Lazarus and the Rich man...

[Sue D.]

Also. There's no need to make wise-comments regarding my knowledge. Or as you would say - or lack , there of.

Are you familiar with Paul's missionary journeys to Asia. Those cities can be seen on a map. And are also named i. First couple chapters in book of Revelation. There are seven listed. Their positive and negative characteristics.

 

[Rhema]

Its a secret.

Garee, it is my deepest hope and prayer that one day you might actually make sense.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

That is what I found.

Then what you found were two books that were in the canon.... Until... ???

Until they were removed. By whom?

it didn't meet the criteria for the scriptural cabin established by the church council.

WHICH CHURCH COUNCIL ???

And one might as well say, WHICH CHURCH ???

It certainly wasn't the Baptists. (They weren't even around then.)

And just WHAT criteria ?? You say... "criteria" but can you list these specific criteria ??

Thanks,
Rhema

(You really should just say, No you cannot.)

 

[Sue D.]

Rhema. I was sharing what I found when I googled those two terms.

So you're welcome to Google them yourself.

I have no problem with being Baptist why do You.

No singular church put the Bible together. And, yes, I've already read all of your information. Just don't happen to agree with some of it. And, no, I'm not going expound. And if that makes me of some lesser 'something'' to you. Well , I've done okay for many years without your approval so will continue to do so.

 

[Sue D.]

It was the council of Nicea.

You can Google the rest just like I did.

 

[Garee]

Garee, it is my deepest hope and prayer that one day you might actually make sense.

Rhema

As much sense as 3 Corinthians ? Is not the apocrypha called the secret books?

 

[Rhema]

Rhema. I was sharing what I found when I googled those two terms.

So you're welcome to Google them yourself.

And you can go Google and Wikipedia the Pastoral Epistles and the origin of the book of Revelation, and then deal with what you "find" contradicting what you "believe".

I have no problem with being Baptist why do You.

Well first, questions are supposed to end with a question mark, so you're making me assume you asked a question.

I have no problem with being Baptist why do You.

And yet you do have a problem with others being Catholic or Pentecostal, or even Presbyterian for that matter.

To be honest, though, the question itself shows an insular bias that is impossible to address.

No singular church put the Bible together.

The facts of history disagree with you, dearie, but why let that matter?

Just don't happen to agree with some of it.

Indeed.... you have your own opinions and have avidly expressed them with no foundation (i.e. fact or reason). Please, trumpet on...

I'd ask "Why don't you agree?" but you have no respect to answer real questions.

And, no, I'm not going expound.

It's because you truly can't... without spilling some of that tea.

Well , I've done okay for many years without your approval so will continue to do so.

It has nothing to do with MY approval. You seem happy to live as a mushroom, and will continue to do so as well, since you think that such is okay with your God.

It was the council of Nicea.

"It" what?

The council where a canon of scripture was established?

(or is more accurate?)

Sue, there is nothing in the articles of canon from the council of Nicaea that establishes a canon of scripture, nor are there articles of canon that establish criteria for the selection of texts to be considered canonical.

I would strongly advise that you get a refund from your Bible College. (And improve your "Google" skills.)

Rhema

 

[Sue D.]

Bye Rhema. You've been an experience.

 

[Rhema]

Bye Rhema. You've been an experience.

Wish I could say the same, but as things go, it's been an experience typical of Baptists.

Godspeed,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Bye Rhema. You've been an experience.

So then, as you once asked me... why are you here? (Since it's obvious that you don't wish to deal with anything of substance that I've posted ??)

 

[Rhema]

There are groups that add "The Pearl of Great Price" to God's Word

Matthew 13:45-46 "The Pearl of Great Price"

I think it's actually in your Bible, Sue ....

Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.​

(Matthew 13:45-46 KJV)​

Rhema

PS: Now don't Baptists have something called "Our Daily Bread"? ... They do here.
So why denigrate the Mormons and the JWs for doing the same thing as Baptists ??
See how you perplex me?

 

[Rhema]

I put quotes around "you white people". Because those were your words.

You have yet to apologize because I NEVER WROTE THOSE WORDS....

(Repent.)

Rhema

 

[Sue D.]

Matthew 13:45-46 "The Pearl of Great Price"

I think it's actually in your Bible, Sue ....

Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.​

(Matthew 13:45-46 KJV)​

Rhema

PS: Now don't Baptists have something called "Our Daily Bread"? ... They do here.
So why denigrate the Mormons and the JWs for doing the same thing as Baptists ??
See how you perplex me?

Yes,. There is that two verse passage. But there is also a book that the Mormon church uses in addition to the KJV. They believe it makes the KJV more "complete".

And there is also A daily devotional booklet called Our Daily Bread. I have one now. There's a devotional passage at the top and an inspirational story and then - for the person who wañts to read the Bible through in a year -- a few chapters starting in Genesis in the morning and a few chapters or sections of a chapter in the new testament in the evening. Some people follow that and some don't.

Churches that go to usually have a bunch of them sitting on a table as à person comes and goes to a church service. They are free for anyone to get a copy of.

And - no a daily devotional booklet is not the same as actual books written as supplimemts to the Bible, with the intension of making God's Word more complete.

Time for me to close out for this evening.

 

[Rhema]

But there is also a book that the Mormon church uses in addition to the KJV.

Well Sue, that's called The Book of Mormon. And no, it's NOT to make the Bible "more complete."

I am familiar with "Pearl of Great Price," but this would be best described (in their own words) as an inspired "revision" more than an addendum.

Ten Little-Known Facts About the Pearl of Great Price‏ | Meridian Magazine

As I have studied and looked through first edition copies of the Pearl of Great Price--and other early editions--I have learned several interesting facts about the origin and history of this small tome of scripture.

latterdaysaintmag.com

Now does this mean we ought to have the Church of England and the Puritans burn their Book of Common Prayer?

Book of Common Prayer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And don't try to tell me that Baptists don't have their own books describing doctrines and covenants.

Baptist Confessions, Covenants, and Catechisms - B&H Academic

From the Library of Baptist Classics series.

www.bhacademic.com

As for the JWs, no, they don't have an "additional" book. Their literature is equivalent to your "devotional".

Why you hold such contempt in your heart for Mormons, JWs, Catholics and even Pentecostals, I'll never understand. But I do know that Baptist churches teach this as something "holy".

It is not.

Rhema

 

[Sue D.]

@Rhema --ive no contempt for any of those groups you mentioned. No grudge against any group. But I Do hold to Bible doctrines / teaching that are Bible based.

What is it that Baptist churches teach as being 'holy'. You listed the various denominations and then made that comment.

And, yes there are lots of Bible study books that a person can get. I've got one on book of Revelation. And one on book of Daniel. The premise that Bible teaches Bible. Studying strictly from Bible. No one makes anyone do that. No one makes anyone read God's Word. It's highly encouraged in the process of spiritual growth.

 

[Rhema]

What is it that Baptist churches teach as being 'holy'. You listed the various denominations and then made that comment.

So then our basic problem is that we speak different dialects of English ???

Contempt.

Contempt for Mormons, JWs, Catholics and even Pentecostals is taught by Baptists as being holy. (At least in my neck of the woods.)

@Rhema --ive no contempt for any of those groups you mentioned.

Glad you think so.

But I Do hold to Bible doctrines / teaching that are Bible based.

Glad you think so.

No one makes anyone read God's Word.

How could they? God's Word isn't written on paper in ink.

Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.​

(2 Corinthians 3:3 KJV)​

Rhema

 

[Sue D.]

@Rhema. The verse you shared. The context is that sometimes the first exposure to God's Word is our life that a person is observing. When a person becomes a born-again person/ believer - the Holy Spirit comes immediately to indwell the person. One of the results will be a compassion for others. And That is after we are to love the Lord your God with all our heart,soul and mind. And then our neighbor as ourselves. We won't be hating
people. That's found in both Matthew 22:37-40 and Mark 12: 29-33 especially vs 30-31.

We have God's Word on paper to read and for the believer , the Holy Spirit also works in our heart. People notice something different within us - something good / positive and they'll be wondering about what they observe and sometimes will want that themselves. It will a warmth of eyes / heart.

 

[Rhema]

We have God's Word on paper ...

Well you've sure been brainwashed by those Baptist fables...

Rhema

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
(Matthew 23:15 KJV)

 

[Sue D.]

Well you've sure been brainwashed by those Baptist fables...

Rhema

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
(Matthew 23:15 KJV)

Ya know something Rhema. I've had about enough of your comments about me and my Baptist fables

In reality your calling God's Word fables.

Don't know why you have no use for baptists or God's Word.

It's true that you have a great deal of knowledge. But that's not going to get you to heaven.

 

[Rhema]

Ya know something Rhema. I've had about enough of your comments about me and my Baptist fables

And yet you consider the principles of the Mormon FAITH to be fables. And you consider the principles of the JWs' FAITH to be fables, and being Baptist, I'm sure you consider the FAITH of the Catholics to be fables. (Or tell me I'm wrong...) What about the Seventh Day Adventists? The Presbyterians? The Anglicans?

And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.​

(Matthew 11:6 KJV)​

In reality your calling God's Word fables.

And BINGO, right here is the problem. You say "God's Word," when in reality you mean "The Bible." I bet you can't go one month using the actual word "Bible" for when you mean the Bible.

I happen to have more respect for the Bible to use the definitions of "God's Word" that are actually in the Bible.

You, however, seem to be more concerned about your feelings than the facts and reasons I have presented in my explanations.

And you STILL OWE ME AN APOLOGY for lying about what I said.

And you wonder why I have a bad taste in my mouth about Baptists ???

Don't know why you have no use for baptists or God's Word.

I have great faith for what the Bible calls "God's Word" (both of them, RHEMA and LOGOS).

It's true that you have a great deal of knowledge. But that's not going to get you to heaven.

Again with the threats. As a Baptist, Sue, you do not disappoint.

Rhema