Is It Really One Flesh?

[gdemoss]

.The first thing in the garden that is not good is that "the man should be alone".

It should be remembered that this is happening during creation week on day six. It is an expanded view of the events of that day. Any other view invites the imagination of man which is wicked from his youth, to invent all kinds of evil to add into the scripture for interpretation purposes.

Why was he suddenly alone?

He wasn't 'suddenly' alone. He was the only one created at this point.

Had he already separated himself from God?

You realize that your suggesting Adam sinned before Eve was made which is in great error. To separate oneself from God is to die. Death comes by sin. Your being fed nonsense from a spirit which is not of God.

Is it possible that marriage is a picture of the relationship Adam originally had with God?

Ephesians 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Ephesians 5:32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

It is also a picture of the oneness of Christ and all his church.
His church is that woman in proverbs 31.At least we are supposed to be.

That makes sense to me,the command structure is only needed for efficiency and direction.It also prevents manipulation from either their children or from the outside world.
Marriage is a picture of Christ and the church,we give Christ the final authority.
I have been married for 29 years and my wife knows what I would do or say in almost any situation.You would think after 2000 years the bride would know him a little better but God's timing is different than ours.

Also if the two have a child then technically the two have become one flesh.

Seeing as your foundation that you set in the beginning was based upon imaginary thinking leading to error, there is no further need to address what follows.

May God through his spirit guide you into all truth,

In Jesus Name,

Gary

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

It should be remembered that this is happening during creation week on day six. It is an expanded view of the events of that day.

I assume you mean Gen.2:4 as being the beginning of the the account of the events on day six mentioned in Gen 1:31.
It is interesting to note that everything was very good at the end of the day.If the fall of man happened on that day why would God call it very good?
Gen.1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

You realize that your suggesting Adam sinned before Eve was made which is in great error.

It was a question,not a statement.I can think of a few other scenarios also.It would not be sin if Adam felt alone in the presence of God.I personally feel I would enjoy that communion with God.
Sin means missing the mark.All Adam had to do was be what he was.
He tended the garden and named stuff,I'm sure he loved God but something was missing something was not good.

He wasn't 'suddenly' alone. He was the only one created at this point.

I'm just not sure how having the living God hang out with you qualifies as being alone.We are even told in the new testament it is better not to marry so that we can devote more time to God.

 

[CookieRaider]

Apparently from what I read about submission in marriage, since the male is the head of the woman, if she has good advice and wisdom for him in a situation, he is free to ignore it and make the decision without her. This doesn't sound equal to me either. :sadface:
I am having a hard time with this.

 

[farout]

If a husband is really a man of the WORD that he is a servant, protector, provider, and lover of his wife. This is treating the wife as the "softer" not "weaker one" as some have suggested. The wife has life very hard, and afetr we had 4 children, I do not see how she did it! Just birthing a child is not anything I would have the courage to do if I were a woman. I can say that my wife of 43 years is a real Christian Lady. Being a mon is more like four fulltime jobs, I could never have been anything close to her in all she is done. I would rather work 2 full time jobs and sllep only 4 hours than be a mom with all she has done. So please don't think all men are lording it over their wife and teating her as a second class person. Wome deserve to be lifted up and adored and loved for the so many things they do, that us men could never do.

God bless you all women!

 

[dannibear]

If a husband is really a man of the WORD that he is a servant, protector, provider, and lover of his wife. This is treating the wife as the "softer" not "weaker one" as some have suggested. The wife has life very hard, and afetr we had 4 children, I do not see how she did it! Just birthing a child is not anything I would have the courage to do if I were a woman. I can say that my wife of 43 years is a real Christian Lady. Being a mon is more like four fulltime jobs, I could never have been anything close to her in all she is done. I would rather work 2 full time jobs and sllep only 4 hours than be a mom with all she has done. So please don't think all men are lording it over their wife and teating her as a second class person. Wome deserve to be lifted up and adored and loved for the so many things they do, that us men could never do.

God bless you all women!

This post has helped me a lot. Thank you!

 

[dannibear]

Apparently from what I read about submission in marriage, since the male is the head of the woman, if she has good advice and wisdom for him in a situation, he is free to ignore it and make the decision without her. This doesn't sound equal to me either. :sadface:
I am having a hard time with this.

I felt the same way for quite awhile but then my
boyfriend asked me something. He asked,
"Why would you marry a guy like that anyway?"
We have been able to be in a relationship for quite
some time now due to the fact that he is different
from other guys our age. He helps a lot and always
asks me if I need anything. He helps my grandpa around
the house with things I can't do. He is always spoiling
me even when I tell him not to hehe. Most importantly,
he helps me grow in Christ, and encourage me to be
all I can be. He helps me with my goals. I realize if that
is the way a husband should be in a marriage, then
I wouldn't be bitter submitting to my future husband.

 

[will]

I felt the same way for quite awhile but then my
boyfriend asked me something. He asked,
"Why would you marry a guy like that anyway?"
We have been able to be in a relationship for quite
some time now due to the fact that he is different
from other guys our age. He helps a lot and always
asks me if I need anything. He helps my grandpa around
the house with things I can't do. He is always spoiling
me even when I tell him not to hehe. Most importantly,
he helps me grow in Christ, and encourage me to be
all I can be. He helps me with my goals. I realize if that
is the way a husband should be in a marriage, then
I wouldn't be bitter submitting to my future husband.

Sister,
Then your boyfriend is doing what is prescribed in the Scriptures. If he is a mature enough Christian, there is a chance that he will continue to do that when you both are married one day.

This was told by a woman to me: That every woman's desire is to meet the man who will treat her as though she is a priceless treasure that worth so much (Proverbs 31 says that too, by the way).

The role that was established by God for man and woman are designed specifically for each gender from physical level right down (deep) to the spiritual level. There is nothing to resent, as we are all to *submit* fully to our Lord.

(and as you know, Our Lord is quite popular with the ladies :wink

Another striking example for me is women's ability to perform multitasking. We men either have a scatterbrain that is easily distracted, or a single-mindedness that made us very useful in a special task, but an utter failure to accomplish more varied and complex tasks all at the same time.

My precious wife can cook, dictate musical notes to my daughter who is practicing piano, balance the checkbook, and tell me where I have misplaced my phone. All at the same time

 

[dannibear]

This was told by a woman to me: That every woman's desire is to meet the man who will treat her as though she is a priceless treasure that worth so much (Proverbs 31 says that too, by the way).

A very good thought. I can't deny that desire myself.

(and as you know, Our Lord is quite popular with the ladies :wink

Hahaha! Made me laugh! Although this IS true.

Another striking example for me is women's ability to perform multitasking. We men either have a scatterbrain that is easily distracted, or a single-mindedness that made us very useful in a special task, but an utter failure to accomplish more varied and complex tasks all at the same time.

My precious wife can cook, dictate musical notes to my daughter who is practicing piano, balance the checkbook, and tell me where I have misplaced my phone. All at the same time

I can multi-task, but I lose things all the time. My
boyfriend is constantly having to put my stuff in his
pockets when we go somewhere lol.