Girlfriend who doesnt believe in the Bible

[Giggles4God]

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

(skip to) 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

^^What of these verses? If the Bible is the inspired Word of God and these verses are TRUE...then wouldn't that mean that believing in the Word (the Bible) would also be needed to believe in God?

That is how I see it. You can not believe in God and not His Word! Maybe not everyone could read or even now some can't read, but they know the Word! There are Christians in prison because of their faith right now. They don't have their Bibles, but they have what they HID in their hearts from the Word. The Bible says the Word of God is sharp...like a two edged sword, breaking through the marrow and bone...etc. Let me find that verse.

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (this verse makes me remember the idea of opening my Bible and seeing it breathe!)

I would say that everyone needs to understand and believe the Word of God the best they can. I believe that without it we are only using half of what God gave us. Don't underestimate the Word. Even Jesus used it to defeat the devil! It isn't so much about reading it, but believing in it! I could believe in it if I heard it. It would be great to learn Hebrew so I could read it in the original text.

Pray for her. Show her in how you live what believing the Bible does to a person.

God Bless!

 

[Brother Paul]

^^What of these verses? If the Bible is the inspired Word of God and these verses are TRUE...then wouldn't that mean that believing in the Word (the Bible) would also be needed to believe in God?

That is how I see it. You can not believe in God and not His Word! Maybe not everyone could read or even now some can't read, but they know the Word! There are Christians in prison because of their faith right now. They don't have their Bibles, but they have what they HID in their hearts from the Word. The Bible says the Word of God is sharp...like a two edged sword, breaking through the marrow and bone...etc. Let me find that verse.

The Word with a capital W in John 1:1 refers to God the Word (the Son) not that which is written in ink or in stone. It does not say or mean we are not to believe the written word (which I certainly do) but its reference is to the Memra/Logos...God the Son (who Bereshith or In the beginning, was with God and IS God. Certainly no one would say the written word IS God).

For me, knowing many who are Spirit filled do not even know how to read, I would say this OP poster should model what it says, speak what it says, and encourage the girl to read a bit here and a bit there (or even read to her from Psalms or Song of Songs for a starter) until she gets hungry for it (the Spirit will do this). But I do agree one should believe the word but maybe before she ever got to that place the church she was attending taught her to doubt the written word (My local Episcopal Church USA actively does this...a church I left when I realized the Priest would say "I believe" when reciting the creed, and then in the study hall teach a gospel of doubt mixed with a social gospel of good works to get into heaven)...

Sometimes God brings people into our lives with whom He uses us to speak to them about these things. He should first pray for and about her and place her in God's hands. We are called to plant the seed of the word but sometimes (as workers in the vineyard) we need to break up the fallow ground first or do some serious de-weeding. She believes in God, she has accepted Christ, believed He died for her sins, and that He rose from the dead. This is the gospel...and the gospel is the power of God unto salvation.

So the Bible actually does not say "the Word of God is sharp...like a two edged sword" it says the word of God is sharp...like a two edged sword. But is also says "Whoever does not believe is condemned..." And that whoever believes, "Shall not perish but have eternal life"...

 

[Rev T.S.Perkins]

Been reading the post and and thought is I would throw this in:
what Im about to share I'm in no way proud of but it is part of what God has done for me !

Im married for the fourth time ! And I'm only 54 , each wife both believer and non I loved !
my dear wife Suzan took me on with all the garbage left behind by others and it has beens 17 yrs !
and because we both made a Commitment before God to each other I've found that I've grown to love her !
Love is not a ready foundation to build on but it is a good thing that builds on top of Commitment before God
, to know that my marriage is not based in a feeling as fleeting as Love can be has been freeing to say the least .! I find peace in this ! And God will honor commitment every time with blessings untold ! I encourage you to dig in .having done all to stand therefore stand .and watch the Hand of God almighty soften her heart as he did with mine ! ..Rev

 

[faithfulservant]

Although it worked with some of you, it doesn't have to work every time, cause it's not what God wants us to do, it may have worked because God had mercy, people don't change people, God changes people, respect God's words, do not be unequally yoked, it is as simple as that.

I agree. Paul teaches that people who are already married should stay together as their influence, and the power of God, may well work to lead the other unbelieving spouse to the Lord:

1 Cor. 7:16
16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
should remain as they are, if it's within them to abstain from sexual relations.

That being said, Paul also warns not too be closely linked with an unbeliever (as their influence may draw you away from the Lord as opposed to your influence leading them to Christ):

2 Cor. 6:14
14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

As it is, even for a marriage of two who love the Lord, Paul warns about "worldly troubles." Living with a spouse requires effort to keep each other focused on what God has called you to, in other words, and marriage brings up extraneous issues that will pose difficulties (raising kids, marital relations, etc, etc...)

1 Cor. 7:28
28 But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed woman marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that.

Ultimately, Paul teaches that one should only seek a spouse if the temptation to sexual immorality is too much for them. Otherwise, there are people who have been given the enabling grace and power to abstain completely to focus on the calling they have on them from the Lord:

1 Cor. 7:1
1 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

All this being said, if you are indeed one who feels they don't have this gift of abstinence/celibacy, it's is alright to get married, but use wisdom. Marriage is not an evangelistic outreach! :smiley: There are plenty of strong, believing Christian singles out there that need a spouse, too!

I hope these scriptures bless anyone who reads them.

 

[rawprawn]

Listen to her. Really listen. I do not think it matters what she believes at 18. I doubt she knows much about the Bible at all. What she needs to know is what Jesus taught. Jesus is enough. How to teach her what Jesus taught? Live it. Love her, that's enough. I believe if you live what Jesus taught, she will choose if she wants to be around you or not. Having said that I guess I am suggesting that you spend time learning, even memorizing the very words Jesus spoke. I cannot change another person, I can only change myself.

 

[farout]

This was started back in 2009, kind of far back. But any guy or gal who has someone they are serious about needs as much as in common as possible. This is true when it comes to belief in Chirst and the Bible. If ou don't have agreement don't date.

 

[Brighthouse]

Brother Ijoha from Norway,As you know, saying one believes does not make one a believer,saying and doing does.( James 1:22) Many, as i myself was guilty of such,call upon the Lord,but do not realize how accountable one is to become after we open the door to our Jesus.( rev 3:20) Wishing for Jesus to become our servant,but not wishing to follow his example.Calling upon him only when we need him,like some yellow pages looking for a phone number or something. There was a couple in our church the same way once brother.

She was a believer and he said he was,but did not wish to live for him. For if the Word of God is not true to someone, neither is Jesus,for Jesus is his Word!( psalm 138:2,John 1:1) The Pastor full of the Holy Spirit said" A bird and a fish can marry,but where will they live together?" You are the man,you know what is true, and what is not brother,now you come to real truth as well! ( Joshua 24:15) Choose this day whom you will serve.I know it is hard brother,there comes a time in all are lives when 2 cor 13:5 becomes a reality,whether we make it so or not.

It is a law of the Spirit as gal 6:7-10 is.I show you the word so you will know whom I have chosen to follow. I show you the word not to convict you,but to confirm to you what Jesus inside of you has already.You know brother,i just pray you do what you know is right both in the Lords eyes and for you to be able to mature more in him.For good brother,our faith results always in what we do,not just what we say,for if we believe truly,then we always will act upon this.It is how we tell on ourselves,as well as others. I came to my Red Sea about 24 years ago,meeting a beautiful Jewish woman,who had a child and wished to marry me,but I could not brother.

After 2 years of going with her,the Lord spoke unto me in an audible voice saying " mark this is you last chance,what will you do? I cried even brother,not in my nature,her family had lots of money,i would be set for life marring her! But life is not wrapped up upon this earth good brother. If is rather wrapped up in Jesus, and in his very word.Choose this day who you will serve,for indeed by your choice you shall bear the harvest from the seed you have sown.

This happens to us all brother,there comes a time when we really do have to decide who we truly believe in,and who we are truly willing to serve,ourselfs or the Lord? ( matt 6:24) I would pray for the Lord to change her heart brother,i would stay all day or all night in prayer and wrestle with the Lord! ( Genesis 32:24-32) I would not let my Jesus go! Nor should you brother! You will know what to do if you look to do what God himself wishes for you to do.Depend upon him!! Not you! Blessing brother! May every comfort of Jesus rest upon you dear brother!!( 2 cor 1:4-8!!)