Jews and Muslims, will they be saved?

[LifeinJesus]

Will they have one last chance to accept Jesus as messiah? I know Muslims believe Him to be a messiah, they don't deny Him but they don't believe He is the son of God. So I'm always unsure about this one. Whereas with Jews - some have openly rejected Christ Jesus as the messiah and still believe the messiah has not come yet.

What makes me feel bad is how they actually believe in God. They only have to go one extra step to be saved.

Perhaps we should pray that they see Christ is the light and the ONLY way to God.

The next question is, will Hellfire await those who reject Christ but obey the 10 commandments and worship God? I don't think so, Christ spoke of turning away those who deny Him. Not throwing them into Hell. Christ also speaks of turning others away but no mention of Hell is ever added which leaves me to believe that there's another place where souls wonder forever - never being accepted into heaven. Then Christ speaks of those who sin and don't repent - He speaks of Hell for them.

 

[Boanerges]

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.


Muslims do not worship the God of Abraham but instead bow to a pagan deity named allah (the moon God).
No one- Jew, Muslim or anyone else shall be saved by any other means than coming to Christ.
Jesus said it best:

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

[Hekuran]

Muslims would be horrified to think that they would They believe that Allah is the creator of the heavens and the earth. If he were a moon good he would have created himself.

Allah is simply the Arabic word for God. Arabic speaking Christians and Arabic Bibles speak use the word Allah to speak of the Christian God.

 

[LifeinJesus]

I have met Christians who call God Allah which means God in Arabic, although Muslims apply it as the name for God.


"Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."


This I knew. But I wonder what happens to Jews and Muslims who don't accept Christ but obey the 10 commandments?

 

[jiggyfly]

I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters, [fn] so that you will not feel proud and start bragging. Some of the Jews have hard hearts, but this will last only until the complete number of Gentiles comes to Christ. And so all Israel will be saved. Do you remember what the prophets said about this? "A Deliverer will come from Jerusalem, [fn] and he will turn Israel [fn] from all ungodliness. And then I will keep my covenant with them and take away their sins." [fn] Romans 11:25-27

 

[Boanerges]

Muslims would be horrified to think that they would They believe that Allah is the creator of the heavens and the earth. If he were a moon good he would have created himself.

Allah is simply the Arabic word for God. Arabic speaking Christians and Arabic Bibles speak use the word Allah to speak of the Christian God.

That is a deception of the highest order and many simply do not have the facts on this issue. Billions of souls are at stake here.
Go to the biblicalbelievers biblical archeology page and look up "moon god". Belwo is the text from that website but if you go there you will see an actual picture of the stone idol "allah".

Allah - the Moon God

The Archeology of the Middle East

The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.
The reader must know that Ismael was a Hebrew.

Archaeologists have uncovered temples to the Moon-god throughout the Middle East. From the mountains of Turkey to the banks of the Nile, the most wide-spread religion of the ancient world was the worship of the Moon-god. In the first literate civilization, the Sumerians have left us thousands of clay tablets in which they described their religious beliefs. As demonstrated by Sjoberg and Hall, the ancient Sumerians worshipped a Moon-god who was called many different names. The most popular names were Nanna, Suen and Asimbabbar. His symbol was the crescent moon. Given the amount of artifacts concerning the worship of this Moon-god, it is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria. The cult of the Moon-god was the most popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Akkadians took the word Suen and transformed it into the word Sin as their favorite name for the Moon-God. As Prof. Potts pointed out, "Sin is a name essentially Sumerian in origin which had been borrowed by the Semites. "

In ancient Syria and Canna, the Moon-god Sin was usually represented by the moon in its crescent phase. At times the full moon was placed inside the crescent moon to emphasize all the phases of the moon. The sun-goddess was the wife of Sin and the stars were their daughters. For example, Istar was a daughter of Sin. Sacrifices to the Moon-god are described in the Pas Shamra texts. In the Ugaritic texts, the Moon-god was sometimes called Kusuh. In Persia, as well as in Egypt, the Moon-god is depicted on wall murals and on the heads of statues. He was the Judge of men and gods. The Old Testament constantly rebuked the worship of the Moon-god (see: Deut. 4:19;17:3; II Kngs. 21:3,5; 23:5; Jer. 8:2; 19:13; Zeph. 1:5, etc.) When Israel fell into idolatry, it was usually the cult of the Moon-god. As a matter of fact, everywhere in the ancient world, the symbol of the crescent moon can be found on seal impressions, steles, pottery, amulets, clay tablets, cylinders, weights, earrings, necklaces, wall murals, etc. In Tell-el-Obeid, a copper calf was found with a crescent moon on its forehead. An idol with the body of a bull and the head of man has a crescent moon inlaid on its forehead with shells. In Ur, the Stela of Ur-Nammu has the crescent symbol placed at the top of the register of gods because the Moon-god was the head of the gods. Even bread was baked in the form of a crescent as an act of devotion to the Moon-god. The Ur of the Chaldees was so devoted to the Moon-god that it was sometimes called Nannar in tablets from that time period.

A temple of the Moon-god has been excavated in Ur by Sir Leonard Woolley. He dug up many examples of moon worship in Ur and these are displayed in the British Museum to this day. Harran was likewise noted for its devotion to the Moon-god. In the 1950's a major temple to the Moon-god was excavated at Hazer in Palestine. Two idols of the moon god were found. Each was a stature of a man sitting upon a throne with a crescent moon carved on his chest. The accompanying inscriptions make it clear that these were idols of the Moon-god. Several smaller statues were also found which were identified by their inscriptions as the "daughters" of the Moon-god. What about Arabia? As pointed out by Prof. Coon, "Muslims are notoriously loath to preserve traditions of earlier paganism and like to garble what pre-Islamic history they permit to survive in anachronistic terms."

During the nineteenth century, Amaud, Halevy and Glaser went to Southern Arabia and dug up thousands of Sabean, Minaean, and Qatabanian inscriptions which were subsequently translated. In the 1940's, the archeologists G. Caton Thompson and Carleton S. Coon made some amazing discoveries in Arabia. During the 1950's, Wendell Phillips, W.F. Albright, Richard Bower and others excavated sites at Qataban, Timna, and Marib (the ancient capital of Sheba). Thousands of inscriptions from walls and rocks in Northern Arabia have also been collected. Reliefs and votive bowls used in worship of the "daughters of Allah" have also been discovered. The three daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat are sometimes depicted together with Allah the Moon-god represented by a crescent moon above them. The archeological evidence demonstrates that the dominant religion of Arabia was the cult of the Moon-god.

In Old Testament times, Nabonidus (555-539 BC), the last king of Babylon, built Tayma, Arabia as a center of Moon-god worship. Segall stated, "South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations." Many scholars have also noticed that the Moon-god's name "Sin" is a part of such Arabic words as "Sinai," the "wilderness of Sin," etc. When the popularity of the Moon-god waned elsewhere, the Arabs remained true to their conviction that the Moon-god was the greatest of all gods. While they worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca, the Moon-god was the chief deity. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the Moon-god.

This is what made it the most sacred site of Arabian paganism. In 1944, G. Caton Thompson revealed in her book, The Tombs and Moon Temple of Hureidha, that she had uncovered a temple of the Moon-god in southern Arabia. The symbols of the crescent moon and no less than twenty-one inscriptions with the name Sin were found in this temple. An idol which may be the Moon-god himself was also discovered. This was later confirmed by other well-known archeologists.

The evidence reveals that the temple of the Moon-god was active even in the Christian era. Evidence gathered from both North and South Arabia demonstrate that Moon-god worship was clearly active even in Muhammad's day and was still the dominant cult. According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the Moon-god was Sin, his title was al-ilah, i.e. "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods. As Coon pointed out, "The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God." The Moon-god was called al- ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times. The pagan Arabs even used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle had Allah as part of their names.

The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Prof. Coon goes on to say, "Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being."

This fact answers the questions, "Why is Allah never defined in the Qur'an? Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?" Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.

In effect he said, "Look, you already believe that the Moon-god Allah is the greatest of all gods. All I want you to do is to accept that the idea that he is the only god. I am not taking away the Allah you already worship. I am only taking away his wife and his daughters and all the other gods." This is seen from the fact that the first point of the Muslim creed is not, "Allah is great" but "Allah is the greatest," i.e., he is the greatest among the gods. Why would Muhammad say that Allah is the "greatest" except in a polytheistic context? The Arabic word is used to contrast the greater from the lesser. That this is true is seen from the fact that the pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped. This "Allah" was the Moon-god according to the archeological evidence. Muhammad thus attempted to have it both ways. To the pagans, he said that he still believed in the Moon-god Allah. To the Jews and the Christians, he said that Allah was their God too. But both the Jews and the Christians knew better and that is why they rejected his god Allah as a false god.

Al-Kindi, one of the early Christian apologists against Islam, pointed out that Islam and its god Allah did not come from the Bible but from the paganism of the Sabeans. They did not worship the God of the Bible but the Moon-god and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat. Dr. Newman concludes his study of the early Christian-Muslim debates by stating, "Islam proved itself to be...a separate and antagonistic religion which had sprung up from idolatry." Islamic scholar Caesar Farah concluded "There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews." The Arabs worshipped the Moon-god as a supreme deity. But this was not biblical monotheism. While the Moon-god was greater than all other gods and goddesses, this was still a polytheistic pantheon of deities. Now that we have the actual idols of the Moon-god, it is no longer possible to avoid the fact that Allah was a pagan god in pre-Islamic times. Is it any wonder then that the symbol of Islam is the crescent moon? That a crescent moon sits on top of their mosques and minarets? That a crescent moon is found on the flags of Islamic nations? That the Muslims fast during the month which begins and ends with the appearance of the crescent moon in the sky?

CONCLUSION

The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.

 

[RJ]

I have met Christians who call God Allah which means God in Arabic, although Muslims apply it as the name for God.


"Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."


This I knew. But I wonder what happens to Jews and Muslims who don't accept Christ but obey the 10 commandments?

Who is saved and who isn't saved is up to God, but he has made it very clear that it is through "The Good Shepard" and/ or the "Gatekeeper", his son Jesus Christ; how and when he does that we will truly never completely know.

In the meantime, there most pressing issue is to accept and believe in God's gift of Grace in this life and now!

God himself said that obeying the "Ten Commandments" or anything else of the "Old Law" is inefficient for your salvation and will only kill you spiritually! The simple truth here is that if the "Law" is going to save you, you must do it perfectly each and every moment of your life and do it 24/7. If you miss doing anyone of God's laws, just one time, you have failed in your attempt to gain your salvation. Added to this, is the other simple truth is that we can do nothing to gain our salvation, it has to be founded on the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ!

 

[Hekuran]

moon god

The Koran says "Adore not the sun and the moon, but adore Allah, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve." 41:37

Prof Coon's statement with a bit of context.

The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God, but early in Arabian history the name became a general term for god, and it was this name that the Hebrews used prominently in their personal names, such as Emanu-el, Isra- el, etc., rather than the Ba'al of the northern semites proper, which was the sun. Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being.
(Carleton S. Coon, Southern Arabia, (Washington, D.G. Smithsonian, 1944) p. 399).​

That looks like foul play to me.

 

[hischildaswell]

As Muslims and Jews No they will not! That would be to call Jesus a liar.
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[David777]

What an incredible answer.

Mr Boanerges, what an amazing answer. I struggled with how Islam dealt with the messianic prophecies in Isaiah, etc.

I did not know that Islam was an extrapolation of a more ancient God. I was wrong in thinking it originated with thier prophet.

I wonder what the Islamic World would think about what you wrote?

Thankyou for the information, this could come in handy.

 

[Hekuran]

Islam is not an extrapolation of a more ancient god. That is anti-Muslim propaganda. Spreading this kind of disinformation about Islam goes a long way to discredit our efforts to witness to the Way, the Truth and the Life.

 

[Boanerges]

The sect of Allah was old when Mohamed began to spread it.
You and I will have to disagree 100%.
Any man without Christ is a lost man.
Speaking the truth in love is the way to set folks free.

 

[Hekuran]

It is just not good enough to agree to disagree. This is mendacious and damaging. There is not a scrap of evidence to link Allah to a Pagan moon god. Making these kinds of false claims about Islam makes Christians look deceitful and stupid. Hardly a good starting point for witnessing to the truth.

Do you see in the complete paragraph that I pasted from Professor Coon that the Hebrew "El" comes from the same root as "Il" and "Ilah". Let's hope you are not suggesting that the God of Israel is also a pagan moon god.

Studies in the anthropology of ... - Google Books

Even if I cannot convince you, Boanerges, I hope that this reply is clear enough to put others off swallowing this rot.

 

[Boanerges]

I take no offense at what seems close to slanderous accusations from you my friend. I did and will post solid archeological evidence to back my claim.

It is just not good enough to agree to disagree. This is mendacious and damaging.
I am sorry you feel this way.
There is not a scrap of evidence to link Allah to a Pagan moon god.
I already presented you with a lot of data. If you choose to ignore it that is you decision.
Making these kinds of false claims about Islam makes Christians look deceitful and stupid. Hardly a good starting point for witnessing to the truth.
Again, I think you are misinformed. I cetainly beleive it to be true so and I cannot base an "honest discussion" with anyone based of the incorrect assumption that the idol Allah has any relation to the God of Israel. Implying that those who disagrees with you are looking "stupid and deceitful" in no way mirrors Christ in your discourse.
Do you see in the complete paragraph that I pasted from Professor Coon that the Hebrew "El" comes from the same root as "Il" and "Ilah". Let's hope you are not suggesting that the God of Israel is also a pagan moon god.

Studies in the anthropology of ... - Google Books

Even if I cannot convince you, Boanerges, I hope that this reply is clear enough to put others off swallowing this rot.

The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre- Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre- Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. The hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.

So, just using the historical record, “Allah” is not related to the ancient Babylonian culture that created the Tower of Babel. Indeed, many of the roots of Islam seem to be found in the pantheon of deities associated with the mythology of the Arabian Peninsula. Archaeology has uncovered temples to the moon god dating back to ancient times. In ancient Syria and Canna, the Moon-god Sin was usually represented by the moon in its crescent phase. At times the full moon was placed inside the crescent moon to emphasize all the phases of the moon.

A temple of the Moon-god has been excavated in Ur by Sir Leonard Woolley. He dug up many examples of moon worship in Ur and these are displayed in the British Museum to this day. Harran was likewise noted for its devotion to the Moon-god. In the 1950's a major temple to the Moon-god was excavated at Hazer in Palestine. Two idols of the moon god were found. Each was a stature of a man sitting upon a throne with a crescent moon carved on his chest . The accompanying inscriptions make it clear that these were idols of the Moon-god. Several smaller statues were also found which were identified by their inscriptions as the "daughters" of the Moon-god. What about Arabia? As pointed out by Prof. Coon, "Muslims are notoriously loath to preserve traditions of earlier paganism and like to garble what pre-Islamic history they permit to survive in anachronistic terms."

In Old Testament times, Nabonidus (555-539 BC), the last king of Babylon, built Tayma, Arabia as a center of Moon-god worship. Segall stated, "South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations." Many scholars have also noticed that the Moon-god's name "Sin" is a part of such Arabic words as "Sinai," the "wilderness of Sin," etc. When the popularity of the Moon-god waned elsewhere, the Arabs remained true to their conviction that the Moon-god was the greatest of all gods. While they worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca, the Moon-god was the chief deity. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the Moon-god.

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.



Always in Messiah’s amazing grace,

Steve Rowitt, Th.M., Ph.D

 

[Hekuran]

Read your evidence carefully. None of it links Islam to a moon god.

the person who edited Professor Coons original statement...

The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God, but early in Arabian history the name became a general term for god, and it was this name that the Hebrews used prominently in their personal names, such as Emanu-el, Isra- el, etc., rather than the Ba'al of the northern semites proper, which was the sun. Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being.​

...to make the argument...

As Coon pointed out, "The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God." The Moon-god was called al- ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times. The pagan Arabs even used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle had Allah as part of their names.

The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Prof. Coon goes on to say, "Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being."​

...was not making a mistake, it is deliberate deceit.

I am not slandering you, Boanerges. I am saying that this is wrong, and it is the kind of error that can have dangerous consequences.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Will they have one last chance to accept Jesus as messiah? I know Muslims believe Him to be a messiah, they don't deny Him but they don't believe He is the son of God. So I'm always unsure about this one. Whereas with Jews - some have openly rejected Christ Jesus as the messiah and still believe the messiah has not come yet.

What makes me feel bad is how they actually believe in God. They only have to go one extra step to be saved.

Perhaps we should pray that they see Christ is the light and the ONLY way to God.

The next question is, will Hellfire await those who reject Christ but obey the 10 commandments and worship God? I don't think so, Christ spoke of turning away those who deny Him. Not throwing them into Hell. Christ also speaks of turning others away but no mention of Hell is ever added which leaves me to believe that there's another place where souls wonder forever - never being accepted into heaven. Then Christ speaks of those who sin and don't repent - He speaks of Hell for them.

LifeInJesus;
When you ask the question “Will they have one last chance to accept Jesus as messiah?” What exactly do you mean by that? When does this “one last chance” occur? As far as Islam believing that Jesus is the Messiah you are correct in that they define messiah as anointed one, as do we when we use the word messiah, however they do not accept Him as Christians know Him to be and that is as the Christ, Son of God. World religions will acknowledge Jesus, even as an enlightened man, but none, except Christianity will acknowledge His deity.
You next mentioned how badly you feel that they believe in God and only have to go that next step. However, since they don’t believe that Jesus is God, how can they profess to believe in the one true God when in the same breath they would deny Him? Even Satan believes in God!
You do have Messianic Jews who do acknowledge Jesus as the Christ and still practice the Jewish faith. Also, as far as obeying the 10 Commandments go; Christians, who have tried to spread the gospel, can attest to it. The “what if” question of obeying the 10 commandments is almost guaranteed to be brought up or “what if” the person has never done anything wrong. In other words someone who has never sinned. Except for Christ, I’m still waiting to meet someone who has obeyed and never broken those 10 commandments much less someone who has never sinned. Dear brother, remember we’re here to spread the gospel and not to deal with “What if”, but to deal with “What is”! Remember Romans 3:23, “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. Meaning Christian, Muslim, Jew alike has sinned. No exceptions! (Except one! You know who that One is!)
Now your concerns about people who are basically good (Mark 10:18), going to hell. Only God is good my brother! Concerned about them? You bet! Concerned to tell them about the gospel, even when they look at me weird, get angry, laugh, or just walk away? You bet! If understanding the significance of hell, and we having the gospel that may save them from it, and we don’t mention it! What kind of servants are we? Not very good ones, I can tell you that much. That it could cost us our jobs, our lives? It has cost many of our brothers and sister exactly that. I work for the state government in corrections and once had an inmate come up to me and ask me about the Bible. Upper management saw me and about a week later I was called into my boss’ office and told that it needed to stop or I could be fired! I told her, though it were to cost me my job, if anyone, anyone were to come up to me and want to know why I believe as I do, I will always talk to them, and I pray to be always ready to answer “Jesus, Jesus, Jesus” He’s who I believe in and where my hope lies! Neither you nor I will ever convince anyone. It is God who draws them to Jesus; John 6:44
Stay strong my brother. Don’t worry about what you have to say, read Mark 13:11 it can apply to you as well. Pray, and then pray some more. Be comforted, for you have a righteous, loving God, who would want none to perish 2 Peter 3:9, so keep praying for them. YBIC

 

[Boanerges]

Read your evidence carefully. None of it links Islam to a moon god.

the person who edited Professor Coons original statement...

The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God, but early in Arabian history the name became a general term for god, and it was this name that the Hebrews used prominently in their personal names, such as Emanu-el, Isra- el, etc., rather than the Ba'al of the northern semites proper, which was the sun. Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being.​

...to make the argument...

As Coon pointed out, "The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God." The Moon-god was called al- ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times. The pagan Arabs even used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle had Allah as part of their names.

The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Prof. Coon goes on to say, "Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being."​

...was not making a mistake, it is deliberate deceit.

I am not slandering you, Boanerges. I am saying that this is wrong, and it is the kind of error that can have dangerous consequences.

While I appreciate your heart it is more dangerous for these souls to remain Muslim and not know Jesus as Lord than to question the validity of a religion that produces death globally. If they meet Christ and become born again then they will be saved and will in fact be Christians. Outside of that there is no salvation.
Other than that I have to agree with the PhD's and Master's on this moon god issue. I will not be afraid to tell anyone that a religion where Christ is a minor prophet is no better than a Christ-less religion. Both can have only the same result- eternal damnation and both are certainly not of the Father who has woven Christ throughout the scriptures from Genesis to Revelations. Islam is a false religion with a Christless God calling people to perform works as the basis of their salvation- this is anti-Christ to the extreme.

 

[LifeinJesus]

LifeInJesus;
When you ask the question “Will they have one last chance to accept Jesus as messiah?” What exactly do you mean by that? When does this “one last chance” occur? As far as Islam believing that Jesus is the Messiah you are correct in that they define messiah as anointed one, as do we when we use the word messiah, however they do not accept Him as Christians know Him to be and that is as the Christ, Son of God. World religions will acknowledge Jesus, even as an enlightened man, but none, except Christianity will acknowledge His deity.
You next mentioned how badly you feel that they believe in God and only have to go that next step. However, since they don’t believe that Jesus is God, how can they profess to believe in the one true God when in the same breath they would deny Him? Even Satan believes in God!
You do have Messianic Jews who do acknowledge Jesus as the Christ and still practice the Jewish faith. Also, as far as obeying the 10 Commandments go; Christians, who have tried to spread the gospel, can attest to it. The “what if” question of obeying the 10 commandments is almost guaranteed to be brought up or “what if” the person has never done anything wrong. In other words someone who has never sinned. Except for Christ, I’m still waiting to meet someone who has obeyed and never broken those 10 commandments much less someone who has never sinned. Dear brother, remember we’re here to spread the gospel and not to deal with “What if”, but to deal with “What is”! Remember Romans 3:23, “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. Meaning Christian, Muslim, Jew alike has sinned. No exceptions! (Except one! You know who that One is!)
Now your concerns about people who are basically good (Mark 10:18), going to hell. Only God is good my brother! Concerned about them? You bet! Concerned to tell them about the gospel, even when they look at me weird, get angry, laugh, or just walk away? You bet! If understanding the significance of hell, and we having the gospel that may save them from it, and we don’t mention it! What kind of servants are we? Not very good ones, I can tell you that much. That it could cost us our jobs, our lives? It has cost many of our brothers and sister exactly that. I work for the state government in corrections and once had an inmate come up to me and ask me about the Bible. Upper management saw me and about a week later I was called into my boss’ office and told that it needed to stop or I could be fired! I told her, though it were to cost me my job, if anyone, anyone were to come up to me and want to know why I believe as I do, I will always talk to them, and I pray to be always ready to answer “Jesus, Jesus, Jesus” He’s who I believe in and where my hope lies! Neither you nor I will ever convince anyone. It is God who draws them to Jesus; John 6:44
Stay strong my brother. Don’t worry about what you have to say, read Mark 13:11 it can apply to you as well. Pray, and then pray some more. Be comforted, for you have a righteous, loving God, who would want none to perish 2 Peter 3:9, so keep praying for them. YBIC

Christ is the son of God not God himself. For God said to Jesus "You are my own begotten son of whom I am well pleased with."

In my latest thread, I prove that Islam does indeed teach that Jesus is the son of God but contradicts itself in the process proving that the Koran is not from God (as we knew, Christ is the only way). Muslims believe in the virgin birth, so they acknowledge that it was God who made the Christ - so they unknowingly admit Christ is the son, they don't however acknowledge that Christ was the first creation of God.

 

[Boanerges]

Christ is the son of God not God himself.

The bible declares otherwise.

 

[LifeinJesus]

The bible declares otherwise.

"And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." - Matthew 3:17

That's all that needs to be said. There is only one God. Christ is the son.

The Father - Creator
The Son - Messiah and Son (First creation of God)
Holy Spirit - What we all have

Everyone is from God but we aren't God Himself for we don't know what He thinks.

"Even the son doesn't know when the time will come."

This applies that the son (Jesus) has a separate mind from God like we do. Only God knows when the time of Judgement will come.