If sins are forgiven, how will Christians be judged?

[Johann]

We’ll be judged for what we’ve done in the name of the Lord, the principle is laid out in Luke 12:48 - “to whom much is given, much is required.” Modern equivalent is this quote from Spider Man: “With great power comes great responsibility.” This was illustrated in the parable of talents, the unprofitable servant will be cast out with no reward.

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Rom 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
Rom 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
Rom 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

So then it is clear that we will all give an account of ourselves, not of our brothers, to God. We judge one another too much, and without the proper authority or knowledge.

Matthew 12:36
Verse Concepts
But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.

Romans 14:12
Verse Concepts
So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God.

James 3:1
Verse Concepts
Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.

Proverbs 27:23
Verse Concepts
Know well the condition of your flocks,
And pay attention to your herds;

1 Corinthians 4:2
Verse Concepts
In this case, moreover, it is required of stewards that one be found trustworthy.

Luke 12:48
Verse Concepts
but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.

Revelation 20:12
Verse Concepts
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

Acts 17:30
Verse Concepts
Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,

Romans 3:19
Verse Concepts
Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;

Hebrews 10:25
Verse Concepts
not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.

Ezekiel 33:8
Verse Concepts
When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require from your hand.

Psalm 10:4
Verse Concepts
The wicked, in the haughtiness of his countenance, does not seek Him.
All his thoughts are, “There is no God.”

Daniel 6:2
Verse Concepts
and over them three commissioners (of whom Daniel was one), that these satraps might be accountable to them, and that the king might not suffer loss.

Psalm 10:13
Verse Concepts
Why has the wicked spurned God?
He has said to himself, “You will not require it.”

Ezekiel 3:20
Verse Concepts
Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he will die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand.

Ezekiel 33:6
Verse Concepts
But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman’s hand.’

Romans 2:12
Verse Concepts
For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law;

From Thematic Bible
Accountability » Accountability connected with stewardship
Accountability » Everyone giving account of themselves to God
Accountability » Accountability connected with stewardship
Matthew 12:36
Verse Concepts
But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.

Matthew 18:23
Verse Concepts
“For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves.

Matthew 23:34
Verse Concepts
“Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,

Matthew 25:19
Verse Concepts
“Now after a long time the master of those slaves *came and *settled accounts with them.

Luke 12:20
Verse Concepts
But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your soul is required of you; and now who will own what you have prepared?’

More verses: Luke 12:48 Luke 19:15 Romans 14:12 1 Peter 4:4-5
Accountability » Everyone giving account of themselves to God
Matthew 12:36-37
"But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

Romans 14:10-12
But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For it is written, "AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD." So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God.

Topics on Accountability
Age Of Accountability
Isaiah 7:15
Verse Concepts
He will eat curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good.

Related Topics
Encouraging One Another
Judgement Day
Judging Others Actions
Last Judgment
Responsibility
Responsibility, To God
Responsible To Warn
Settling Accounts
Stewardship
Warning Individuals
Accounting
2 more topics on Accountability

Source: 18 Bible verses about Accountability

Thanks for your contribution @Jonathan_Gale

Shalom
Johann

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Rom 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
Rom 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
Rom 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

So then it is clear that we will all give an account of ourselves, not of our brothers, to God. We judge one another too much, and without the proper authority or knowledge.

Matthew 12:36
Verse Concepts
But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.

Romans 14:12
Verse Concepts
So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God.

James 3:1
Verse Concepts
Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.

Proverbs 27:23
Verse Concepts
Know well the condition of your flocks,
And pay attention to your herds;

1 Corinthians 4:2
Verse Concepts
In this case, moreover, it is required of stewards that one be found trustworthy.

Luke 12:48
Verse Concepts
but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.

Revelation 20:12
Verse Concepts
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

Acts 17:30
Verse Concepts
Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,

Romans 3:19
Verse Concepts
Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;

Hebrews 10:25
Verse Concepts
not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.

Ezekiel 33:8
Verse Concepts
When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require from your hand.

Psalm 10:4
Verse Concepts
The wicked, in the haughtiness of his countenance, does not seek Him.
All his thoughts are, “There is no God.”

Daniel 6:2
Verse Concepts
and over them three commissioners (of whom Daniel was one), that these satraps might be accountable to them, and that the king might not suffer loss.

Psalm 10:13
Verse Concepts
Why has the wicked spurned God?
He has said to himself, “You will not require it.”

Ezekiel 3:20
Verse Concepts
Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he will die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand.

Ezekiel 33:6
Verse Concepts
But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman’s hand.’

Romans 2:12
Verse Concepts
For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law;

From Thematic Bible
Accountability » Accountability connected with stewardship
Accountability » Everyone giving account of themselves to God
Accountability » Accountability connected with stewardship
Matthew 12:36
Verse Concepts
But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.

Matthew 18:23
Verse Concepts
“For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves.

Matthew 23:34
Verse Concepts
“Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,

Matthew 25:19
Verse Concepts
“Now after a long time the master of those slaves *came and *settled accounts with them.

Luke 12:20
Verse Concepts
But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your soul is required of you; and now who will own what you have prepared?’

More verses: Luke 12:48 Luke 19:15 Romans 14:12 1 Peter 4:4-5
Accountability » Everyone giving account of themselves to God
Matthew 12:36-37
"But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

Romans 14:10-12
But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For it is written, "AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD." So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God.

Topics on Accountability
Age Of Accountability
Isaiah 7:15
Verse Concepts
He will eat curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good.

Related Topics
Encouraging One Another
Judgement Day
Judging Others Actions
Last Judgment
Responsibility
Responsibility, To God
Responsible To Warn
Settling Accounts
Stewardship
Warning Individuals
Accounting
2 more topics on Accountability

Source: 18 Bible verses about Accountability

Thanks for your contribution @Jonathan_Gale

Shalom
Johann

Thanks, but a bit of advice, try to post some constructive midrash, teaching of Scripture, instead of lazy copy-paste. These days different people reach different conclusions, even polar opposite conclusions after receiving the exact same information, especially when it comes to the holy word of God, A midrash of Lev. 18:22 (You shall not lie with a man as with a woman) could range from "a man shall not have anal sex with a male Canaanite temple prostitute" to "both man and woman shall absolutely not commit homosexuality", therefore the correct angle is more important than knowing and memorizing the text itself, and the only correct angle is reading the prophecy of Yeshua in every line of the OT, and reading the fulfillment of the OT in Yeshua in every line of the NT.

 

[Johann]

Thanks, but a bit of advice, try to post some constructive midrash, teaching of Scripture, instead of lazy copy-paste. These days different people reach different conclusions, even polar opposite conclusions after receiving the exact same information, especially when it comes to the holy word of God, A midrash of Lev. 18:22 (You shall not lie with a man as with a woman) could range from "a man shall not have anal sex with a male Canaanite temple prostitute" to "both man and woman shall absolutely not commit homosexuality", therefore the correct angle is more important than knowing and memorizing the text itself, and the only correct angle is reading the prophecy of Yeshua in every line of the OT, and reading the fulfillment of the OT in Yeshua in every line of the NT.

I am no Jewish rabbi and don't need to give the Pardes, Sod, Remez or Midrash plus the rabbinical commentaries @Jonathan_Gale

Really sorry you feel I am doing it "the lazy way of copy and pasting" but I'll stand by what I have posted.

Shalom
Johann.

 

[Johann]

Thanks, but a bit of advice, try to post some constructive midrash, teaching of Scripture, instead of lazy copy-paste. These days different people reach different conclusions, even polar opposite conclusions after receiving the exact same information, especially when it comes to the holy word of God, A midrash of Lev. 18:22 (You shall not lie with a man as with a woman) could range from "a man shall not have anal sex with a male Canaanite temple prostitute" to "both man and woman shall absolutely not commit homosexuality", therefore the correct angle is more important than knowing and memorizing the text itself, and the only correct angle is reading the prophecy of Yeshua in every line of the OT, and reading the fulfillment of the OT in Yeshua in every line of the NT.

Should you wish to give a lesson on biblical hermeneutics or inductive studies, feel free to do so on a new thread.

This thread..."If sins are forgiven, how will Christians be judged?"

And I posted accordingly.

Shalom
Johann

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Should you wish to give a lesson on biblical hermeneutics or inductive studies, feel free to do so on a new thread.

This thread..."If sins are forgiven, how will Christians be judged?"

And I posted accordingly.

Shalom
Johann

I understand, man, and I appreciate the scriptures you shared, but I just raised some concerns with no ill intention. People tend to go extreme in the western thinking, and on this topic it could go two nasty directions, either strict legalism that only past sins are forgiven, you sin again you go to hell; or “hyper grace”, that you can sin in whatever way you like with impunity. But the truth is in the middle, which is a relationship with our God and accountability for our acts.

 

[Johann]

I understand, man, and I appreciate the scriptures you shared, but I just raised some concerns with no ill intention. People tend to go extreme in the western thinking, and on this topic it could go two nasty directions, either strict legalism that only past sins are forgiven, you sin again you go to hell; or “hyper grace”, that you can sin in whatever way you like with impunity. But the truth is in the middle, which is a relationship with our God and accountability for our acts.

I agree with the aleithia/truth is "in the middle"
If people tend to go to extreme in Western thinking, should we read the scriptures with "Eastern lenses?"
If so, what sources would you propose?
Not being facetious
Shalom
Johann

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I agree with the aleithia/truth is "in the middle"
If people tend to go to extreme in Western thinking, should we read the scriptures with "Eastern lenses?"
If so, what sources would you propose?
Not being facetious
Shalom
Johann

Jewish messianic ministries, such as Torah to the Tribes or Beth Tikkun Ministries, both have apple podcasts. After all, Christianity originated from the middle east, its intellectual property was only stolen and perverted into a pagan religion, but now the word of God goes back to its roots and the true treasure is being revealed.

 

[Johann]

Jewish messianic ministries, such as Torah to the Tribes or Beth Tikkun Ministries, both have apple podcasts. After all, Christianity originated from the middle east, its intellectual property was only stolen and perverted into a pagan religion, but now the word of God goes back to its roots and the true treasure is being revealed.

Sorry @Jonathan_Gale, when it comes to "Messianics" I would prefer Dr. Michael Brown and One for Israel.

I had a quick read on Torah to the tribes or House/Beth Tikkun Ministries, and don't agree at all.

You'll be surprised to know that I am familiar with the Messianic teachings.
But like Hillel and Shammai, various "branches" and I don't need to stand on one foot for a rabbi to teach me friend.
Certainly not Rashi and Rambam.

Shalom
Johann

 

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Hello there,

I notice in one entry the question is asked, 'How do you know you are in Christ Jesus?' - to which my mind goes to 1 Corinthians 1:30-31:-

'But of Him are ye in Christ Jesus,
Who of God is made unto us wisdom,
and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
That, according as it is written,
He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.'
(1Cor. 1:30-31)

This was written to the Corinthian assembly, the reputation of which goes before it: Yet this assurance, 'but of Him are ye in Christ Jesus', is given to them. It is something God had done for them, and does for all believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. It is something we believe by faith.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Johann]

Hello there,

I notice in an entry by @B-A-C the question is asked, 'How do you know you are in Christ Jesus?' - to which my mind goes to 1 Corinthians 1:30-31:-

'But of Him are ye in Christ Jesus,
Who of God is made unto us wisdom,
and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
That, according as it is written,
He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.'
(1Cor. 1:30-31)

This was written to the Corinthian assembly, the reputation of which goes before it, but this assurance, 'but of Him are ye in Christ Jesus', is given to them. It is something God had done for them, and does for all believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. It is something we believe by faith.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Agree....

1:12 Sects or parties were being formed within the local church, each one claiming its distinctive leader. Some acknowledged preference for Paul, some for Apollos, some for Cephas (Peter). Some even claimed to belong to Christ, probably meaning that they alone belonged to Him, to the exclusion of others!

1:13 Paul's indignant rebuke of sectarianism is found in verses 13-17. To form such parties in the church was to deny the unity of the body of Christ. To follow human leaders was to slight the One who had been crucified for them. To take the name of a man was to forget that in baptism, they had acknowledged their allegiance to the Lord Jesus.

1:14 The rise of parties in Corinth made Paul thankful that he had baptized only a few in the assembly there. He mentions Crispus and Gaius as among those whom he had baptized.

1:15, 16 He would never want anyone to say that he had baptized in his own name. In other words, he was not trying to win converts to himself or to make a name for himself. His sole aim was to point men and women to the Lord Jesus Christ.
On further reflection Paul remembered that he had also baptized the household of Stephanas, but he could not think of any other.

1:17 He explains that Christ did not send him primarily to baptize, but to preach the gospel. This does not mean for a moment that Paul did not believe in baptism. He has already mentioned the names of some whom he did baptize. Rather, it means that his main business was not to baptize; he probably entrusted this work to others, perhaps to some of the Christians in the local church. This verse, however, does lend its testimony against any idea that baptism is essential to salvation. If that were true, then Paul would be saying here that he was thankful that he saved none of them except Crispus and Gaius! Such an idea is untenable.
In the latter part of verse 17, Paul is making an easy transition to the verses that follow. He did not preach the gospel by using wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect. He knew that if men were impressed by his oratory or rhetoric, then to that extent he had defeated himself in his efforts to set forth the true meaning of the cross of Christ.

It will help us to understand the section that follows if we remember that the Corinthians, being Greeks, were great lovers of human wisdom. They regarded their philosophers as national heroes. Some of this spirit had apparently crept into the assembly at Corinth. There were those who desired to make the gospel more acceptable to the intelligentsia. They did not feel that it had status among scholars, and so they wanted to intellectualize the message. This worship of intellectualism was apparently one of the issues that was causing the people to form parties around human leaders. Efforts to make the gospel more acceptable are completely misguided. There is a vast difference between God's wisdom and man's, and there is no use trying to reconcile them.
Paul now shows the folly of exalting men, and emphasizes that to do this is inconsistent with the true nature of the gospel (1:18-3:4). His first point is that the message of the cross is the opposite of all that men consider to be true wisdom (1:18-25).

1:18 The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. As Barnes so aptly stated:
The death on the cross was associated with the idea of all that is shameful and dishonorable; and to speak of salvation only by the sufferings and death of a crucified man was fitted to excite in their bosoms only unmingled scorn.
The Greeks were lovers of wisdom (the literal meaning of the word “philosophers”). But there was nothing in the gospel message to appeal to their pride of knowledge.

To those who are being saved, the gospel is the power of God. They hear the message, they accept it by faith, and the miracle of regeneration takes place in their lives. Notice the solemn fact in this verse that there are only two classes of people, those who perish and those who are saved. There is no in-between class. Men may love their human wisdom but only the gospel leads to salvation.

1:19 The fact that the gospel would be offensive to human wisdom was prophesied by Isaiah (Isa_29:14):
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”
S. Lewis Johnson in The Wycliffe Bible Commentary notes that in context these “words are God's denouncement of the policy of the ‘wise’ in Judah in seeking an alliance with Egypt when threatened by Sennacherib.” How true it is that God delights to accomplish His purposes in ways that seem foolish to men. How often He uses methods that the wise of this world would ridicule, yet they achieve the desired results with wonderful accuracy and efficiency. For example, man's wisdom assures him that he can earn or merit his own salvation. The gospel sets aside all man's efforts to save himself and presents Christ as the only way to God.

1:20 Paul next hurls out a defiant challenge: “Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age?” Did God consult them when He devised His plan of salvation? Could they ever have worked out such a plan of redemption if left to their own wisdom? Can they rise to disprove anything that God ever said? The answer is an emphatic “No!” God has made foolish the wisdom of this world.

1:21 Man cannot by his own wisdom come to the knowledge of God. For centuries God gave the human race this opportunity, and the result was failure. Then it pleased God by the preaching of the cross, a message that seems foolish to men, to save those who believe. The foolishness of the thing preached refers to the cross. Of course, we know that it is not foolishness, but it seems foolish to the unenlightened mind of man. Godet says that verse 21 contains a whole philosophy of history, the substance of entire volumes. We should not hurry over it quickly, but ponder deeply its tremendous truths.

1:22 It was characteristic of the Jews to request a sign. Their attitude was that they would believe if some miracle were shown to them. The Greeks on the other hand searched for wisdom. They were interested in human reasonings, in arguments, in logic.

1:23 But Paul did not cater to their desires. He says, “We preach Christ crucified.” As someone has said, “He was not a sign-loving Jew, nor a wisdom-loving Greek, but a Savior-loving Christian.”
To the Jews, Christ crucified was a stumbling block. They looked for a mighty military leader to deliver them from the oppression of Rome. Instead of that, the gospel offered them a Savior nailed to a cross of shame. To the Greeks, Christ crucified was foolishness. They could not understand how One who died in such seeming weakness and failure could ever solve their problems.

1:24 But strangely enough, the very things that the Jews and the Gentiles sought are found in a wonderful way in the Lord Jesus. To those who hear His call and trust in Him, both Jews and Greeks, Christ becomes the power of God and the wisdom of God.

1:25 Actually there is neither foolishness nor weakness with God. But the apostle is saying in verse 25 that what seems to be foolishness on God's part, in the eyes of men, is actually wiser than men at their very best. Also, what seems to be weakness on God's part, in the eyes of men, turns out to be stronger than anything that men can produce.

1:26 Having spoken of the gospel itself, the apostle now turns to the people whom God calls by the gospel (vv. 26-29). He reminds the Corinthians that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble are called. It has often been pointed out that the text does not say “not any” but not many. Because of this slight difference, one English lady of noble blood used to testify that she was saved by the letter “m.”
The Corinthians themselves had not come from the upper intellectual crust of society. They had not been reached by high-sounding philosophies but by the simple gospel. Why, then, were they putting such a premium on human wisdom and exalting preachers who sought to make the message palatable to the worldly-wise?
If men were to build a church, they would want to enroll the most prominent members of the community. But verse 26 teaches us that the people men esteem so highly, God passes by. The ones He calls are not generally the ones the world considers great.

1:27 God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty. As Erich Sauer says:
The more primitive the material, the greater—if the same standard of art can be reached—the honor of the Master; the smaller the army, the mightier—if the same great victory can be won—the praise of the conqueror.
God used trumpets to bring down the walls of Jericho. He reduced Gideon's army from 32,000 to 300 to rout the armies of Midian. He used an oxgoad in the hand of Shamgar to defeat the Philistines. With the jawbone of a donkey He enabled Samson to defeat a whole army. And our Lord fed over 5,000 with nothing more than a few loaves and fishes.

1:28 To make up what someone has called “God's five-ranked army of fools,” Paul adds the base things of the world and the things which are despised and the things which are not. Using such unlikely materials, God brings to nothing the things that are. In other words, He loves to take up people who are of no esteem in the eyes of the world and use them to glorify Himself. These verses should serve as a rebuke to Christians who curry the favor of prominent and well-known personages and show little or no regard for the more humble saints of God.

1:29 God's purpose in choosing those of no account in the eyes of the world is that all the glory should accrue to Himself and not to man. Since salvation is entirely of Him, He alone is worthy to be praised.

1:30 Verse 30 emphasizes even further that all we are and have comes from Him—not from philosophy, and that there is therefore no room for human glory. First of all, Christ became for us wisdom. He is the wisdom of God (v. 24), the One whom God's wisdom chose as the way of salvation. When we have Him we have a positional wisdom that guarantees our full salvation. Secondly, He is our righteousness. Through faith in Him we are reckoned righteous by a holy God. Thirdly, He is our sanctification. In ourselves we have nothing in the way of personal holiness, but in Him we are positionally sanctified, and by His power we are transformed from one degree of sanctification to another. Finally, He is our redemption, and this doubtless speaks of redemption in its final aspect when the Lord will come and take us home to be with Himself, and when we shall be redeemed—spirit, soul, and body.

Traill delineated the truth sharply:
Wisdom out[side] of Christ is damning folly—righteousness out[side] of Christ is guilt and condemnation—sanctification out[side] of Christ is filth and sin—redemption out[side] of Christ is bondage and slavery.
A. T. Pierson relates verse 30 to the life and ministry of our Lord:
His deeds and His words and His practices, these show Him as the wisdom of God. Then come His death, burial, and resurrection: these have to do with our righteousness. Then His forty days' walk among men, His ascension up on high, the gift of the Spirit, and His session at the right hand of God, have to do with our sanctification. Then His coming again, which has to do with our redemption.

Shalom
Johann

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Sorry @Jonathan_Gale, when it comes to "Messianics" I would prefer Dr. Michael Brown and One for Israel.

I had a quick read on Torah to the tribes or House/Beth Tikkun Ministries, and don't agree at all.

You'll be surprised to know that I am familiar with the Messianic teachings.
But like Hillel and Shammai, various "branches" and I don't need to stand on one foot for a rabbi to teach me friend.
Certainly not Rashi and Rambam.

Shalom
Johann

Shalom brother. As long as they teach the word of God and speak truth to power, instead of rock concert and TED talk, that's good enough for me. Hope you find what you're looking for.

 

[complete]

Hello @Johann,

Yes, it is God's work. He places us 'in' Christ.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Johann]

Shalom brother. As long as they teach the word of God and speak truth to power, instead of rock concert and TED talk, that's good enough for me. Hope you find what you're looking for.

I have found what I am looking for brother. Yeshua HaMashiach.
Like I have said, I don't need to go through the gates of Judaism and observe the 7 Noahide mitzvot and let a rabbi teach me.
Modern Day Orthodox Judaism is off the derech friend, believe me.

Shalom
Johann.

 

[Johann]

Hello @Johann,

Yes, it is God's work. He places us 'in' Christ.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

...and for that I am eternally grateful to our Lord and great God, Christ Jesus.

Shalom
Johann

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I have found what I am looking for brother. Yeshua HaMashiach.
Like I have said, I don't need to go through the gates of Judaism and observe the 7 Noahide mitzvot and let a rabbi teach me.
Modern Day Orthodox Judaism is off the derech friend, believe me.

Shalom
Johann.

There's no those gates of Judaism, only the narrow gate to eternal life, and Yeshua is the way. I just gotta admit that I listen to them because they're the only ones who teach prophecy and view all kinds of crazy world events behind the smoke and mirrors through the lens of God's prophecy. They also teach a lot of OT and reveal how God's plan was laid out in those stories that all point to Yeshua. It's not just drawing the inspirational value from those biblical figures and their stories, you know, not pretending that I'm David facing my Goliath, I'm Abraham being called out of my comfort zone to an uncharted territory, I'm Daniel standing my ground against the tyrant's mandate to worship him. They know the symbolism in these stories and how they work in God's plan, and that truly amazes me. No other churches teach that.

 

[Johann]

There's no those gates of Judaism, only the narrow gate to eternal life, and Yeshua is the way. I just gotta admit that I listen to them because they're the only ones who teach prophecy and view all kinds of crazy world events behind the smoke and mirrors through the lens of God's prophecy. They also teach a lot of OT and reveal how God's plan was laid out in those stories that all point to Yeshua. That truly amazes me. No other churches teach that.

May I make a suggestion?
Instead of being interested in prophecy, let us examine ourselves in the light of the scriptures, making our calling and election sure, and study for ourselves, allowing the Holy Spirit to illuminate the scriptures for us, make it applicable in our lives.
Yes?

Shalom
Johann

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

May I make a suggestion?
Instead of being interested in prophecy, let us examine ourselves in the light of the scriptures, making our calling and election sure, and study for ourselves, allowing the Holy Spirit to illuminate the scriptures for us, make it applicable in our lives.
Yes?

Shalom
Johann

I agree, but this is part of the problem, that we’re too centered on ourselves and not on Yeshua. You know, prophecies count for at least a third of the whole Bible. All religions have their own histories and doctrines, what makes Christianity unique is none other than these prophecies. All those parables in the gospel books are prophecies of God’s kingdom, not just made up allegories to teach a moral lesson. It’s not about date setting or fortune telling, but the blueprint of God’s grand plan. We’re not heroes of the movies of our own lives, we are servants in His movie, and the Bible is his script. History is His story. That shows God’s sovereignty, that he’s truly the beginning and the end, he’s always in control no matter what circumstance we’re in, that’s the source of our strength and the foundation of our faith. You’re not gonna find this kind of insight in any happy clappy “megachurch”.

 

[lentz]

On...If sins are forgiven, how will Christians be judged?



question: One of the basic prerequisites of a Christian relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ is that He will forget all past sins, (Isaiah 43:25 and many others). If this is true (and I KNOW it is) how is the Judgment Seat of Christ (1 Thessalonians 5:18) and accountability for every idle word (I don't know the exact scripture), handled from the Lord's perspective?

I understand this from the perspective of I cor 2.1-15...

The image there is that our 'works' are like an building we build over time, and at the Judgment Seat our 'works' are put to the test...those works that are built of 'solid' character (e.g. gold, silver, etc.) SURVIVE the fire and those built of 'flimsy' materials (e.g. hay, wood, etc.) are destroyed...we are 'saved' of course, but the 'rewards' we get to take with us to honor the Lord with are dependent on our works...according to vs 15, some Christians will go into the Kingdom with absolutely nothing (just as a person who escapes from a burning house takes nothing with him--'as one escaping from the fire')

The 'idle' words passage is important is that these words (acc. to the passage) are the most ACCURATE INDICATORS of our heart's content ('for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks...')...whatever you fill your heart/mind with (e.g. life, death, self, others, God, wealth) will be 'manifested by' our 'unplanned' utterances...Not only will our works be judged for rewards, but so will our words be used to 'measure' our Christian growth...

One additional passage I use in understanding this, is the parable about the Master who entrusts different amounts of talents to different stewards...the stewards who were believers (the ones who KNEW the master and loved Him) shared in the fruits of their labors!--they were held accountable for the investments the Lord made in them...(not for salvation, but for producing and furthering the Lord's household and kingdom)...the one 'steward' who had a negative view of the Lord (and hence betrays the absence of a knowledge of Him--i.e. an unbeliever), is 'cast outside'...

I think that when He asks us what we did with the time, talents, relationships, education, money, health, church, interests He gave us, that He will REJOICE over each success we show Him, and probably ignore or downplay the failures...just my personal 'image' of the judgment seat for believers...(oh, just to make sure we are in synch, the Judgment Seat of Christ is ONLY for believers---unbelievers are judged at the Great White Throne judgment of Revelation).https://www.christianthinktank.com/qxnjudg.html#:~:text=On...If%20sins,judgment%20of%20Revelation).....

Shalom

Sorry im so late to the meeting.
In answer to the question how will christians be judged?..... We are judged in this life. You will pay in this life for sins.
If got a disease from a certain sin,you can be forgiven,but that disease will not magically go away.
If you steal,manslaughter or some such sin,you can be forgiven,but you must still pay restitution. Even if forfeiting your own life for one you took. You will go to heaven if forgiven,but will pay every jot and tittle. The lost get no forgiveness and their sins follow them to the Great White Throne Judgement and cast into hell.
Paul was forgiven for his sins. But paid dearly. I believe he was actually stoned to death in Acts. Paying for Stephen and others.
God bless

 

[Curtis]

2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that everyone may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

The question is "When" does God "reward" everyone for the things he has done while living in his body? In this life or the next?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Sorry im so late to the meeting.
In answer to the question how will christians be judged?..... We are judged in this life. You will pay in this life for sins.
If got a disease from a certain sin,you can be forgiven,but that disease will not magically go away.
If you steal,manslaughter or some such sin,you can be forgiven,but you must still pay restitution. Even if forfeiting your own life for one you took. You will go to heaven if forgiven,but will pay every jot and tittle. The lost get no forgiveness and their sins follow them to the Great White Throne Judgement and cast into hell.
Paul was forgiven for his sins. But paid dearly. I believe he was actually stoned to death in Acts. Paying for Stephen and others.
God bless

The thing is, we suffer from natural and logical CONSEQUENCES for our sins. Natural consequences are the natural results of our sins - thought, word and deeds. New scientific research shows that even sinful thoughts in our mind could trigger negative gene expressions, in the long term it could be detrimental to our mental health, no kidding; logical consequences are other people's logical reaction to our sins, like, what goes around comes around, in the long term this erodes trust and love between people, and it destroys society. Call that judgement if you want, I won't, because that damages God's character. God never intends to judge anybody, neither does he intend to condemn anybody to hell; we condemn ourselves by our sins, and eventually that would send us down to hell.