Whoa there brother. Fact-checking the Holy Word with the Holy Word shows that judges and prophets are leaders in the church. I remember that when David was asked to wear a crown by people, the judges and prophets insisted that Israel the obedient church already has a King, the LORD. That David and later Solomon wore a crown and took on the title of lower-case king does not change the Way the Truth and the Life. (Look at the Books of Kings lol). Judges and prophets are leaders in the church, just like pastors, ministers, evangelists, and bishops, brother's keeper, and whatever other titles the LORD of lords, King of kings, and GOD commands.

KJV 1 Timothy chapter 2 is the proper response. Women shall have no authority over men, so they cannot preach, nor baptize, nor presume to preside over the congregation. Why this thread is ongoing makes me lol like Elijah versus the cult of Baal.

This isn't about the nuances of the words "preach" and "teach" and "testify", this hamster wheel is an attack just like how the Serpent did to Eve in Eden.

Filter your water, pray over your anti-parasitic nutriceuticals, and let us fast for a month, @everyone.

Nah? Fine.

Simple answer from the bible would be that woman are not called to be Pastor nor elder in local assemblies

 

[Gothedral]

Simple answer from the bible would be that woman are not called to be Pastor nor elder in local assemblies

chapter and verse

 

[Corn]

I do not have to believe anything.
I believe simple. Others say if this is right, this and this must be right.
I do what I believe. I do not believe in a book of rules . I believe in 1 rule...
Love your neighbor as yourself. Feed Those who are hungry and homeless.

 

[Corn]

I do not have to believe anything.
I believe simple. Others say if this is right, this and this must be right.
I do what I believe. I do not believe in a book of rules . I believe in 1 rule...
Love your neighbor as yourself. Feed Those who are hungry and homeless.

Works, not justification.

 

[YeshuaFan]

chapter and verse

Every passage and verse states to us plainly men are to be the Pastors, overseers, and Elders of local churches

 

[Corn]

Every passage and verse states to us plainly men are to be the Pastors, overseers, and Elders of local churches

I don't really live by ancient texts. We live in a nondiscrimonatory country so, ancient Texts do not fit this mold.
I see many women preachers. I'm a woman and I feel a calling. I'll describe my callings...
Once, I worked a job and they embezzled. I was bookkeeper for state Medicare. I became a whistle blower a divorced under cover 2 years. Then litigated several...and eventually the government Insurance program "The Equitable " died. My life was in danger, Col. ALLISON at the Whitehouseoved my family to an airbase to live.
This is how a calling works.
No questions or rules
You just go or you don't
I don't believe there's any certain path, it's just when your heart hears the people cry out in pain, I feel it inside and I want to help. If it's a call to power, you won't be asking. When a calling happens, the road is paved already..?

 

[Gothedral]

I don't really live by ancient texts. We live in a nondiscrimonatory country so, ancient Texts do not fit this mold.

Christians know creation has a Creator, and we live and die by God's Word. Sometimes what God says is written down somewhere Lol. And once you know this, you are responsible for that information.

I see many women preachers. I'm a woman and I feel a calling. I'll describe my callings...

And they are, by Christ's standards, doing something wrong to themselves and humanity at large. Fatherhood and Motherhood are natural world things, and also two different responsibilities with the same supernatural origin and goal.

This is how a calling works.

No questions or rules
You just go or you don't

The "no questions or rules" part is why you are damned to unsatisfaction. I mean, look at the density of elements for example, and in the mirror. Have you read Genesis chapter 1 recently? That was a question pertaining to universal law We invite you to read and ponder that, with (New Testament) James 1:5-6 for proactivity.

I don't believe there's any certain path, it's just when your heart hears the people cry out in pain, I feel it inside and I want to help. If it's a call to power, you won't be asking. When a calling happens, the road is paved already..?

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and there is no other path to Heaven that promises this with any surety (Apostle John's journal, 14:6).
Genesis chapter 1 is a perfect example of where one's natural inclination of caring for the world at large comes from.
Also noted that twice you insist on taking action without question, yet the third mention is your end punctuation mark. Animals have instincts, but humans have discernment. And that is what Christians know to be a gift of the Holy Spirit of God.

None if this is a so-called random chance and chaos with nothing but oblivion to show for it - this is a lie of the Devil, (and his followers disguised as lower-case gods) who is also a quite real being intent on confusion and destruction. Such is the case in point by Genesis chapter 3.

This is probably a barrage of data for you, so I'll stop here so you can ponder and meditate on asking God about Jesus Christ and any other things anyone ever wonder about. Peace be with you. ️

 

[Corn]

I'm going to give you my opinion .
I believe in nature. I believe that God created the earth and that all food was given this way. I do not believe in Science. I hear your Science interpretation of an an ancient text and your explanations do not leave room for my beliefs. If you believe in science, you can't believe my way. I believe in Creation.
I understand both worlds but I gave up Science because when I was 7 i did t believe it in School. My father said I didn't have to believe it , so I didn't. I used my free choice. I chose it.
I'm not trying to down your beliefs at all. You create your own collection of beliefs.
Essentially, my father was lost. I'm hunting his relatives. I'm sharing MY beliefs that align mostly with his. It's like a puzzle with a piece missing. I'm trying to see where I fit. I'm not trying to judge your beliefs. Sorry.

 

[YeshuaFan]

I'm going to give you my opinion .
I believe in nature. I believe that God created the earth and that all food was given this way. I do not believe in Science. I hear your Science interpretation of an an ancient text and your explanations do not leave room for my beliefs. If you believe in science, you can't believe my way. I believe in Creation.
I understand both worlds but I gave up Science because when I was 7 i did t believe it in School. My father said I didn't have to believe it , so I didn't. I used my free choice. I chose it.
I'm not trying to down your beliefs at all. You create your own collection of beliefs.
Essentially, my father was lost. I'm hunting his relatives. I'm sharing MY beliefs that align mostly with his. It's like a puzzle with a piece missing. I'm trying to see where I fit. I'm not trying to judge your beliefs. Sorry.

Do you see the bible as being inspired and authoritative? Do you hold to the Fundamentals of the Faith?

 

[YeshuaFan]

I don't really live by ancient texts. We live in a nondiscrimonatory country so, ancient Texts do not fit this mold.
I see many women preachers. I'm a woman and I feel a calling. I'll describe my callings...
Once, I worked a job and they embezzled. I was bookkeeper for state Medicare. I became a whistle blower a divorced under cover 2 years. Then litigated several...and eventually the government Insurance program "The Equitable " died. My life was in danger, Col. ALLISON at the Whitehouseoved my family to an airbase to live.
This is how a calling works.
No questions or rules
You just go or you don't
I don't believe there's any certain path, it's just when your heart hears the people cry out in pain, I feel it inside and I want to help. If it's a call to power, you won't be asking. When a calling happens, the road is paved already..?

IF one is a Christian, the bible would be seen as being inspired and authoritative scriptures to us from God regarding all doctrines and practices

 

[Corn]

Christians know creation has a Creator, and we live and die by God's Word. Sometimes what God says is written down somewhere Lol. And once you know this, you are responsible for that information.


And they are, by Christ's standards, doing something wrong to themselves and humanity at large. Fatherhood and Motherhood are natural world things, and also two different responsibilities with the same supernatural origin and goal.


The "no questions or rules" part is why you are damned to unsatisfaction. I mean, look at the density of elements for example, and in the mirror. Have you read Genesis chapter 1 recently? That was a question pertaining to universal law We invite you to read and ponder that, with (New Testament) James 1:5-6 for proactivity.


The Lord Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and there is no other path to Heaven that promises this with any surety (Apostle John's journal, 14:6).
Genesis chapter 1 is a perfect example of where one's natural inclination of caring for the world at large comes from.
Also noted that twice you insist on taking action without question, yet the third mention is your end punctuation mark. Animals have instincts, but humans have discernment. And that is what Christians know to be a gift of the Holy Spirit of God.

None if this is a so-called random chance and chaos with nothing but oblivion to show for it - this is a lie of the Devil, (and his followers disguised as lower-case gods) who is also a quite real being intent on confusion and destruction. Such is the case in point by Genesis chapter 3.

This is probably a barrage of data for you, so I'll stop here so you can ponder and meditate on asking God about Jesus Christ and any other things anyone ever wonder about. Peace be with you. ️

What is this way that you speak of?
One way?
I believe that the One way is Love.
I believe that government says don't share your home. Don't share your food. They scare you with viruses and say do not share hugs don't share space...
God says LOVE ALL.
Government is hate. They claiM THAT GOD DID NOT CREATE THE EARTH! I DONT BELIEVE THEM!
They offer prescription medications that do not heal. You can't believe in prescription and natural medicine at the same time. You can't belive the Bible and Science at the same time. You can't believe in talent if you believe in Music theory. You can't believe in hate and Love at the same time. You can't believe in money if you trust in God like the birds and the bees.
I believe in Love.
I believe that Love Conquers All.
Sorry to offend anyone.
I have a 700+page tox report show8ng that I received enough toxins to kill me by 2023. Ot cost $800,000.00 natural medicine while insurance admits that I must use natural medicine, as medical don't follow healing. They only diagnose by symptoms. I had 24 types of cancer at once with a 2 year life expectancy. I CHose the dandilion-one of God's answer for cancer. I'm still here and I'm saying you through litigation and telling of the ways of the dandilion. I'm showing others the way.
I'm like the dandelion. I just go where Sent and wait. When things happen, I speak up and fight for people.I bloom where planted. I have no book. I learned what I needed and I got busy. I may not even be 100% by the book. I try to save those on death row by voting online. I Voice my love for people to my leaders. I try to save people . My study days are over. Go with your heart. Love Everyone the same.

 

[MedicBravo]

I don't really live by ancient texts. We live in a nondiscrimonatory country so, ancient Texts do not fit this mold.
I see many women preachers. I'm a woman and I feel a calling. I'll describe my callings...
Once, I worked a job and they embezzled. I was bookkeeper for state Medicare. I became a whistle blower a divorced under cover 2 years. Then litigated several...and eventually the government Insurance program "The Equitable " died. My life was in danger, Col. ALLISON at the Whitehouseoved my family to an airbase to live.
This is how a calling works.
No questions or rules
You just go or you don't
I don't believe there's any certain path, it's just when your heart hears the people cry out in pain, I feel it inside and I want to help. If it's a call to power, you won't be asking. When a calling happens, the road is paved already..?

Then you're not a Christian if you don't.
The Bible is complete and for all time. We're not talking about secular positions.
Any woman that "feels" a calling to start or lead a church as pastor isn't coming from God that is for certain.
Those "ancient texts" greatly influenced humanity and to the point America's Founding Fathers and our documents were written and influenced by it.

Jesus was/is the most influential person/figure in all of humanity.
The Bible is the most influential and truthful religious and historical text in existence.
Those "women" are not "preachers" either.

 

[Corn]

Ok then you're the judge.
I just gave opinion. Toy have a system of beliefs...I believe this because this is true and I don't believe that but if this is true...
Well I don't do that because a lot is lost in translation. I know because I learned Hebrew to know things from the original text. I got my own Hebrew Bible and read it from right to left for myself and I found my answers.
Now I'm sure you did the same...
But we both could believe things that are Miles apart...because we all have our own brain. But it's actions that result from your beliefs. You choose your own beliefs. I choose mine.
What you do determines your own life and it has nothing to do with me or my beliefs.
I'm happy to see that you are seeking truth. I hope that my own opinions do not discourage you. Love is the way

 

[MedicBravo]

You choose your own beliefs. I choose mine.

That's the problem. You believe what God and the Bible say or you don't.
"Cherry picking Christians" aren't going to end up in a good place.
Repeating what the Judge said is not judging.
We are told HOW to and WHY.
We are also told to avoid those who preach/tell a different Gospel.
Ex: People who think there can be LGB+ "Christians" in unrepentant sin.
God and the Bible said "No." to women as leaders and of authority over men in the church.
If you or anyone else has a problem with it that's a You problem.
If you don't like what I or someone else repeats what the Judge has said then that's a You problem.
Secular thing? The secular world doesn't care about Christians or a "woman's career".

 

[Corn]

That's the problem. You believe what God and the Bible say or you don't.
"Cherry picking Christians" aren't going to end up in a good place.
Repeating what the Judge said is not judging.
We are told HOW to and WHY.
We are also told to avoid those who preach/tell a different Gospel.
Ex: People who think there can be LGB+ "Christians" in unrepentant sin.
God and the Bible said "No." to women as leaders and of authority over men in the church.
If you or anyone else has a problem with it that's a You problem.
If you don't like what I or someone else repeats what the Judge has said then that's a You problem.
Secular thing? The secular world doesn't care about Christians or a "woman's career".

I feel it too. There's so much confusion. But here's why.
You were educated in school first. All else you understand because of your basic building blocks. You can't explain miracles through a belief system like science.
So creation is nature. It's a different state of mind. If you think about something created like food...it comes from Earth. But now it comes from trays and fake dirt and gmo. This means no nutrients in food. If you eat from gods bounty prepared for you, you would not be sick or get cancer. But we buy commercial non food and eat it. Now we can't even see.
I eat dandelions. They have ice on top every morning yet they live for me. I pick them and they die for me so that I might live. It's God's table where he provides your food for his creations so they never go without food and it can't be controlled.
I believe I'm native American. I am part of the earth. The earth created is your Garden.
Government food kills you.
Eat from Nature's table that has been provided for all who believe and you will see. I apologize for sounding like a kook. I don't care what anyone believes. I believe in love for all.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

May Jesus fill us with this love.

After reading what I read from him that you quoted and now reading your post, you just made me laugh basically.

You ask him to tell you what the Bible says, after he quotes you scripture. I think it's a matter that you're not willing to listen to in the first place.

As for the word churchianity , I have to even look that up to see if it is a word. LOL. You remind me of some of those youngsters that come up with words out of the blue that makes people scratch their heads.

Sincerely, bill

Bill satan quoted scripture to Jesus when he tempted Him.....Was he right? The scripture was out of context when satan used it, and it was out of context when

May Jesus fill us with this love.

After reading what I read from him that you quoted and now reading your post, you just made me laugh basically.

You ask him to tell you what the Bible says, after he quotes you scripture. I think it's a matter that you're not willing to listen to in the first place.

As for the word churchianity , I have to even look that up to see if it is a word. LOL. You remind me of some of those youngsters that come up with words out of the blue that makes people scratch their heads.

Sincerely, bill

Bill satan quoted scripture to Jesus when he tempted Him.....Was he right? The scripture was out of context when satan used it, and it was out of context when our friend made his remark.... Read it and see....For the context you have to back up almost five chapters...Keep in mind that a text without a context is just a pretext....a lie. Not saying our friend lied but he IS believing something taught by demons...thats something we need to avoid.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

I wonder if Catholics have an iron in this fire, considering that marriage is not something that they allow for their priesthood.
Yet, they do allow nuns to teach in their schools, that would include both males & females. (Heavy sigh).



With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Of course the 'Catholics' have an iron in the fire....Many many Romanist are born again Christians. And trutthfully ordinary Christians have some weird beliefs too....We don't jump on them, Why jump on the Catholics?

 

[MedicBravo]

"You were educated in school first." - Untrue.
I started my education at home and with God, my mom's parents; my grandparents. My cousins, my brothers, and I went to their church for a time before I went to public school.
"You can't explain miracles through a belief system like science." - On some level you can.
How? If any and all explanations of a miracle cannot be explained then the only other plausible, inference is God. No other "religion" can back up their miracles or prophesy.
Science can explain many things but of course not everything. In fact, Science is wrong and wrong a lot and more often than people think. It's why we have the Scientific Method. It's why the "Big Bang Theory" will always stay a theory.

God gave us everything we needed through nature. Ex: I've used pure honey on all minor wounds for the past 8 years at least. That is another topic.
God also gave us the intelligence to learn and use modern medicine effectively and to harm. Yet another topic.

By default, we (humans) are supposed to take care of each other. Self the spouse, children, parents, siblings, etc. in that order.
We're all Carbon based life forms and from Genesis we are all "part of the earth".
Your "love for all" isn't going to work. There are people too far gone and too evil to be saved and God tells us how to know such people.
If you take a severe pacifist nature towards such evil, then your changes of it taking you out will leave your loved ones at a higher chance of as well.
God commands us to fight evil when and where we see it.
Call me a realist.
The Bible is an "ancient" text b/c God finished what He had to say. There's no new information given "secretly" to certain people.
If you really know the Bible then the Earth is young, not old and Creation isn't old either. It just looks that way.