I Think most True Christians really do not understand what happen In The Fall in Genesis. and as far as their conversation, goes, ADAM died.

[PloughBoy]

Yes , you are right and many Christians do not realize that the world was made for us and everything that exist both visible and invisible to make us into a finish creature like his Son. The universe and Heaven was made only to finish us into this other creature. Everything God made on earth and this universe is temporal even "time" it self is temporal. We will live in eternity when God destroy everything time no more exist for us. That is why God has "commanded us to set our minds into the eternal" and not the things on earth. Earth is earthy. These things were hidden in the OT but reveal in the NT. The NT unveiled the OT. That was hidden there. So many Christians are still living earthy minded. " The demonic" invasion of "lust" has invaded their being, and they love the taste of lust. How hard it is for the "heroin" addict to drop his drugs, So it is with the Christian, to refuse the demonic invasion of "lust" that entice their senses, that they open the door, inviting "demonic"host of all kinds of " lust" and Christians become invaded with " lies, deceit, excuses, schemes, not knowing they have been taken over by a host, and begin to wonder, how come they cannot stop their debauchery.

Prayers do not work, they seem to not be able to read their Bibles any more or gain insight into what they have read.
They notices other church people they have surround themselves with are living sinful lives as well. So this the norm, just ask for forgiveness and as long as you believe everything is all right. The Pastor is doing it, so it must be alright, he told me just last month how good my legs look. And the trustee wanted to take me out to breakfast next Sunday, since my husband will not go to church with me. I go to church every Sunday and have fellowship with the church. Pastor and the trustee, and make sure every Wednesday right when I leave from work I go straight to the Church for Bible class and help them lock up after class and the Janitor is always there to walk me out to my car because it is kinda late and dark. He's a nice guy.

Some body is getting mad at me right now. Get mad I don't care, I going to tell the truth! Then when she gets home, her husband ask her. To put on something on nice! Her response: "I'm tired". And that demon that came home with her, from the church house, where a whole bunch of them just sits there in hundle waiting on the right victim, they know which one is going to show up, Because they know how to read, so they know who's on the membership roll. And they know their names and what they like and what they like to hear and their street address. So when she says, I'm tired, that demon that follow her home, whispers in his ear, she wasn't tired when she was down there smiling at "Pastor SlipMore" at "GiveMore" Missionary Baptist Church. He sitting there acting like he is looking at the "Television" but in real time, That demonic is talking to him in full color, panoramic view. Now see, wives, this is why the Bible says this: " give no place for the Devil". Bring your Tail, home, that is where your "church" is! That is where your head is! Sure is not going to be sweet. But it can be Bless! " For stolen waters are sweet". But your home is bless, whether or not you can see it or not!
Give not the demons and devils a place in your home! And stay away from those "Demon carriers" females and males" and if your got some of those demons in you, start starving them out of you deny yourself and they will flee out of you! Christians start fasting and praying and stay away from those demonic infested churches until you can get clean enough to see better. Then you might not go back! The Greatest weapon The Devil has for a true Christian is to make them think they cannot not be invaded by Demons, why do you think, you like lust, lust is more than a feeling it is a Demon! And if you got lust in you what do you think that is! That Demon will open that door into your soul wide and call for more to come into you, You better listen, and stay out of that pastor office, if you don't those demons will have you on the floor with your legs wide open if you have not been there already! Fast and pray! Why do you think "God said: don't even eat with them" how you battle with the devil, you keep God's Word! Stay away from these people! You will become infected, "A Face Mask" is not going to help you! And hailing Three Mary's is not going to say you, The Bible says: "Flee". And in this sense it means "RUN" in Capital letter, since you don't know Greek or to lazy to look it up! You Run! I don't care, if you have to leave your coat, like "Joesph" ! And you do not look back, like "Lots" wife! And and do not come back! You are running for your soul! You are not running so will not get caught, you are running for your very soul!
And you believe those other Christians That are, saying it ain't that bad, and God is love! You go right ahead on! You go right ahead on, do your own thing, do it your way. If you think! It is not that bad, and you cannot be Demon Posses, how come you cannot Stop! And you know, that God said: people who do these things are going to Hell! Ok. Now God, cannot lie. Or God do not lie. You choose the term you like!

Stay tune: For Part 2 of The Family Hour of " It's your life"

PS. I hope I can sleep, For I have scared My Own self. And that is for real. I think this is what you call "Holy Fear"!
I hope my writing did not become over written by my iPad.

 

[Brother-Paul]

you are right "a leopard can't , but God can" "can a Blackman turn himself White"? Now what did you say God could do?

Nothing is impossible for God brother, nothing!

 

[Brother-Paul]

hehehe! Brother -Paul, you do know how to play Chess? Your move don't worry, Hekuran is pondering his next move.

I do actually LOL, you better Check - Mate!

 

[Brother-Paul]

It is strange how different people perceive things in different ways. To see the fall without the influence of God, who is all seeing, all knowing and everywhere at the same time, is to miss the point. God created everything. The world , the garden, the trees in the garden, Adam and Eve and Satan (in the guise of the serpent), but before he created any of these things, he wrote my name in the book of life. So before he created the world and everything in it, he knew that my name had to be written in the book of life, and why. If he knew why, then he had to have known it was going to happen, in fact it must have been part of his plan. We live in Satan's world, we have been educated in Satan's world. We have been educated to see things from Satan's point of view. For instance we see death as bad, and yet scripture informs us " the day of our death is better than the day of our birth" When we come to the Lord our minds are renewed. Our eyes are being opened, I haven't written much but I pray it causes us to delve deeper.

Well put Trevor,

This world is upside down brother and only one person can put it the right way up.

 

[PloughBoy]

"I Think most True Christians really do not understand what happen In The Fall in Genesis. and as far as their conversation, goes, ADAM died."


Because of the The fall of Adam and Eve in the garden. Mankind grows old, "Women have to put on make-up" to deceive, Men have to lie, to appear what they are not. Mankind have to pay, to obtain "light" that they may see. They have to work for heat to keep from being cold. And now they have work to keep cool from the heat. They have to labor hard to keep afloat. they have to learn how to swim to keep from drowning. Christians do not understand what happen in the Fall , in that "Garden of Eden",
Adam and Eve went from "Happiness" and fell into a Garden of Pain full of lies. And The Devil told them what was the ways of "Happiness" but it was only a field of lies, Told women they are Queens but in actuality they are "slaves". and told men they are "Rulers" but in actuality they are "Peasants". for they lost that position in the fall. For Satan is the Ruler of this world, He is the Prince of the Airways. Son of God had to come down here on earth to tell us "The Truth" for we are in "bondage" slaves unto "SIn". we are captives and sold unto sin. God told the woman "Obey your husband" the woman by her actions has said: "I will Not"! but she honors me with her lips and words full of lies! And pain in child bearing is not natural, it is a curse from GOD upon the woman. Her husband to rule over her, is a curse from GOD. Who told her it is not a curse? Does she still have pain? Does she still have to obey her husband? Does she still grow old and die?

And to the man GOD said:

“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”

Is the ground still cursed? and the devil is calling it "Climate Control"
Is the man still finding trouble in the work force? When he thought all was going well, where did these weeds come from.
Does his body go back to the dust?

Now why did these things happen unto "The Man"

What did GOD say? I know what the preacher said: Now what did God Say?

(Genesis 3: 1).).
"17To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’"
That is why you got it hard. Do not fool yourself "God has Not change"! and you still is going have it hard until you die or Jesus come back 1st"

And woman, the reason you cannot stand that husband of yours is Because He is "Your" "king and lord" and you do not like it! For it is a curse from God and no body like curses especially coming from God. We live in a "field of Lies"!


New American Standard Bible
"To the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you." The word "desire" do not mean pleasure< It means a undesireable, it is a "Curse". You will not like him telling you want to do, and how to do it, So you will tell a lot of lies and deceiving him! and cutting him off because he will not obey you!

Sin has enter the world and we have been cast into the "Garden of Lies' I do not care how good looking she is and how sweet her voice sound. She is a sinner! I do not care how much money he makes or what kind of car he drives or how much money he has in the Bank! He is a sinner in a "Garden of Lies'!

Jesus did not lift the curse or do it away He saved us from "The Penalty of the curse"! Which is death! You still grow old, you have pain, you have sorrows, and diseases,, animals suffers, trees and plant life suffers, storms are still raging, all creation is still suffering from the "sin" of "Adam and Eve". There was no suffering of any kind before the fall in the Garden of Eve. Women you did not need any make-up, nail polish, Beauty Parlor. or personal trainers. eye shadows, lip stick. man needed no weights rooms, You did not need to run or jog. you got neither cold or hot. You needed no body deodorant! Women you did not have any cellulite, there was no jealousy no polution in the air. you could sleep out under the stars naked, with a "Siberian Tiger" as your pillow".

Most christians do not understand what happen in the fall. and it is right before their eyes. even the time of the "Dinosaurs" written right there in the "Book"!

A lot of people "Love the Field of Lies and Deceptions" "For we do live in a dark and fallen world" and it took The Coming of "Jesus" to show some of us, that. "They who sat in "Darkness saw a Great Like' From the fall of "Adam and Eve" the world has set and walked in Darkness". "AND Many still do not comprehend that" and when Jesus comes back to "Earth" The darkness will be "Darker than it has ever been"!

(Amos 5).
18Woe to you who long
for the day of the Lord!
Why do you long for the day of the Lord?
That day will be darkness, not light.
19It will be as though a man fled from a lion
only to meet a bear,
as though he entered his house
and rested his hand on the wall
only to have a snake bite him.
20Will not the day of the Lord be darkness, not light—
pitch-dark, without a ray of brightness?