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It is dark out here, I don't know about the rest of the World, But the USA the Majority are in a DEEP Pit! and they admit it.

It should be no surprise to any born again believers.......

1Jn 5:19 We know that we are children of God. We know that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. (NiRV)

Then what should we do?

Php 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
Php 2:16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.

What are the consequences of seeing the world in its present condition?

2Pe 2:5 if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;
2Pe 2:6 if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
2Pe 2:7 and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked
2Pe 2:8 (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard); (ESV)

If we can not get people to read the Bible we can make them read or lives as a "living epistle" known and read by all men!

2Co 3:1 Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as some do, letters of recommendation to you, or from you?
2Co 3:2 You yourselves are our letter of recommendation, written on our hearts, to be known and read by all.
2Co 3:3 And you show that you are a letter from Christ delivered by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
 
Sorry I have no idea, what that means, and I have no attention of pleasing man. I am not interested in stimulating a soul either. Sound like some type of Religious philosophy. I' m not interested in that. You stimulate them, I'm going to scare them!:p
Well you are quite a scary bloke PloughBoy, :mad:
 
Well you are quite a scary bloke PloughBoy, :mad:
LOL!
(Jude 1:23).
"And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh."

New International Version
save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear--hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.

New Living Translation
Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. Show mercy to still others, but do so with great caution, hating the sins that contaminate their lives.

Have you ever, been a fisherman? Well a grew up around the "Great Lakes", We, used to have some, Great Big Walleyes, they had I very hard mouth, but real good eating, And we had , Steelhead, Pike, Sturgeon, Chinook Salmon, Coho Salmon, I. Think you understand what I am saying, Different bait and hook, for different kind of fish, And some fish, you had to set the hook once the bite! "Behold I will make you fisher of men"! In this ocean of men you got all kinds of "fish"! Oh yes , and depends on what you are fishing for in the Great Lakes, you had to have the right rod! Skilled! Then some fish, just. Jumps on the hook, and you reel them in, Others, when you hook'em, you have to drag' em, because they want to put up a fight! You snatch them out the fire!



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LOL!
(Jude 1:23).
"And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh."

New International Version
save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear--hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.

New Living Translation
Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. Show mercy to still others, but do so with great caution, hating the sins that contaminate their lives.

Have you ever, been a fisherman? Well a grew up around the "Great Lakes", We, used to have some, Great Big Walleyes, they had I very hard mouth, but real good eating, And we had , Steelhead, Pike, Sturgeon, Chinook Salmon, Coho Salmon, I. Think you understand what I am saying, Different bait and hook, for different kind of fish, And some fish, you had to set the hook once the bite! "Behold I will make you fisher of men"! In this ocean of men you got all kinds of "fish"! Oh yes , and depends on what you are fishing for in the Great Lakes, you had to have the right rod! Skilled! Then some fish, just. Jumps on the hook, and you reel them in, Others, when you hook'em, you have to drag' em, because they want to put up a fight! You snatch them out the fire!



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I haven't been fishing for years, it's the cutting heads off and tearing their mouths getting the hooks out that put me off. That and the fish smell on my clothes. The fishing for men, I enjoy.
 
I haven't been fishing for years, it's the cutting heads off and tearing their mouths getting the hooks out that put me off. That and the fish smell on my clothes. The fishing for men, I enjoy.


Sounds like you did a spot of sea fishing Trevor.

I love fishing but am limited now, I found a place last year where the guy would help me set up and later put items back in my car. I always went fishing with the Lord, love nature and outdoors. Not been this year due to covid, not worth buying a licence now, so no fishing this year.

I have done sea fishing years ago, I couldn"t now, so stick to lake fishing, barbless hooks, very small compared to sea fishing, cate for the fish and put them back.

It's always nice to be used by the Lord, to catch men and women but I never use a rod, I treat them in love so don't tend to hook them, that's the Holy Spirits job.

Bless you
 
Sounds like you did a spot of sea fishing Trevor.

I love fishing but am limited now, I found a place last year where the guy would help me set up and later put items back in my car. I always went fishing with the Lord, love nature and outdoors. Not been this year due to covid, not worth buying a licence now, so no fishing this year.

I have done sea fishing years ago, I couldn"t now, so stick to lake fishing, barbless hooks, very small compared to sea fishing, cate for the fish and put them back.

It's always nice to be used by the Lord, to catch men and women but I never use a rod, I treat them in love so don't tend to hook them, that's the Holy Spirits job.

Bless you
I remember digging for lug worms, ugly looking creatures, but I never had the desire to actually fish. :confounded:
 
I remember digging for lug worms, ugly looking creatures, but I never had the desire to actually fish. :confounded:


They are ugly creepy things and they bite, but God saw they were good. ;)

Genesis 1:20-25 (NKJV)
20 Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens."
21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth."
23 So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind"; and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Bless you
 
How dark is it now? Are we being kept in the dark pertaining to what is really happening all over this world. How far have censorship gone? How could one know? And are we living in a world of "The Speculations of The Citizens" of this world? Those who have grown up with the beginning of "The Information Highway" from the start, beginning with "data processing" with the input of "punch cards" and watched it grow, can notice the curve of the pen and the mental graph of the temperture of censorship very easily and see the direction of the flow. "It is getting real dark out here". Many do not know or understand this, The Front door, i believe is closed and the back door of history are closing very tightly for a good reason. so that you cannot tell that that front door is closed, and you are caught in the middle with do escape. and there is only "One Blesseth Hope"!
 
Hi all.
While it's important to recognize what is happening and discuss it here, It's also equally important as Followers of Christ
to make ourselves available to our little world around us, to ask what people think, and where there at, not only with the
elections coming up, but with the COVID-19 pandemic and the "Black Lives Matter" riots, and demonstrations, news media coverage, and the
way life around us is changing in major ways.

Being older and retired, I prayed and asked God for a new ministry, as the one I was involved in went way. I couldn't go to the gym, so I started walking, and as I did, the Holy Spirit revealed to me my new ministry - simply walking !!I just walk around my neighborhood 3 or 4 times a day, and I have established some new relationships, and people talk to me,
just general stuff to begin with, but we do talk, and I'm there when they start feeling the stress and anxiety many are feeling,
or already feel it, and are starting to feel safe enough to open up.

We don't know where any of this is going, but those of us who are prepared can reach out to those who are not.

God bless you all, as we reach out to the lost together
My name is OLIGOS
 
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There is deep deceit in almost every avenue of media. Lets see how much coverage and with what slant will be afforded the RNC convention this upcoming week. Now we are conducting an election and 100% accountability is not the foremost priority in what will be easily be the most contentious and divisive election ever in the history of The United States. This rivals the pre-civil war election in possible depth of its divisive effect.

The truth is out there but it is only the common people what to hear about it. I can only hope that we are wise enough to choose the leaders who respect the truth most and by extension respects us the most as well. :broken_heart:
 
We really don't have the ability to choose the future, but as believers we don't have to worry about the "VOTERS CHOICE or what the NEWS MEDIA is saying.
God is greater than any of what is going on, and His plan will always succeed above man's plans and schemes.

Our place in all of this is to believe in His POWER, and to reach out to those around us, by being there for them, and bring them comfort with our words of HOPE while they are worried and afraid.
From what I read here, many Christians are afraid too, instead of believing in the Lord, and speaking confidently to those God brings to us, to speak of Gods hope for mankind.
Get over your fears and concerns by believing on the LORD, and be excited about His plans of VICTORY !!!

God Bless.
My name is OLIGOS
 
We really don't have the ability to choose the future, but as believers we don't have to worry about the "VOTERS CHOICE or what the NEWS MEDIA is saying.
God is greater than any of what is going on, and His plan will always succeed above man's plans and schemes.

Our place in all of this is to believe in His POWER, and to reach out to those around us, by being there for them, and bring them comfort with our words of HOPE while they are worried and afraid.

God Bless.
My name is OLIGOS
Seems sensible but I get a twinge of conscience as I reflect on 6,000,000 Jews and now see prejudiced and cruel mob rule unchallenged and a national balance sheet red beyond any hope reconciliation a condition that precluded the advent of the Nazis in Germany. I see the same tactics being used by Antifa and BLM as the brown shirts of The Nazi party. Exactly the same for the exact same political purpose of intimidation Antifa is fascist.

As far as choosing a future we will choose it. Remember we have a history so does everyone else. We have made choices and we are responsible for them, all of them.
 
Hi all.
While it's important to recognize what is happening and discuss it here, It's also equally important as Followers of Christ
to make ourselves available to our little world around us, to ask what people think, and where there at, not only with the
elections coming up, but with the COVID-19 pandemic and the "Black Lives Matter" riots, and demonstrations, news media coverage, and the
way life around us is changing in major ways.

Being older and retired, I prayed and asked God for a new ministry, as the one I was involved in went way. I couldn't go to the gym, so I started walking, and as I did, the Holy Spirit revealed to me my new ministry - simply walking !!I just walk around my neighborhood 3 or 4 times a day, and I have established some new relationships, and people talk to me,
just general stuff to begin with, but we do talk, and I'm there when they start feeling the stress and anxiety many are feeling,
or already feel it, and are starting to feel safe enough to open up.

We don't know where any of this is going, but those of us who are prepared can reach out to those who are not.

God bless you all, as we reach out to the lost together
My name is OLIGOS
Hi all.
While it's important to recognize what is happening and discuss it here, It's also equally important as Followers of Christ
to make ourselves available to our little world around us, to ask what people think, and where there at, not only with the
elections coming up, but with the COVID-19 pandemic and the "Black Lives Matter" riots, and demonstrations, news media coverage, and the
way life around us is changing in major ways.

Being older and retired, I prayed and asked God for a new ministry, as the one I was involved in went way. I couldn't go to the gym, so I started walking, and as I did, the Holy Spirit revealed to me my new ministry - simply walking !!I just walk around my neighborhood 3 or 4 times a day, and I have established some new relationships, and people talk to me,
just general stuff to begin with, but we do talk, and I'm there when they start feeling the stress and anxiety many are feeling,
or already feel it, and are starting to feel safe enough to open up.

Asa bonus to asking for a new ministry, God gave me a 2nd ministry, as I was invited on another forum to be a "MODERATOR"
Hi all.
While it's important to recognize what is happening and discuss it here, It's also equally important as Followers of Christ
to make ourselves available to our little world around us, to ask what people think, and where there at, not only with the
elections coming up, but with the COVID-19 pandemic and the "Black Lives Matter" riots, and demonstrations, news media coverage, and the
way life around us is changing in major ways.

Being older and retired, I prayed and asked God for a new ministry, as the one I was involved in went way. I couldn't go to the gym, so I started walking, and as I did, the Holy Spirit revealed to me my new ministry - simply walking !!I just walk around my neighborhood 3 or 4 times a day, and I have established some new relationships, and people talk to me,
just general stuff to begin with, but we do talk, and I'm there when they start feeling the stress and anxiety many are feeling,
or already feel it, and are starting to feel safe enough to open up.

And as a bonus, to my prayer request to God for a new ministry, He had the administrators of another forum ask me to be a MODERATOR, and gave me a new topic all my own to post my opinions on, and to moderate
2 ministries for one prayer. Pretty nice !!!

We don't know where any of this is going, but those of us who are prepared can reach out to those who are not.

God bless you all, as we reach out to the lost together
My name is OLIGOS


We don't know where any of this is going, but those of us who are prepared can reach out to those who are not.

God bless you all, as we reach out to the lost together
My name is OLIGOS
 
Seems sensible but I get a twinge of conscience as I reflect on 6,000,000 Jews and now see prejudiced and cruel mob rule unchallenged and a national balance sheet red beyond any hope reconciliation a condition that precluded the advent of the Nazis in Germany. I see the same tactics being used by Antifa and BLM as the brown shirts of The Nazi party. Exactly the same for the exact same political purpose of intimidation Antifa is fascist.

As far as choosing a future we will choose it. Remember we have a history so does everyone else. We have made choices and we are responsible for them, all of them.

Well @hopefulson my friend and brother in Christ, God has chosen the future before this world was created, and is the only one who won't be surprised by the out come of EVERYTHING, because it's His choice, whether we believe all I said or not.
God is "SOVERIGN", which means in TOTAL CONTROL of EVERYTHING, including everything your concerned about.

John 17:16 says, "We are in the world, not of the world." We, my friend, are separate from the worlds problems and should act separately, by being at peace and reaching out to those who are not ,and struggling.

Relax my friend and brother in Christ, and know you are safe in His arms of love.
Phil 4:6-7, "Be anxious for nothing, but by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests (out of fear) be known to God,
and the peace of God which surpasses all comprehension, will guard your heart and minds in Christ Jesus."

My name is OLIGOS
 
Good to have you.

Before a deep discussion and in my view deep is the important word. I would like to post a deep point of view from my all time favorite preacher. This is his word for today. Thanks for considering.

“I Indeed. . . But He”

I indeed baptize you with water…but He…will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Matthew 3:11

Have I ever come to the point in my life where I can say, “I indeed…but He…”? Until that moment comes, I will never know what the baptism of the Holy Spirit means. I indeed am at the end, and I cannot do anything more— but He begins right there— He does the things that no one else can ever do. Am I prepared for His coming? Jesus cannot come and do His work in me as long as there is anything blocking the way, whether it is something good or bad. When He comes to me, am I prepared for Him to drag every wrong thing I have ever done into the light? That is exactly where He comes. Wherever I know I am unclean is where He will put His feet and stand, and wherever I think I am clean is where He will remove His feet and walk away.

Repentance does not cause a sense of sin— it causes a sense of inexpressible unworthiness. When I repent, I realize that I am absolutely helpless, and I know that through and through I am not worthy even to carry His sandals. Have I repented like that, or do I have a lingering thought of possibly trying to defend my actions? The reason God cannot come into my life is that I am not at the point of complete repentance.
“He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.” John is not speaking here of the baptism of the Holy Spirit as an experience, but as a work performed by Jesus Christ. “He will baptize you….” The only experience that those who are baptized with the Holy Spirit are ever conscious of is the experience of sensing their absolute unworthiness.
I indeed” was this in the past, “but He” came and something miraculous happened. Get to the end of yourself where you can do nothing, but where He does everything. From My Utmost for His Highest Updated Edition

Bible in One Year: Psalms 110-112; 1 Corinthians 5






WISDOM FROM OSWALD CHAMBERS

Am I getting nobler, better, more helpful, more humble, as I get older? Am I exhibiting the life that men take knowledge of as having been with Jesus, or am I getting more self-assertive, more deliberately determined to have my own way? It is a great thing to tell yourself the truth.

from The Place of Help, 1005 R


 
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We have the freedom To vote for every leader we have. And every vote Does count. We Should be aware of what's going on in this world around us. Not to be engulfed in it -- but to be aware. Make our individual choices depending on who we are and where we live.
 
Do we really know what it is to be, 'blessed with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ.' This world crucified our Lord Jesus Christ so there are no expectations other than in Him and being obedient to my Lord. There has never been a more opportune time for the gospel before His return, where we will soon meet Him in the air.
 
Do we really know what it is to be, 'blessed with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ.' This world crucified our Lord Jesus Christ so there are no expectations other than in Him and being obedient to my Lord. There has never been a more opportune time for the gospel before His return, where we will soon meet Him in the air.
That is extremely wise, correct and in good order pointing directly to ( The fear of The Lord ) Fear meaning reverent awesome veneration. As you noted He alone holds the substance of reality and alone is the Author of the Truth. The world is as you describe it is a source of falsehood and deception. Thank You.
 
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