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There is something called "Faith ", which some haven't gotten yet, much less understand!
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Dear Brother,
Appreciate your responding to my post to Brother PloughBoy, but it was unnecessary. I was only trying to correct behavior by this Brother that is troubling.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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yes sir, i do try to "Provoke" with a lot of intensity. that might seem over the top. I will try with the grace of God to correct my evil ways. But pray for me that i will open my mouth with boldness in the fashion he wants me to be. And please forgive me of my "Metaphor" of "hyperbole" of the use of "Shock and Awe" to "provoke' and "exalt" in a more and excellent way unto "agape' and to good works, but to my fault of stumbling into certain patterns of the flesh i sometime enter into such as today as it would seems, And if you find anymore errors of my ways that i have strayed into it's path, Would you please list it in my part, as a classification as a "Bad Hair Day". For you know some days just do not go right. And for me, I have a lot of days like that. And this day is not over with
And would you please remember the 70x7 rule! For i need all the grace i can get! For the Holy Spirit is also a Reminder too!King James Version
"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:"
(Eph 6).
19And on my behalf, that utterance may be given unto me in opening my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel, 20for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. fearlessly.
For you to, know it is not people we are attacking. But most christians, think we are attacking them! but it is not them. But the invisble that cannot be seen by the eyes of men. "lean not upon your own understanding but trust in the Lord with all your mind and heart and strenght". Many say they understand but they still walk in darkness. they have No idea what Spiritual warfare is. They claim they do but they observe things in the flesh and walk by feelings instead of the "SPIRIT"! And not really understand the Power of The WORD OF GOD! and How it cuts and separates! Many take the WORD of God like it is a form of Human conversation, or in the form of setting down and talking like a human counselor of this world but using biblical techniques and biblical words. God's workmans deal with DEMONS and Devils" that has latched on to "christians' thought patterns and non-christians bodies. We are looking beyond the person. Our enemy is not people, people hear our words but our words are not pointed to people. and as we attack the enemy, the enemy whispers in the ears of the ones we are trying to set free! "who he think he is talking to me like that, to me, like he is the only one that knows God," all of the sudden that christian gets angry at me, not realizing it is that demon in him! The christian start huffing and puffing. He or she thinks they are angry with me. it is that demon rising in you! LOL
They been believing those lies all these years not knowing some still have little demons in them or riding on their shoulders whispering in their thoughts.
And if you try to tell them they blow a head
gasket!
Ok time to stop now! You christian are a trip! but i love you because you don't know!!!!
God trained me good! It takes a "GOD" to love y'aLL" and God said: I will teach you how to love one another!
It was book years ago, if i can remember entitle: "They Shoot Their own"
and i wrote a book "She Slays the Ones Sent to Her"
I will do my best to Honor God in a way that is pleasing to Him. if it is time for me to go! I was ready yesterday!
I didn't choose none of this! He chose me! i am not trying to do nothing great for God! He is doing something Great for me in the coming world to be! and i don't know why, but on that day in his word he said he will tell us, what it is all about. And i can wait until that day, when i hear it from His mouth and not a man's.
thanks for listening to a mess up creature like me! and you don't have to believe none of this. it is not important.
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it does matter what you think of me, or call me. not one bit. the agape still flows in me. THE BIBLE EXPLICITLY states two types of people in this world, those who have faith are the Children of God and those who have not faith are the Children of the Evil one" and I will wear you Crown of dis honor as a badge of honor even on that faithful day! And God knows all intents of The Heart of the words that come out of our hearts. For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. even the very flavor that flows from our hearts. And God knows I have never wanted anything to do with the work of Ministeries in His Kindom, by no means. only thing i ask for, let me be true,
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Sure, noted! But, I think there are several of us that are concerned about these same issues that , to me, the troubling behavior stems from an apparent lack of Faith, which is foundational to a Christian's understanding and acceptance of that crutial Faith.
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This topic of free will is broad and deep with a myriad of implications. Every person alive is made in the image of God. That image includes free will. It would appear that love is the only legitimate binder and motivator for any spirit in God's image. Unfortunately we are stuck with free will having motivations of our own. Accepting our own will as something less than God's would appear the correct approach here. Therefore ABIDING FAITH of full reliance is both the course and example laid down by Jesus Christ as well as having faith in Him is salvation. He is in fact the atonement for the condition. What do you think?
Do you still think my question ( are you sure you want free will is off topic? )
Do you still think my question ( are you sure you want free will is off topic? )
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I started this thread, and I made no such comment. All input is valued. (unless we have to put someone down)
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and here i am with a lack of faith. and the no crutial faith. and i thought faith was a gift from God and not earn. and lack of faith means no"Holy Spirit" in me.. You are saying implicitly that it is not The HOLY SPIRIT of GOD but the SPIRIT of a Devil. in me. It has to be either one. So you are calling the "HOLY SPIRIT of God in me. a evil Spirit. English SYntax is saying this, only thing you have to do is let a linguistics major look at it. And you do know words and how to use them. So this is what you are saying. Ok I never called you a devil, I am guilty of using "hyperbole" to provoke into holiness' in which is somewhat backed up by the "Orignal copied Text" but not a mere "translation or paraphrase bible' in which I am guilty. But never called a person with the Spirit of The Living GOD in them a devil; or the Spirit in them a demon spirit. The Holy Spirit will not allowed me to do such a thing. It is impossible for the Holy Spirit to deny His own self. It cannot be done. There is only One Holy Spirit of God. And you label me and THe Spirit that is in me a demon by yours words. and no one said nothing. There is no excuse for this. and you all know words and you don t need a dictionary and you do know what "implicitly means" so don't act like you don't.
I have nothing more to say to any of you. and you cannot dress this up, "lack of faith" "crutial Faith" Faith is a gift and is measure out by GOD! Not by a man!
I shake the very Dust that clings! and will watch the "Apostasy" take on it's full form, and watch and observed as the leaven spreads . and the itching ears appears as He grows near.
I bid you not God speed. that i might not be partaker of you sins! that is in the bible if you do not know.
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That is... of course up to you. But I would ask why something one person said, would cause you not to speak to anyone else?
But I guess if we have no free will, then it must be God's will for you not to talk to any of us.
Is God pushing your buttons? Or are you allowing someone else to control your actions?
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in context concerning the matter. remember somethings you cannot separate from the whole context somethings you can.
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I am not sure I understand any of the complaint here. In my view this; the character and nature of this angst is a very excellent example of the problems associated with free will and why having The Mind of Christ is a prerequisite to Peace of which He Jesus is The Prince of.
And BTW this is a very intriguing thread. This can go on and on. Our point of view and the ground we stand on and the responsibilities they produce is an endless topic that only Faith has an answer for. It is a beautiful thing when anyone restrains their fee will for a higher order. I would extend an invitation to explore the writings and website of Oswald Chambers ( Our utmost for His Highest ) a daily exploration of the positional aspects of faith and by extension morality.
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Dear Brother,yes sir, i do try to "Provoke" with a lot of intensity. that might seem over the top. I will try with the grace of God to correct my evil ways. But pray for me that i will open my mouth with boldness in the fashion he wants me to be. And please forgive me of my "Metaphor" of "hyperbole" of the use of "Shock and Awe" to "provoke' and "exalt" in a more and excellent way unto "agape' and to good works, but to my fault of stumbling into certain patterns of the flesh i sometime enter into such as today as it would seems, And if you find anymore errors of my ways that i have strayed into it's path, Would you please list it in my part, as a classification as a "Bad Hair Day". For you know some days just do not go right. And for me, I have a lot of days like that. And this day is not over with
King James Version
"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:"
(Eph 6).
19And on my behalf, that utterance may be given unto me in opening my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel, 20for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. fearlessly.
For you to, know it is not people we are attacking. But most christians, think we are attacking them! but it is not them. But the invisble that cannot be seen by the eyes of men. "lean not upon your own understanding but trust in the Lord with all your mind and heart and strenght". Many say they understand but they still walk in darkness. they have No idea what Spiritual warfare is. They claim they do but they observe things in the flesh and walk by feelings instead of the "SPIRIT"! And not really understand the Power of The WORD OF GOD! and How it cuts and separates! Many take the WORD of God like it is a form of Human conversation, or in the form of setting down and talking like a human counselor of this world but using biblical techniques and biblical words. God's workmans deal with DEMONS and Devils" that has latched on to "christians' thought patterns and non-christians bodies. We are looking beyond the person. Our enemy is not people, people hear our words but our words are not pointed to people. and as we attack the enemy, the enemy whispers in the ears of the ones we are trying to set free! "who he think he is talking to me like that, to me, like he is the only one that knows God," all of the sudden that christian gets angry at me, not realizing it is that demon in him! The christian start huffing and puffing. He or she thinks they are angry with me. it is that demon rising in you! LOL
They been believing those lies all these years not knowing some still have little demons in them or riding on their shoulders whispering in their thoughts.
And if you try to tell them they blow a head
gasket!
Ok time to stop now! You christian are a trip! but i love you because you don't know!!!!
God trained me good! It takes a "GOD" to love y'aLL" and God said: I will teach you how to love one another!
It was book years ago, if i can remember entitle: "They Shoot Their own"
and i wrote a book "She Slays the Ones Sent to Her"
I will do my best to Honor God in a way that is pleasing to Him. if it is time for me to go! I was ready yesterday!
I didn't choose none of this! He chose me! i am not trying to do nothing great for God! He is doing something Great for me in the coming world to be! and i don't know why, but on that day in his word he said he will tell us, what it is all about. And i can wait until that day, when i hear it from His mouth and not a man's.
thanks for listening to a mess up creature like me! and you don't have to believe none of this. it is not important.
If you need some time to contemplate how one can be bold without being snide in how you direct your responses to others, please let me know and I'll accommodate you with as much time as you need.
I hope you will understand that I do this as a Moderator, and with that being said, I will say it again, you've been warned.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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God is one but He is three, the Trinity will continue to be discussed until we step in heaven, two words come to mind here, finite and infinite.
How can we even think we could fully understand, the father, mother, child examples gives a fair example, but it still just touches the surface of our understanding.
Who Can Comprehend the Wisdom of God?
God’s first question to Job,
Job 38:4
Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding.
Job 38:6-7
Who laid its cornerstone when the morning stars sang together and all the heavenly beings shouted for joy?
Job 38:8
Who shut in the sea with doors when it burst out from the womb.
Job 39:26-27
Is it by your wisdom that the hawk soars, and spreads its wings toward the south? Is it at your command that the eagle mounts up and makes its nest on high?
Job 42:3 Job's reply...
I have uttered what I did not understand, things too wonderful to me, which I did not know.
How can we know in this life, we will never understand in this life, we will never comprehend, God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit until we are in heaven with the Lord God Almighty.
How can we even think we could fully understand, the father, mother, child examples gives a fair example, but it still just touches the surface of our understanding.
Who Can Comprehend the Wisdom of God?
God’s first question to Job,
Job 38:4
Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding.
Job 38:6-7
Who laid its cornerstone when the morning stars sang together and all the heavenly beings shouted for joy?
Job 38:8
Who shut in the sea with doors when it burst out from the womb.
Job 39:26-27
Is it by your wisdom that the hawk soars, and spreads its wings toward the south? Is it at your command that the eagle mounts up and makes its nest on high?
Job 42:3 Job's reply...
I have uttered what I did not understand, things too wonderful to me, which I did not know.
How can we know in this life, we will never understand in this life, we will never comprehend, God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit until we are in heaven with the Lord God Almighty.
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This considered by most people would bring a cloak of humility with the exploration and that justly. But here is a question worth considering ( Humility can a person rest in it and under what conditions ) I believe the answer is in His Word.
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Well said brother.
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I except your band from site, I am a rude person for sure, and most of the time ungodly, and asking for forgiveness from all that I have greatly harmed by the evils words that has been printed by my hands. No need to warn me, I will not harm you anymore, I will remove my self from this site. With no animosity what's so ever. Good bye, no need to reply.
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Sorry to hear that.
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Dear PloughBoy,
I haven't banned you yet brother, and the warning was so it won't happen. I would rather you did not leave, because even in the extremes that you seem to take at times (as shown above), they have a measure of truthfulness to them. My desire only was that you would temper them with the knowledge that you have to share. Whether you stay or go is entirely up to you at this point. Though I do hope that you do stay. The occasional "tongue out"
doesn't bother me in the least. Just temper the biting words that are personal, and not uplifting is my concern. Especially to those receiving them, and for you as well.If this is the last we speak, then fair you well on the path God sets before you to walk.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Hi PB,
Pick yourself up man, we are more than conquerors. As Nick says you are not banned, I know you can be a bit of a John the Baptist brother, I also know you mean well, but we have to accept we are all different, some people can take things on the chin, others cannot my friend. Some are on anti depressants, some things could just tip the balance. We just gotta ask ourselves, WWJD, WWJS.
Get your honey eaten my friend, chomp on them locusts, dust yourself down and come back as a loyal soldier for Christ.
Are we not all part of one body PB, we sure are, speak again soon brother.
Bless you
