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Is Jesus the Only Way to be Saved?
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Jesus didn't say He was one of the ways we can be saved, or one of the doors we can enter to be saved. Rather, He said unequivocally that He is the door and that any other way is the way of thieves and robbers.
If there were other ways to be saved that would mean the sheep of Jesus' pasture could follow a stranger if they wanted to and still be welcome in Jesus' sheepfold, which would make Jesus a liar. But it's the other way around, Jesus' sheep hear The Good Shepherd's voice (only) and will not follow anyone else, and the liar is the one who tries to enter the gate by another way.
"Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, not A way, A truth or A life. Jesus is THE door, not "A" door - salvation is not multiple choice!
John 10:1-15
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.
7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life".
If there were other ways to be saved that would mean the sheep of Jesus' pasture could follow a stranger if they wanted to and still be welcome in Jesus' sheepfold, which would make Jesus a liar. But it's the other way around, Jesus' sheep hear The Good Shepherd's voice (only) and will not follow anyone else, and the liar is the one who tries to enter the gate by another way.
"Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, not A way, A truth or A life. Jesus is THE door, not "A" door - salvation is not multiple choice!
John 10:1-15
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.
7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life".
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I vote for "No, What about all the good people who have never heard of him?"
But.. in fact, I voted for "Yes, he is a savior of the world" both, for believers and non-believers too.
Once more "but" . . my "No" was for the ideology, where Christians are saying that: "Only baptized and re-born people will saved."
I mean.. "to be saved" isn't the love . . it isn't love for man to have great desire for going to heaven.
I mean.. again.. that fear of hell or beauty of heaven is spiritual filthiness, both!
Jesus Christ is Ocean . . living Ocean, you know?
And only the Ocean have authority to receive someone or reject . . There are always little fishes and.. huge sharks!
Who are we to judge thief or prostitute?
Muslim, Buddhist, Hindus and.. etc?
I'm sorry if my "English" is misunderstanding . .
I hope, I posed correctly.
But.. in fact, I voted for "Yes, he is a savior of the world" both, for believers and non-believers too.
Once more "but" . . my "No" was for the ideology, where Christians are saying that: "Only baptized and re-born people will saved."
I mean.. "to be saved" isn't the love . . it isn't love for man to have great desire for going to heaven.
I mean.. again.. that fear of hell or beauty of heaven is spiritual filthiness, both!
Jesus Christ is Ocean . . living Ocean, you know?
And only the Ocean have authority to receive someone or reject . . There are always little fishes and.. huge sharks!
Who are we to judge thief or prostitute?
Muslim, Buddhist, Hindus and.. etc?
I'm sorry if my "English" is misunderstanding . .
I hope, I posed correctly.
I suggest that it’s possible that God, desiring that all men should be saved and come to knowledge of the truth (I Tim. 2.4), has so providentially ordered the world that anyone who would believe in the Gospel if he heard it is born at a time and place in history where he does in fact hear it. In that case, no one could stand before God on the Judgement Day and complain that, while he may not have responded to God’s general revelation in nature and conscience and so finds himself condemned, he would have responded to the Gospel if only he had had the chance.
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It all boils down to whether you believe and follow God's Word and those who don't will believe anything.
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I hope that it is only the quality of your English in understanding what you are trying to say. If I have mistaken your words for something other than what I'm about to write in response, I apologize ahead of time.
Concepts of "Jesus Christ is Ocean..living Ocean" are attempts to describe attributes, and not who He is which is fully Man & God. I hope you have read the first post I made when I started this poll. Many might have wondered why ask a question when you're doing this on a Christian Site, who except for seekers, and others who don't believe (Yet I pray!) must surely select "Yes, 100% sure!" Sadly, this is not the case.
Whichever bible you are using, since I don't know what you mean by "Other" in your bio, must be taken into context, of all scripture. By making a statement that says "Yes, he is a savior of the world"
1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard [him] ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
are a couple of verses that reflect what you have said to be a correct statement, yet within the whole of scripture, we understand that of those who are to be saved, because it is very clear that there will be those who are not; must believe in who He says He is.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And we cannot leave out the verse which many even those who don't believe in Christ Jesus know........
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Normally the issue really becomes for many including those of other religions, is the Divinity of Jesus Christ. If we so question His Divinity, we then must ask ourselves. To deny His Divinity do we really believe Him to be who He says He is?
There is much to write on what you have posted and I could go on, but I sense that the language and possible some of the scripture might be a stumbling block to being fully understood, so I'll stop here to allow you to pray, look at scripture, in regards to what I've written so far and then respond.
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Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions [that were] under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
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Jesus is not only the "only way" he IS the way.
We are supposed to be receiving life through Christ not trying to have better death.
Is the term saved about dying or living?
1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard [him] ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Romans 5:15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
Romans 5:18 Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
2 Corinthians 5:19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.
Romans 11:32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
We are supposed to be receiving life through Christ not trying to have better death.
Is the term saved about dying or living?
1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard [him] ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Romans 5:15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
Romans 5:18 Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
2 Corinthians 5:19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.
Romans 11:32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
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To "Christ4Ever"
O, friend, I wanted just to posed how Great our Lord is. .
the wrath of God is wrath of God . .
And his ways are unknown at all!
The main point is Jesus;
Not hell or heaven but Jesus!
Don't you think that He is more than we know and think?
O, friend, I wanted just to posed how Great our Lord is. .
the wrath of God is wrath of God . .
And his ways are unknown at all!
The main point is Jesus;
Not hell or heaven but Jesus!
Don't you think that He is more than we know and think?
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So much more brother and we'll have eternal life to get to know Him!
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Hallelujah Praise The LORD!
Acts 4
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by Him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the Stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other Name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
JESUS CHRIST
John 14
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
John 10
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the Door of the sheep.
John 109 I am the Door: by Me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Glory to The King of kings and Lord of lords Jesus Christ the Alpha and the Omega
Revelation 22
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Acts 4
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by Him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the Stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other Name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
JESUS CHRIST
John 14
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
John 10
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the Door of the sheep.
John 109 I am the Door: by Me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Glory to The King of kings and Lord of lords Jesus Christ the Alpha and the Omega
Revelation 22
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
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If there was a nother way, why would we need Jesus? Why would we need a savior if we can do it ourselves?
John 14:6 Jesus *said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
Act 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."
John 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
John 14:6 Jesus *said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
Act 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."
John 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
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Jesus said in John 14:6, "I am the Way, the Truth, the Life. Nobody comes to the Father except by me." There is no other way, the only way is Jesus Christ. All other religions, ideologies, and philosophies are dead ends. I'm fully convinced that Jesus tells the truth, and there is no other way.
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Very sad my brother. Yet we have some either out of curiosity who make there way here to TJ, who also bring along their unbelief, or in truth almost as bad, a professing Christian with the diluted belief that the One True God can be reached by whatever means (religion/belief) they happen to grow up in as long as they are faithful to that particular belief. For all those that don't answer an emphatic "Yes" the hope is that one day either here at TJ, or somewhere by someone who God may move into their lives, they will finally be able to know the truth as we do.
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Very sad my brother. Yet we have some either out of curiosity who make there way here to TJ, who also bring along their unbelief, or in truth almost as bad, a professing Christian with the diluted belief that the One True God can be reached by whatever means (religion/belief) they happen to grow up in as long as they are faithful to that particular belief. For all those that don't answer an emphatic "Yes" the hope is that one day either here at TJ, or somewhere by someone who God may move into their lives, they will finally be able to know the truth as we do.
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I voted for the third choice, but here's my view point: people can believe in what ever religion they want, and if they live a good, moral life (living in the natural law), then they can be saved.
