Sorry, what I was supposed to mean is 'Catholics are wrong, protestants are right'. Usually I read through my notes before posting but saw it as I came from the hospital.
No, not upset at all. Ive had people tell me that because I think I want to learn Catholic teaching I will go to hell. That and be disowned by half my family. I am used to it and just ask that if we was to discuss then to avoid certain terms that make the conversation argumentative.
You are correct, their are some doctrines that are NOT within scripture when it comes to the Catholic Church. They are present for a reason, either to support the scripture or for specific reasons.
Though their are a few that was implemented poorly. You should be aware though that many Catholics have the core belief may not believe in certain.... let say modern doctrines that have appeared and some did end up leaving the Catholic church due to said doctrine. Holy Mary for example would be an example.
I enjoy discussing about all of these concepts, I like to know of others before I finally make my end decision in going to be RCC as I have already been confirmed in Anglican.
You are correct, it would take a while to chat with every denomination. It is not hard though , to research yourself. I was going to respond more, I was already here for one hour but I know I cannot proceed anymore until I am well again. I will quickly mention a few off-hand things I have seen on this thread but I will need to take my leave for a little while.
I probably fall under a Baptist but I don't think group or labels largely relevant. You either follow all of God or not at all.
Our group(s) (non-Catholics) believe/know we are saved by God's Grace; given freely by Him. We are NOT, repeat NOT N O T saved by works, actions, checklists, etc.
Catholics believe in purgatory. No scriptural evidence.
Rosary. No scriptural evidence for, instructions to make, or how to use it.
Church Calisthenics. Stand. Sit. Kneel. Pray. Sit. Kneel. etc. variations. Again, no scriptural evidence.
Repeated "re-enactment" of Mass as if His Death and Resurrection the first and only time wasn't good enough.
Lent?
The idea that another flawed sinner can "forgive sins" when only God can.
Instructions for costly clothing for those priests and expensive, elaborate "churches" and "relics". Again, no instructions. No commandments. Nothing.
Over the years I've yet to meet and have any Catholic explain these with scriptural evidence and from their governing authority and the latest Pope has been cherry picking and "changing" things.
Last I checked no one has the authority to change what God has said.
Question 1: Rosary
Short version:
You are correct, the rosary does not have scriptural evidence. However their are reasons for this traditions and reasons why it is used.
Long version:
I am unsure if you thought that the Rosary was some sort of doctrine or dogma? either way , basically the rosary is a devotional practice and form of prayer within Catholicism, rather than a doctrine. It has however been approved and encouraged by the Catholic Church as a means of deepening one's prayer life and spiritual connection with God. The rosary is considered a personal and communal practice, not a doctrine that dictates specific beliefs or theological concepts.Thus it is a tool to help one with prayer and connecting with God, taking that time to pray, mediated and worship God. It is NOT a item to automatically dial into the lord and so on.
I have heard from other Christians that they believe repetitive prayers are sinful.They would state that simply mechanically repeating words without true intention or understanding can diminish the effectiveness of prayer. The rosary would not be the case. For each person who prays it, it is their responsibility to use it correctly, their are daily mystery to follow but it is not set in stone. I studied it a long time ago. Most Christians will devote a bead for someone they wish to pray for, so they pray on a day to day basis.
The origins of the rosary:
The Rosary was given to Saint Dominic by the Virgin Mary herself in the early 13th century. According to the tradition, the Virgin Mary appeared to Saint Dominic, a Spanish priest, and instructed him to promote the devotion of the Rosary as a powerful tool against heresy and to bring about spiritual renewal.
Over time, various forms and additions were made to the Rosary, including the development of the different sets of mysteries. The Rosary received official recognition and support from the RCC in the 15th century, particularly through the efforts of Pope Pius V and the Council of Trent.
Their is so much more to the story and information, I do not do it just as I know many denominations do not believe in apparitions. I had many resources when I read and thought where useful when I studied the rosary before beginning to use them when I prayed. I have forgotten most origins and just remember One book which I will place below.
-The Secret of the Rosary by St. Louis de Montfort : Overall provides information on the Rosary's purpose, history, and power. It provides insights into the spiritual significance of the devotion.
Question 2: Stand, kneel, pray
Short version:
Well I would assume any church would stand when they sing hymns. I used to when I was in anglican. We do the same, except when humility is concerned and being humbled, hence the kneeling.
Long Version:
Standing: Catholics stand during specific parts of the Mass, such as the Gospel reading, the Creed, and the final blessing. Standing signifies attentiveness, respect, and readiness to actively participate in the worship. It represents the faithful standing before God, engaging with the Word and responding to His presence.
Nehemiah 8:5
5 Then Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people—for he was standing above them. As soon as he opened it, all the people rose to their feet.
Psalm 134:2
Lift up your hands toward[a] the sanctuary
and bless the Lord.
Kneeling: Kneeling is a sign of reverence, humility, and submission before God. RCCs kneel during moments of intense worship, including the consecration when the bread and wine become the Body and Blood of Christ. It reflects an acknowledgment of Christ's presence and our dependence on Him.
Philippians 2:10:
so that at the name of Jesus
every knee should bend
of those in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Ephesians 3:14
14 Prayer for a Deeper Faith. This is the reason why I kneel in prayer before the Father,
Seen as the Mass is considered the most important act of worship in the CC, where Catholics believe they encounter the presence of Christ. The physical postures of standing and kneeling reflect the sacredness of the moment and the reverence due to an encounter with God. Maybe this is what other denominations that are different between Catholics and themselves, because they do not believe the Blood is Jesus and the Body is Jesus. Even though On the last supper that is what Jesus himself stated:
Matthew 26:26-28
26 The Last Supper.[a] While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after he had pronounced the blessing, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take this and eat; this is my body.” 27 Then he took a cup, and after offering thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from this, all of you. 28 For this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.
Mark 14:22-24
The Last Supper.[a] While they were eating he took bread, and after he had pronounced the blessing, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “Take it; this is my body.” 23 Then he took a cup, and after offering thanks he gave it to them. After they all drank from it, 24 he said to them, “This is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many.
Luke 22:19-20
19 Jesus Gives His Body and His Blood.[a] Then he took bread, and after giving thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which will be given for you. Do this in memory of me.” 20 And he did the same with the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which will be poured out for you.
These passages refer to Jesus instituting the Eucharist, instructing his disciples are to partake of bread and wine, which he declared to be his body and blood. These verses form the basis for the Catholic belief in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, where the bread and wine are believed to be transformed into the body and blood of Christ during the Mass.Just kneeling down really does not seem good enough when you put it into perspective, though people who are unable to kneel tend to bend down a little. More like bowing their heads down. I would take Jesus's words seriously.
Question 3:
Is it really so wrong for those who wish to worship the lord and thank him for saving them often? If so when I am well I will look into this for you. Its apart of the Catholic Calendar and traditions. It is rather easy to look into why this is done.
Question 4:
I am assuming you mean the confessional: When a person goes into a 'box', confesses their sins and they magically become sin free by another human that maybe as sinful.
This is known as the sacrament of confession in the Catholic Church. When you go to confession, you are indeed speaking to a priest, who serves as a minister of the sacrament. The priest is there to listen to your sins, offer guidance, and provide absolution (the forgiveness of sins) on behalf of God. It involves both confessing your sins to the priest and expressing contrition or genuine sorrow for those sins. Through the priest, you are confessing your sins to God, seeking forgiveness, and receiving spiritual counsel for repentance. If the priest suspects insincerity or believes that the person confessing is not genuinely repentant, they may withhold absolution. The priest has the responsibility to discern the sincerity of the penitent, ensuring that confession is approached sincerely and with a true desire for repentance.
Now for your actual question:
Priests are understood to act in persona Christi, meaning "in the person of Christ." When a priest administers the sacraments, including confession, they are seen as representing Christ and His authority to forgive sins. The power to offer absolution is not dependent on the personal perfection or flawless nature of the priest but is believed to be a gift given to them through their ordination. While priests are flawed and sinners, like all humans, the Church believes that they have been called and ordained by God to serve as mediators between God and the faithful in the sacraments. The authority to forgive sins is seen as part of their role as spiritual shepherds.
Basically confession is seen as a sacred encounter between the penitent, the priest, and God. The priest does not forgive sins in his own name but rather acts as an instrument through which God offers forgiveness and reconciliation to the penitent.
I hope this answers your questions, almost forgot scripture!
James 5:16
Confession and Intercession. Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.
John 20:21-23
21 “Peace be with you,” Jesus said to them again.
“As the Father has sent me,
so I send you.”
22 After saying this, he breathed on them and said,
“Receive the Holy Spirit.
23
If you forgive anyone’s sins,
they are forgiven.
If you retain anyone’s sins,
they are retained.”
Question 5:
Costly clothing, this is all within the Catholic Bible, I am sure theirs more:
Exodus 28:1-5 (Clothes)
The Priestly Vestments. 1 “Have Aaron, your brother, and his sons approach you. Take them from among the children of Israel to be your priests: Aaron and Nadab, Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar, his sons. 2 You shall make sacred vestments for Aaron, your brother, for glory and beauty. 3 Speak to all the most expert artisans, those to whom I have given a spirit of wisdom, and they shall prepare vestments for Aaron, for his consecration, so that he might exercise his priesthood in my honor.
4 “These are the vestments that they shall make: the breastplate and the ephod,[a] a robe, a checkered colored coat, a turban, and a sash. They will make sacred vestments for Aaron your brother and for his sons so that they may exercise their priesthood in my honor. 5 They must use gold, blue, purple, and scarlet cloth and linen.
Acts 19:11-12 ( Healing/ Relics)
11 New Encounter of the Church with Magic.[a] So extraordinary were the wonders God worked through Paul 12 that when handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were brought to the sick, they were cured of their diseases and the evil spirits came out of them.
If I have not answered something let me know, I will be unlikely to respond swiftly. But I will when I can.
I will lastly leave you with this:
Matthew 16:19
19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”[a]
And then Peter become Christ’s representative on earth, our doorkeeper.
Have a good evening,
Winter
Note: I will edit this in future to make is more seamless and read through and with italics/bold.