Fallen is Babylon the Great

[Sue J Love]

“After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was made bright with his glory. And he called out with a mighty voice,

“’Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!
She has become a dwelling place for demons,
a haunt for every unclean spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable beast.
For all nations have drunk
the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality,
and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her,
and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living.’

“Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,
‘Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;
for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.
Pay her back as she herself has paid back others,
and repay her double for her deeds;
mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed.
As she glorified herself and lived in luxury,
so give her a like measure of torment and mourning,
since in her heart she says,
‘I sit as a queen,
I am no widow,
and mourning I shall never see.’
For this reason her plagues will come in a single day,
death and mourning and famine,
and she will be burned up with fire;
for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her.’

“And the kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning. They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say,

“’Alas! Alas! You great city,
you mighty city, Babylon!
For in a single hour your judgment has come.’” (Revelation 18:1-10 ESV)

I live in the United States of America. Beginning in 2004 the Lord Jesus began opening up my eyes to see who my nation really is and the kinds of things that they were and are still doing across the globe in many other nations, and for a very long time. And he had me write down what he was showing and teaching me, and he had me put these writings on the internet. There are about 1000 writings on this subject alone, I believe.

And what the Lord has shown me about my nation has been solidified and verified by many sources over the past 20 years, and when I was not even looking for verification. And a lot of this is public information, but it has largely been identified as “conspiracy theories,” which is anything that is said or written which expresses anything contrary to the official narrative being shared by the US government and via the government controlled media.

A few years ago I was posting these writings on a different Christian website than what I post on now, and two ladies approached me and told me, not so kindly, that “Everyone knows that,” as though what I was sharing was generally accepted and out in the public knowledge. I was very surprised at their response, and so I responded back to them, “Not in my world. They don’t.” For not many people I know are seeing what is really going on in the world.

Now it would take a very long time to explain all that the Lord has shown me on this subject over the past 20 years, and which has been verified multiple times, over many years, so I am going to attempt to simplify this as much as possible, but this is my understanding of what the Lord has opened my eyes to see and of what I have read and listened to by other sources in the know because some of them have personally witnessed what is going on.

Basically I have come to believe that the USA is this mystery Babylon. From what I know and understand of my nation’s dealings and activities in the other nations around the world, and within my own nation, there is no other nation on the face of this earth with the power, control, and influence that the USA has presently, has had, and possibly still will have for a limited time before God visits her in judgment, which I believe is not far off in the future.

If you look at our national seal and the symbolism in there, and if you look at the history of our nation and all the wars they have been engaged in, and if you look at the buildings and statues in Washington, D.C., our nation’s capital, and if you look at what other religions were foundational to the beginning of our nation (other than Christianity), I believe you will see that the USA was founded on much idolatry, false gods, and a hidden purpose.

And I believe that the purpose was to use the USA to bring about the order of the beast (the New World Order). So I believe that the USA is the harlot who rides the beast and who is hated by the other nations who will bring her to ruin one day, which could be not that far off. For the de facto government of the USA is not the puppets we have seen “leading” our nation all these years, but it is a shadow government of the elite, wealthy, and powerful people of the world, which is now out in the open, no longer hidden.

Please ask the Lord to show you who this beast is, for he isn’t just one person. He is a conglomerate of many people – kings, queens, heads of state, CEOs of corporations, the wealthy elite, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, NATO, the UN, the IMF, the World Bank, the Federal Reserve, the entertainment industry, the media, the institutional church, the Jewish nation, and the US government, and so much more.

And with regard to the harlot (Babylon), I believe that as far as a physical location is concerned that she is the USA, mainly the government, but also the entertainment industry, and the media, and the institutional market-driven worldly church (businesses), and the pharmaceutical industry, and many corporations and CEOs of corporations who are also part of the beast. But this isn’t just physical, but it is spiritual in nature, but not of God.

So this Babylon is largely the worldly church which is in bed with the government and with the world (the lust of the eyes, the lusts of the flesh, and the pride of life), and that is why we who believe in Jesus are being encouraged to come out from among her so that we do not share in her sins and in her punishment. We are not to unequally yoke together with the ungodly, and yet that is what these market-driven churches have done.

But this engages us coming out from all that is of the flesh and of the world and that is corrupt and of ungodly influences in our lives. For this is about demons and unclean spirits and sexual immorality (which is running rampant in today’s church in America). And this is about idolatry and us making other humans or nations the idols we worship instead of us worshiping God alone with our lives. We are to forsake all idols and worship God/Christ alone.

And we are not to turn God’s house, his church, his body (the body of Christ, the body of believers in Christ) into a marketplace to be marketed to the people of the world, although that is mostly what these institutional churches in America have done these days. For they have altered the message of the gospel and the character of God/Christ and his church in order to attract the world to their gatherings, so as not to offend them.

And that is not biblical Christianity! That is compromise with the world, and it is part of what Babylon is all about. And this has brought about the spreading of sexual immorality within the gatherings of these “churches” (businesses), because most of them are not teaching the necessity of self-denial, dying to sin daily, and walking (in conduct) in obedience to our Lord and in surrender to his will for our lives. They leave the door wide open to keep sinning while claiming salvation from sin and eternal life with God.

But it isn’t just the spiritual condition of the church at stake here, but it is the things that our government has been doing to people in other nations, and to their nations, over so many years, which is absolutely criminal, utterly cruel, and absolutely obscene and corrupt. For their actions in all these other nations has had as its purpose to bring about this rule of the beast and to bring all people in the world in submission to this beast.

So, the Lord is calling for his people to come out from underneath the influence of the world, of worldly governments (in this case the USA), and of all that is idolatrous and adulterous and that is contrary to God’s will and purpose for our lives. We are not to turn the body of Christ into a marketplace to be marketed to the world, and we are not to partner with the ungodly in their ungodly deeds, but we are to worship God and God alone.

Please take what I have shared here to God in prayer.

[Matthew 21:12-13; John 2:13-17; Acts 5:27-32; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18; Philippians 3:18-19; Revelation 13:5-8; Revelation 18:1-5]

For Our Nation

An Original Work / September 11, 2012

Bombs are bursting. Night is falling.
Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.
Trust Him with your life today.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
Turn from your sin. Follow Jesus.
He will forgive you of your sin;
Cleanse your heart, made new within.

Men betraying: Our trust fraying.
On our knees to God we’re praying,
Seeking God to give us answers
That are only found in Him.
God is sovereign over all things.
Nothing from His mind escaping.
He has all things under His command,
And will work all for good.

Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.

Men deceiving: We’re believing
In our Lord, and interceding
For our nation and its people
To obey their God today.
He is our hope for our future.
For our wounds He offers suture.
He is all we need for this life.
Trust Him with your life today.

 

[Bill]

I live in the United States of America. Beginning in 2004 the Lord Jesus began opening up my eyes to see who my nation really is and the kinds of things that they were and are still doing across the globe in many other nations, and for a very long time. And he had me write down what he was showing and teaching me, and he had me put these writings on the internet. There are about 1000 writings on this subject alone, I believe.

And what the Lord has shown me about my nation has been solidified and verified by many sources over the past 20 years, and when I was not even looking for verification. And a lot of this is public information, but it has largely been identified as “conspiracy theories,” which is anything that is said or written which expresses anything contrary to the official narrative being shared by the US government and via the government controlled media.

A few years ago I was posting these writings on a different Christian website than what I post on now, and two ladies approached me and told me, not so kindly, that “Everyone knows that,” as though what I was sharing was generally accepted and out in the public knowledge. I was very surprised at their response, and so I responded back to them, “Not in my world. They don’t.” For not many people I know are seeing what is really going on in the world.

Now it would take a very long time to explain all that the Lord has shown me on this subject over the past 20 years, and which has been verified multiple times, over many years, so I am going to attempt to simplify this as much as possible, but this is my understanding of what the Lord has opened my eyes to see and of what I have read and listened to by other sources in the know because some of them have personally witnessed what is going on.

Basically I have come to believe that the USA is this mystery Babylon. From what I know and understand of my nation’s dealings and activities in the other nations around the world, and within my own nation, there is no other nation on the face of this earth with the power, control, and influence that the USA has presently, has had, and possibly still will have for a limited time before God visits her in judgment, which I believe is not far off in the future.

If you look at our national seal and the symbolism in there, and if you look at the history of our nation and all the wars they have been engaged in, and if you look at the buildings and statues in Washington, D.C., our nation’s capital, and if you look at what other religions were foundational to the beginning of our nation (other than Christianity), I believe you will see that the USA was founded on much idolatry, false gods, and a hidden purpose.

And I believe that the purpose was to use the USA to bring about the order of the beast (the New World Order). So I believe that the USA is the harlot who rides the beast and who is hated by the other nations who will bring her to ruin one day, which could be not that far off. For the de facto government of the USA is not the puppets we have seen “leading” our nation all these years, but it is a shadow government of the elite, wealthy, and powerful people of the world, which is now out in the open, no longer hidden.

Please ask the Lord to show you who this beast is, for he isn’t just one person. He is a conglomerate of many people – kings, queens, heads of state, CEOs of corporations, the wealthy elite, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, NATO, the UN, the IMF, the World Bank, the Federal Reserve, the entertainment industry, the media, the institutional church, the Jewish nation, and the US government, and so much more.

And with regard to the harlot (Babylon), I believe that as far as a physical location is concerned that she is the USA, mainly the government, but also the entertainment industry, and the media, and the institutional market-driven worldly church (businesses), and the pharmaceutical industry, and many corporations and CEOs of corporations who are also part of the beast. But this isn’t just physical, but it is spiritual in nature, but not of God.

So this Babylon is largely the worldly church which is in bed with the government and with the world (the lust of the eyes, the lusts of the flesh, and the pride of life), and that is why we who believe in Jesus are being encouraged to come out from among her so that we do not share in her sins and in her punishment. We are not to unequally yoke together with the ungodly, and yet that is what these market-driven churches have done.

But this engages us coming out from all that is of the flesh and of the world and that is corrupt and of ungodly influences in our lives. For this is about demons and unclean spirits and sexual immorality (which is running rampant in today’s church in America). And this is about idolatry and us making other humans or nations the idols we worship instead of us worshiping God alone with our lives. We are to forsake all idols and worship God/Christ alone.

And we are not to turn God’s house, his church, his body (the body of Christ, the body of believers in Christ) into a marketplace to be marketed to the people of the world, although that is mostly what these institutional churches in America have done these days. For they have altered the message of the gospel and the character of God/Christ and his church in order to attract the world to their gatherings, so as not to offend them.

And that is not biblical Christianity! That is compromise with the world, and it is part of what Babylon is all about. And this has brought about the spreading of sexual immorality within the gatherings of these “churches” (businesses), because most of them are not teaching the necessity of self-denial, dying to sin daily, and walking (in conduct) in obedience to our Lord and in surrender to his will for our lives. They leave the door wide open to keep sinning while claiming salvation from sin and eternal life with God.

But it isn’t just the spiritual condition of the church at stake here, but it is the things that our government has been doing to people in other nations, and to their nations, over so many years, which is absolutely criminal, utterly cruel, and absolutely obscene and corrupt. For their actions in all these other nations has had as its purpose to bring about this rule of the beast and to bring all people in the world in submission to this beast.

So, the Lord is calling for his people to come out from underneath the influence of the world, of worldly governments (in this case the USA), and of all that is idolatrous and adulterous and that is contrary to God’s will and purpose for our lives. We are not to turn the body of Christ into a marketplace to be marketed to the world, and we are not to partner with the ungodly in their ungodly deeds, but we are to worship God and God alone.

Please take what I have shared here to God in prayer.

[Matthew 21:12-13; John 2:13-17; Acts 5:27-32; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18; Philippians 3:18-19; Revelation 13:5-8; Revelation 18:1-5]

For Our Nation

An Original Work / September 11, 2012

Bombs are bursting. Night is falling.
Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.
Trust Him with your life today.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
Turn from your sin. Follow Jesus.
He will forgive you of your sin;
Cleanse your heart, made new within.

Men betraying: Our trust fraying.
On our knees to God we’re praying,
Seeking God to give us answers
That are only found in Him.
God is sovereign over all things.
Nothing from His mind escaping.
He has all things under His command,
And will work all for good.

Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.

Men deceiving: We’re believing
In our Lord, and interceding
For our nation and its people
To obey their God today.
He is our hope for our future.
For our wounds He offers suture.
He is all we need for this life.
Trust Him with your life today.

May our Lord Jesus fill us with His wisdom and mercey.

You are very close in many ways, so let me help your understanding.

Everything stems from these principles. Love God with all your heart, Love God with all your mind, Love God with all your strength, Love God with all your spirit.

Heart, mind, strength, spirit.

And it is in these same avenues the devil attacks us.

The bottom line is to drive a wedge between God and us.

If you read the writing of George Washington's private journal, you will see his love for God, and the vision God gave to him about this nation, the USA.
This to me is important, as understanding, this nation was founded by God, and the devil hates us.

We can, at this time, see a lot of the fruition of the devils plans by how he attacks God's servants. And i say God's servants because whether you want to accept this or not. Donald Trump is one of God's servants.

Hard to believe? Not really.

The Lord told me that Donald Trump would be president at least 2 yrs before running in 2016. When i asked the Lord about Ted Cruise, the Lord said, "I have rejected him". On election night 2016, when it looked like Hilary was about to sweep the country. The Servant of God was sent to Donald Trump. He was told, do not fear, God is with you. And from that moment onward Trump began winning state after state.

During President Trumps first term, the Lord sent other messages to the President. One saying, "you (President Trump) are as a rock, God's Rock, and all the oceans in the world will attack you to no avail."
To this day, nothing has effected him, infact all these attacks has made his resolve stronger.

The Lord asked him if he would be willing to give his life for his country. President Donald Trump said yes.
The Lord showed me that President Trump would be assassinated during his second term in office. I recieved this during his first term, and told people here of it.

There is a book i would suggest you read, it is called "The Vision", i believe it was written by David Wilkerson.

Now going back to this country. Much is the same with any church at this time, and those who feel they do not need or want a church. All are affected by a form of corruption. This is not saying everyone is corrupt. But we all have a hand in it.

Some by your actions and others by inaction. Would the country be in the shape it is in today, if the Christians would actually stand together versus bickering all the time.

The Lord showed me all the churches, including the Catholics and Jews and individuals. All of them were like children in a big family. All were saying to the others. I know God, you don't. He is my Father not yours.
The Lord showed me, there were many many people in all the churches and individuals that loved God, and God loved all of them.

The same in this country. There are some very evil people who want to see the fall of the USA, but there are many many people who love this country.

Do not let those who control the media set a prejudice in your heart against the USA. This is God's country, and many Christian are God's children.

We will go though a chastisement, and God will be with us.

Just like when the apostles were scattered, so too will America experience thier Chastisement. I saw a vision of a slender firey arrow come down from heaven and hit the USA. The USA lit up quickly, completely on fire. Then a large firey arrow went from the USA to Europe and eventually the whole world.

The firey arrow is faith and love of God.

I hope this helps you some. I have more, but taking the wife out to breakfast.

Peace Always, Bill

 

[Bill]

I live in the United States of America. Beginning in 2004 the Lord Jesus began opening up my eyes to see who my nation really is and the kinds of things that they were and are still doing across the globe in many other nations, and for a very long time. And he had me write down what he was showing and teaching me, and he had me put these writings on the internet. There are about 1000 writings on this subject alone, I believe.

And what the Lord has shown me about my nation has been solidified and verified by many sources over the past 20 years, and when I was not even looking for verification. And a lot of this is public information, but it has largely been identified as “conspiracy theories,” which is anything that is said or written which expresses anything contrary to the official narrative being shared by the US government and via the government controlled media.

A few years ago I was posting these writings on a different Christian website than what I post on now, and two ladies approached me and told me, not so kindly, that “Everyone knows that,” as though what I was sharing was generally accepted and out in the public knowledge. I was very surprised at their response, and so I responded back to them, “Not in my world. They don’t.” For not many people I know are seeing what is really going on in the world.

Now it would take a very long time to explain all that the Lord has shown me on this subject over the past 20 years, and which has been verified multiple times, over many years, so I am going to attempt to simplify this as much as possible, but this is my understanding of what the Lord has opened my eyes to see and of what I have read and listened to by other sources in the know because some of them have personally witnessed what is going on.

Basically I have come to believe that the USA is this mystery Babylon. From what I know and understand of my nation’s dealings and activities in the other nations around the world, and within my own nation, there is no other nation on the face of this earth with the power, control, and influence that the USA has presently, has had, and possibly still will have for a limited time before God visits her in judgment, which I believe is not far off in the future.

If you look at our national seal and the symbolism in there, and if you look at the history of our nation and all the wars they have been engaged in, and if you look at the buildings and statues in Washington, D.C., our nation’s capital, and if you look at what other religions were foundational to the beginning of our nation (other than Christianity), I believe you will see that the USA was founded on much idolatry, false gods, and a hidden purpose.

And I believe that the purpose was to use the USA to bring about the order of the beast (the New World Order). So I believe that the USA is the harlot who rides the beast and who is hated by the other nations who will bring her to ruin one day, which could be not that far off. For the de facto government of the USA is not the puppets we have seen “leading” our nation all these years, but it is a shadow government of the elite, wealthy, and powerful people of the world, which is now out in the open, no longer hidden.

Please ask the Lord to show you who this beast is, for he isn’t just one person. He is a conglomerate of many people – kings, queens, heads of state, CEOs of corporations, the wealthy elite, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, NATO, the UN, the IMF, the World Bank, the Federal Reserve, the entertainment industry, the media, the institutional church, the Jewish nation, and the US government, and so much more.

And with regard to the harlot (Babylon), I believe that as far as a physical location is concerned that she is the USA, mainly the government, but also the entertainment industry, and the media, and the institutional market-driven worldly church (businesses), and the pharmaceutical industry, and many corporations and CEOs of corporations who are also part of the beast. But this isn’t just physical, but it is spiritual in nature, but not of God.

So this Babylon is largely the worldly church which is in bed with the government and with the world (the lust of the eyes, the lusts of the flesh, and the pride of life), and that is why we who believe in Jesus are being encouraged to come out from among her so that we do not share in her sins and in her punishment. We are not to unequally yoke together with the ungodly, and yet that is what these market-driven churches have done.

But this engages us coming out from all that is of the flesh and of the world and that is corrupt and of ungodly influences in our lives. For this is about demons and unclean spirits and sexual immorality (which is running rampant in today’s church in America). And this is about idolatry and us making other humans or nations the idols we worship instead of us worshiping God alone with our lives. We are to forsake all idols and worship God/Christ alone.

And we are not to turn God’s house, his church, his body (the body of Christ, the body of believers in Christ) into a marketplace to be marketed to the people of the world, although that is mostly what these institutional churches in America have done these days. For they have altered the message of the gospel and the character of God/Christ and his church in order to attract the world to their gatherings, so as not to offend them.

And that is not biblical Christianity! That is compromise with the world, and it is part of what Babylon is all about. And this has brought about the spreading of sexual immorality within the gatherings of these “churches” (businesses), because most of them are not teaching the necessity of self-denial, dying to sin daily, and walking (in conduct) in obedience to our Lord and in surrender to his will for our lives. They leave the door wide open to keep sinning while claiming salvation from sin and eternal life with God.

But it isn’t just the spiritual condition of the church at stake here, but it is the things that our government has been doing to people in other nations, and to their nations, over so many years, which is absolutely criminal, utterly cruel, and absolutely obscene and corrupt. For their actions in all these other nations has had as its purpose to bring about this rule of the beast and to bring all people in the world in submission to this beast.

So, the Lord is calling for his people to come out from underneath the influence of the world, of worldly governments (in this case the USA), and of all that is idolatrous and adulterous and that is contrary to God’s will and purpose for our lives. We are not to turn the body of Christ into a marketplace to be marketed to the world, and we are not to partner with the ungodly in their ungodly deeds, but we are to worship God and God alone.

Please take what I have shared here to God in prayer.

[Matthew 21:12-13; John 2:13-17; Acts 5:27-32; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18; Philippians 3:18-19; Revelation 13:5-8; Revelation 18:1-5]

For Our Nation

An Original Work / September 11, 2012

Bombs are bursting. Night is falling.
Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.
Trust Him with your life today.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
Turn from your sin. Follow Jesus.
He will forgive you of your sin;
Cleanse your heart, made new within.

Men betraying: Our trust fraying.
On our knees to God we’re praying,
Seeking God to give us answers
That are only found in Him.
God is sovereign over all things.
Nothing from His mind escaping.
He has all things under His command,
And will work all for good.

Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.

Men deceiving: We’re believing
In our Lord, and interceding
For our nation and its people
To obey their God today.
He is our hope for our future.
For our wounds He offers suture.
He is all we need for this life.
Trust Him with your life today.

May the love of Jesus be with us.

So i wanted to continue on some things few people are aware of, having to do with spiritual warfare.

Now manyknow what the scripture says about the spirits, i.e. Angels of God versus the darkness. But most do not know of its depth, and even my experience is limited.

The Lord brought me into what i refer to as heavy spiritual warfare back in 1979. At first, just getting my feet wet, the Lord kept me doing defensive fighting. Out of the body, spiritual warfare.
There are actually a few here that do this. But i am well aware of why they do not speak up, it is because of the unbelief and ridicual that people will post at them - even on this "Christian" websight.

(That in itself i find remarkable, the unbelief and ridicual that come here. You would think people claiming to have the Gifts of the Spirit would actually use those Gifts if there were questions. And the other thing, people should marvel at God's Greatness versus trying to find a direct link in scripture. Like i always ask them, what scripture verse did Peter use to know it was ok to walk on the water. At that time, Jesus had not as yet been revealed as the Messiah. You see the hypocrisy right. Lol)

In my spiritual work, you may find this crazy - i know i do. But there are people in the world who "WANT" to be the anti-christ. I have been involved with so many huge battles (yes, the Armor of God, Sword and Shield are all very real, not just a talking point.) It is rare to meet other humans in battle, and far more rare to meet others who have done this.

For myself, i am the most vocal person i know that openly talks about it. I will not reveal those here, like i said the unChristians come out of the woodwork.

I used to talk more here about my experiences. Maybe i will share some again.

So i talked a little about how the darkness affects us spiritually in spiritual warfare of a direct battle view. But there are other ways in which we become aware of the spiritual attacks . Like when Obama was voted in as President. Did you feel as if a great weight was set on your shoulders. How about the mass effect to the negative with 50 shades of grey. Or to the positive with the Passion of the Christ.

The negative ones come from powerful demons that can effect many people at once.

There is another type of spiritual warfare, the term for it that you hear sometimes, "A Sea Change". 911 was a sea change. Covid was a sea change. The Beast that comes out of the sea, as scripture states, is a sea change. Something so big it with change the way everyone thinks. The mark of the beast will be a sea change.

Remember heart, mind, spirit, strength.

God bless you, hope this all helps

 

[Oseas]

I live in the United States of America. Beginning in 2004 the Lord Jesus began opening up my eyes to see who my nation really is and the kinds of things that they were and are still doing across the globe in many other nations, and for a very long time. And he had me write down what he was showing and teaching me, and he had me put these writings on the internet. There are about 1000 writings on this subject alone, I believe.

Speaking of Babylon, Revelation 18:24 says: And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. By the way, the main and most greatest Prophet who was slain in Babylon was the Messiah-JESUS-Revelation 11:8.

Revelation 18:8-Therefore shall her plagues come in one Day(, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Revelation 18:18-19
18 And they cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that GREAT CITY (Revelation 17:18), wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea(sea is waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues), all that have connection with the Beast of sea and his idolater and satanic religion-Revelation 13:1- , a religious MONSTER having 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his 10 horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy).

Revelation 17:18 - The angel of the Lord said:
The woman which thou sawest is that GREAT CITY(Revelation 18:18-19), which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Revelation 17:12- The ten horns which thou sawest are 10 kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but (will) receive power as kings one hour(in the 1st half of the last week-Revelation 13:2) (together) with the (Gentilic MAN) Beast.(of sea).

That said, the USA is not Babylon. Babyln is no a mere individual nation, in fact the USA, it is only more one nation within the Babylon, and will be burned together Babylon as a whole, understand? 2Peter 3:7:

7 But the heavens(heavens? the 1st and 2nd heavens-the OT and NT) and the earth (the current Israel, the clay-Isaiah 64:8-, the dry land), which are now, by the same Word (Word of GOD) are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against this Day of Judgment (the Judgment Seat of Christ, in this seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium), and perdition of ungodly men.

Isaiah 33:10-14

10 Now will I rise, saith the Lord; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself.

11 Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you.

12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.

13 Hear, ye that are far off, what I have done; and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might.

14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

Get ready

 

[Bill]

Speaking of Babylon, Revelation 18:24 says: And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. By the way, the main and most greatest Prophet who was slain in Babylon was the Messiah-JESUS-Revelation 11:8.

Revelation 18:8-Therefore shall her plagues come in one Day(, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Revelation 18:18-19
18 And they cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that GREAT CITY (Revelation 17:18), wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea(sea is waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues), all that have connection with the Beast of sea and his idolater and satanic religion-Revelation 13:1- , a religious MONSTER having 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his 10 horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy).

Revelation 17:18 - The angel of the Lord said:
The woman which thou sawest is that GREAT CITY(Revelation 18:18-19), which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Revelation 17:12- The ten horns which thou sawest are 10 kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but (will) receive power as kings one hour(in the 1st half of the last week-Revelation 13:2) (together) with the (Gentilic MAN) Beast.(of sea).

That said, the USA is not Babylon. Babyln is no a mere individual nation, in fact the USA, it is only more one nation within the Babylon, and will be burned together Babylon as a whole, understand? 2Peter 3:7:

7 But the heavens(heavens? the 1st and 2nd heavens-the OT and NT) and the earth (the current Israel, the clay-Isaiah 64:8-, the dry land), which are now, by the same Word (Word of GOD) are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against this Day of Judgment (the Judgment Seat of Christ, in this seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium), and perdition of ungodly men.

Isaiah 33:10-14

10 Now will I rise, saith the Lord; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself.

11 Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you.

12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.

13 Hear, ye that are far off, what I have done; and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might.

14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

Get ready

Maybe we should let Revelation be fulfilled versus trying to interpret it

 

[Sue J Love]

May the love of Jesus be with us.

So i wanted to continue on some things few people are aware of, having to do with spiritual warfare.

Now manyknow what the scripture says about the spirits, i.e. Angels of God versus the darkness. But most do not know of its depth, and even my experience is limited.

The Lord brought me into what i refer to as heavy spiritual warfare back in 1979. At first, just getting my feet wet, the Lord kept me doing defensive fighting. Out of the body, spiritual warfare.
There are actually a few here that do this. But i am well aware of why they do not speak up, it is because of the unbelief and ridicual that people will post at them - even on this "Christian" websight.

(That in itself i find remarkable, the unbelief and ridicual that come here. You would think people claiming to have the Gifts of the Spirit would actually use those Gifts if there were questions. And the other thing, people should marvel at God's Greatness versus trying to find a direct link in scripture. Like i always ask them, what scripture verse did Peter use to know it was ok to walk on the water. At that time, Jesus had not as yet been revealed as the Messiah. You see the hypocrisy right. Lol)

In my spiritual work, you may find this crazy - i know i do. But there are people in the world who "WANT" to be the anti-christ. I have been involved with so many huge battles (yes, the Armor of God, Sword and Shield are all very real, not just a talking point.) It is rare to meet other humans in battle, and far more rare to meet others who have done this.

For myself, i am the most vocal person i know that openly talks about it. I will not reveal those here, like i said the unChristians come out of the woodwork.

I used to talk more here about my experiences. Maybe i will share some again.

So i talked a little about how the darkness affects us spiritually in spiritual warfare of a direct battle view. But there are other ways in which we become aware of the spiritual attacks . Like when Obama was voted in as President. Did you feel as if a great weight was set on your shoulders. How about the mass effect to the negative with 50 shades of grey. Or to the positive with the Passion of the Christ.

The negative ones come from powerful demons that can effect many people at once.

There is another type of spiritual warfare, the term for it that you hear sometimes, "A Sea Change". 911 was a sea change. Covid was a sea change. The Beast that comes out of the sea, as scripture states, is a sea change. Something so big it with change the way everyone thinks. The mark of the beast will be a sea change.

Remember heart, mind, spirit, strength.

God bless you, hope this all helps

Thank you, Bill, for reading and for responding and for sharing your thoughts on this subject.

 

[Sue J Love]

Speaking of Babylon, Revelation 18:24 says: And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. By the way, the main and most greatest Prophet who was slain in Babylon was the Messiah-JESUS-Revelation 11:8.

Revelation 18:8-Therefore shall her plagues come in one Day(, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Revelation 18:18-19
18 And they cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that GREAT CITY (Revelation 17:18), wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea(sea is waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues), all that have connection with the Beast of sea and his idolater and satanic religion-Revelation 13:1- , a religious MONSTER having 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his 10 horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy).

Revelation 17:18 - The angel of the Lord said:
The woman which thou sawest is that GREAT CITY(Revelation 18:18-19), which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Revelation 17:12- The ten horns which thou sawest are 10 kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but (will) receive power as kings one hour(in the 1st half of the last week-Revelation 13:2) (together) with the (Gentilic MAN) Beast.(of sea).

That said, the USA is not Babylon. Babyln is no a mere individual nation, in fact the USA, it is only more one nation within the Babylon, and will be burned together Babylon as a whole, understand? 2Peter 3:7:

7 But the heavens(heavens? the 1st and 2nd heavens-the OT and NT) and the earth (the current Israel, the clay-Isaiah 64:8-, the dry land), which are now, by the same Word (Word of GOD) are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against this Day of Judgment (the Judgment Seat of Christ, in this seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium), and perdition of ungodly men.

Isaiah 33:10-14

10 Now will I rise, saith the Lord; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself.

11 Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you.

12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.

13 Hear, ye that are far off, what I have done; and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might.

14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

Get ready

Oseas, thank you for reading and for responding and for sharing your thoughts on this subject.

 

[bowwow]

I'm about convinced that Islam is Babylon the Great.

 

[Rhema]

I'm about convinced that Islam is Babylon the Great.

And yet, the text clearly states that it is a city.

And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.​

(Revelation 14:8 KJV)

Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.​

(Revelation 18:10 KJV)

And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.​

(Revelation 18:21 KJV)

Maybe you can start a thread on your views.

Rhema

 

[bowwow]

And yet, the text clearly states that it is a city.

And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.​

(Revelation 14:8 KJV)

Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.​

(Revelation 18:10 KJV)

And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.​

(Revelation 18:21 KJV)

Maybe you can start a thread on your views.

Rhema

I will start one soon. The city is likely Mecca or Medina. But one could pose the argument that it's Jerusalem because of the Dome of the Rock.

 

[Bill]

And yet, the text clearly states that it is a city.

And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.​

(Revelation 14:8 KJV)

Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.​

(Revelation 18:10 KJV)

And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.​

(Revelation 18:21 KJV)

Maybe you can start a thread on your views.

Rhema

I wonder if people realize the United Nations building is in New York.

 

[Bill]

Maybe we should start a thred that the great city of Babylon is actually an ant colony

 

[Rhema]

Maybe we should start a thred that the great city of Babylon is actually an ant colony

(The author meant Rome, Bill.)

 

[Rockerduck]

Revelation is a Prophetic dream and vision. If you have never had a prophetic dream, the Book of Revelation is hard to interpret, but if you have had a prophetic vision or dream, the Book the Revelation is easier to interpret. I, like Bill, will be ridiculed if I told you what Revelation is actually saying, unless we are on the same spiritual level, that most are not on.

 

[Bill]

(The author meant Rome, Bill.)

Really. Lol i still think it was an ant colony

 

[Bill]

(The author meant Rome, Bill.)

You are way to serious bro, i thought you would laugh

 

[Bill]

You're an arrogant ass - whole.

You do know you just labled him as a Christian. A fool for Christ

 

[Bill]

Revelation is a Prophetic dream and vision. If you have never had a prophetic dream, the Book of Revelation is hard to interpret, but if you have had a prophetic vision or dream, the Book the Revelation is easier to interpret. I, like Bill, will be ridiculed if I told you what Revelation is actually saying, unless we are on the same spiritual level, that most are not on.

Nice to meet a fellow Christian

 

[Bill]

Revelation is a Prophetic dream and vision. If you have never had a prophetic dream, the Book of Revelation is hard to interpret, but if you have had a prophetic vision or dream, the Book the Revelation is easier to interpret. I, like Bill, will be ridiculed if I told you what Revelation is actually saying, unless we are on the same spiritual level, that most are not on.

I love being ridiculed here.

It is funny, but sad at the same time. You could tell them everything the Holy Spirit reveals to you, and they still doubt. Kindof reminds me of the Israelites that came out of Egypt, even after seeing all those insane miracles. They still made a golden calf.

I really hate to say this, but i think you will understand me. Thier golden calf is thier unending need for proof versus trusting in God from thier hearts.

IT is because of this "need" of "where in the scripture is that", that i always ask, what passage of the scripture did Peter go to. To know it was ok to step out of the boat? Remember, Jesus was not revealed as yet to be the Messiah

 

[Rhema]

You are way to serious bro, i thought you would laugh

I am ridiculed and belittled quite often for the fact that Revelation is not in our canon (cf. Church of the East).

To know it was ok to step out of the boat? Remember, Jesus was not revealed as yet to be the Messiah

Maybe this is why I'm too serious.

And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.​

(Matthew 14:28-29 KJV)

While the event of Peter stepping out on the water is recorded in chapter 14, and Jesus was "revealed as the Messiah" in Chapter 16, the text doesn't say when the Father revealed this to Peter.

And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.​

(Matthew 16:16-17 KJV)

Rhema