How Do I Put on the Armor of God?

[Rhema]

So, im not yet certain what type of denominational legalism you are selling, but, its definitely not a friend of the Grace of God or the Cross of Christ.

One might say that we are not yet certain what type of denominational theology you are selling, but it's definitely not a friend of the Gospel According to Mark.

Rhema

 

[Bill]

According to Jesus it is, but, according to you, there will be another post denying it.
Till then.....

Jesus said..>"my words are spirit and life".
That's John 6.

So, im not sure why you have an issue with God being A Spirit and Jesus's Words being Spirit and Jesus the Word, pre-incarnate, as the same, .....but, i'll let you think about that.

He didn't say " Just spirit " , as you said " spirit and life " there is a difference

 

[Bill]

Nonsense.

Listen carefully.
The Gift of Salvation, that is God as Christ on the Cross, offering you SALVATiON, makes no requirement of you....except that you BELIEVE.
This is why you have this...>"faith is counted as righteousness".....and "justification BY faith, without works"
God does not offer deals, whereby if you promise to be good then God will allow you to be saved, as long as you promise to be good

So, im not yet certain what type of denominational legalism you are selling, but, its definitely not a friend of the Grace of God or the Cross of Christ.

If i have to do nothing, then why do i need faith.. and in your own words, it requires you to believe and have faith .

Belief and faith are the same as accepting God. And God recieves you as His own.

I can not see why there needs to be such a fuss over simple understanding . Only that i say it, so it must be wrong.

When anyone recieves the Baptism of Water , an exchange is made . The one being Baptized accepts God and God also accepts you into His family.

 

[Bethel]

One might say that we are not yet certain what type of denominational theology you are selling, but it's definitely not a friend of the Gospel According to Mark.

Rhema

Pauline Theology.
Something that is a mystery to you, and will continue to be.

 

[Bethel]

I am sorry Bethel, the indirect article ("A") does not exist in Koine Greek.

Rhema

Here is the thing.
Im not some spiritual pretender who tries to correct the bible with the K-Grk.
I leave that to fakir's who need attention on forums like this one.
Know any?
I think you do.


Listen carefully...... The reason a real bible makes the distinction regarding God being "A" Spirit, vs, a fake bible that says God is spirit, but not "A" Spirit, is because the word of God is going to always make the distinction between the Unholy Spirit and the Holy Spirit.
Now, this does not matter to you, mr "im a greek translator" , as you have proven by your own words.
But it does matter to the Legit students of the word .

So, do you want to talk more about water water water water and koine greek?
You might as well.
As what else can you do?

 

[Bethel]

He didn't say " Just spirit " , as you said " spirit and life " there is a difference

Right "Spirit" and "life".

You denied the Spirit part.
Did you want to do it again?

 

[Bethel]

When anyone recieves the Baptism of Water , an exchange is made . The one being Baptized accepts God and God also accepts you into His family.

Listen.
Why does God accept a person, into His SPIRITUAL family?
Is it because the city water supply makes you worthy?

You need to figure this out.
How?
Start by trying to understand what God is doing for you on the Cross.
See, once you understand this, you'll stop preaching your gospel of works and water.

 

[Br. Bear]

Please be much more careful about how you reply

Much is lacking

Please take note and do not post scathing remarks against Members

Read this post with eyes and register with brain.

You are being watched and rudeness will not be tolerated at TalkJesus

Post in Peace or do not post

 

[Bethel]

Read with eyes and register with brain.

I always do.

 

[Bethel]

From what I know, they teach that the physical act of Baptism washes away original sin.

Thanks,
Rhema

Yes, that is what they teach.
This error comes from Jerome who originally mistranslated John 3, as "born AGAIN by water".......instead of "born of water".

So, that is why Catholics are taught to believe that the new birth is created by water.

 

[Bill]

Listen.
Why does God accept a person, into His SPIRITUAL family?
Is it because the city water supply makes you worthy?

You need to figure this out.
How?
Start by trying to understand what God is doing for you on the Cross.
See, once you understand this, you'll stop preaching your gospel of works and water.

I think there is some confusion on things. People are too easily hung up on the word " works " .

Faith ... technically is an action . And this is also true with Belief and Love .

So if we go the route of faith without works, its foolishness. It is impossible to have faith that is stagnant and be a Christian.

Paul states, faith without love is like a gong clanging in the wind.

Faith requires our action to believe in God.

When you accept Jesus as Lord, the action has already taken place.

I have said this many times, >>> the term works , isnt something you or i do, it is the movement of Jesus within us .

 

[Bethel]

I

So if we go the route of faith without works, its foolishness.

Legalism, is the false religion of the self righteous.
The self righteous has no real faith in Christ, .. they instead have faith in their self effort which is shown by their inability to talk about the Cross or the Blood of Jesus.
Yet they can talk endlessly about works and water and works and water and works and water.
How do you discover this person, this "christian"?
They will teach "water and works" in place of the Grace of God, and argue that without works God does not accept you or keep you.

Paul defines this person, if they are born again (and not just water baptized and religious)...........Paul defines this person as "bewitched"..."fallen from Grace"... and "In the Flesh".
This person, has no use for the GIFT of Salvation, and can only think of Christianity as self effort to try to stay saved.

 

[Rhema]

Pauline Theology.
Something that is a mystery to you, and will continue to be.

No sir. I understand it. I just don't believe it.

Rhema

Is Paul your messiah?

 

[Rhema]

Im not some spiritual pretender who tries to correct the bible with the K-Grk.

One cannot "correct" a text written in its original language. (Though one can correct copyist errors.)
But one CAN correct mistranslations and misinterpretations created by those who cannot read the original language.
You seem confused by the difference.
And whether you like it or not, the NT was published in K-Grk.
One would think a committed believer would be excited to learn the language in order to bypass translation errors.

So if you're not a spiritual pretender, what kind of pretender are you? (... to add in concepts that cannot be found within the original language?)

Listen carefully......

Why? You have no standing, having shown not the slightest interest in or ability to read the actual text of the New Testament.

For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.​

(Galatians 6:3 KJV)​

I leave that to fakir's who need attention on forums like this one.
Know any?
I think you do.

(Well.. you shouldn't speak about yourself that way.)
.

But it does matter to the Legit students of the word .

Legit students of the word learn the language in which it is written.

As what else can you do?

Well I will admit I can't seem to find that ignore button.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

This error comes from Jerome who originally mistranslated John 3, as "born AGAIN by water".......instead of "born of water".

So this verse is NOT speaking about those who were re-born ?

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.​

(John 1:13 KJV)​

They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God.​

(John 1:13 NLT)​

Rhema

 

[Br. Bear]

Proverbs 18:4 The words of a man's mouth are as deep waters, and the wellspring of wisdom as a flowing brook.

 

[Bethel]

No sir. I understand it. I just don't believe it.

Rhema

Is Paul your messiah?

You will.
and you'll believe this also, before all is said and done. Philippians 2:10-11

 

[Bethel]

Legit students of the word learn the language in which it is written.

Rhema

People that are led by the Spirit of God realize that God is all about foreknowledge.
And, in God's foreknowledge He understood that ENGLISH would become the universal language and Koine Greek, would become irrelevant.
So, that's what happened.

And before you continue to parade about as a greek scholar, let me remind you that there are over 30 extant Koine Greek Texts, and not just one.
Also, its a false game to pretend to be an authority above the bible.
Real Christians don't play this game, Rhema.

 

[Bethel]

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.​

(John 1:13 KJV)​

Are you asking a question or posting a theology?

So, Jesus said.....you must be born again, as the first birth is FLESH, a body, that was born from a Mother.
To be born again, is a 2nd Birth, that is not physical. Its Spiritual.

 

[Br. Bear]

@Bethel

Greetings,

This manner of communication is not acceptable here at TalkJesus...

And before you continue to parade about as a greek scholar, let me remind you that there are over 30 extant Koine Greek Texts, and not just one.
Also, its a false game to pretend to be an authority above the bible.
Real Christians don't play this game, Rhema.

I suggest you owe Rhema an apology

Please be much more careful how you interact with other members


Bless you ....><>