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Love Over Law

Have any of you noticed that this thread has fallen into the same groove as always?

It's not an either/or....

Love encompasses all the law and then some.

It's higher than the law, it's asks more than the law, it costs more.

Diamond,
Maybe we need to clarify who's love is it?
Where does it come from? ourselves or the Spirit of God within us.

The answer is obvious, we cannot manufacture Love by ourselves.
The Divine Love that makes us possible to keep the commandments comes only from our becoming (it's a process) like Christ, which is the result of growing in the Spirit.
 
Diamond,
Maybe we need to clarify who's love is it?
Where does it come from? ourselves or the Spirit of God within us.

The answer is obvious, we cannot manufacture Love by ourselves.
The Divine Love that makes us possible to keep the commandments comes only from our becoming (it's a process) like Christ, which is the result of growing in the Spirit.


The fact that, as fallen man, we cannot produce anything good, any love at all without God, is the reason we don't have to clarify whose love it is.

God is love.

As you said, the answer was obvious.
 
The fact that, as fallen man, we cannot produce anything good, any love at all without God, is the reason we don't have to clarify whose love it is.

God is love.

As you said, the answer was obvious.

You would be surprised how many Christians does not realize this fact beyond the superficiality of paying a lip service.
 
, you cannot steal from someone and love them at that point, you cannot lie to them and love them at the same time.



Why not?

If the definition of love is caring about someone else more than you care about yourself, - then if you keep doing things that hurt that person, you don't really love them (as you love your self) Matt 19:19; Matt 22:39; Mark 12:31; Luke 10:27; Rom 13:9; James 2:8, etc..

Now we do hurt those we love on occasion. We are human. But the more mature we become, the less we do this. When we are still selfish enough to want everything to be about (me, me me...) then we still have some growing to do.
 
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Dutch, here's a question for you: What would be the best way to evangelize and spread God's word - by telling lost souls that Jesus died for their sins, loves them, and can save them from death. Or that God hates sinners, and if you don't repent now, you can await a fiery indignation etc. ?

The intended answer is God's love.
However there are many who come to Christ because of the fear of fire and brimstone. I think God gladly takes those also. I think there is a balance that happens over a period of time.
Those who believe God is only love often realize he also wants us to be sanctified and live a life of Holiness.
Those who believe God is wrath and fear him begin to realize that he loves them and there is grace for mistakes.
 
, you cannot steal from someone and love them at that point, you cannot lie to them and love them at the same time.



Why not?

B-A-C gave you an excellent answer but i want to give you one also just to agree with and back up his point.

At the point you decide and choose to tell that lie, at that very point, who are you choosing to serve?

We may have words of love and feelings of love towards them but our actions do not back up our words and feelings.....faith without works is dead... so at that point, the fruit of our words and feelings is nada, zero, big fat nothing because at that very point, when we decide to lie, we are choosing to please ourselves, choosing to be selfish. The fleshly fruit of serving self is sin.

When we choose to lie, tell an untruth, deceive either ourselves, someone else or both, we are putting ourselves in place of The Creator Almighty God. There is only one Creator, The Most High and Holy God. When we lie, we decide to create in opposition to God, we create a false self, a false image of us, a false story and it is empty because it is untrue. That is how serious lying is. Every lie we tell or deception we make, we forget it after a while but it is out there living somewhere as a falsity. We created it and not someone else believes it as truth, so now it takes on life in and of itself. The repercussions of which are enormous depending on how many times that lie we told gets repeated and to whom.

Are you seeing how serious one small lie is?

How offensive it is to God?

How dangerous it is and how much it damages the person that we tell it to?

We involve them in our sin and cause them to collude unbeknown to them.

When we repent, we should go back and undo as many lies as we can think of that we've told.

A kingdom cannot be divided against itself. Either we serve God (love) or we serve ourselves, where the enemy can get a foothold. In that moment, we can't do both.

Which is why all you need to do is love a person and you'll be keeping all the commandments by default.
 
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