Is the modern church a lie?

[Brother Paul]

These days in America, when someone says church the first thing to pop into someone's head is those big name televangelists on TBN, the 10,000 member mega-church on the rich side of town, big cathedrals with huge crosses and stained glass windows. We live in a generation that has embraced the lie that is Christianity, we get all dressed up and fancy on Sunday morning, we carry our nice big bibles, we sit through church, and then come monday we're back to partying with Pharaoh. We live in a tolerant generation where preaching on sin is taboo, we want to hear about how much God can bless us, how He can give us big cars and good jobs, but when it comes to personnal commitment we turn our necks. The bible says the kingdom of God is like a treasure that a man finds in a field, and when he finds it he goes and sells all he has to buy the field so he can have that treasure.

That is what the kingdom of God is, it is the free gift that will cost you everything, including your life. But that is where the church in America stops. Statistics say %80 of Americans claim to be born again Christians, statistics also say that the average church going evangelical gives less than %1 of his or her income to their church, the average pastor in America prays for only 5 minutes every day. Is it fair to say that the church is a lie? The word of God says Satan comes as an angel of light, a beutiful and magnificent angel, and this angel has infiltrated the church to the point where millions of people in this "Christian" nation are being deceived by the lies of false teachers and religion.

No it is not fair to say the church is a lie when the church is defined as the body of genuine believers born of His Spirit, but there are liars within the church (within any and every church) and denomination). People and leaders that have a form of godliness but deny the real power of God. I call them make-believers. Jesus warned us, Paul warned us, and I see them all around. But having said that we must not throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water. There will always be tares among the wheat and you can only know them by their fruit (Matthew 25). Examine this chapter and see who are sheep and who are goats. Even the five unwise virgins were IN THE Church doing all the churchianity stuff but Christ says "I NEVER knew you" (Romans 8:9). You be real and make your salvation sure and leave the rest to Him.
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[PloughBoy]

The institutional church and “The Congregation that Jesus said He will build are two different entities “.

International Standard Version
I tell you that you are Peter, and it is on this rock that I will build my congregation, and the powers of hell will not conquer it.
He did not say He will build two. Their is only one body of Christ and that body has No mixtures of tares in it. There is only one Congregation that Christ is building and there are no tares in it. Now the church that man has organized and built has a lot of tares in it and a few of God’s wheat [His children] is hanging out in there. But hopefully Jesus will return quickly and “snatch” them out of there. Because they are getting greatly contaminated, in most. Remember Lot, that righteous man!

 

[Butch5]

To the point that ThatGuy made in his original post about the corruption of the Church I point out the number one belief among modern Christians, the Heavenly Destiny doctrine. There is nothing in the Scriptures that says people go to Heaven when they die. If the primary belief has been corrupted, what other beliefs have been? I agree we should pray for those who are ill-informed. However, I have found that many are ill-informed because of arrogance and/or stubbornness to consider if their doctrinal beliefs really do align with the Scriptures. I see, time and time again, Christians shown plainly that what they believe is wrong and yet they refuse to question it. It happens all the time.

 

[Enxu]

If you put your faith in men who claim to be of God you will very likely be deceived and possibly have your faith shipwrecked. If we stopped following after men and follow ONLY Jesus Christ none of the problems you’ve mentioned would happen.

 

[Enxu]

Just look at how deeply deceived the entire nation of Israel is when Jesus first came to die for our sins. Despite being chosen by God, despite their firm belief that they are a nation blessed by God, their teachings were so far away from the truth they didn’t even recognise that Jesus was their promised Messiah! The devil was so successful in propagating false doctrines to the Israelites that their religious leaders wouldn’t accept Jesus because He didn’t fit into their false doctrine of the Messiah! The Israelites in Jesus’ days expected their Messiah to free them from Roman rule, but the real Messiah Jesus came to be put to death on the cross by Romans as an atonement for sin! That is how far away they fell from the truth!

The same tragedy is happening to professing Christianity today and another Jesus and another Gospel is being preached and most Christians have no discerning spirit to tell the difference! Jesus’ mortality and His real mortal death is being subtly denied by false teaching of the trinity which misleads people into believing Jesus remained immortal as God when He walked the earth as a man! So to the trinitarians Jesus only appeared to be mortal and He only appeared to have died a mortal death, but in reality He was actually an immortal God! So their doctrine subtly teaches that Jesus didn’t really die since He remained immortal God, therefore our sins remained unatoned and our faith is useless! But that is a lie straight from the pits of hell and started with gnostic heresies that denied Jesus as truly coming in the flesh! Apostle John warned about this denial of Jesus’ mortality and said it came from the spirit of antichrist! Stop relying on men for truth or you will fall into the same deception as them!

 

[spiriteddove05]

If you put your faith in men who claim to be of God you will very likely be deceived and possibly have your faith shipwrecked. If we stopped following after men and follow ONLY Jesus Christ none of the problems you’ve mentioned would happen.

Amen!!

 

[spiriteddove05]

Just look at how deeply deceived the entire nation of Israel is when Jesus first came to die for our sins. Despite being chosen by God, despite their firm belief that they are a nation blessed by God, their teachings were so far away from the truth they didn’t even recognise that Jesus was their promised Messiah! The devil was so successful in propagating false doctrines to the Israelites that their religious leaders wouldn’t accept Jesus because He didn’t fit into their false doctrine of the Messiah! The Israelites in Jesus’ days expected their Messiah to free them from Roman rule, but the real Messiah Jesus came to be put to death on the cross by Romans as an atonement for sin! That is how far away they fell from the truth!

The same tragedy is happening to professing Christianity today and another Jesus and another Gospel is being preached and most Christians have no discerning spirit to tell the difference! Jesus’ mortality and His real mortal death is being subtly denied by false teaching of the trinity which misleads people into believing Jesus remained immortal as God when He walked the earth as a man! So to the trinitarians Jesus only appeared to be mortal and He only appeared to have died a mortal death, but in reality He was actually an immortal God! So their doctrine subtly teaches that Jesus didn’t really die since He remained immortal God, therefore our sins remained unatoned and our faith is useless! But that is a lie straight from the pits of hell and started with gnostic heresies that denied Jesus as truly coming in the flesh! Apostle John warned about this denial of Jesus’ mortality and said it came from the spirit of antichrist! Stop relying on men for truth or you will fall into the same deception as them!

Amen!! preach it sister!!

 

[PloughBoy]

Just look at how deeply deceived the entire nation of Israel is when Jesus first came to die for our sins. Despite being chosen by God, despite their firm belief that they are a nation blessed by God, their teachings were so far away from the truth they didn’t even recognise that Jesus was their promised Messiah! The devil was so successful in propagating false doctrines to the Israelites that their religious leaders wouldn’t accept Jesus because He didn’t fit into their false doctrine of the Messiah! The Israelites in Jesus’ days expected their Messiah to free them from Roman rule, but the real Messiah Jesus came to be put to death on the cross by Romans as an atonement for sin! That is how far away they fell from the truth!

The same tragedy is happening to professing Christianity today and another Jesus and another Gospel is being preached and most Christians have no discerning spirit to tell the difference! Jesus’ mortality and His real mortal death is being subtly denied by false teaching of the trinity which misleads people into believing Jesus remained immortal as God when He walked the earth as a man! So to the trinitarians Jesus only appeared to be mortal and He only appeared to have died a mortal death, but in reality He was actually an immortal God! So their doctrine subtly teaches that Jesus didn’t really die since He remained immortal God, therefore our sins remained unatoned and our faith is useless! But that is a lie straight from the pits of hell and started with gnostic heresies that denied Jesus as truly coming in the flesh! Apostle John warned about this denial of Jesus’ mortality and said it came from the spirit of antichrist! Stop relying on men for truth or you will fall into the same deception as them!

What Is the Doctrine of the Trinity?.
Just for clarity , if I can have permission to clarify the true “Doctrine of the Trinity” for edification of what it means. Not to say it is truth, but what it really means.