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If A Robber broke into Jesus house what would he do or What would A “ChristLike” a Christian would do

There is nothing wrong with “Holy Scripture “ but The Understanding Of “The Translation” can provide a host of Translated problems generated by men and There private Hermeneutics”

Paul Did not lie :eyes:

The Old Testament is about men that did not know, they may have “Prophesied” but Still The Vail was There.

And The Vail Did not Come off, not until The Manifestation of The “New Covenant” written by A very Schooled Scholar who spoke about 7-8 different Languages and was An Expert concerning The Laws of GOD a Pharisees of Pharisees, and Chosen of GOD to write The Majority of The New Testament” writings and “Peter” was Not Chosen to take on the Task, but he did write 2 short letters to “Timothy” in which he had to use a “Ammanuensis” because he might did not know how to spell or Write.

So what does Apostle Paul has To say about this matter about “Righteousness”

Did He Lie? Or did he make it so clear, that a blind man could see?
4God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment.

5But if our righteousness commendeth the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who visiteth with wrath? (I speak after the manner of men.) 6God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world? 7But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner? 8and why not (as we are slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say), Let us do evil, that good may come? whose condemnation is just.

There is No One Righteous

(Psalm 14:1-7)



9What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we before laid to the charge both of Jews and Greeks, that they are all under sin;

10as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one;:eyes:

11There is none that understandeth, There is none that seeketh after God;

12They have all turned aside, they are together become unprofitable; There is none that doeth good, no, not, so much as one:

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all of them are a bunch of liars]:joy:

13Their throat is an open sepulchre; With their tongues they have used deceit: The poison of asps is under their lips:

Paul is not lying! But somebody is!:eyes:
You can't nullify scripture with scripture.
You were given scripture about good people so you can't keep saying all are evil.

So now you have to figure you were taught wrong about what Paul meant.

Let's look at what Paul said about no one righteous...

No One Is Righteous

Romans 3:9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:

“There is no one righteous, not even one;

11 there is no one who understands;

there is no one who seeks God.

12 All have turned away,

they have together become worthless;

there is no one who does good,

not even one.”

13 “Their throats are open graves;

their tongues practice deceit.”

“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”

14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”

15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;

16 ruin and misery mark their ways,

17 and the way of peace they do not know.”

18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

Paul is quoting Psalm14:1-3; 53:1-3; and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Ecclesiastes SAYS there is not a RIGHTEOUS man who does what is right and NEVER SINS. Ecclesiastes tells us that there ARE RIGHTEOUS men but none who NEVER sin. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinners just like the Gentiles. Nowhere in these passages or scriptures anywhere does it say none can believe on their own. In this same Ecclesiastes 7, Solomon tells us about wise men, righteous men, and about a man who pleases God. Solomon also tells us that he found one upright man among a thousand. The Bible tells us that there are people who want to do right.


You have to know that there are righteous people? The Bible says so. There just was no one so righteous that they were without any sin.
 
Many people do not understand the Fall or The labor to understand “The Preemptive work of GOD, their Time and energy is Place upon promoting their church, There denominations. Religious practices, arguments And Political affiliations, which are only the deterrence orchestrated by The Adversary. Then we also have our Flesh, and The Dazzlements of “The City called “Vainty Fair”.

Many Obstacles we all have.
Jesus can be your Teacher instead of these men you chose to read and believe.
 
Jesus can be your Teacher instead of these men you chose to read and believe.
You sure assume a lot, or do you have a gift of Clairvoyance?

Because I have no idea where you are getting information about so call “Theological or Some kind of Religious type teachers of have instructed me or The type Theological Institutions I have attended. And Understanding My Form of “Hermeneutics” to be able to Critique me in great of matter in a “Absolute” way in order to “Judge another man’s servant”
And so gifted you are in the fields Linguistics as seem to express yourself with no restraints.
But consider yourself “Theologically Sound” in “The Holy Scriptures” referring To The Orginal Copied Manuscript of The Very Words pertain To The Words GOD has Spoken. [not A translation]. But The Real Deal, per se “GOD” :pensive:
 
I never even ask you about; “Pelagius”. But I can sense a directed distain or a sense of animosity in your spirit.
And I fully understand.
You did mention Pelagius and you said, "You are “Pelagian” in thinking religiously."

You said it more than once.
For I am a “Well Read” person.

Berean Study Bible
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
The heart of a deceitful person is deceitful above all things.

THAT IS NOT ABOUT EVERYONE.

Not everyone is deceitful.

You were taught wrong about the scriptures.
New American Standard Bible
“The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?:pensive:

So The Flesh is very “Sensual”.

Like I have said. So many Avenues.

So I will take my Leave, so I will not cause so much of Unnecessary confusion contention and Strife for there other things also at “hand”.

Shalom
You should discuss the scriptures with me and not just try to run away after you say some rude and strange things.
 
You can't nullify scripture with scripture.
You were given scripture about good people so you can't keep saying all are evil.

So now you have to figure you were taught wrong about what Paul meant.

Let's look at what Paul said about no one righteous...

No One Is Righteous

Romans 3:9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:

“There is no one righteous, not even one;

11 there is no one who understands;

there is no one who seeks God.

12 All have turned away,

they have together become worthless;

there is no one who does good,

not even one.”

13 “Their throats are open graves;

their tongues practice deceit.”

“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”

14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”

15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;

16 ruin and misery mark their ways,

17 and the way of peace they do not know.”

18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

Paul is quoting Psalm14:1-3; 53:1-3; and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Ecclesiastes SAYS there is not a RIGHTEOUS man who does what is right and NEVER SINS. Ecclesiastes tells us that there ARE RIGHTEOUS men but none who NEVER sin. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinners just like the Gentiles. Nowhere in these passages or scriptures anywhere does it say none can believe on their own. In this same Ecclesiastes 7, Solomon tells us about wise men, righteous men, and about a man who pleases God. Solomon also tells us that he found one upright man among a thousand. The Bible tells us that there are people who want to do right.


You have to know that there are righteous people? The Bible says so. There just was no one so righteous that they were without any sin.
Honestly, I don’t think you are Qualified to teach anyone, from a grade school child concerning the English language to a new convert in order to learn how to read or how to understand any Translation concerning Bibical text of “Holy Scripture”. Now I could be wrong. But I don’t think you know the difference between a “paragraph and A Text”

I believe you are more of a “Deterrent” than anything. In which it is good too!
 
You sure assume a lot, or do you have a gift of Clairvoyance?
You sure are a false witness.
Because I have no idea where you are getting information about so call “Theological or Some kind of Religious type teachers of have instructed me or The type Theological Institutions I have attended.
You said you have the thoughts of Calvin.
And Understanding My Form of “Hermeneutics” to be able to Critique me in great of matter in a “Absolute” way in order to “Judge another man’s servant”
And so gifted you are in the fields Linguistics as seem to express yourself with no restraints.
You describe yourself.
But consider yourself “Theologically Sound” in “The Holy Scriptures” referring To The Orginal Copied Manuscript of The Very Words pertain To The Words GOD has Spoken. [not A translation]. But The Real Deal, per se “GOD” :pensive:
You think evil about me and you shouldn't, but you have to because your god Calvin told you all were only evil and wicked.
 
Honestly, I don’t think you are Qualified to teach anyone, from a grade school child concerning the English language to new convert in order to learn how to read or how to understand any Translation concerning Bibical text of “Holy Scripture”. Now I could be wrong. But I don’t think you know the difference between a “paragraph and A Text”

I believe you are more of a “Deterrent” than anything. It which it is good too!
You don't know God if you believe what you just said.

You think a lot about an education that you don't have but look to honor other men who do and try to put me down.

Luke 10:21 At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.

Here is another scripture for you:

James 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
 
You sure are a false witness.

You said you have the thoughts of Calvin.

You describe yourself.

You think evil about me and you shouldn't, but you have to because your god Calvin told you all were only evil and wicked.
If it is not harmful to you, may I ask how old are you, and what year were you “converted, ” meaning created in Christ Jesus, a Completely New Creature, and not that same creature that came out of our “mother’s womb”?

Just asking. About your Testimony.
 
You don't know God if you believe what you just said.

You think a lot about an education that you don't have but look to honor other men who do and try to put me down.

Luke 10:21 At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.

Here is another scripture for you:

James 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
I respect you, and I try to be as kind as I can, and I do enjoy our conversations even in some what religious or Theological confrontations, it makes us grow deeper, and Entwine us in a Unique way.and if I come off as an enemy,

Then we fall into a unique command:

“Love Your Enemy” :pensive: :love:

27“But I say to you who hear, loveyour enemies, do good to thosewho hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who areabusive to you. 29Whoever hitsyou on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takesaway your [r]cloak, do not withholdyour Luke 6 New American Standard Bibletunic from him either.

A hard pill to swallow.
 
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If it is not harmful to you, may I ask how old are you, and what year were you “converted, ” meaning created in Christ Jesus, a Completely New Creature, and not that same creature that came out of our “mother’s womb”?

Just asking. About your Testimony.
I have a powerful testimony. If I didn't love then I wouldn't care to share what Jesus revealed to me. I just want to help others to know God better. I want others to see how not to look to men to teach them, but how to make Jesus their Teacher.
 
I respect you, and I try to be as kind as I can, and I do enjoy our conversations even in some what religious or Theological confrontations, it makes us grow deeper, and Entwine us in a Unique way.and if I come off as an enemy,

Then we fall into a unique command:

“Love Your Enemy” :pensive: :love:

27“But I say to you who hear, loveyour enemies, do good to thosewho hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who areabusive to you. 29Whoever hitsyou on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takesaway your [r]cloak, do not withholdyour Luke 6 New American Standard Bibletunic from him either.

A hard pill to swallow.
Galatians 4:16 Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?
 
Dear @PloughBoy @God's Truth
Now we're drifting away from the topic are we not?

The assumption in the title of this thread is that what Jesus would do, and what a Christian would do.
The opening salvo maybe should have been what is a Christian, then move on from there and maybe even who is Jesus.

Now, since it did not go that way, and as interesting and disconcerting at the same time it is to watch the back and forth. It does nothing for furthering the topic at hand.
If you are so interested in trying to name/number each other. Maybe, a PM between you might provide you each the opportunity to do so to your hearts content and allow the open forum to topical subjects that could be interesting, if not beneficial to others to contemplate on.

Let me know if it will be necessary to close the thread for a bit, or I hope, you'll be able to reset yourselves back to the actual topic.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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Dear @PloughBoy @God's Truth
Now we're drifting away from the topic are we not?

The assumption in the title of this thread is that what Jesus would do, and what a Christian would do.
The opening salvo maybe should have been what is a Christian, then move on from there and maybe even who is Jesus.

Now, since it did not go that way, and as interesting and disconcerting at the same time it is to watch the back and forth. It does nothing for furthering the topic at hand.
If you are so interested in trying to name/number each other. Maybe, a PM between you might provide you each the opportunity to do so to your hearts content and allow the open forum to topical subjects that could be interesting, if not beneficial to others to contemplate on.

Let me know if it will be necessary to close the thread for a bit, or I hope, you'll be able to reset yourselves back to the actual topic.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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I think we are ok, we was, just sparring a little.

I think we are at peace. If “ God’sTruth” is in agreement. I do back down. No real harm I meant. “No wood no smoke”:pensive:
 
Dear @PloughBoy @God's Truth
Now we're drifting away from the topic are we not?

The assumption in the title of this thread is that what Jesus would do, and what a Christian would do.
The opening salvo maybe should have been what is a Christian, then move on from there and maybe even who is Jesus.

Now, since it did not go that way, and as interesting and disconcerting at the same time it is to watch the back and forth. It does nothing for furthering the topic at hand.
If you are so interested in trying to name/number each other. Maybe, a PM between you might provide you each the opportunity to do so to your hearts content and allow the open forum to topical subjects that could be interesting, if not beneficial to others to contemplate on.

Let me know if it will be necessary to close the thread for a bit, or I hope, you'll be able to reset yourselves back to the actual topic.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><
Why are you trying to stifle discussion?
This is ploughboy's thread and he could have easily told me that it was getting off track.
It is not off track to talk about whether or not people are only evil or good too.
It is hard to want to come to a place to interact with others when someone is going to unjustly reprimand you publicly.
 
No harm here. We are grown and I can handle it and prefer to discuss deeply like we are.
Dear God's Truth,
I'm glad you added this, because your post #36 can give me a complex that somehow you perceive me as a busy body and should mind my own business. Also, Brother @PloughBoy response in #35 assured me of the status/condition of your interaction as well.

Though to be honest, I would not use you two as examples on how to communicate civilly, some couples just enjoy the verbal jousting. Still, when he insinuated that you were his enemy, and that is what you fixated on. I believed it was time to step in with a few words. If there were any real concerns on you two being able to handle the back and forth, I would not have asked about closing the thread. I'd have just done it.

It is hard to want to come to a place to interact with others when someone is going to unjustly reprimand you publicly.
Maybe, if you were not so combative in how you reply, even when corrected by staff, reprimands might not be necessary.
Don't presume on my loving nature to not give you a public warning when necessary.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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