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Victor_Christ

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How long have you waited?
There was a red moon over the pacific on the 25th of August.
There is no mention of the Christ in the Torah (Old Testament).
In fact a second Christ would prove Israel wrong about the first Christ, wouldn't it?
Since the only reason judaism exists is because they did not believe in the first Christ and crucified him.
Jesus was not the son of a jewish carpenter.
Joseph was only his foster father.
Imagine, the Prodigal Son was probably too smart to be a carpenter.
I'm sure Jesus and Joseph argued about that a lot.
I bet Jesus said "But I don't want to be a carpenter!" quite a lot in his early life.

If love of money is the root of all evil, why do we allow money in our society?
 
The old testament mentions Elija.
Israel is still waiting for him.
Had they believed in the first Christ they would no longer be waiting.
 
Victor_Christ said:
Jesus was not the son of a jewish carpenter.
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The word son is more broadly defined than that. The apostle Paul addressed Timothy as "my dear son" though they were not biologically related (see 2 Tim 1:2)

If love of money is the root of all evil, why do we allow money in our society?
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How can you pose as intelligent and ask such a question? Do you not understand that love of money is greed?

Spirit Led Ed (SLE)
 
Victor_Christ said:
The old testament mentions Elija.
Israel is still waiting for him.
Had they believed in the first Christ they would no longer be waiting.
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Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.


If you study Jewish history and culture they most certainly believed in a coming Messiah. They were generally split between 2 camps one expecting a conquering Messiah and the other smaller (but smarter:shade:) group expected the suffering Messiah.
Isa 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Isa 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
Isa 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

In fact Jesus Christ was prophesied in almost every area of Old Testament scripture from Genesis :
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
and on. Note that it was the seed of the woman who would bruise the serpent's head as Christ was Son of God but born of a human (to provide the fleshly body He needed to pay the price for our sin).
So Christ was clearly prophesied and expected of many, but I do agree that many did not have eyes to see this.
 
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