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Is God ok with transgender people?
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Dear Brother,
Thank-you for sharing this!
I particularly liked Ravi's one comment of "Jesus did not come to make dead people good, but to make dead people alive."
Again thank-you for sharing.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
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Thank-you for sharing this!
I particularly liked Ravi's one comment of "Jesus did not come to make dead people good, but to make dead people alive."
Again thank-you for sharing.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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"transgender" is when a man or woman feels that they are biologically One sex but feel like they are the opposite sex inwardly. I just Googled it cause I wasn't sure What it meant.
God created us male and female. Sounds simple enough -- BUT -- we're living in a sinful world. But it sounds basically like the same question as homosexuality. God created mankind to be able to have children together. Only a man and a woman together can do that. Marriage is for creating family and so the next generation. And people are to save sexual activity for marriage. So -- I suppose that in theory -- if a man who really 'feels' like a woman Inside, marries a woman who feels like a man inside -- they equal each other out and Could have children together. They Could decide to go to Biblical counseling and attempt to get themselves 'figured out'. A Biblical counselor could help them come to Christ as their Savior - 1st -- realizing who they are in Christ. How to deal with their inside feelings.
We Do need to talk to God about All that kind of thing. He IS okay and Wants us to talk with Him about Everything in our lives / thoughts / Everything. And I have a hard time with That at times.
Maybe it's because we've gotten far away from God in society -- that we aren't encouraged to seek God -- we Are told that we should be Happy with everything. Whatever makes us Happy Must be right.
I'm sharing all this without having listened to the video.
People who choose to 'thumb their nose at God' Will be held accountable.
God created us male and female. Sounds simple enough -- BUT -- we're living in a sinful world. But it sounds basically like the same question as homosexuality. God created mankind to be able to have children together. Only a man and a woman together can do that. Marriage is for creating family and so the next generation. And people are to save sexual activity for marriage. So -- I suppose that in theory -- if a man who really 'feels' like a woman Inside, marries a woman who feels like a man inside -- they equal each other out and Could have children together. They Could decide to go to Biblical counseling and attempt to get themselves 'figured out'. A Biblical counselor could help them come to Christ as their Savior - 1st -- realizing who they are in Christ. How to deal with their inside feelings.
We Do need to talk to God about All that kind of thing. He IS okay and Wants us to talk with Him about Everything in our lives / thoughts / Everything. And I have a hard time with That at times.
Maybe it's because we've gotten far away from God in society -- that we aren't encouraged to seek God -- we Are told that we should be Happy with everything. Whatever makes us Happy Must be right.
I'm sharing all this without having listened to the video.
People who choose to 'thumb their nose at God' Will be held accountable.
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Any form of sexual feelings or actions which are not between a man and a woman who are married to each other is Wrong in God's eye's, anything which are not between a man and a woman who are married to each other is SIN.
Back to the topic title 'Is God ok with transgender people?'
God loves us all and wants us to be saved, but if we continue to sin we will pay the price for them.
We are to love all, transgender, homosexual, lesbian, gay, liar, thief, etc., etc.
God loves us but not the sin.
Back to the topic title 'Is God ok with transgender people?'
God loves us all and wants us to be saved, but if we continue to sin we will pay the price for them.
We are to love all, transgender, homosexual, lesbian, gay, liar, thief, etc., etc.
God loves us but not the sin.
Some ppl really are both. My grandmother worked as a nurse in a mental institution and she saw those. I think it's a demon when a man feels he is a woman or the other way around and it can come from sexual abuse as a kid.
I felt like I was a man sometimes when I was 18 or so. I'd draw a beard on with mascara and walk around with boy clothes. My ex didn't find it very attractive lol, so he kicked a demon out and it was gone. Lol I remember he asked: do you never wear a dress? and I said: no that's effeminate. Bahahahaha he was the only one who even showed interest. Horrible. The first time we would go out, I walked around in race bike clothes for boys. Then when I got feminine and wore dresses and used make up, all of a sudden a guy from church who never saw me standing before, showed interest.
I felt like I was a man sometimes when I was 18 or so. I'd draw a beard on with mascara and walk around with boy clothes. My ex didn't find it very attractive lol, so he kicked a demon out and it was gone. Lol I remember he asked: do you never wear a dress? and I said: no that's effeminate. Bahahahaha he was the only one who even showed interest. Horrible. The first time we would go out, I walked around in race bike clothes for boys. Then when I got feminine and wore dresses and used make up, all of a sudden a guy from church who never saw me standing before, showed interest.
False.
And Jesus hung out with hookers and he told the pharisees that the hookers went before them into the Kingdom.
Sin is sin. A sinner is a sinner no matter what kind of sin they commit so it does not matter who Jesus hung out with because they were all sinners and all sinners no matter whether they be hookers or drunkards or pastors or elders or deacons or Christians or atheist if they do not repent they too shall perish like the Galileans at the tower fell upon.
There is no honor or hierarchy among sinners a sinner is a sinner no matter they're standing in society.
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Jesus didn't 'hang-out' with hookers as you put it, he came across sinners everywhere and in doing so told them what they must do to be saved.
The hookers could enter the Kingdom of Heaven before the Pharisees, IF they repented and sinned no more.
Sometimes things are not what is said, but they way they are said.
Many times Jesus said... 'Go and sin no more', or 'Your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more'
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We are told over and over again in the New testament to "stop sinning". By Jesus, by Paul, and by Peter
John 5:14; Afterward Jesus *found him in the temple and said to him, "Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you."
John 8:11; She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."]
John 8:34; Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.
John 15:22; "If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
Acts 3:19; "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;
1 Cor 15:34; Become sober-minded as you ought, and stop sinning; for some have no knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.
1 Tim 5:20; Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning.
Heb 10:26; For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
Tit 3:10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning,
Tit 3:11; knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned.
Luke 13:3; "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.
Luke 13:5; "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish."
Acts 8:22; "Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray the Lord that, if possible, the intention of your heart may be forgiven you.
Matt 3:8; "Therefore bear fruit in keeping with repentance;
Luke 5:32; "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance."
It seems the song many churches sing these days is about Jesus leaving the 99, to get that last sheep. But what does that last sheep have to do?
Luke 15:7; "I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
Acts 11:18; When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life."
2 Pet 3:9; The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
This "stopping of sin" is what separates us from the world. No longer "practicing" sin is what sanctifies us. Sin is a part of our old nature.
We are told to put off the old nature and put on the new man (Jesus). Jesus didn't sin.
We are told to have the mind of Christ. Jesus didn't sin.
I'm not talking about being perfectly sinless here. But we have to be salt and light. If the salt loses it's flavor it's no longer good for anything.
If we are exactly the same as the rest of the world, and act exactly like the rest of the world... guess what... we ARE the rest of the world.
We cannot go on living in sin. We cannot continue to practice sin. The old self with it's sinful ways has to die.
Rom 8:13; for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
Rom 6:12; Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts,
Rom 6:16; Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?
We have to "put aside" the old sinful self.
Rom 6:6; knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
Eph 4:22; that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
Col 3:9; Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with its evil practices,
We have to put on the new self.
Eph 4:24; and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth.
Col 3:10; and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him—
1 Pet 2:24; and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.
Some churches NEVER preach this. But repentance is absolutely required for salvation. It is not an option.
Deut 22:5; "A woman shall not wear man's clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman's clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God.
1 Cor 6:9; Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
John 5:14; Afterward Jesus *found him in the temple and said to him, "Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you."
John 8:11; She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."]
John 8:34; Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.
John 15:22; "If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
Acts 3:19; "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;
1 Cor 15:34; Become sober-minded as you ought, and stop sinning; for some have no knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.
1 Tim 5:20; Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning.
Heb 10:26; For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
Tit 3:10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning,
Tit 3:11; knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned.
Luke 13:3; "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.
Luke 13:5; "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish."
Acts 8:22; "Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray the Lord that, if possible, the intention of your heart may be forgiven you.
Matt 3:8; "Therefore bear fruit in keeping with repentance;
Luke 5:32; "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance."
It seems the song many churches sing these days is about Jesus leaving the 99, to get that last sheep. But what does that last sheep have to do?
Luke 15:7; "I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
Acts 11:18; When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life."
2 Pet 3:9; The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
This "stopping of sin" is what separates us from the world. No longer "practicing" sin is what sanctifies us. Sin is a part of our old nature.
We are told to put off the old nature and put on the new man (Jesus). Jesus didn't sin.
We are told to have the mind of Christ. Jesus didn't sin.
I'm not talking about being perfectly sinless here. But we have to be salt and light. If the salt loses it's flavor it's no longer good for anything.
If we are exactly the same as the rest of the world, and act exactly like the rest of the world... guess what... we ARE the rest of the world.
We cannot go on living in sin. We cannot continue to practice sin. The old self with it's sinful ways has to die.
Rom 8:13; for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
Rom 6:12; Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts,
Rom 6:16; Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?
We have to "put aside" the old sinful self.
Rom 6:6; knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
Eph 4:22; that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
Col 3:9; Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with its evil practices,
We have to put on the new self.
Eph 4:24; and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth.
Col 3:10; and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him—
1 Pet 2:24; and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.
Some churches NEVER preach this. But repentance is absolutely required for salvation. It is not an option.
Deut 22:5; "A woman shall not wear man's clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman's clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God.
1 Cor 6:9; Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
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@Yib2me -- The lake of fire and brimstone will be the future eternal 'home' for all who reject God's way for their salvation. It is only Meant for satan, the beast and the false prophet as is found in Revelation.
It will be punishment with eternal life without God -- total -- utter - complete DARK.
Definitely NOT a blessing from God. Heaven is the blessing from God.
Jesus Christ came to bring sinners to the Father. So -- He went where the sinners were. He told the woman caught in adultery to go and sin no more.
It will be punishment with eternal life without God -- total -- utter - complete DARK.
Definitely NOT a blessing from God. Heaven is the blessing from God.
Jesus Christ came to bring sinners to the Father. So -- He went where the sinners were. He told the woman caught in adultery to go and sin no more.
That's what I mean. He came to call sinners to repentance.
He let one kiss His feet and cry over them.
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Matt 9:11; When the Pharisees saw this, they said to His disciples, "Why is your Teacher eating with the tax collectors and sinners?"
Matt 9:12; But when Jesus heard this, He said, "It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick.
Matt 11:19 "The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds."
Matt 11:20 Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles were done, because they did not repent.
Matt 11:21 "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
Matt 11:22 "Nevertheless I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you.
Matt 11:23 "And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day.
Matt 11:24 "Nevertheless I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for you.
Matt 9:12; But when Jesus heard this, He said, "It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick.
Matt 11:19 "The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds."
Matt 11:20 Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles were done, because they did not repent.
Matt 11:21 "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
Matt 11:22 "Nevertheless I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you.
Matt 11:23 "And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day.
Matt 11:24 "Nevertheless I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for you.
I have a hard time thinking of lake of fire and brimstone as being a blessing. It WILL be a horrible existence for unbelievers.
But ,yes, we won't have to live amid sin any longer. 'we' will have glorified bodies like Jesus Christ had after He resurrected from the dead.
But ,yes, we won't have to live amid sin any longer. 'we' will have glorified bodies like Jesus Christ had after He resurrected from the dead.
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Luke 9:54-56 NASB
When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?" [55] But He turned and rebuked them, [and said, "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of; [56] for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them."] And they went on to another village.
When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?" [55] But He turned and rebuked them, [and said, "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of; [56] for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them."] And they went on to another village.
Revelation 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Ezekiel 33:11 New King James Version (NKJV)
11 Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord God, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?’
Ezekiel 18:23 New King James Version (NKJV)
23 Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “andnot that he should turn from his ways and live?
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