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It has been a little over two years since we did this together: Let us on “Talk Jesus” read at the same time “The Book of Revelations” 3/2020

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' ... Unto Him that loved us,
and washed us from our sins in His Own blood,
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father;
to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.
Amen.'
(Rev 1:5b-6)

' Behold, He cometh with clouds;
.. and every eye shall see Him,
.... and they also which pierced Him:
...... and all kindreds of the earth
........ shall wail because of Him.
Even so, Amen.
(Rev 1:7)

'I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the ending,
saith the Lord,
Which is, and
.. Which was, and
.... Which is to come,
The Almighty.'
(Rev 1:8)

Praise God!
 
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@PloughBoy, @Mister, @Jesus_is_LORD, @Christ4Ever, @MedicBravo, @Twistie.

' ... Unto Him that loved us,
and washed us from our sins in His Own blood,
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father;
to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.
Amen.'

* This is being spoken to those who have been made 'kings and priests' unto the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. I do not identify myself with this description, for I have not been made a 'king' or a 'priest' . So this is not addressed to me? Am I right? :confused:

Have I picked up and read a letter addressed to someone else?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
Yes, I was ordain in the very early 1980s into The Ministry, assistant, Pastored, lectured, in conventions, and among pastors only sessions, Now retired over 10 years. and a "author". So many writings of personal lectures and outlined sermons I cannot count. My privy, "Reformed Biographies" and "ROME", CAESARS, Popes, "church history" mainly The REFORMED and How we got there, Kings, and Queens, "SPAIN, ENGLAND and The SCOTS. and "John CALVINS history and Luther and many more, their lives were to me Fascinating and I am not relating to what they taught, and a TASTE of The Dutch, "The Synod of Dort" Dordrecht. and also "The Great AWAKENING". What a exciting trip this was for me. even the creating of The 1611 Authorized Version of the Bible.

This too is a "Gift from GOD' to be able to do. and the time and mind to do. "I have been a Boy Scout, a Explorer, I have played as leader on High school varsity football team and never game out of the game won sportsman's award, song in choirs lead solo singer in my graduation, UAW Plant Steward, Plant general Manger, a Martial Artist, full contact, own horses, motorcycles, Muscle cars, even purchase a Semi Truck, and learn how to drive by the time I got IT HOME, I learn how to drive it from a book! Military machinery. my wife and Dad thought I was crazy. LOL I skied the Rockies, The Canadian Rockies with a back pack on, and not seen one person in hours even a ski patrol. I have swim in the "Caribbean" so far out you could not see the Island behind you.

And one thing they all have in common, I meant death in every event, The Mountains, the cars, The motorcycle, The Swimming, the horses. The Full contact each one should have been dead Until one day I realized something is trying to kill me! I have even been mistaken by person contracted to kill, and they tied me up, and pointed a "357" Magnum and pulled the harmer back and the man said kill him! it was a mistake of identity. It was a "Italian" who put out the contract. And they got the wrong person who was me, and I did not fear. in all my events I came so close to such deaths even coming inches of coming off a mountain to certain death ,Sking at a high rate of speed. I have been lost hunting in a great forest where Bear and wild cats roam, and have fell int o Quick sand alone and by my self and darkness have arrived and me alone in the Swamps. and I have been hit by a car about 3-5 times since a kid. :eyes: oh yes a semi truck too!:sob:

Now, that is only a portion what I call "The Abundant LIFE"! And I have used all things in the Understanding The Calling of GOD in my life. :pensive: It also helped lead me to "GOD" and many times I knew it had to be an ANGEl that came to my Rescue. I knew there was ANGELS watching over me! Beyond the SHADOWS of the DOUBT, There is A GOD and I have beheld His ANGELS! for there is no way in the world I made it out! I even had a 2000 pound horse fall on me backwards and the only thing held us was a fence between me and the ground the fence held both of us in The air he was laying on me and I was laying on the wire fence, I knew I was dead! the next week that horse brother fell on another and killed him dead! These horses looked like twins, Big Horses, that could pull a freight train. And in 1977 I was Born of GOD, and I was powered up , but I had a lot to learn. So I read that book from from front to back the 1st. month I don know how many times, less than a week to read the whole book! I was going to remember every word in there. I could tell you the book whole story by heart!

I could sing "AMAZING GRACE that saved a WRETCH Like me" my mother said, to me, your daddy sure like to hear you sing "Amazing GRACE", I once was Lost but Now I am found" and I can sing that song entitled "Amazing Grace, My Mother, was So SWEET AND KIND"! I remember sitting on her knees"! those one of those "Negro SpiritualS" "I Eulogize, my fathers funeral, they all claim I was not going to be able to get through it, but I did, they said that boy love his daddy. he was not perfect, but my mother would tell me when I got mad with him my dad, she would always tell me in tears in her eyes, _____________ that is your father, you got to love to him, and do what your father has told you to do. that man loves you! I could not do what other kids did, I Could not go where the others went, I couldn't ride my bike where the others rode, after school I had to come home to watch my younger brother, I had to cook the Corn bread and have it hot by time my mother got home and I had to make sure the house had been vacuum, the kitchen clean and our rooms clean. I could not go out with the others on Friday nights, He let me play high school football, and I heard him tell my mama I got to take this job, for my son might get hurt playing football and he might have to go the hospital. My mother taught me how to Love my DADDY! and many things I knew he did, all of them I knew, and he told me about my youngest son, what ever you do do not let that boy, see you do anything, he will tell on you! LOL, my dad was right, He is about 31, he will let you know he is going tell, I found out, sometimes with all my kids, at different times, if we had a great snow and warm, I would go to there school and take them out and we would go Sledding on the sled hills and we would have the hills all to ourselves. And the 1st. time I took the youngest boy out, I told him not to tell mother I came and got him and his sister 1 year older than him out of school, He told me he was going tell! But he enjoyed the hills too, but he was going to tell on me!:sob:

I don't trust him! And when we played video games he would cheat! Because I would beat him, he start crying and tell his Mama on me!:sob: I don't trust him. he is smart now. But he don't like me! I beat him in everything, When he went to university, come back here talking about those "Philosophers" I ate him up. He did n't like that! And when I voted for Donald trump he was furious! I could not believe it. And trump benefited him.

Thinking I am plain baptist, a Pentecostal, word of Faith, a universalist, or Lutheran. I am a REFORMER, {calvinistic"} we eat up "Philosophers" for breakfast!
He start calling those names out and those "Philosophical thoughts" he did not know that stuff was old, especially to those of The Reformed faith" And schooled "Jonathan Edwards" G. Campbell, Morgan, Martin Lloyd Jones, Not knowing that at 1st. that "THEOLOGY" was the Queen of All SCIENCES and Philosophy was her hand maiden.

Now days Theology is not real "Theological Thought" but only "religious ideas" and its only goal is religion and the ways people think about GOD and not who he is.

you see I am long winded.
Thank-you for sharing a bit more of yourself my brother. I will say only this. And yet your youngest will mourn the greater when you have gone home!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Hello @Mister,

I have re-read your entries this morning, and wonder where you are at present with your reading,
if you are continuing with the book of Revelation, or have moved on ?
Greetings @complete. Yes I have read the Revelation of Jesus Christ a few times as well as listened to it a couple. I will return at the appointed time, maybe once more this week. I just finished Isaiah as well, and marching along in Jeremiah. I do note in my YLT that there are bridges between Isaiah and Revelation.

Isaiah 60:16-22 and Revelation 22:5 in speaking of God being the light of His kingdom for the sun and moon have been wiped away. God will complete His circuit!

Isaiah 47:7-11 and Revelation 18:2-10 in speaking of how the mistress of kingdoms does fall without warning in a short manner of time and the earth mourns for her. It is a great deception this world and its luxury. I see its temptations and I thank God He has separated me! Sometimes I get an inkling to want to touch it again, but Father keeps me!

Additionally, I believe I have been protected by the words of our Lord Jesus in Rev 3:11 'Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.' These words came to me when I (I do believe) encountered this type of spirit the other day, a spirit that tries to take your crown. I am sure I met it face to face. In fact I now know that I have encountered this before and I have no way to avoid such encounters in the future. But in knowing these words He has positioned me to prevail (Hosea 4:6). Let us all grow closer in the knowledge of God and bow at His holy throne in our Lord Jesus.
'John to the seven churches which are in Asia:
Grace be unto you, and peace,
from Him Which is, and Which was, and Which is to come;
and from the seven Spirits which are before His throne;
And from Jesus Christ, Who is the faithful witness,
and the first begotten of the dead,
and the prince of the kings of the earth ... .'
(Revelation 1:4-5a)
true :sob::joy:
* John, speaking to the seven churches, sends greetings from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, and from the seven Spirits which are before the throne of God. I am caught by the way in which He refers to them:-

* God is spoken of as:- 'He Which Is, ' and, 'Which was', and, 'Which is to come'.
* The Lord Jesus Christ is referred to as:- 'The Faithful Witness', and, 'The First Begotten of the dead', and, 'The Prince of the kings of the earth'.
* The seven Spirits which are before the throne of God (Rev. 3:1; Rev.4:5; Rev.5:6)

* Each one of these points of description are a study in themselves, aren't they? Each one would take us on a journey of discovery, if we were to follow them through into the depths of the Scriptures. They are to my eye, like steam engines in a railway station, each fired and watered and ready for a journey, inviting you to climb aboard and take the ride they have to offer, into the usage that the Holy Spirit has made of each one, discovering their origins, and the story along the way, to the point at which you entered the train. You would disembark at your point of entry, with a wealth of detail, which would enhance your understanding of the words these opening verses of Revelation chapter one introduce, and be filled with worship and praise to those so described.
I do not doubt this.

Thank you for your concern and reaching out.

Blessings of Yah be with you, dear sister.
 
@PloughBoy, @Mister, @Jesus_is_LORD, @Christ4Ever, @MedicBravo, @Twistie.

' ... Unto Him that loved us,
and washed us from our sins in His Own blood,
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father;
to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.
Amen.'

* This is being spoken to those who have been made 'kings and priests' unto the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. I do not identify myself with this description, for I have not been made a 'king' or a 'priest' . So this is not addressed to me? Am I right? :confused:

Have I picked up and read a letter addressed to someone else?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

@complete ,I just love your questions.
They are so filled with a need for understanding married with a love for God's WORD, topped with an attitude of Grace.

So let's start with the the question, "who is the letter addressed to?"

So this is from Revelation 1:5-6 and we know that John was writing to the churches.
Likely the letter would go to the head of the churches who would share this message with the rest of the church.

One translation says "Kings and Priest"
another (NIV) says "Kingdom and Priest"
another ( NLT) says "Kingdom of Priest"
another (ASV) says "to be a Kingdom, to be Priest"


A King is one who rules, and in the cannon of scripture it seems like Jesus is our Prophet, King and Priest.
There are scriptures that point to us being priest and prophets to the world, but not really being a King, as
Christ is the King. Therefore the word Kingdom seems like the better translation. Kingdom meaning,
those who are under the rule of Christ.

A prophet communicates to the people on behalf of God, and a priest goes to God on behalf of the people.

We know that women such as Anna were prophets and the ministry of being a priest is one given to all believers.

The Priesthood of All Believers
"As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen
and precious, you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual
house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God
through Jesus Christ."
1 Peter 2:4-5

So Peter tells us that we are all part of this holy Priesthood in Christ Jesus.

"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
-Galatians 3:28

Now look at the scripture above, the same scripture tells us that we are all one on
Christ. Look at the things he is contrasting.
They are classes or division that the society
has set up. Jews are better than Gentiles, Free people are better than slaves, or Males
are better than Females. And Paul says, "No".
They did have the Jewish laws prior,
but Paul tells them that in Christ there is no class system where certain individuals
receive certain privileges that others don't because of a group (sex, wealth, freedom status)
they belong too. Paul tells us that we are all equal and entitled to the same inheritance
through Christ Jesus.


Some are called to special ministries, not everyone is called to be a pastor,
not everyone is called to the ministry of casting out demons, not everyone
is called to be a Sunday school teacher, not everyone is called to be work with
children. -- Yet while we all have different callings, no class or group is restricted
or excluded from being called as God sees it as appropriate. We are all one in Christ,
and the division that will be put up will be from man and not from God.
In heaven the only separation on rewards will be what you did for Christ, not what group
you belonged to.

With Love:love:
-WNL
 
@PloughBoy, @Mister, @Jesus_is_LORD, @Christ4Ever, @MedicBravo, @Twistie.

' ... Unto Him that loved us,
and washed us from our sins in His Own blood,
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father;
to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.
Amen.'

* This is being spoken to those who have been made 'kings and priests' unto the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. I do not identify myself with this description, for I have not been made a 'king' or a 'priest' . So this is not addressed to me? Am I right? :confused:

Have I picked up and read a letter addressed to someone else?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
I know this might be a hard pill to swallow, but it is true, Many things in the Bible especially when referring to us. "US" not them!

Kings and Priest, is a True statement "INDICATIVE", "DECREED" and ORDAIN" by GOD. meaning it is done, it will be done, no one or thing can stop it. This all happen before The foundation of The WORLD! before Future existed, before worlds angels before heaven before all creation. So sometimes in translations and the language of GOD. note: no king or priest can come into office not until his or hers "CORONATION" the Crowning. "types and SHADOWS" of that is to come! I am not going to explain like i have done hundreds of times. aAbout the Old testament different "types of shadows" of that which is to come. it is written there for all to see after they read and The UNVEILING is unveiled by The PARAKLETOS. and Not the mortals mind, GOD has Declared it to be that way!

But we as a people has sort out many devices and sorted man to translate with his mortal finite mind instead of TRUSTING GOD to do as he said he would do.

Throughout history GOD's people has a strong taste and a great taste for the many flavors of "REGURGITATION" and will fight to defend that cause with vengeance. {you talk to him Moses, and come back and tell us what he said].

This stuff is simple as reading a book as long as a habit of "regurgitation' has Not set up a "STRONGHOLD" in your thoughts camp out in your soul. And when you read, the Bible, those thoughts creep up and pester and squeeze within the guidance of "The PARAKLETOS".

Now i can be blunt; but many will become angry.

ok, i will do a test, to see how many hidden horns will rise.

We are not A kingdom of kings and Priest yet! but will be "INDICATIVE" we are still are sinners and ain't no good thing in us even our thoughts are self righteous!

we are still polluted liars and deceivers. haters jealous as can be.

We Still have on the garments of flesh, giving out ungodly counsel and thinking, we are "Sanctified and holy" in the wrong sense that we think, and not realizing we are "saved' := "being saved" will be saved" another indicative. a decree is still active. all of that:

Many still think they made a decision to choose GOD. And such things and thoughts breeds more sin and where sin abounds, grace abounds that much more. we are sinning more and also we are receiving more grace.

That means our LIGHT is not increasing but decreasing. And we cannot tell that it is. but God Always has A Remnant According to GRACE in every era, another type of "Types & SHADOWS. just like the bible said a veil is still over their eyes when they read the Old TESTAMENT. Most Worldly and unconverted people do not read the BIBLE Gods people do. So who eyes, the veil is covering? i am not referring to "SALVATION" so please do not get it mix up and place words into my mouth.

We have not become a Priest or a king yet. we do not have on, our kingly or priestly dress, we have not had , our "CORONATION" ceremony, The Bema seat has not taken place! GOD has left us everything to explain these things in the OPEN , in the Bible, the old the new, on the Television set, the kings and queens ceremonies on earth. the kings table in the old testament. " All things work together for the good to those who ..ff." "but the PARAKLETOS brings these things all together for us and reveals."

it seems most christians have no order of things, that is to come to pass. It is almost they do not have a story concerning our redemption and purpose in them! It is a order to things. Most christians are all over the place, no order what so ever about redemption in none of the areas. they are over here and over there over here, God is a GOD of ORDER even in the purpose of redemption. This story does not go as it goes. People are not saved as it goes. it is a order to the things of GOD, and disorder breeds thinking disorder.

Maybe many just have not been in leadership. but GOD order it to be, Husbands head of households, the head of the wife, men instruct your children, wife take care of the home, take care of your husband and children and not the church not the pastors. Older women teach the young HOW TO LOVE [take care] their husbands and CHILDREN! and to deny yourself, spend wisely, if the wife wants to know anything ask the husband at home, TRUST GOD no matter what! because if your faith, is in your pastor your church your job and your intelligence. you are against The order of GOD! GOD has A ORDER! and it is plainly laid out. But the corruption is in the people, who do not stay in their lane!

How in the world someone else can be your guide, let the world be the world! An let your BIBLE be YOUR GUIDE no MATTER WHAT HAPPENS! And if You got a problem GO TO YOUR GOD! not a pastor church woman or man!

And many claim they have a Personal relationship with GOD, Somebody LYING!
 
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'And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;
to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.'
(Rev 1:6)

Hello there,

I do not think that this study is for me: for I foresee that I will be constantly sounding a discordant note. I believe that the book of Revelation was written for the Jew, and it's natural place comes at the end of the gospels. That is why I questioned you concerning Revelation 1:6.

I do not believe it was written for the Church which is the Body of Christ, which is the subject of the later epistles of Paul, (Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon) .

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
@PloughBoy, @Mister, @Jesus_is_LORD, @Christ4Ever, @MedicBravo, @Twistie.

'And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;
to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.'
(Rev 1:6)

Hello there,

I do not think that this study is for me: for I foresee that I will be constantly sounding a discordant note. I believe that the book of Revelation was written for the Jew, and it's natural place comes at the end of the gospels. That is why I questioned you concerning Revelation 1:6.

I do not believe it was written for the Church which is the Body of Christ, which is the subject of the later epistles of Paul, (Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon) .

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
I hear you, but if may say this, in Love for my sister in Christ the Anointed of GOD, Our Father, told us, through His Son, The Unveiling of the Christ. To at this Point, "READ" and let "GOD" do the Rest. I wish i could speak to you in The ghetto vernacular to get to the point and you would not miss the point. And one time I told you, for a moment STOP using the Word "Church" and use another word such as "Congregation" or ASSEMBLY" and it seems you were offended.:pensive: and those were The Very words Jesus spoke and He Never use The Word Church, which back then when He walked, The correct spelling was "circe", if they spoke in english. and in "Constantine" era, There were":Many" "Circes" you name it, they had it, The SUN GOD, the Moon GOD, The Wash God, a god for every day of the week and every god had a church, and so "CONSTANTINE" also set up a building a"CIRCE in Jesus name. And now the internet and mostly all information about this, has become so polluted now you can never in this era come to the knowledge of This truth, and every christian who has a computer, goes to the internet now thinking they have arrive to biblical truths and not knowing they have been, Punctuated polluted with half and partial truths. And the christian jumps off the Porch, and flap their wings, Buzzing around singing, I know , I know, i know, and I must fly unto all the corners of the world, singing I know I know, i know.

I know these words seems harsh, but it is true and spoken in the common vernacular.

Many of time, in pass years, i told GOD i refused to say anything to your children, They don't Listen, His response, "i know". Even my wife do not listen to me, His response, What make you think she is going to Listen to you, "She won't listen Too Me! :eyes: I brust out Laughing!!

And many times i have refused to speak out, I have refused to teach, i have refused to Preach, I have refuse to sing, i have refused to comment or instruct my brothers and sisters in Christ and have Curse GOD out! :sob: I ain't going to do it! I ain't reading your Book no more, they ain't reading it, why should I read it!:sob:

I am telling you the Truth! Some how, before the Day is over, I have read about 5 books of the Bible, and Daylight is coming up from The Horizon. I could See, The SUN coming as it it was Rising creeping above the clouds. And it come to me, I been reading all night and forgot i said I was not going to read His word. Many of times it was like that. No matter what I told Him, i was not going to do. he didn't say anything, what i said i was not going to do, I would end up doing it and not knowing i was doing it.:eyes: "Finally years latter i got the message" and stop crying for him to take this burden off of me. What burden? "The BURDEN of LIGHT"!:eyes:

And He has not said a word. I have said, I ain't going to preach, But somehow, I end up on A "Podium' or somehow, ask to say something, and that FIRE start burning, I GOT To let it OUT! I WOULD WAKE UP, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, Preaching in my dreams so Powerful It would make me raise up straight in the Bed!~When I went to Some places, even Dinners, the Pastors, or Leaders would ask me to say something, And T!HAT FIRE START BURNING, and when I would get through even in My children Schools meetings! It be Jews, Greeks, Chinese, Japanese, Europeans, Russians, Blacks, whites, old , young, then the moderator, or the master of ceremonies would say, we can Home now! because, church is over and before The choir even sing or took a offering! "I had to be A "JEREMIAH" i be crying I ain't going!:sob: My wife would say, if we go would you please don't say nothing.:sob: why you always have to be the "Celebrity". I put on my dress clothes, and then i think, And I tell her, i think I will stay at home, because i don't think I can hold my peace. And she would go by herself. she would come back looking puzzle and say, people be saying were is your Husband, why do everybody fight for your attention! I don't care where we go, If that Fire start Burning! I don't care in a house of "Millionaires" CEO's dinners servicing "Escargot" and "Caviar" or a group of beggars, when that Fire stat burning. i GOT to get it out! And it gets Quiet! "somehow GOD makes room" My wife would say every room we go in, we must show ID, you just walk in and nobody say nothing to you, you do not have to show nothing!:sob: The rich do not know how to take me! They be waiting, on their servants to bring them water, i get up and get my own. even go back into the kitchen. get my food. and smile.:sob: Those rich folks be looking at me especially those wives with all of those diamonds on. they don't say nothing, even in their thoughts. But "who is this"! especially i am black. but polish, by GOD for the Occasion.

Just read and put it you and let GOD do the Rest.:pensive: A lot of christians always want to do things for GOD, they had me like that in the beginning in 1977, but something wrong, if felt like the church had put chains on me, I was a person that always felt kind of free, and then when The Holy Ghost came in me I felt more free, then that church start putting chains on me, all those Shackles on me. the freedom I had felt in Christ was slipping away. I kept reading my BOOK and My Eyes and vision became much clearer.

I shook those Shackles! telling me, if you leave from here, you will be leaving god, I told those Pastors when I leave here, I am Talking GOD WITH ME! Because, He Promise, that He Would never Leave me and I am a big enough of A Fool to believe Him! And I left! And they looked me up! I ain't giving you no more of my money, they got lawyers and female doctors husband and wife minister teams must give 20% of their income, and show the paycheck stubs or they cannot preach or sit in the church Pulpit! this stuff, practice was going around everywhere! It had become a "Plague"!:eyes:

So my sisters, what Am I saying, just read, and stop trying to come to a understanding by your own means, and let GOD do the WORK.
And be careful of the ways of religious minded men and do not take up their practices. Neither Their ways. "GOD"S WORD will ACCOMPLISH where GOD SENDS it" {there is a lot of things done, behind religious, leadership doors]:pensive: All, not some, All. "The Vicar of Christ" small level, big level."Cardinals" pay to receive their office of Ministry. Read your Bible and let God do the Rest. He is able.

If i can remember a old story, i think it went something like this: The servant: "lord" you said you would not give me more than i can bear, i cannot bear all of this", The lord said back: "I didn't tell you to carry all of that":eyes: A lot of that stuff, we pick up, we pick up on our own":eyes::sob:

Complete we need you. and need you to read and come back and "Fellowship with us". and even taking some of the mud in your life, and by making spittle, and then you rub it, into our eyes that we may see too.:relieved: " I am not ashamed of The Gospel According to Jesus, The Christ of The LIVING GOD":pensive: is one of our mottos.
 
@PloughBoy said:-
I hear you, but if may say this, in Love for my sister in Christ the Anointed of GOD, Our Father, told us, through His Son, The Unveiling of the Christ. To at this Point, "READ" and let "GOD" do the Rest. I wish i could speak to you in The ghetto vernacular to get to the point and you would not miss the point. And one time I told you, for a moment STOP using the Word "Church" and use another word such as "Congregation" or ASSEMBLY" and it seems you were offended
Hello @PloughBoy,

I use the word 'Church', because it is used in regard to the Body of Christ in Revelation 1:22-23:-

'And hath put all things under His feet,
and gave Him to be the head over all things
to the church (ekklesia - or a called out company), which is His body,
the fulness of Him
that filleth all in all.'
(Eph 1:22)

* Perhaps I should have said, ' ... the called-out company , which is His Body, the fulness of Him that filleth all in all'.
* You have said nothing to cause me offence, and I certainly do not want to offend you.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
Our Lord and Head.
Chris
 
@PloughBoy,
Complete we need you. and need you to read and come back and "Fellowship with us". and even taking some of the mud in your life, and by making spittle, and then you rub it, into our eyes that we may see too.:relieved: " I am not ashamed of The Gospel According to Jesus, The Christ of The LIVING GOD":pensive: is one of our mottos.

Hello again, @PloughBoy,

Thank you for your kindness. I would love to.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
Hello @PloughBoy,

I use the word 'Church', because it is used in regard to the Body of Christ in Revelation 1:22-23:-

'And hath put all things under His feet,
and gave Him to be the head over all things
to the church (ekklesia - or a called out company), which is His body,
the fulness of Him
that filleth all in all.'
(Eph 1:22)

* Perhaps I should have said, ' ... the called-out company , which is His Body, the fulness of Him that filleth all in all'.
* You have said nothing to cause me offence, and I certainly do not want to offend you.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
Our Lord and Head.
Chris
And may I say; if you did not have the man made transliteration word "ekklesia" lexicon form. but only "The Bible" that was before the lexicon, now what?
Early Modern
Bishops' Bible of 1568
And I say also vnto thee, that thou art Peter, and vpon this rocke I wyll buylde my congregation: And the gates of hell shall not preuayle agaynst it.

Coverdale Bible of 1535
And I saie to ye: Thou art Peter, & vpo this rocke wil I builde my cogregacion: and ye gates of hell shal not preuayle agaynst it.

Tyndale Bible of 1526
And I saye also vnto the yt thou arte Peter: and apon this rocke I wyll bylde my congregacion. And the gates of hell shall not prevayle ageynst it.

World English Bible
I also tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my assembly, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it.

Darby Bible Translation
And I also, I say unto thee that thou art Peter, and on this rock I will build my assembly, and hades' gates shall not prevail against it.

Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My Assembly, and [the] gates of Hades will not prevail against it;
Young's Literal Translation
'And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

NT Translations
Worrell New Testament
And I also say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My assembly, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

I know, many think i read someone else assessment on the word church and the word (ekklesia -or ecclesia) but they are wrong. I just read my regular bible, from front to back on a number occasions and i saw or notice that the word "church' in the New Testament, seen to not fit, with the old Testament meaning and explanation concerning the one people of GOD, known as "The CONGREGATION of GOD" and by chance every time i read the new testament my mind spoke "The Congregation of GOD" and I could see the Whole, not even thinking about, The Old Covenant and The New Covenant i saw the one people of GOD! Plainly like The Scales came off! then I investigated the words, by Hard Copy Books ancient BOOKS. And then I understood, and why. and when the word church was added to a Definition :eyes:

Like i said to many, i am not like other people, I am not like your pastors, i don't study like many is been know people to study. I don't investigate like you know people to investigate the text or other things . I'm kinda different, i don't care what it is. i am different in my approach, Martial Arts, Chess, Book reading patterns, in raising children, i learn different, and i know, it is not me. I even develop a way for my understanding of "ALGEBRA" problems in college. i could NOT understand it the common way.:pensive: I KEPT TAKING IT OVER AND OVER ,about 4 or 5 times Then it click, my way and with proof. The Professor would have me come up to the front and do problems and explain it. I could not do it the normal way of solving problems!

And my youngest son, counselors, for our township schooling system, said he could be only A high-lo driver when he grew up out high school, he wasn't smart enough.I knew this boy was smart because of our conversations at home. Then one time my wife and the kids went on vacation, and his aunt who was a high school teacher observe him. and said; "he is A Audible Learner" the only thing he needed was "lectures" he retained all knowledge spoken, So we knew now his weakness, and His strengths, He graduated from "University" and he thinks he is smarter than me. LOL!

Many do not understand that, what JESUS wants, we do not want, because we must deny ourselves and we are selfish Oriented people. My house, my car, my church, my ministry, and that is natural to us. the baby, my bottle, my toy, my doll, my chair, my pillow, my career, my god, my lord, my faith, my denomination, get the hint. "and When You Pray, you say; "Our FATHER" which are In HEAVEN" not the one on earth!:eyes: the one with the Red horns.

New International Version
“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”
New International Version
And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.


What are you saying PloughBoy; You are UNIQUE too! and different, and when we think gifts, the limited to the local assembly instead of THE WHOLE BODY "THE CONGREGATION' That will "OCCUPY" All "ETERNITY":eyes: those who have died in the ground and will be raised, There is One BODY One CONGREGRATION and every body is DIFFEREnt AND GIFTED for The BENEFIT of US ALL! CAN you imagine how many cells in a human Body? and all of The parts!

I am going to say it again, John Calvin said the problems with most Christians is, their view of "GOD" is to small!!
 
@PloughBoy, @Mister, @Jesus_is_LORD, @Christ4Ever, @MedicBravo, @Twistie.

It seems rather lonely here, with no one else contributing their thoughts.
Is nobody else reading along?
No one else got anything to share?
Or have you all moved on?

:confused:
I cant figure put how to follow this thread i get boggled n lost real easy I don't understand all I read if ya can understand what I mean
I've had much head trauma my brain got all rewired in all the bangs I guess

✌️Twistie

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@PloughBoy, @Mister, @Jesus_is_LORD, @Christ4Ever, @MedicBravo, @Twistie.

It seems rather lonely here, with no one else contributing their thoughts.
Is nobody else reading along?
No one else got anything to share?
Or have you all moved on?

:confused:

Thanks for checking in, I have not been reading much lately unfortunately.

Mostly been in the book of Psalms, but I was following the thread occasionally
to see if there was any points of insight to gain or moments to share.
 
Hello Jesus_is_LORD,

I had forgotten that there was a time set at the beginning of this project to begin discussing the book of Revelation, time given for everyone to read and have points for discussion to come back to the thread with and contribute. So have been disappointed to find that so little has been contributed. But It is yet to come!! :)

I feel the need to go back over what I have learned and refresh my mind on teaching I have received in order that I do not let it slip away. So intend to get down to some serious study during the coming Autumn and Winter months (God willing).

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris
 
Hello Jesus_is_LORD,

I had forgotten that there was a time set at the beginning of this project to begin discussing the book of Revelation, time given for everyone to read and have points for discussion to come back to the thread with and contribute. So have been disappointed to find that so little has been contributed. But It is yet to come!! :)

I feel the need to go back over what I have learned and refresh my mind on teaching I have received in order that I do not let it slip away. So intend to get down to some serious study during the coming Autumn and Winter months (God willing).

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris
Excellent,

I think I signed on to contribute because, well... It is the book of Revelation, so definitely interested.
And I've studied it in the past for hours.

However I think because I'm always doing my own study in the Bible as well as trying to increase my
prayer life, I've found it difficult to keep up with the commitment I made here due to those previous goals.

But I hope your study continues to be blessed and praying God will send more to partake in the study.
 
Update, concerning The Revelation "Read".

Still moving on by "unction" 9/30/2022
12. AMOS
The 1st 5 Chapters of the book of "AMOS", it seems it is all falling in place, mind, you it is not a study, but a just a simple "read" strange as it maybe., it seems a vivid picture is unravelling.

1. REVELATION.....(KJV NIV}
2. 1&2 Thessalonians (KJV)
3. Zechariah
4. Malachi
5. Daniel (KJV)
6. 1 Kings
7. James
8. Hosea
9. Re-read Chapter 12 Daniel
10. Reread Chapter 10 and Finish The Book of HOSEA.
11. Joel
12. Amos
1st. 5 Chapters, Morning 9/30/2022

Note; Now this is only a view of the Path the trail that I am traveling "concerning this Particular Read.." and Not my Study, my study at this time is "private", like many of you, Now, that time is when we spend with our Lord, in The meditation of the confounds of and within His Word. And in there we get our Strength from Him and our being.

PloughBoy
I am getting to think so many children of GOD, has been so drilled in "Studying: Bible verses and certain text of "Holy Scriptures" and have never learn how to just Read the bible and enjoy it. There are so many ways and avenues in it of studying it. But only one way of reading it. just like you set down and enjoy a Good book. We are not in school and have to make a book report at the end of the month or week and then get a grade.

it has to be my error of explanation on "READING" not studying it or "analyze" the book of "Revelation" just read it.

Let me say this, Satan is a powerful Foe, skilled BY "GOD" he is not ignorant. He Battles you even in our reading and studying. He is not weak, God place him here for our training. he is a Tactical Warrior", he and his army does not let up! If we are reading, we must pray for GOD to give us the tactics to read, If we are Studying we must pray about what we are studying and what tactics to use. We have to pray in every thing we do, and as the years go by, we learn what to pray about and how to pray in those events we are in. Especially in reading and in studying. In battle plans, you do not keep doing your battle approach the same way every time every time you out into the field!:sob: so in life, so in that which is SPIRitUAL, Bible Reading is "SPIRITUAL TOO!:sob: the more you do the better you become at it. Sometimes when i read, it gets hard, the i change the "TACTICS" and I read out "LOUD" and I break through> Sometimes i play music doing or before, Sometimes i might read a A Psalm 1st. Sometimes i know, i should not eat before I read.

Now ask me why, I DON'T KNOW WHY! it seems like a unction from "THE PARAKLETOS"! now I can hear you in the future saying "holy spirit":eyes: and i didn't that, then you said; "i means the same thing":sob:"he knew their thoughts"



That is why i mention at times the Bible is A WAR BOOK , it is a BOOK about WAR!. And when I do bring it up, people start screaming , yelling, breathing out threatenings! And like i have said since the beginning in The 70's, "we must not be reading the same book" and I read it again, :sob: I even look at the covering and introduction pages!:sob: and keep saying something is wrong.:sob: I could not put my finger on it.

I would document all the wars and the lyings, and all the deceptions and how God would get angry and kill everybody. I would document this stuff. and have reread the book over 100 times. and still see more corruption of his people and he would kill them and send armies against and even have THE ISRAELITES KILL ONE ANOTHER! no body talk about this and they will fight you if you bring it up!:sob: and i would remember that old pastor told me when i was spreading my wings, you be careful they will kill you for proclaiming TheTruth and so that you do not forget, that is, They Killed Jesus, his own people. he said: they will kill you, in many different kinds of ways, and if they cannot get to you, they will get to your family. Call themselves giviing honor to GOD.

And I remember when i was young, i remember when Dr. Martin Luther King jr. mention in one of his sermons; "men like me died violent deaths"! [that devil is going to ask GOD, I WANT to SIFT him LIKE wheat!]:relieved: that is scary.

So did all, most of the 12, and everybody that "John Calvin" taught at his college all of them died as "MARTYRS". all of them died violent deaths, carrying the Gospel.

The Devil do not want you to read it. and it is a good reason why, because he does not want you to remember: "lean not upon thy own understanding and TRUST GOD" And he will place in your mind the reason to not do it! And you cannot out think him, he is A skilled warriors and you cannot out debate him! he will win every time! "because when we are depending on our own understanding"

My update on My "Revelation" read. every thing is tying end.

1. REVELATION.....(KJV NIV}
2. 1&2 Thessalonians (KJV)
3. Zechariah
4. Malachi
5. Daniel (KJV)
6. 1 Kings
7. James
8. Hosea
9. Re-read Chapter 12 Daniel
10. Reread Chapter 10 and Finish The Book of HOSEA.
11. Joel
12. Amos
1st. 5 Chapters, Morning 9/30/2022
13. Amos finish
14. Obadiah 10/06/2022
15. Jonah 10/06/2022
16. Micah 10/06/2022

I will stress it again i am "READING" and not studying it. this has been a new way of Approach, and it makes since. everything is falling in to place.

King James Bible
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
NASB 1977
For God has shut up all in disobedience that He might show mercy to all. [nations]
 
I am getting to think so many children of GOD, has been so drilled in "Studying: Bible verses and certain text of "Holy Scriptures" and have never learn how to just Read the bible and enjoy it. There are so many ways and avenues in it of studying it. But only one way of reading it. just like you set down and enjoy a Good book. We are not in school and have to make a book report at the end of the month or week and then get a grade.

it has to be my error of explanation on "READING" not studying it or "analyze" the book of "Revelation" just read it.

Let me say this, Satan is a powerful Foe, skilled BY "GOD" he is not ignorant. He Battles you even in our reading and studying. He is not weak, God place him here for our training. he is a Tactical Warrior", he and his army does not let up! If we are reading, we must pray for GOD to give us the tactics to read, If we are Studying we must pray about what we are studying and what tactics to use. We have to pray in every thing we do, and as the years go by, we learn what to pray about and how to pray in those events we are in. Especially in reading and in studying. In battle plans, you do not keep doing your battle approach the same way every time every time you out into the field!:sob: so in life, so in that which is SPIRitUAL, Bible Reading is "SPIRITUAL TOO!:sob: the more you do the better you become at it. Sometimes when i read, it gets hard, the i change the "TACTICS" and I read out "LOUD" and I break through> Sometimes i play music doing or before, Sometimes i might read a A Psalm 1st. Sometimes i know, i should not eat before I read.

Now ask me why, I DON'T KNOW WHY! it seems like a unction from "THE PARAKLETOS"! now I can hear you in the future saying "holy spirit":eyes: and i didn't that, then you said; "i means the same thing":sob:"he knew their thoughts"



That is why i mention at times the Bible is A WAR BOOK , it is a BOOK about WAR!. And when I do bring it up, people start screaming , yelling, breathing out threatenings! And like i have said since the beginning in The 70's, "we must not be reading the same book" and I read it again, :sob: I even look at the covering and introduction pages!:sob: and keep saying something is wrong.:sob: I could not put my finger on it.

I would document all the wars and the lyings, and all the deceptions and how God would get angry and kill everybody. I would document this stuff. and have reread the book over 100 times. and still see more corruption of his people and he would kill them and send armies against and even have THE ISRAELITES KILL ONE ANOTHER! no body talk about this and they will fight you if you bring it up!:sob: and i would remember that old pastor told me when i was spreading my wings, you be careful they will kill you for proclaiming TheTruth and so that you do not forget, that is, They Killed Jesus, his own people. he said: they will kill you, in many different kinds of ways, and if they cannot get to you, they will get to your family. Call themselves giviing honor to GOD.

And I remember when i was young, i remember when Dr. Martin Luther King jr. mention in one of his sermons; "men like me died violent deaths"! [that devil is going to ask GOD, I WANT to SIFT him LIKE wheat!]:relieved: that is scary.

So did all, most of the 12, and everybody that "John Calvin" taught at his college all of them died as "MARTYRS". all of them died violent deaths, carrying the Gospel.

The Devil do not want you to read it. and it is a good reason why, because he does not want you to remember: "lean not upon thy own understanding and TRUST GOD" And he will place in your mind the reason to not do it! And you cannot out think him, he is A skilled warriors and you cannot out debate him! he will win every time! "because when we are depending on our own understanding"

My update on My "Revelation" read. every thing is tying end.

1. REVELATION.....(KJV NIV}
2. 1&2 Thessalonians (KJV)
3. Zechariah
4. Malachi
5. Daniel (KJV)
6. 1 Kings
7. James
8. Hosea
9. Re-read Chapter 12 Daniel
10. Reread Chapter 10 and Finish The Book of HOSEA.
11. Joel
12. Amos
1st. 5 Chapters, Morning 9/30/2022
13. Amos finish
14. Obadiah 10/06/2022
15. Jonah 10/06/2022
16. Micah 10/06/2022

I will stress it again i am "READING" and not studying it. this has been a new way of Approach, and it makes since. everything is falling in to place.

King James Bible
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
NASB 1977
For God has shut up all in disobedience that He might show mercy to all. [nations]
I say Love on Him for He knows us spend time n enjoy getting to Know Him
Abba is so loving n gentle n funny He has a sense of humor
Idk personally I spend more time with Abba then the world
Twistie
 
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