How to get into heaven?

[KingJ]

If someone had to ask you what they need to do to get into heaven, what would you say?

Jesus said the following:

Matt 19:16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” 17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.” 18 “Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself. 20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?” 21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” 25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” 26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” 27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?” 28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

Jesus's statement above is summarized in Matt 16:24 'Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me'
Then in the OT we read that God will not despise the following persons, Psalm 51:17 My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.

IE, To get into heaven, we need to repent of our sins and follow God's commandments. Repentance needs to be 100% sincere and we need to actively test our faith by examining ourselves to be in Christ 2 Cor 13:5. IE To not have other gods before Him. IE To be showing the fruits of the Spirit.

After being a Christian and studying the bible now for almost twenty five years, I would propose that the line to the unsaved should be as simple as ''repent of your sins''. The difference between people in heaven and hell is that those in heaven will be repentant sinners and those in hell will be unrepentant sinners.

As Jesus says in Luke 5:32 'I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'

 

[Hekuran]

I might say that Christian hope is in resurrection, rather than going to heaven. It makes a lot of sense to people and opens up interesting conversations.

For people not used to Christian speak "repent of your sins" has two words that need explanation.

My simplest possible answer might be: "Jesus is Lord. Follow him".

 

[lentz]

Broad is the way that leads to destruction…. Such as works for salvation
Narrow is the way that leads to eternal life….Jesus is the straight gate

 

[Beetow]

~
Getting to Heaven is only the beginning-- staying there without eventually doing
something stupid enough to get one's self kicked out is a whole other mountain to
climb.

● Matt 5:20 . . I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the
Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of
heaven.

Well the thing is: the piety of those two groups was superb and they were greatly
respected in the Israel of that day as primo role models. But their piety was cultural
rather than intrinsic; in other words; their righteousness was produced by training
rather than by nature. In point of fact, they were by nature quite deplorable. (Matt
23:13-33)

● John 4:23 . .Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers
will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the
Father seeks.

In other words: God prefers to associate with folks who are righteous by nature
rather than only righteous by compliance with the structure of a religious system:
not even when it's His own God-given system. Compare Isa 1:10-16 wherein God
rejected His people's religious practices, even though their covenant with Him
required those practices, because at the core of their being-- i.e. in the marrow of
their bones --the people were unacceptable.

● Matt 6:33 . . But seek first . . . . His righteousness,

The righteousness of God is humanly impossible to attain because He's set the bar
too high.

● Rom 3:23 . . For all . . . come short of the glory of God.

In other words: God has made His own personal sinless perfection the standard by
which everyone is evaluated.

Well; the thing is: Christ's crucifixion and resurrection satisfies justice for people's
sins, and gives them a rating of innocence that they could never in a million years
attain on their own. (Isa 53:6, Isa 53:11, & Rom.4:25) But if the plan of salvation
were wrapped at that point, the people's lives would continue their fail to measure
up to God's personal standards and thus be unacceptable for citizenship within His
borders.

● Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Neither can
you do good who are accustomed to doing evil. (cf. Rom 7:12-23)

But now with justice satisfied and out of the way by means of Christ's crucifixion and
resurrection; the supreme being is at liberty to become extremely benevolent with
a remarkable act of God that when fully completed will equip folks with a personal
sinless perfection comparable to His own.

● 2Pet 1:3-4 . . His divine power has given us everything we need for life and
godliness through our knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and
goodness. Through these He has given us His very great and precious promises, so
that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the
corruption in the world caused by evil desires. (cf. Ezek 36:24-27)

I think it can be agreed without debating that the divine nature is a whole lots
better to work with than the human nature in matters pertaining to sinless
perfection.
_

 

[BlessedBeMyRock]

By obeying the gospel of Jesus Christ. Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

 

[Beetow]

~
The wages of sin is death. (Rom 6:23)

There are two ways to undergo death for one's sins.

A very disagreeable way is the lake of fire depicted by Rev 20:11-15. That's not a
good option because for one thing: it's a mode of death akin to a foundry worker
falling into a kettle of molten iron, and for another: nobody walks away alive from
it.

A second way to undergo death for one's sins is via the cross because for one thing:
it's very safe, and for another: everyone walks away from it with immortality.

In some mysterious way that has thus far eluded my sense of fair play; God
accounts folks unified with Christ as joint principals with him in his crucifixion.

● Rom 6:3 . . Don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus
were baptized into his death?

● Rom 6:8 . . We died with Christ,

● Gal 2:20 . . I am crucified with Christ

FAQ: How would someone go about becoming a joint principal with Christ in his
crucifixion? In other words: how do I go about getting myself nailed up there with
him?

REPLY: RSVP

Find a quiet moment. Cover your face with your hands for a sense of privacy and
simply speak with God-- aloud or under your breath --saying, in your own words:

"God, I'm a sinner with a lot to answer for. I would like to be accounted crucified
with your son if I may. Thank You."

Now; the added advantage is that everyone unified with Christ in his crucifixion are
also unified with him in his resurrection. The thing is: he came back with
immortality. (Rom 6:8-11, 1Tim 6:14-15, and Rev 1:18) So then: the bodies we
have now will eventually become too weak to continue, but these are not all there is.
Everyone unified with Christ is on track for an upgrade. (Phil 3:20-21, 2Cor 5:1-4)
_

 

[A servant of the Kings]

Kindly understand that on that day you will know that Jesus is in you, and that you are in Him, and that He is in Father:

Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.


Kindly understand that God is light, and in Him there is no darkness:

4We write these things so that our joy may be complete. 5And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.


Since Jesus is in Our Father Who is in Heaven, and since our Father is light, we cannot keep darkness, and unite with He who is light. Because in Him there is no darkness.

7Therefore do not be partakers with them. 8For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light,

What we Love we are attracted to, and will become united with. It is why Jesus says:

36“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” 37Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and great commandment.

That is why: 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.


Kindly do not doubt Jesus He says the light must shine in the lamps, read the parable of the ten virgins, do not doubt Him do not be one of the foolish ones. Jesus does not warn people to scare us, He warns us not to walk astray. Because He loves us.

He our beloved savior does not ask us to sacrifice what is good, He asks us to loose what is evil, to repent to the remission of sin.

3And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as Christ is pure.

 

[Beetow]

~
● John 3:14-17 . . As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the
Son of Man be lifted up; that whoever believes may in him have eternal life. For God so
loved the world, that He gave His only begotten son, that whoever believes in him
should not perish, but have eternal life.

The incident to which Christ referred is located at Num 21:5-9.

Long story short: Moses' people became weary of eating manna all the time at every
meal. But instead of courteously, and diplomatically, petitioning their divine benefactor
for a different diet, they became indignant and confrontational; angrily demanding better
accommodations.

In response to their insolence, and their ingratitude for His providence; God sent a
swarm of deadly poisonous vipers among them; which began striking people; and every
strike was 100% fatal, no exceptions.

After a number of people died, the rest came to their senses and begged Moses to
intercede. In reply; The Lord instructed Moses to fashion a replica of the vipers and
hoist it up on a pole in plain view so that everyone dying from venom could look to it for
relief.

The key issue here is that the replica was the only God-given remedy for the people's
bites-- not sacrifices and offerings, not tithing, not church attendance, not scapulars, not
confession, not holy days of obligation, not the Sabbath, not rosaries, not weeping, not
the golden rule, not charity, not Bible study and/or Sunday school, not self denial, not
vows of poverty, not the Ten Commandments, nor even one's ideology of choice, i.e. it
wouldn't have mattered whether somebody was Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Buddhist, Catholic,
Protestant, Baha'i, Atheist, Agnostic, Pagan, or whatever-- the replica was it; nothing
else would suffice to save their lives.

As an allegory, the replica speaks of Christ's crucifixion for the sins of the world as the
only God-given rescue from the wrath of God; and when people accept it, then
according to John 3:14-17 and John 5:24, they qualify for a transfer from death into life.
Those who reject his crucifixion as the only God-given rescue from the sum of all fears,
are already on the docket to face it.

● John 3:18 . .Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not
believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's
one and only son.

FAQ: How does one go about looking to Jesus like those folks back then looked to that
replica?

REPLY: I recommend RSVP.

Find a quiet place; anywhere will do. Cover you face with your hands for a sense of
connection, and tell God-- under your breath or out loud if you like --that you have never
yet measured up to His standards and you're pretty sure you never will. Tell Him you
would like to take advantage of His son's death to protect yourself from retribution; and
thank Him for His time.
_

 

[Beetow]

~
Heaven? Not Interested!

It's an alien world with which I am totally unfamiliar; and when I leave here, I will
be leaving behind everything near and dear to me, e.g. photos, mementos,
souvenirs, collections, sights and sounds, mountains, creeks, rivers and forests,
clothing and equipment, tools, landmarks, entertainment, hobbies, my spouse, BFF,
and my aging Ford Ranger pick-up truck, etc, etc.

The culture shock tsunami of leaving all that I know & love and going to a foreign
land where I know & love nothing at all, is not my idea of a good time. Personally; I
dread the thought of having to start all over again from scratch.

The one thing I do look forward to in Heaven is the possibility of a library where
everything that can be known about the cosmos is stored. Carl Sagan would've
loved a source of information like that because he went to his grave with a lot of
unanswered questions. But now they'll never be answered because Carl was, at
best, an agnostic, and at worst, an atheist.
_

 

[Sukkaface]

~
Heaven? Not Interested!

It's an alien world with which I am totally unfamiliar; and when I leave here, I will
be leaving behind everything near and dear to me, e.g. photos, mementos,
souvenirs, collections, sights and sounds, mountains, creeks, rivers and forests,
clothing and equipment, tools, landmarks, entertainment, hobbies, my spouse, BFF,
and my aging Ford Ranger pick-up truck, etc, etc.

The culture shock tsunami of leaving all that I know & love and going to a foreign
land where I know & love nothing at all, is not my idea of a good time. Personally; I
dread the thought of having to start all over again from scratch.

The one thing I do look forward to in Heaven is the possibility of a library where
everything that can be known about the cosmos is stored. Carl Sagan would've
loved a source of information like that because he went to his grave with a lot of
unanswered questions. But now they'll never be answered because Carl was, at
best, an agnostic, and at worst, an atheist.
_

What if heaven was just a place to rest and stop learning things to know. Like your so at peace so everything you know turns into pure joy and fulfillment and you like being left alone from all the questions and concerns and your now mainly focused on swimming in the ocean or running to escape a lion playing rough with you or fighting while your flying because you and another person in heaven are fighting for a strawberry plant and you can fight like Bruce Lee.
In heaven your gonna become yourself as a baby again as if you were re-living your life but your whole knowledge of why you left earth will be who you are while watching the baby. So basically your the morning sun while still being in heaven with God and God is the growth in your whole existence and you are the minds measuring tape in your existence.
That measuring tape is in heaven and that growth is imaginary and your baby self is the hangover blackout of your whole minds wise existence

 

[Servaline]

If someone had to ask you what they need to do to get into heaven, what would you say?

Jesus said the following:

Matt 19:16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” 17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.” 18 “Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself. 20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?” 21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” 25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” 26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” 27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?” 28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

Jesus's statement above is summarized in Matt 16:24 'Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me'
Then in the OT we read that God will not despise the following persons, Psalm 51:17 My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.

IE, To get into heaven, we need to repent of our sins and follow God's commandments. Repentance needs to be 100% sincere and we need to actively test our faith by examining ourselves to be in Christ 2 Cor 13:5. IE To not have other gods before Him. IE To be showing the fruits of the Spirit.

After being a Christian and studying the bible now for almost twenty five years, I would propose that the line to the unsaved should be as simple as ''repent of your sins''. The difference between people in heaven and hell is that those in heaven will be repentant sinners and those in hell will be unrepentant sinners.

As Jesus says in Luke 5:32 'I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'

Over and over again, follow the commandments. The question is which commandments does one not want to keep? A true follower of The Way will keep all 10 commandments and not look for loopholes.

John. 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Mt 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

1 Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

 

[Beetow]

~
● Heb 5:4-6 . . Christ did not take upon himself the glory of becoming a high priest.
But God said to him; "You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek." (cf. Ps
110:4)

Melchizedek was God's high priest in Abraham's day. (Gen 14:18-20, Heb 5:10)

Mel's authority held sway in his region quite a few years prior to the covenant that
Moses' people agreed upon with God per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and
Deuteronomy. (a.k.a. Moses' law) That's very important because Moses' law isn't
retroactive. (Deut 5:2-4 & Gal 3:17)

In other words: folks unified with Melchizedek were at liberty to associate with God
apart from Moses' ways; and seeing as how God's son is Christianity's Melchizedek,
then folks unified with Jesus are at liberty to associate with God apart from Moses'
ways too.

I'm talking about a really, really huge advantage here because a significant number
of curses target folks unified with Moses (Lev 26:3-38, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut
28:1-69) whereas none of those curses target folks unified with Christ.
_

 

[A servant of the Kings]

While it is certainly correct that Jesus is The High Priest, someone must hear Him, and pass the word on to those that cannot hear Him. Or His words will not reach them. That is why it is written:

10 He who descended is the very One who ascended above all the heavens, in order to fill all things. 11 And it was He who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,…

All that is needed is already in the bible if you know what it means, if you do not know the chosen ladies, if you do not know the seven lamps before the throne, the sevens spirits of God united in the One Holy Spirit, if you do not know the eye that is the lamp of the body, then how can there be light?

I have myself seen Him on His throne in the third heaven, there He is on the middle throne, there is one to His right and one to His left. Jesus has spoken to me many times, explaining His teachings. And I have been asked to pass the knowledge on.

But it seems most people refuse to obey, and admit that He has the authority to appoint prophets. That is a catastrophe, not for God, or for us prophets, but for those who refuse to obey.

Cause even though the Holy Spirit will lead someone who is willing, and who is filled with it, it is not the same thing as hearing from God receiving explanations from God.

However the most important thing for understanding is the lightnings, the lightnings has arrived, the new Jerusalem has arrived.

And you are all welcome to walk towards them, the way there, the way to Him that is pure, is to clean, and to receive His help to clean, He is the one Who knows what is clean.

The way to Him that is light, is to loose all darkness.

The oil for the lamps must be there, or you are not allowed, kindly read the parable of the ten virgins.

If you do not want to hear from prophets about how to collect it, and do not hear from God in person about how to do it yourselves, but instead insult and abuse prophets, and try to go on without any word from The Shepherd, The High Priest in command, then how will you succeed?

I will tell you it is possible, cause God can make all things possible, and the Holy Spirit will lead all who know it. But it is very hard without word from God, His words are great treasure of heaven. In heaven what are words of God on earth, is light in the body of Christ. So Jesus spoke words on earth, when He walked the earth, and became the light of the earth.

~
● Heb 5:4-6 . . Christ did not take upon himself the glory of becoming a high priest.
But God said to him; "You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek." (cf. Ps
110:4)

Melchizedek was God's high priest in Abraham's day. (Gen 14:18-20, Heb 5:10)

Mel's authority held sway in his region quite a few years prior to the covenant that
Moses' people agreed upon with God per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and
Deuteronomy. (a.k.a. Moses' law) That's very important because Moses' law isn't
retroactive. (Deut 5:2-4 & Gal 3:17)

In other words: folks unified with Melchizedek were at liberty to associate with God
apart from Moses' ways; and seeing as how God's son is Christianity's Melchizedek,
then folks unified with Jesus are at liberty to associate with God apart from Moses'
ways too.

I'm talking about a really, really huge advantage here because a significant number
of curses target folks unified with Moses (Lev 26:3-38, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut
28:1-69) whereas none of those curses target folks unified with Christ.
_

 

[lentz]

While it is certainly correct that Jesus is The High Priest, someone must hear Him, and pass the word on to those that cannot hear Him. Or His words will not reach them. That is why it is written:

10 He who descended is the very One who ascended above all the heavens, in order to fill all things. 11 And it was He who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,…

All that is needed is already in the bible if you know what it means, if you do not know the chosen ladies, if you do not know the seven lamps before the throne, the sevens spirits of God united in the One Holy Spirit, if you do not know the eye that is the lamp of the body, then how can there be light?

I have myself seen Him on His throne in the third heaven, there He is on the middle throne, there is one to His right and one to His left. Jesus has spoken to me many times, explaining His teachings. And I have been asked to pass the knowledge on.

But it seems most people refuse to obey, and admit that He has the authority to appoint prophets. That is a catastrophe, not for God, or for us prophets, but for those who refuse to obey.

Cause even though the Holy Spirit will lead someone who is willing, and who is filled with it, it is not the same thing as hearing from God receiving explanations from God.

However the most important thing for understanding is the lightnings, the lightnings has arrived, the new Jerusalem has arrived.

And you are all welcome to walk towards them, the way there, the way to Him that is pure, is to clean, and to receive His help to clean, He is the one Who knows what is clean.

The way to Him that is light, is to loose all darkness.

The oil for the lamps must be there, or you are not allowed, kindly read the parable of the ten virgins.

If you do not want to hear from prophets about how to collect it, and do not hear from God in person about how to do it yourselves, but instead insult and abuse prophets, and try to go on without any word from The Shepherd, The High Priest in command, then how will you succeed?

I will tell you it is possible, cause God can make all things possible, and the Holy Spirit will lead all who know it. But it is very hard without word from God, His words are great treasure of heaven. In heaven what are words of God on earth, is light in the body of Christ. So Jesus spoke words on earth, when He walked the earth, and became the light of the earth.

There are no prophets today,only evangelists,pastors and teachers.
And I must add, you never went into heaven or saw anything.
But the world is full of fakes like you. And one day will answer for it.

 

[Beetow]

~
FAQ: What if I'm naturally dishonest; you know: born that way?

REPLY: You mean like Ps 58:3, which says:

"The wicked are estranged from the womb; these who speak lies go astray from
birth."

Well; that's pretty serious.

● Rev 21:8 . . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.

OBJECTION: I'm not a degenerate liar. I'm basically honest and lie only on
occasion.

REPLY: But you're not 100% honest, i.e. you're a person of marginal integrity
whom God cannot rely upon to always tell Him the truth.

Liars don't need a rule book, instead; they need a miracle to liberate them from
themselves so they don't end up on the wrong side of things. In other words: they
need an overhaul from top to bottom and inside and out, i.e. a full and complete
renovation to get rid of that lying streak they were born with; to wit:

● John 3:7 . . You should not be surprised at my saying that you must be born
again.

It's my guess that most natural-born liars would agree that it's to their advantage
to start over again from scratch.

● Ps 15:1-2 . Lord: who may dwell in Your sanctuary? Who may live on Your holy
hill? . . . He who speaks the truth from his heart.
_

 

[lentz]

~
Heaven? Not Interested!

It's an alien world with which I am totally unfamiliar; and when I leave here, I will
be leaving behind everything near and dear to me, e.g. photos, mementos,
souvenirs, collections, sights and sounds, mountains, creeks, rivers and forests,
clothing and equipment, tools, landmarks, entertainment, hobbies, my spouse, BFF,
and my aging Ford Ranger pick-up truck, etc, etc.

The culture shock tsunami of leaving all that I know & love and going to a foreign
land where I know & love nothing at all, is not my idea of a good time. Personally; I
dread the thought of having to start all over again from scratch.

The one thing I do look forward to in Heaven is the possibility of a library where
everything that can be known about the cosmos is stored. Carl Sagan would've
loved a source of information like that because he went to his grave with a lot of
unanswered questions. But now they'll never be answered because Carl was, at
best, an agnostic, and at worst, an atheist.
_

You’re not going to be happy with the alternative

 

[A servant of the Kings]

Well Lentz that is sad, you are doing just what I warned you about. It is Jesus Himself, who will appoint prophets, teachers and so on, not you, just like it says in the quote above. You do not get to decide at what time on earth He appoints us, whom He appoint, or why. So your attempts are futile.

But the really sad thing is that it is hurting you greatly, and so many others, the complete disobedience when it comes to Jesus power to appoint.

For me it is hard to comprehend, even before I was baptized and had chosen Jesus as my shepherd, before He had chosen me. I still understood that the "eye" was important. I did not understand where the eye was, or exactly what Jesus meant. But I did understand that I needed help to understand what it was, and that it was of the outmost importance. I understood that from this bible quote :

21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 22The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. 23But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!…

If you understand what the eye is, if God has helped to heal it, so that your eye is good, and if you see yourself, then you do not need a prophet for that purpose. In fact Jesus may then choose to appoint you too a prophet.

But if you are clueless, you definitely need a clue. You need help to understand the bible if you dont. If you do, you need no help, and should go help others.

 

[lentz]

Okay Mr. Prophet,what new prophecy has been given to you that is not already recorded in scripture?
You claim to be a prophet,prove it.

 

[A servant of the Kings]

No I have not been instructed to come with new prophecies. Father has sometimes warned me to leave certain places in advance before there was danger, (my son and I have been persecuted for some time now). Here is a definition for you…

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“...an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God.”


At one time He instructed me to warn a christian man I knew, He told be to write him that he was on his way to certain death, and must turn around, so I wrote that message to him the same evening. Later he told me he had been drinking beer, flirting and kissing a woman being interested in her flesh, (he had not done it for years, but did that certain evening)

So in those kinds of ways I have been told news.

When it come to the bible I have been told that Jesus made all teachings complete, there is nothing new to teach.

But hopefuls must understand what is taught there in the bible.

It is no good for example to tare out the eye from the body of Christ, spit at it, and then expect to see.

If that is what you are trying to do, forget about it.

I am also instructed to help people that show a true interest, who wants to know. People who wants to abuse me, bully me, or kill me, I am instructed to leave for God to punish, like it is described in the parable of the wedding feast.

Which one are you?

 

[lentz]

No I have not been instructed to come with new prophecies. Father has sometimes warned me to leave certain places in advance before there was danger, (my son and I have been persecuted for some time now). Here is a definition for you…

.
“...an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God.”


At one time He instructed me to warn a christian man I knew, He told be to write him that he was on his way to certain death, and must turn around, so I wrote that message to him the same evening. Later he told me he had been drinking beer, flirting and kissing a woman being interested in her flesh, (he had not done it for years, but did that certain evening)

So in those kinds of ways I have been told news.

When it come to the bible I have been told that Jesus made all teachings complete, there is nothing new to teach.

But hopefuls must understand what is taught there in the bible.

It is no good for example to tare out the eye from the body of Christ, spit at it, and then expect to see.

If that is what you are trying to do, forget about it.

I am also instructed to help people that show a true interest, who wants to know. People who wants to abuse me, bully me, or kill me, I am instructed to leave for God to punish, like it is described in the parable of the wedding feast.

Which one are you?