If you are sleeping with your Boyfriend it is a good chance That 99.99 %, you are Definitely going to HELL, and you can ask JESUS, HE will not lie.

[PloughBoy]

 

[Sue D.]

There Are some good video's out there.

 

[PloughBoy]

This is why, most are going to HELL Think about it, it is that important.

 

[Sue D.]

The cross of Calvary took place for a reason. I didn't watch very much of the video because didn't really have the time right now.

God alone knows who will accept or reject His salvation.

I'm thankful for My salvation and am willing to share the Gospel unto salvation with all who will listen.

So, maybe, instead of proclaiming the huge number who die without Christ, Be even More interested in proclaiming the Good news Of Salvation to all the 'whomevers' that Will.

 

[PloughBoy]

The cross of Calvary took place for a reason. I didn't watch very much of the video because didn't really have the time right now.

God alone knows who will accept or reject His salvation.

I'm thankful for My salvation and am willing to share the Gospel unto salvation with all who will listen.

So, maybe, instead of proclaiming the huge number who die without Christ, Be even More interested in proclaiming the Good news Of Salvation to all the 'whomevers' that Will.

You see when I 1st came to Christ, One of the 1st things I learn in "Biblical Learning" per se back up by the "Bible" before you comment on any thing either read the whole book or The whole story or you have heard the whole story by the Horses mouth. I haven't remain silent! That was the Beginning of a great and good habit , that i have not broken for over 44 years. I have listen or heard and read on "TALK JESUS" 3 hour straight "videos" at times. I have read all the materials until the Sun come up. even when i didn't want to. before i have commented on anyones thread. My commitment is TO "GOD"! So do you think I am going to not complete the race i have started. At the end of my journey , I know i will have to give a report. Our Whole Life is "a Stewardship".

I am not worldly concerning my mission. This is real, every drop. EVERY thing we say and think, and every lazy act, we are going to give an account of our "STEWARDSHIP"! Things we do in and out for a church building is not going to stand the Fire. Those things are going to perish in the flames.

Things I have read , many of books over 300 pages in one night setting until the sun come up before i have given any comment on anyone's book. the things i comment on about on "TalkJesus" here, i know i have spent 100's and 100's of hour on the one subject alone within the 44 years of my conversion. And i don't pickup someones book on the subject. I have done "The case study". Many of times the unction comes to not complete a book or video or lectures or systematic "Sermons" but i press to finish even when i don't want too. I done that in every thing in my life. I Press on. when others don't, but pretend that they do! "Why are they LYING to The HOLY SPIRIT of GOD" "ANANIAS & SAPPHIRA"

And this video too, I started not to finish all the way to the end. but a voice deep down in side of my soul, press on and told me to finish until the end. I am so glad i did, it gave confirmation of what i already knew. When church have gone the other way! That is, I do my homework! I am not a cop out concerning the "BIBLICAL TEXT"! That is why i am so glad, this portion too, is apart of my soul. "Voodie Baucham" is SOLID! on this.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness."

New American Standard Bible
“Our Law does not judge the person unless it first hears from him and knows what he is doing, does it?”

PS let us all make time, before we comment on serious things pertaining to "GOD's WORD"! We are not the people of the world. we have to give a acoount they don't, they are condemn it does matter if they do or not.

If you fill yourself with junk religious food, you will grow. If you fill yourself up with the Real Manna from Heaven you will grow too. In both cases you will be full.

Junk in, Junk out.

 

[PloughBoy]

Now you think, and you think very hard, is it worth it and taking the risk. And please, do not be tempted to do so. Don't wait to the last minute. and you look up at that clock. Don't wait for that last "Tick Tock". Because, between The Tick and The Tock, a lot can happen. Although GOD can hold you in Time between "Tick and The TOCK" to give you time to Repent. It would not be advisable to linger in That Time and space.

Now think. Think.

 

[Sue D.]

The act of having sex with your boyfriend or girlfriend will not send anyone to hell. Having sex with anyone outside of marriage is wrong but it won't send anyone to hell. Rejecting Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. Will. And the individual's reason for engaging I premarital sex should be considered. Depending on the age of the couple and to their personal set of circumstances. God's word is very specific.

 

[B-A-C]

He act of having sex with your boyfriend or girlfriend will not send anyone to hell. Having sex with anyone outside of marriage is wrong bit it won't send anyone to hell. Rejecting Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. Will. And the individuals reason for engaging I premarital sex should be considered. Depending on the age of the couple and try their personal set of circumstances. God's word is very specific.

Huh?

1Cor 6:9; Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
1Cor 6:10; nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

Practicing fornicators who do not repent, will not be in the kingdom of God. If you're not in that kingdom, guess where you end up.

Heb 13:4; Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

Fornication is just as bad as homosexuality or any other sin.

1Thes 4:3; For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from sexual immorality;
1Thes 4:4; that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor,
1Thes 4:5; not in lustful passion, like the Gentiles who do not know God;
1Thes 4:6; and that no man transgress and defraud his brother in the matter because the Lord is the avenger in all these things, just as we also told you before and solemnly warned you.
1Thes 4:7; For God has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification.
1Thes 4:8; So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.

If you're practicing illicit sex, you're rejecting God. It doesn't matter if you claim to know Jesus or not.

Tit 1:16; They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed.

Heb 10:26; For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

If you're willfully living in sin, willfully continuing in that lifestyle, you are definitely going to hell.

There are NO reasons allowed for pre-marital sex in the Bible. None.

1Cor 6:18; Run from sexual sin! No other sin so clearly affects the body as this one does. For sexual immorality is a sin against your own body.

 

[B-A-C]

He act of having sex with your boyfriend or girlfriend will not send anyone to hell. Having sex with anyone outside of marriage is wrong bit it won't send anyone to hell

I see this in OSAS theology quite a bit. Any sin is allowed as long as I know Jesus. Once I'm saved, I can't get unsaved, so anything goes.
It doesn't matter if I'm a homosexual child molester, serial killer, .. hey, I know Jesus and I'm saved.

1Jn 2:3; By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jn 2:4; The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;

If you're disobeying Him, you don't know Him.

 

[Sue D.]

Have you never done anything in a moment or time of passion? You're with that very special person and you really have the desire for sexual closeness to them. So you go ahead añd oops you're pregnant. Well bàck when I was a teenager that did happen with a young couple at church. They went forward one Sunday morning during invitation time - thus confessing and asking forgiveness
From their church family.

On the other hand -- if their attitude had been that of ,so what, we'll do what we want. Then they would have received church discipline. Lots of times they will simply leave the church.

and if two unmarried people from church go ahead and move in together they would be receiving a visit from pastor and wife and or deacon. They would share biblically why what they were doing was wrong and get their reaction. We're they willing to accept the correcting or not. We're they born again or not. Their personal salvation would be of most concern. Then the Holy Spirit will also b dealing with them.

The passage you shared -- a lifestyle of those activities is a good indication that the person is not born again. And a person might be addicted to sex. . over active hormones can cause problems,.too. God knows our heart attitudes
That does not condone what we're doing -- but when a person has a problem and they seek help - an accountability partner that can helpful.

 

[Reba1]

Repentance matters.

 

[Sue D.]

@B -A-C osas -equals eternal security,. The indwelling of the Holy Spirit WILL bring positive inner change that will be observed by our actions. God chastizes those who are His children. Even As a born again person we can get off track and God can take that person home to Himself before his actions result in more damage than good.

Maybe new believers don't get the initiàl discipling that's needed. We all need spiritual encouraging.

 

[Reba1]

Remember the OP " says if you are" "not if you did." Repentance matters to those who are in the OSAS, as much as to the 'get resaved every Sunday "

 

[B-A-C]

Repentance matters to those who are in the OSAS

I know you aren't the one who made the statement, but if you say "It doesn't matter if you keep fornicating, that won't keep you out of heaven".
Then obviously... repentance doesn't matter.

 

[Reba1]

I know you aren't the one who made the statement, but if you say "It doesn't matter if you keep fornicating, that won't keep you out of heaven".
Then obviously... repentance doesn't matter.

I know no one who believes repentance dose not matter from either camp ,

 

[B-A-C]

I know no one who believes repentance dose not matter from either camp ,

Then read post #67, in this thread.

 

[Reba1]

He act of having sex with your boyfriend or girlfriend will not send anyone to hell. Having sex with anyone outside of marriage is wrong bit it won't send anyone to hell. Rejecting Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. Will. And the individuals reason for engaging I premarital sex should be considered. Depending on the age of the couple and try their personal set of circumstances. God's word is very specific.

Have you never done anything in a moment or time of passion? You're with that very special person and you really have the desire for sexual closeness to them. So you go ahead añd oops you're pregnant. Well bàck when I was a teenager that did happen with a young couple at church. They went forward one Sunday morning during invitation time - thus confessing and asking forgiveness
From their church family.

On the other hand -- if their attitude had been that of ,so what, we'll do what we want. Then they would have received church discipline. Lots of times they will simply leave the church.

and if two unmarried people from church go ahead and move in together they would be receiving a visit from pastor and wife and or deacon. They would share biblically why what they were doing was wrong and get their reaction. We're they willing to accept the correcting or not. We're they born again or not. Their personal salvation would be of most concern. Then the Holy Spirit will also b dealing with them.

The passage you shared -- a lifestyle of those activities is a good indication that the person is not born again. And a person might be addicted to sex. . over active hormones can cause problems,.too. God knows our heart attitudes
That does not condone what we're doing -- but when a person has a problem and they seek help - an accountability partner that can helpful.

Mister accuser @B-A-C read the clarification in post 70

 

[PloughBoy]

A Call to Holiness (Hebrews 12)
"See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God, and that no root of bitterness springs up to cause trouble and defile many. See to it that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his birthright. For you know that afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected. He could find no ground for repentance, though he sought the blessing with tears.…"

Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
Mark 7:21
For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Acts 15:20,29
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and fromthings strangled, and from blood…

What the world calls passion. God might call it sin. and "the Wages of SIN is death" Sin has wages. And i do not want to work for it, because i do not like what it pays. Sin may also be pleasurable. And good to the taste. and sweet as honey.

American Standard Version
Then Judas, who betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought back the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, '[even Judas showed works of His repentance.]'

For our GOD is A Loving GOD by "Warning us what will happen before we do it.

The woman and the man who had sin: Jesus : "now go and sin no more, less a worser thing happen to you". Now that is what you call a loving GOD who warns what happens if you continue in your sins.

The Love of GOD.

GOD the FATHER will JUDGE the "FORNICATOR", The ADULTERER ..etc, for this judgment is a personal one. whether you believe it or not does not matter. and I do not care what your church teach or thinks. This is a matter for "The KING" and not the queen. And it does not matter how hard you try to prove me wrong and lighten the blow. In this matter only is to have a clear "Conscious" and "a clear conscious has great value' for many have cast the "Clear Conscious" away.

 

[Shae]

I'm trans

 

[Bob Carabbio]

That is right, ASK JESUS for HE will not lie,

On the other hand, since "Marriage" is the joining of Flesh (just ask Jacob), then the first time a her, and a Him, join flesh - they are married - period. The cermony in the church and the party afterwards is nothing but an "Official" (secular) contract signing with witnesses which details property rights, access rights, parental rights, and what to do when the contract is dissolved (Divorce), it has nothing to do with the state of marriage at all. NOT having a valid leagally binding marriage contract causes legal issues, and secular complications, but has nothing to do with the state of marriage that existed from the first "joining of flesh".

So if a him and a her join flesh, and remain monogamously faithful to each other, then they're just as "Married" under God's sight as if they spent $50,000 on a "wedding" (which doesn't constitute a "Marriage" at all).

Ideally the actual "Marriage" happens in private that night, but given the "morals" prevalent in the U.S. (and other places), the couple in the wedding have PROBABLY been Married for months, or years, and are probably each are deep in multiple adultries when the celebrant pronounces them "man and wife".

Fortunately, we have an advocate when we confess our sin.